Ayer, Susana Giménez llegó puntualmente a la Casa de Gobierno para una entrevista con el presidente, programada para las 16 horas. La reunión se llevó a cabo en el histórico Salón Blanco, un espacio emblemático. Antes del encuentro, Susana se reunió con Carina Milei y saludó al perro Thor. La entrevista duró más de una hora debido al trabajo de edición y producción posterior.
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00:00We always see less than we expected, because I tell you that yesterday was a day with many restrictions
00:06to be able to walk, move and be a guard in the government house.
00:11As you said, Susana Jiménez arrived very punctual, impeccable, three and a quarter in the afternoon.
00:17It was not a direct way to greet and interview the president.
00:22The interview was scheduled for 4 p.m.
00:25You know that the president has always received the journalists in his office.
00:30But yesterday there was an exception, because a beautiful historical place was also prepared,
00:35which is the white room of the government house,
00:38which you will surely remember because it has a very particular location.
00:45It is really a historical piece and for a long time the national chains were given from there.
00:50In principle, that was the room that was conditioned for the interview,
00:54beyond the fact that there was a tour of the whole house.
00:57And evidently, first there was the meeting with the secretary-general, Carina Milley, with Thor,
01:03that berna owl, which is a very beautiful animal.
01:07Carina, of course, you saw what a pompom is, it is divine.
01:11Yes.
01:12Well, but Carina Milley came ...
01:13Silvina, I want to gossip, tell me everything.
01:15I want to gossip, since we are doing this, we are going to talk about Boludese.
01:19I'll tell you everything.
01:21Everything.
01:22Already prepared, makeup, everything.
01:24Of course.
01:25She is our diva.
01:26With the hair, everything.
01:27She looked quite impeccable.
01:29Her hair was better than in the program.
01:31Well, yes.
01:32I'll tell you.
01:33How many people arrived?
01:35I mean, Susana's team was a lot.
01:38There was Darío.
01:39There was Darío.
01:40There was a lot of structure.
01:42Let's see, guys, this happens.
01:44There was a very important director of Paramount, which is Marcelo Turabelsky.
01:48Obviously, there was also the producer, Lebrino, but then there was the whole technical team.
01:53Darío Turabelsky, who is a high-ranking TV host.
01:55Saba, I also saw him recently.
01:57Yes, we saw him recently.
01:58Exactly.
01:59Well, then, she arrives, she meets with the secretary of presidency.
02:02She greets the dog, which is the tweet that they wanted to show.
02:05Of course.
02:06We are going to show that they are doing this.
02:08At what time does she enter?
02:09At what time does she meet with the president?
02:11Look, a little while before four in the afternoon.
02:14Karina Milley came to an important political meeting with Lulé Menem and Martín Menem,
02:18because remember that on Sunday, on Saturday, Libertad Avanza relaunches the party
02:23and does so at the national level in the El Parque de les Amas.
02:26So she worked politically on this.
02:28And then with the dog, with a pretal, it was Karina Milley.
02:31Well, at what time does she meet with the president?
02:36And how long does the interview last?
02:37Of course, how long does it last?
02:39A little while before four in the afternoon.
02:41The conversation was long.
02:43It was expected to be for an hour.
02:45They tell us that it was something else.
02:47You saw that later there is editing work, production, post-production.
02:51Silvina, sorry.
02:53There is a fact that circulated yesterday that I don't know if it was finally confirmed.
02:57Because Susana was already wearing makeup.
03:00But the president had to be made up.
03:03Was it made up by her personal makeup artist, Lidia Lemoyne, or a TV professional?
03:11The deputy Lidia Lemoyne was at the government house.
03:15You know that Lidia, every time the president has an interview,
03:19she comes with her silver backpack.
03:21And there she has the whole team to be able to ...
03:25I think it's good.
03:27It seems barbaric.
03:29There are many other questions to ask.
03:31Lemoyne does cosplay makeup.
03:33He does fantasy makeup.
03:35The makeup artist is the person who takes care of him, takes good care of him.
03:39We are talking about makeup.
03:43Well, well, well.
03:44You said you take good care of him.
03:46An important fact is that the presidents were always Susana's living room.
03:50And this is the first time that Susana moves.
03:52She leaves the TV studio and goes to the pink house in this case.
03:57I'm interested to know if you have any data.
03:59What did they ask for?
