1965 UFO [CASE] Interview with Maurice on the Valensole case.
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00:00Hello Mr. Maurice Chassepoule.
00:27Hello.
00:28I am very happy to meet you to talk about this meeting of the third type of Maurice Mass.
00:36Exactly.
00:37In Valençolles.
00:38In Valençolles.
00:39In addition, in the field where this meeting of the third type took place.
00:42It is not in the Romain territory, this one.
00:44That's it.
00:45But it was in a field in Laval.
00:46It is in the vicinity ...
00:47In the neighborhood, in the neighborhood.
00:49We call the neighborhood L'Olivole.
00:51Okay.
00:52That's the name of the neighborhood.
00:53So what happened exactly in July 1965?
00:58This is Vincent.
00:591st July.
01:001st July.
01:011st July 1965, six o'clock in the morning.
01:04Maurice Mass, farmer, comes to his field.
01:10To work.
01:11To work.
01:12And in his field, now it does not exist anymore, but there was what is called a clapier.
01:18A clapier, these are the stones of the plateau that, by working, the fields come out.
01:25When the farmers take them, to put them on top of each other, it becomes what is called a clapier.
01:30At six o'clock in the morning, he arrives, he prepares, and then he lights a cigarette, or I do not know, and he goes behind the clapier.
01:38And when he comes back to his field, oh, what a surprise!
01:43What does he see?
01:44What does he see?
01:45He says, but a horse, not a horse, you can understand.
01:48A dolphin.
01:49A dolphin.
01:50A dolphin.
01:51But what does he do in my field?
01:53I ask him, but it's not a dolphin.
01:56It must be a helicopter.
01:58So a helicopter, I did not understand anything, it did not make any noise, I know a helicopter, I know what it looks like, but what is it?
02:07And then all of a sudden he realizes that in front of this unidentified flying object, there are two little men.
02:14So one was leaning on his lapel, like that, and the other was standing.
02:20And he approaches.
02:22And when he approached, one of those who were leaning came out of his pocket, a small pipe, and hit him.
02:34And suddenly he was paralyzed.
02:36Completely paralyzed, he could no longer move forward or backward, but he heard everything, he saw everything.
02:41He was paralyzed.
02:44So as soon as these people saw him, so what did they do?
02:50So they got up, they got on their bikes, they opened the window, and the flying saucer went towards me.
02:58So it was a flying saucer.
03:00A flying saucer.
03:02It was an unidentified flying object, which can be called a flying saucer.
03:08So yes, you think well that he was ...
03:11You know, it happens to you tomorrow, it happens to me, the breath I miss him too.
03:16But what happens to me, I dreamed, it's not possible.
03:20So when he comes back to him, he says to himself, but what happened to me?
03:25I dreamed, I just saw, and yet I saw well.
03:29So he goes home, he talks to his daughter.
03:32And his daughter says, Marie-Claude, what happened to you, come see me.
03:37So what you had to see is that there, it's as if you were there,
03:42and on this, almost half of the tank, everything was burned.
03:48As if there was an exceptional pressure,
03:55something very hard that had hammered the ground,
04:00with in the middle a central foot of 40 cm and 6 feet around.
04:06Something very heavy.
04:09Very heavy.
04:10Several tons.
04:11With a power that was unimaginable.
04:15When all this disappeared, he called his daughter,
04:22I said, but dad, what happened?
04:24She said, I don't know.
04:26So the next day, he's going to see a friend,
04:28who had a father in Plain-Sol, called André Boisson,
04:30Tédé Boisson, we called him Tédé.
04:32He says, yesterday it happened to me, it's hard to bear.
04:37He says, I can't take it anymore.
04:40But it must be said, it is true that he spoke first to his daughter.
04:43To his daughter, but not to his wife, not to Jeannette.
04:45He spoke to his daughter.
04:47And the next day, he spoke to Tédé.
04:49Tédé said to him, we have to go to the Gendarmerie.
04:52And when they went to the Gendarmerie,
04:54it was mediatized worldwide.
04:59When I say worldwide,
05:01journalists from all over the world arrived,
05:04came and explained to us.
05:07So somewhere, at the beginning, he was cooperative.
05:12He said, this is what happened.
05:15But it was so, every day, every day, every day.
05:18And he also told us that in the end,
05:20he said to himself, well, now I've said it,
05:22there are enough.
05:24I don't want to talk about it anymore.
05:26And despite everything, he insisted.
05:28He said, I said what I had to say,
05:31I won't talk about it anymore.
05:32So you still have to know,
05:33that when this happened,
05:35they took him to Digne.
05:37The Gendarmes took him to Digne,
05:38to tell them, well, tell us what happened.
05:40And almost, they seemed to say,
05:42but wait, it's a hoax.
05:44You did that to advertise.
05:47But he said, how do you want me to do that to a dog,
05:50all alone?
05:51So, it's impossible.
05:53So he was taken to the Gendarmerie
05:55until three, four in the morning.
05:57So he still said,
05:59in the reports of the Gendarmerie,
06:02he said, but these people you see,
06:04how were they?
06:06Well, he said, they're no bigger than
06:0811-year-old kids.
06:10That is to say, about 1.20 meters.
06:121.20 meters.
06:14No more.
06:15Well, big heads too.
06:17In Valençal, you know the etymology.
06:19Well, not the etymology,
06:20but when we talk about Valençal,
06:21we say big heads.
06:22One day, I'll tell you the story of the big heads.
06:24They already had big heads.
06:26And what he said,
06:27which for me is very strong,
06:29he said, when they looked at me,
06:31in their eyes,
06:33I saw goodness.
06:34And not aggressiveness.
06:36And not people who come to us
06:38to say, here, goodness.
06:40It's good to hear that.
06:43And that's what he said.
06:45Be a peasant, a farmer.
06:47That, a politician will tell you.
06:50But a farmer, for him to say,
06:52that's what he really feels.
06:54By the way, speaking of politics,
06:56I specify that you are a regional advisor.
06:58No.
06:59General.
07:00General.
07:01Excuse me.
07:02General.
07:03General.
07:04General.
07:05So, that's what he said,
07:06that's what he felt.
07:08And what you still need to know
07:10is that when
07:12he had all this story,
07:16usually he slept 5-6 hours a night,
07:18like many.
07:19But there,
07:20he slept whole hours.
07:22His wife was forced every morning
07:24to tell him, Maurice, get up.
07:26For what reason?
07:27He slept as much.
07:28And the second thing,
07:29which is still intriguing,
07:30and very intriguing,
07:31is that the watches
07:33no longer worked on him.
07:35The magnetism
07:37no longer worked.
07:38For years,
07:39he could not put a watch
07:41because it was as if he had it.
07:43So that,
07:44sleep, watches.
07:45And he was so bothered
07:47by the journalists
07:49who came from all over the world.
07:50Let's not forget that China,
07:52Russia,
07:53America,
07:54all came.
07:55All.
07:56I mean, the whole world came.
07:57By the way, now again,
07:58you see that today,
07:59since 1965,
08:01it's been a while.
08:03It's a very well-known story.
08:05Which intrigues.
08:07Which intrigues.
08:08Because to this day,
08:09the scientists have not yet been able to say,
08:11that's it, that's it.
08:12Because we said at the time,
08:13it's at least in the Cold War
08:15between the Americans and the Russians.
08:17We said, but yes,
08:18but these are experiences.
08:19Either the Americans have put
08:21an engine,
08:22or the Russians.
08:23Well, today,
08:24scientists tell us,
08:25we do not know.
08:26We can not explain.
08:27That's why this story
08:29continues to intrigue
08:31many people.
08:32And you see that you are there,
08:34me since,
08:35and I am still
08:37the legator,
08:38the testamentary,
08:39of Maurice Mas,
08:40who told me,
08:41when I will no longer be there,
08:42you have the right to talk about it,
08:44I give you the right to talk about it,
08:46and that's why I do it with a lot of pleasure,
08:48because I feel bad.
08:49And the family too.
08:51So that's what happened.
08:53And I still want to make you a confession.
08:55It's that his wife,
08:56who is still alive,
08:57her name is Jeanette,
08:59told me,
09:00Maurice,
09:01if he had accepted
09:02the money
09:03that the Russians gave him,
09:04the Americans,
09:05to tell him,
09:06come and talk about it,
09:08my grandchildren would not have needed to work.
09:11So imagine the astronomical
09:13that the whole world offered him,
09:16while he said no,
09:17no and no.
09:18Leave me alone.
09:19He could have been very rich,
09:21but he refused.
09:22We told Jean-Denis Maurice,
09:24we told him,
09:25but you do that
09:26to advertise,
09:27but it's absolutely wrong.
09:29It's absolutely wrong.
09:30He saw,
09:31he talked about what he said,
09:33he showed what he said,
09:34but that's all.
09:35After,
09:36the rest,
09:37he continued his life as a farmer,
09:39he continued to lead his life as a farmer,
09:42without wanting to have any return,
09:44no return on that.
09:46And that,
09:47I think it's wonderful.
09:48It's exceptional.
09:49It's clear.
09:50That's it.
09:51So that's why
09:52today,
09:53I speak to you
09:54with so much passion,
09:55because first of all,
09:56I believe in it.
09:57And besides,
09:58a little emotion even.
09:59And a little emotion,
10:00it's true.
10:01Because,
10:02I knew him well,
10:03Maurice Manson.
10:04He was a friend to you.
10:05We were not of the same age,
10:06but he was still a friend.
10:08He was a neighbor.
10:09I knew him forever.
10:11I knew him until the end of his stay.
10:14He was a serious farmer.
10:16And you told me earlier
10:18that it was his own mother
10:19who gave birth to you.
10:20That's it.
10:21Because at the time,
10:22we were in the house.
10:23And since I was born in the house,
10:2450 meters from his house,
10:26it was his mother who gave birth to me.
10:28In addition.
10:29So necessarily,
10:30There are links that are created.
10:32So I say that Maurice Manson was right,
10:34but that contrary to what we thought,
10:36he never exploited that.
10:38He never wanted it.
10:40And in the end,
10:41he said,
10:42I've had enough,
10:43don't talk to me anymore.