04:00What exclusivity did they have regarding what they ate?
04:02What did they drink?
04:03I understand that the interview was super distanced.
04:06What there was, a fact that I think is very important,
04:09and that has to do with the fact that the production of the program
04:12was looking for clear, very precise images,
04:16without any element that would generate distraction at the time of the shots.
04:20That's why.
04:21In addition, not only because of a security issue,
04:23which is always very marked for a president,
04:26and also when a diva arrives, there are certain restrictions.
04:29As Susana is so big,
04:31well, there are always some restrictions
04:33so that the access is not so simple,
04:36at least when you enter the government house.
04:38What was asked with great precision was this,
04:41that there were no people circulating,
04:43that they did not appear in shots that did not have to appear.
04:45Phones, of course, all that.
04:48Of course, nothing to disturb the sound.
04:50Quite hermetic, they did it.
04:51Because it was nothing more than what they wanted.
04:54The only one who managed to take a picture with Susana was,
04:57well, in addition to the president, obviously, the secretary general,
05:00or someone who was carrying coffee,
05:03he also took pictures with them.
05:06What there was was a request to take great care of the situation.
05:11Strict.
05:12That no leaks were generated.
05:14Notice that everyone, in addition to seeing what was eaten,
05:16what was taken, we are trying to see everything.
05:18Pizza with champagne, I got the data.
05:20I'm interested to know why you didn't eat it.
05:23Silvina, there was a lot of controversy around the balcony exit,
05:27because it was said that they were not going to leave.
05:29What was the end of that?
05:30They were afraid of the mothers.
05:32Well, look, there was a discussion around whether to leave or not.
05:36You know that Plaza de Mayo is the epicenter of the protest in Argentina.
05:39Of course, that's why.
05:40And yesterday at noon we had a mobilization of state bodies.
05:45It was small, it ended early.
05:47Thursday is the traditional day of the Plaza de Mayo mothers' round.
05:51And there is always another group that approaches.
05:54Well, they finally left,
05:55but when they had already finished all the activity that they had to do.
05:59Of course, because they were afraid to cross, to receive any insult.
06:02Because Thursday is a day, as they say, of the Plaza de Mayo mothers.
06:06And it's a day.
06:07Still, there is no chaotic situation so that the president does not leave,
06:11because he always goes out to the balcony.
06:12There is a 50 in favor, a 50 against.
06:14But on the subject of Susana,
06:15I think that someone around her, yesterday in the middle of the number of poverty,
06:20could say, Che, it's not the day to go out to the balcony.
06:23Because the day was agreed.
06:24They took care of Susana.
06:25The day was agreed.
06:26Four in the afternoon.
06:27The photo is taken with the secretary.
06:28She goes out with Karina Milay, with the dog.
06:31So it would seem that the big blow is for Susana
06:35and not for the secretary, the presidency or for Milay in the middle of those numbers.
06:38Yes, what happens is that the people, I say, there is a lot of sensitivity.
06:42The people are very vulnerable.
06:43The people who do not have money and who do not arrive at the end of the month.
06:45The truth is that they care very little if Susana greets on the balcony,
06:48what she says, because she is from another place.
06:50And of course we know that this is television.
06:52But the one who does not arrive at the end of the month, who cannot buy medicine,
06:54who has a lot of impediments.
06:56The truth is that this slips him.
06:57But have you asked Susana that?
06:59I think so, yes, yes.
07:00You can't not have asked me that.
07:03Where did the interview go?
07:05That's the point, right?
07:07That's the question we all ask ourselves,
07:09which has to do with the content of the questions.
07:12And that's why there is the expectation.
07:14I want to tell you that when the president looks out on the balcony,
07:17there was a brutal security operation.
07:19Because on Hipólito Yrigoyen Street,
07:21there was a water tanker,
07:23police vans,
07:25and also,
07:27on the perimeter of what would be the street of Valcarce de la Rosada,
07:31a federal police guard.
07:33But in what is the patio of Las Lajas,
07:35there were also security officers.
07:37And I want to tell you this,
07:39an anti-drone system
07:41that has an incredible ability to block signals.
07:46Well, the special glasses that are made to support tracking.
07:51And a special weapon that has to do with the possibility
07:54that if necessary,
07:56a drone has to be lowered.
07:58So pay attention to that.
08:00There are many, right?
08:02The cronists who covered yesterday,
08:04I spoke with several of them who were there,
08:06permanently in the afternoon,
08:07and they said they were behind a fence,
08:09that this is the first time this has happened.
08:11I am interested that we share a video
08:13and ask Susana to talk about poverty.
08:15Let's see.
08:17My wishes are for Argentina,
08:19they are not for me.
08:21They are for Argentina.
08:23Please, let everything be fixed at once.
08:25Let them stop talking about poverty.
08:27If there is a lot of poverty,
08:29let people go to the countryside.
08:31We have always been the farmer of the world.
08:33And well,
08:35I don't know,
08:37we have to teach people,
08:39for example, people from the north,
08:41to have chickens in the henhouse.
08:43I don't know, things like that.
08:45Really, I'm telling you.
08:47Well, let's remember that this is an archive.
08:49This is old.
08:51An archive of Susana,
08:53but she was talking about the poverty involved.
08:55She has her thought very formed.
08:57Our economist at home,
08:59our friend Lernan.
09:01Hi Lernan, can you hear me?
09:03How are you? How are you, Pamé?
09:05I'll leave the question for you
09:07when you can answer it.
09:09The question is,
09:11at what point did Susana ask
09:13to stop talking about poverty
09:15and let things go well?
09:17At some point we will see
09:19that things go well.
09:21Don't answer me now.
09:23And yes, let's go for the side of
09:25what does 52.9% of poverty mean?
09:27But not in numbers,
09:29but in realities of people's lives.
09:31Yes, let's see,
09:33there are like two great worlds
09:35that I think derive from yesterday's data,
09:37and if you correct me a little bit,
09:39I'll tell you that I'm more concerned
09:41about the level of indigence,
09:43which is frankly very high.
09:45And I'll go back to something
09:47that you said at the beginning
09:49that I think is very important.
09:51When we talk about indigence,
09:53we are not talking about
09:55eating more or less well.
09:57It is a line, I would say,
09:59so as not to starve.
10:01It is a level, frankly, very low.
10:03And here I was telling you
10:05that the postcards are the following.
10:07On the one hand, a good part
10:09of what was historically
10:11the middle class in Argentina,
10:13which today, for example,
10:15cannot pay for electricity.
10:17A matter, let's say,
10:19it is not that it is optional
10:21to pay for electricity
10:23or not to pay for electricity.
10:25You cut it, simple.
10:27And middle-class sectors
10:29that end below the poverty line
10:31we also saw a long time ago
10:33And the other postcard,
10:35for me, I insist,
10:37the most traumatic
10:39is what has to do
10:41with indigence.
10:43In your program,
10:45many times you have spoken
10:47with different references
10:49of diners, for example.
10:51There has been a very significant
10:53increase in people
10:55who have gone to the diners.
10:57Yesterday I received a piece of information
10:59that caught my attention,
11:01which is that they told me
11:03that there had been a record increase
11:05in the application
11:07of iron blisters for pregnant women
11:09for malnourished,
11:11that is, for eating so badly
11:13that they ended up in that situation.
11:15Now Hernán.
11:17Hernán, good morning first of all.
11:19Many times a society
11:21accepts, and we have seen this,
11:23and we are seeing it now.
11:25Well, I let you take me
11:27to a policy to give two, three,
11:29in this case six,
11:31put steps back,
11:33but because I am taking momentum
11:35to then go forward.
11:37The photo we have is the photo
11:39from last semester.
11:41That momentum forward
11:43to project ourselves
11:45from here at the end of the year.
11:47It is, it is not,
11:49people will not have a better time.
11:51Let's say,
11:53these 11 additional points
11:55of poverty that have been added
11:57in these six months.
12:01The 11 points will not be recovered.
12:03You probably have in the second semester
12:05what so far
12:07if we can confirm
12:09is that the scenario is less lean
12:11than that of the first semester.
12:13That is, in general,
12:15what do we look at when we look
12:17at this type of issue?
12:19Well, we look at how the income
12:21of the sectors that are close
12:23to the poverty line moves.
12:25This is a basic indicator
12:27that the inflation wins.
12:29Now, it is also interesting
12:31to look at the rest of the indicators
12:33that are approaching there.
12:35For example, the social plans
12:37that had to solve that issue in part
12:39and in fact they did
12:41because there were 15 points
12:43less poverty.