10:44And I'm still going to tell you
10:45one last scoop.
10:46It's that a year later,
10:48this story,
10:50he saw them again.
10:52Ah yes.
10:53Yes, yes, yes, yes.
10:54He saw them again.
10:55He said to his wife,
10:56returning in the morning,
10:57still the same, pale.
10:58What's wrong with you, Maurice?
10:59Well, nothing.
11:00Here you are.
11:01You have something.
11:02You are pale.
11:03What's wrong with you?
11:04Well, he said to her,
11:05listen,
11:06I'm going to tell you again,
11:07but don't talk to me.
11:08Now I can talk to you.
11:09It's less known, by the way.
11:10But he never wanted to.
11:11Otherwise, he said,
11:12we'll start again.
11:13And in a year,
11:14in six months,
11:15I saw them again.
11:16I saw them again.
11:17Not in the same place,
11:18in the valley,
11:19in the Secret Rouge,
11:20above him.
11:21And he said to her,
11:22I would have liked you to be there,
11:23so much,
11:24it was beautiful.
11:25So much,
11:26it was beautiful.
11:27And then he said to her,
11:28especially,
11:29I would have liked you to be there,
11:30so much,
11:31it was beautiful.
11:32And then he said,
11:33especially,
11:34don't talk to me anymore.
11:35Don't say tomorrow,
11:36my husband saw this or that,
11:37it's over.
11:38So,
11:39that's a little bit
11:40this emotion
11:41that I feel.
11:42Today,
11:43I don't know,
11:44it's really not the place.
11:45It can be fifty meters,
11:46three hundred meters,
11:47because we never saw
11:48anything like that.
11:49Yes,
11:50that is to say
11:51that we don't know exactly,
11:52a hundred meters away,
11:53where exactly
11:54it is.
11:55I'll tell you why.
11:56Because he didn't want to.
11:57I'm the mayor,
11:58I'm the tourism officer.
11:59But then,
12:00for his second experience,
12:01second observation,
12:02how did you know that?
12:03His wife told me.
12:04Ah,
12:05it's his wife who told you.
12:06Of course,
12:07because I have relations
12:08with Jeannette.
12:09Jeannette,
12:10Madame Parle.
12:11And she was the one
12:12who told me one day,
12:13this is what Maurice told me.
12:14And another scoop,
12:15and then we'll stop there.
12:16A year before I died,
12:17we were having an aperitif together,
12:18because you know that
12:19in the afternoon,
12:20you don't want to
12:21say anything.
12:22And Maurice was like me.
12:23And he told me,
12:24here,
12:25I'll tell you something.
12:26Before I died,
12:27there was a little
12:29He told me,
12:30I'll tell everything
12:31to my little son.
12:32One day,
12:33I'll tell everything.
12:34So he has two little sons.
12:35Which of the two?
12:36He died a year later.
12:37I saw his wife
12:38who told me,
12:39my faith,
12:40he never told me anything.
12:41I saw the mother
12:42of the kids
12:43who told me,
12:44I don't know.
12:45I saw the two boys
12:46who told me no.
12:47So,
12:48didn't he have time
12:49to talk to them?
12:50Did he tell them,
12:51did he tell him above all,
12:52I don't know.
12:53I don't know.
12:54I don't know.
12:55I don't know.
12:56I don't know.
12:57He told me above all,
12:58don't say anything.
12:59Wait.
13:00So,
13:01another mystery.
13:02And that's not,
13:03he told me.
13:04He told me,
13:05I'll tell everything.
13:06He didn't say,
13:07I'll tell the truth,
13:08which is quite different.
13:09He said,
13:10I'll tell everything.
13:11Unfortunately,
13:12did he say,
13:13did the little son
13:14know that he told him,
13:15don't talk about it.
13:16Don't say anything.
13:17Wait.
13:18Wait.
13:19I don't know.
13:20Or maybe he didn't have time
13:21to tell me.
13:22So,
13:23this is a disturbing story
13:24because now,
13:25since 1975,
13:26non-stop,
13:27there are people
13:28who come to ask us,
13:29can we see,
13:30can you explain to us,
13:31what do you think?
13:32Scientists don't like that.
13:33But they say,
13:34well,
13:35you can't explain it.
13:36And according to you,
13:37even those who don't believe it
13:38are troubled.
13:39Because at the moment,
13:40they say,
13:41we don't believe it,
13:42it's not possible,
13:43but,
13:44but,
13:45it's still disturbing.
13:46It's disturbing.
13:47And according to you,
13:48what was it?
13:49What was it?
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13:54What was it?
13:55What really happened,
13:56according to you?
13:57I believe what he said.
13:58I believe what he said
13:59happened.
14:00Now,
14:01I'm not a scientist,
14:02I don't have,
14:03it's nothing,
14:04but we're not the only ones.
14:05We have the impression,
14:06according to these gentlemen,
14:07that there are planets everywhere
14:08and that there are only us
14:09who are elsewhere,
14:10and that's bad.
14:11And why?
14:12Who proves it to you?
14:13Who says
14:14that there is not elsewhere
14:15a life and people
14:16who are superior to us?
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