12:45Well, they are at 50%
12:47of what they were in the previous semester.
12:49What has to do with the minimum wage
12:51that also continues at a very low level,
12:53which did not win either.
12:55What worries me from now on,
12:57probably the indicator of the second semester
12:59is a little better than that of this semester.
13:01The problem that worries me
13:03is that it is consolidated
13:05and that we get used to a poverty
13:07of 50%
13:09and an indigence of 15%.
13:11As if it were a natural part
13:13of the lives of Argentines.
13:15No, but imagine how tired people were,
13:17fed up, that they decide to endure
13:19and why not?
13:21I don't know if they decide to endure,
13:23I think they have to endure.
13:25And I want to ask you,
13:27and I want to add them all,
13:29one thing, let's agree that none of these problems
13:31were born nine months ago.
13:33Some were deepened, yes,
13:35but to get to these galloping numbers
13:37that Argentina has,
13:39it is not that my law made Argentina poor.
13:41No, no one says that.
13:43But can I ask you something?
13:45The economic measures
13:47that were taken in the campaign
13:49were said, the adjustment
13:51will be paid by the caste.
13:53The adjustment, who is paying it?
13:55But to put information and not opinion.
13:57My children.
13:59Well, that's why I think
14:01that is a central axis.
14:03The result of the data that was published yesterday
14:05are the result of the policies
14:07that were applied.
14:09You finally did not pay the caste
14:11and the
14:13motorcycle, let's say,
14:15crossed a good part of society,
14:17especially of lower incomes.
14:19A fact that seems revealing to me.
14:21There I go, Hernan, because I want to open the table
14:23also and take advantage of our guest, Cayetano.
14:25How do you live it?
14:27I mean, in your environment, in your group of friends,
14:29in the talks you have.
14:31Are there still 50 and 50 people
14:33who say, well, it's coming,
14:35it's about to come the investments or not?
14:37But how long ago are we saying it's coming,
14:39when are we going to see it?
14:41We want it to arrive at once, we are fed up.
14:43First, good morning, thank you for the invitation.
14:45In the WhatsApp of my friends,
14:47that's what you asked me,
14:49there is still the discussion.
14:51Those who voted for my law
14:53and still bank it,
14:55hoping that this will be
14:57re-elected, of course.
14:59And there are obviously those
15:01who did not vote for it, who do not bank it,
15:03and who
15:05had anticipated that this was going to happen.
15:07I think it's a bit ...
15:09I think like everyone else,
15:11do you see these numbers?
15:13It doesn't sound to me that this will go down
15:15and then go up.
15:17Can't the miracle happen?
15:19Are we going to live with people's politics,
15:21the people of the street through miracles?
15:23Don't ask.
15:25Let's see, so many flies
15:27can't be wrong.
15:29Yes, they can.
15:31They can, and not only this time
15:33they were wrong.
15:35And one himself has been wrong many times
15:37thinking that there was someone who could get you out.
15:39Yes, we can change some things
15:41so that it changes.
15:43Not having more retirement benefits,
15:45even if it's little money.
15:47You should have gone there, Paulo.
15:49Yes, but why?
15:51Paulo, apply yourself, because you are a person of the heart.
15:53I think that Cristina, that Macri, that Scioli
15:55charge the guide that they charge.
15:57It's a shame that that
15:59land of fire plan that we put on the stamp
16:01we use it. It's a shame that
16:03those of us who have more money and we have some property
16:05we don't pay personal assets.
16:07It's a shame that the guide is taken.
16:09We have to go for other sectors.
16:11It's a shame to be, no, we have an airline
16:13of flag, I don't know what history
16:15and we lose a thousand green sticks every year.
16:17So I think we have to be sincere
16:19stop being emotional
16:21and stop celebrating failure.
16:23Because yesterday, all the
16:25traditional Argentine politicians
16:27Kirchnerists and Macristas
16:29celebrate the failure of another.
16:31No one has their own merit.
16:33We have to be united in this moment.
16:35That president was elected by the people.
16:37But the current president doesn't have his own merit either.
16:39Yesterday he retweeted a super inflammatory message
16:41with an artificial intelligence
16:43all about how the Kirchneristas set fire to Cordoba or whatever.
16:45We have a president who hates the people
16:47he loves to block the opposition as if it were a disease
16:49and apart from that he is totally
16:51indisposed of any kind of property.
16:53There are some merits.
16:55There are some merits because if not
16:57we are discussing our beliefs.
16:59For example,
17:01what lowered the insecurity in the province
17:03of Santa Fe and when you go and talk to
17:05the governor of Santa Fe
17:07Pujaro.
17:09Pujaro tells you that there is an articulation
17:11that didn't exist before between
17:13the national government and the provincial government.
17:15Of course, we don't see it because we live in Buenos Aires.
17:17But crime grows in Buenos Aires.
17:19No, no, no.
17:21The country is everything.
17:23The country is not only Buenos Aires.
17:25I was one of those who didn't care
17:27if there was a cut
17:29because I thought that when there was a cut on July 9th
17:31it was people who were going through it worse than me.
17:33So, if I had to put up with it
17:35I put up with it.
17:37But there were a lot of people who lost their presence.
17:39Of course, who were harmed.
17:41I want to listen to Nati
17:43because she has a lot of face.
17:45Does she make faces?
17:47No, no, no.
17:49Well, I think a little
17:51as Pablo says, I am also very worried
17:53about the situation. The numbers are
17:55strong, but for me
17:57this didn't start nine months ago.
17:59We get emotional today with a lot of questions.
18:01Why do we get emotional?
18:03Don't you get emotional?
18:05Don't you get emotional?
18:07No, not at all.
18:09The retirees never ate.
18:11My parents always had to work
18:13because they couldn't afford it.
18:15There were always poor people.
18:17And it has always been increasing
18:19with the changes of government.
18:21So, I see a lot of times
18:23that now they worry a lot.
18:25Today the numbers are more alarming.
18:27I hear Lecher who says no, no, no.
18:29You have much more data than me,
18:31but I speak in my position as a citizen.
18:33It's quite simple.
18:35But let's see.
18:37Don't even listen to me.
18:39Look for Caputo's tweet from yesterday.
18:41And see if it's always the same.
18:43I quote Caputo.
18:45Show how poverty moves
18:47and see how it increased
18:49with the policies of my law.
18:51That's the problem.
18:53Because the policies hit
18:55on the lives of Argentinians.
18:57If you want to solve
18:59indigence, especially poverty,
19:01it implies some other dimensions.
19:03But indigence, you have to put money down.
19:05There is no other question.
19:07And lowering the price of food.
19:09None of the two things is being done.
19:11Now they are lowering the price of food.
19:13Because of the recession.
19:15It's easy to imagine that it will go down.
19:17Indigent is less than poor.
19:19It's going down a step and depending on someone.
19:21Indigent depends on an NGO,
19:23depends on a church,
19:25depends on someone.
19:27It's out of the circuit.
19:29It's very serious.
19:31And you're right.
19:33If the retiree gets his medicine,
19:35this happens.
19:37You make me indigent.
19:39I want to add it to Silvina.
19:41I want to ask her.
19:43I want to ask Silvina
19:45what opinion she has,
19:47what reading she does,
19:49why she chose Susana.
19:51Clearly, Susana is in favor.
19:53There are many people who want to interview the president.
19:55To get an answer
19:57from a side
19:59more committed to social issues.
20:01This is a TV interview.
20:03Recorded.
20:05Do you want me to beat him up?
20:07No.
20:09Yes, Paulo.
20:11Let him go to places where he can be criticized.
20:13And if he says something
20:15that does not match reality,
20:17refute it with facts.
20:19It's a very striking contrast.
20:21I'm not going to repeat
20:23what we see every day on TV.
20:25And don't watch it.
20:27It's good that someone
20:29interviews the president.
20:31Someone who can make him uncomfortable.
20:33Someone who gives answers
20:35that 52% want to hear.
20:37If you go with the truth,
20:39the president gets up.
20:41It's much more genuine.
20:43You can go with the truth.
20:45Beyond Majul.
20:47Who else could have interviewed
20:49the president?
20:51I interviewed Johnny Viales.
20:53No, no.
20:55Who could interview him
20:57to make him uncomfortable?
20:59Or not to make him uncomfortable,
21:01but to be genuine.
21:03Don't you want to give a note?
21:05When did he write to you
21:07the last time?
21:09He invited me to Olivos.
21:11But I don't go because if I go,
21:13as a journalist,
21:15they will put me on a list
21:17When did he write to you the last time?
21:19And how much did they pay you?
21:21I don't know what I asked him.
21:23Did you ask him about Yuyito?
21:25No, something about the trip.
21:27He answered well.
21:29But at the moment he answers me badly.
21:31Someone who really thinks
21:33and is on the opposite side of him.
21:35I would like, with respect,
21:37but I can give those answers
21:39that many people want to hear.
21:41We respect the dogs, guys.
21:43I don't care about Thor.
21:45We are not even talking
21:47about a personal interview.
21:49I could give a press conference
21:51to the accredited journalists
21:53in Casa Rosada,
21:55like Silvina, for example.
21:57Guys, Silvina is waiting.
21:59I think that,
22:01if you allow me,
22:03what is missing is a press conference.
22:05Beyond the work of the spokesman
22:07Manuel Adorni,
22:09who is always welcome, of course,
22:11there is a lack of a press conference
22:13with the presidents.
22:15There is a tendency, in general,
22:17in political communication,
22:19that leaders, any leader,
22:21speak directly with their electorate,
22:23with the public opinion,
22:25and, as in this case,
22:27they use social networks a lot.
22:29But communication without questions
22:31is not so effective
22:33because it is not representative
22:35of what many people want to know.
22:37Look at what happened.
22:39We already came from an image issue
22:41with the barbecue in which
22:43the deputies who accompanied
22:45the veto to the mobility law
22:47met.
22:49That generated a strong impact
22:51in society.
22:53Let's now go beyond
22:55what Susana represents
22:57in the afternoon of the numbers
22:59of poverty with an interview
23:01with Susana Jiménez.
23:03And we are very close to the government
23:05deciding, most likely,
23:07a new presidential veto
23:09and there will be a big march.
23:11So, why not hold
23:13a press conference
23:15where we can ask about these issues,
23:17the impacts, the why,
23:19in a dialogue that is fruitful
23:21for everyone?
23:23Because I think that is what is missing,
23:25beyond having colleagues
23:27who are very good at doing it,
23:29to be able to have another type of communication,
23:31perhaps in other segments.
23:33What is your opinion
23:35about what could happen,
23:37if it doesn't come out,
23:39it will come out next Sunday.
23:41Because social networks,
23:43as they are very crude,
23:45many times they tell some truths,
23:47of course, in a smaller percentage.
23:49People are very tired,
23:51very tired.
23:53What is your opinion
23:55about what could happen
23:57with this interview?
23:59What we saw just now
24:01while we were talking
24:03with Silvina was that Pampita
24:05was there to show all the coverage,
24:07Christian Mercatante was there,
24:09he spoke with us.
24:11But I want to take advantage of Calle.
24:13Calle, would you like to interview the president?
24:15Yes, of course.
24:17I would have to prepare myself.
24:19But if you ask me so quickly
24:21what I would ask him,
24:23I would start here,
24:25on the subject of poverty,
24:27and it seems to me that the central issue
24:29and the most important thing,
24:31poverty and indigence,
24:33all the coverage of what was yesterday,
24:35no one spoke of anything else
24:37other than this interview
24:39that Susana Jiménez achieved from her house.
24:41Imagine on Monday,
24:43when we already have the interview.
24:45But they will take care of it.
24:47Everyone expects a note
24:49from another point of view,
24:51if not, as I am going to say,
24:53that Maria O'Donnell goes, that Beatriz Arlo goes,
24:55but not Susana.
24:57But guys, it never happened.
24:59We had a president 200 years
25:01and only once with Novareccio,
25:03he never gave a note.
25:05That is also true.
25:07Cristina Kirchner famously
25:09did not give interviews one to one,
25:11but at least she addressed the people,
25:13she spoke one to one with the journalists.
25:15Let's see the coverage of Susana's note.
25:17The door of the Casa Rosada.
25:19There is the Argentine flag.
25:21You see that below there is a smaller one.
25:23That small flag means
25:25that the president is inside.
25:27Susana arrived three and a quarter
25:29At this moment he is doing the interview
25:31to the president of the nation.
25:33This mirror is to detect explosives.
25:35Every car that enters,
25:37a policeman puts it under the car
25:39and checks if there is any suspicious artifact.
25:41Susana's car was also checked.
25:43While we were all waiting
25:45at the garage door,
25:47there was a movement of cars,
25:49of security people.
25:51Apparently now Susana and Milei
25:53are going to come out
25:55to greet the people.
25:57There comes Susana.
25:59She is about to go out to the balcony.
26:01There is movement.
26:03You can see that these people
26:05are the same people
26:07from the production of Telefe
26:09who made the note.
26:11There is Javier Milei.
26:13There is Susana Jiménez.
26:15Greeting Milei,
26:17the people who greet him.
26:19Susana with black glasses, greeting.
26:21To all this,
26:23the people of Telefe recording.
26:25They do not stop recording.
26:27It is seen that this will be part
26:29of the content of the program.
26:31There are people running
26:33to greet Milei and Susana.
26:37There it is.
26:39Susana!
26:41For breakfast!
26:43He greets more Milei than Susana.
26:45There it is.
26:47I'm greeting her.
26:49Let's see if she looks at me.
26:51Susana!
26:59Well, there ended the greeting
27:01of Susana and Milei.
27:03Lili, how was the note?
27:05Did you witness it?
27:07No, we could not even be in the
27:09patio of Las Palmeras.
27:11The access was all closed.
27:13That was because of the production
27:15of them.
27:17Did you have a meeting with the president and Susana?
27:19Nothing, absolutely nothing.
27:21The same thing that you filmed now
27:23is the same thing that we have seen
27:25being in here.
27:27Why were they accredited?
27:29It's a very good question.
27:31We would have to make a difference.
27:33The difference is that I am behind
27:35this fence and you are on the other side.
27:37While Susana is doing
27:39to Milei, the indexes
27:41of the INDEC came out.
27:43What do the indexes say?
27:4517% of Argentines are poor
27:47and 18.1%
27:49are homeless.
27:51That is, 2 out of every 10 Argentines
27:53are homeless.
27:55Let's say I dye you blonde.
27:57Let's say you are Susana Jimenez.
27:59You have Milei in front of you.
28:01Let's say you are Milei.
28:03Ask her a question.
28:05When do we get out?
28:07When are we going to start?
28:09Is the hair yours?
28:11I am Susana Jimenez.
28:13Ask her a question about the hair.
28:15She?
28:17Susana is coming out.
28:19A lot of security.
28:21A Telefe mobile home
28:23is approaching first.
28:25She is covering the backstage.
28:27The daughter of Yudica is there as a producer.
28:29Susana Jimenez came out.
28:31She goes to the car.
28:33They approached the car.
28:35Let's see if she comes to talk
28:37to the press and greets the press.
28:39Come, Susana!
28:41Come!
28:43The police
28:45is blocking us.
28:47The police
28:49is blocking us.
28:51Susana's Mercedes is approaching.
28:53I am going to try to catch her.
28:55She is going to the other side.
28:59She is going to the other side, Susana.
29:03While all the press was waiting
29:05for Susana's exit
29:07in the Mercedes
29:09they made
29:11a distraction.
29:13The police
29:15was making a fence.
29:17Susana turned around
29:19and went out through this gate.
29:21What is so special
29:23about this gate?
29:25The remains of
29:27Diego Armando Maradona
29:29were taken out through this gate
29:31the day he was killed here in Casa Rosada.
29:33The impeccable coverage
29:35of Cristian Mercatante.
29:37I want to thank
29:39Hernan Letcher.
29:41Hernan, the question
29:43at the beginning of the program
29:45has an answer.
29:47When are we going to see
29:49that it works?
29:51When are we going to see it?
29:53Well, you know that
29:55poverty and indigence
29:57are the cross of two questions.
29:59The price of a food basket
30:01in the case of indigence
30:03and the rest of the products
30:05and then the income
30:07of the Argentinians.
30:09So, to see it,
30:11basically,
30:13not only do they have to
30:15lower the prices,
30:17which would help,
30:19but they have to improve
30:21the income in any way.
30:23So, while the income
30:25is not recovered,
30:27we will be in a complicated situation.
30:29But can't it happen
30:31that all these dollars
30:33in the short term
30:35are seen by people?
30:37In their lives?
30:39For my point of view,
30:41again, not necessarily
30:43that there are investments
30:45in mining.
30:47It will be reflected
30:49in the sectors that are today
30:51under the poverty line
30:53can improve their income
30:55in a theoretical way.
30:57Thank you very much, Hernan.