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00:00latest comments calling early voting stupid what's that all about?
00:05Well look the Trump campaign has a love-hate relationship with the concept
00:09of early voting even in person or in mail. 39 states however have have it and
00:16many of them are battleground states so the Trump campaign has settled on a
00:19message in which it says it has to participate in early voting and so they
00:25are encouraging voters to vote early despite suggesting at the same time and
00:30the possibility that fraud could occur without evidence. JD Vance the vice
00:35presidential candidate on the Trump ticket he made this argument in
00:39Charlotte North Carolina earlier this week saying quote I don't love that
00:43election day has become election season but quote we got to play by the rules
00:47there that are set so use it and keep in mind at the same time as continuing to
00:52be critical of early voting the Trump campaign did roll out its own early
00:57voting campaign in June calling it swamp the vote. They rolled that out and Trump
01:04at the time saying quote we will use every appropriate tool to beat the
01:08Democrats. We have to remind our viewers right that the American election is neck and back in the battleground states in particular.
01:13What about Trump's comments about abortion and women at a rally in Pennsylvania he called
01:18himself a protector of women. What did he mean by that? I'm sorry I was speaking
01:24and I didn't hear your question can you repeat it please?
01:28Apologies I was asking you about Trump's comments on abortion where he recently
01:33said that he's a protector of women. Well you know we can't get into the side of
01:41the mind of Donald Trump but he seemed to be buttressing that argument when he
01:48made it with the idea that he would protect women economically that he would
01:53make sure they had the finances they needed to put groceries on their kitchen
01:57tables to pay the bills etc. It was also really the Trump campaign's response to
02:05the criticism that he is not getting as many female votes in the polls up until
02:10election day as he is male votes and he's trying to go after those female
02:15voters and make the argument that they will be economically safer with him
02:20under a President Trump.
02:25All right Jessica do stay with us because we have another story that we'd
02:29like your views on. According to several source-based media reports Donald Trump
02:34will return to Butler Pennsylvania the site of the first assassination attempt.
02:39This could happen as early as next week. A rally is reportedly scheduled for
02:43October 5th and will take place at the Butler farm show fairgrounds. That's
02:47where the gunman Thomas Crooks shot at Trump. A bullet grazing
02:53Trump's here on July the 13th. As you would remember the the setup for the
02:58upcoming event is likely to be similar to the July rally. Trump has
03:03repeatedly said that he'd return to Butler writing on his social media
03:07platform in late July that he was going back to Butler for a quote big and
03:12beautiful rally unquote. Now Voice of America correspondent Jessica Stone
03:17standing by with more. Jessica security will be extremely tight given no one
03:23really wants the repeat of a copycat attempt something that law enforcement
03:27has warned off in the past few months. Yes and of course we have to remember
03:32that there have been not one but two attempts on Trump's life since he began
03:38running for office this time. Secret Service saying that well it will
03:42increase security around the president after that second assassination attempt
03:47attempt in two months. The House of Representatives also unanimously voting
03:52to make security protections equal for candidates as they are to presidents and
03:58so if that gets passed in the Senate we're going to see a sea change in terms
04:02of the level of protection that presidential candidates receive on the
04:06campaign trail. Trump's security visible on Monday when Trump went back to the
04:10battleground state of Pennsylvania the site of that first assassination attempt
04:14he got off the plane and he had many Secret Service agents really close to
04:19him which is something we haven't seen in past appearances they've been a
04:23little bit further back. Meantime we know that 58 year old Ryan Ruth who is
04:28charged with firearms possession in connection with the most recent
04:31assassination attempt on President Trump in Florida on September 15th he
04:37in terms of court filings we got some information that he wrote a letter quote
04:42to the world calling his actions an assassination attempt on Donald Trump
04:46and remember you know President Trump did get bumps in the polls after that
04:51first assassination attempt so going back to Butler is key for the campaign
04:56that sits now to make sure that he can secure those 19 electoral votes in the
05:01state of Pennsylvania which is key to his victory if he gets it in November.
05:09Jessica Stone with Voice of America appreciate your time joining us here on
05:14NDTV this morning. In other news now Russia Iran and China are using
05:19artificial intelligence tools as they increase their effort to sway the
05:24American population ahead of the November election that's according to
05:28intelligence officials in the US as AI advances at a rapid pace so does its
05:33threat on democracy and the elections throughout the US polls in the race
05:38we've seen various incidents of AI use. Vishal Vivek reports.
05:45The scourge of election interference hangs over the upcoming US election US
05:54intelligence officials have said in their latest report that Russia Iran and
05:58China are using artificial intelligence tools in their effort to sway the
06:03American population ahead of the presidential election on November 5. The
06:08report says Russia has generated the most AI content related to the election
06:12and has done so across all four mediums text images audio and video. The AI
06:17operation is consistent with Russia's broader efforts to boost Donald Trump's
06:21candidacy and denigrate Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party including
06:26through conspirational narratives the report added. Intelligence officials said
06:30Russia was behind a viral staged video in which an actress falsely claimed that
06:35Harris had injured her in a hit-and-run car accident. This video went on to
06:39garner millions of views. The report says that clips of Harris's speeches
06:43were also doctored. According to the intelligence report Iran targeted US
06:48voters on polarizing issues such as the Israel-Gaza conflict. Earlier this month
06:53the US Justice Department charged two Russian nationals and seized more than
06:5630 website domains. Involved in what is alleged is a Russian government linked
07:01influence campaign in an attempt to manipulate the 2024 presidential election.
07:06The report is hardly surprising as past intelligent assessments had found that
07:11Moscow tried through influence campaigns to help Trump win in 2016 against
07:16Hillary Clinton and in 2020 against President Joe Biden. With Vishal Vivek
07:22Bureau report for NDTV World.
07:27Let's get you more on that now we're joined by Glenn Kahl he is a national
07:31security and foreign policy expert and former CIA clandestine services officer.
07:36We are also joined by Alexis Emmett he is a cyber threat analyst. Thank you
07:41gentlemen for joining us here this morning. Glenn let me come to you first
07:44there are worries about Iran and China using AI to target the current US
07:48elections but according to intelligence officials Russia is the most prolific of
07:52the lot. How exactly do these Russian backed entities use AI for instance
07:58manipulating Harris's speeches using simple editing tools along with AI. If
08:03you could give us a few more examples like that to really bring home the point
08:06please. Well that's an obvious example and one that will is used a lot but is I
08:16think probably the less insidious and dangerous kind as the example given a
08:22moment ago about the false reports of Kamala Harris being in a hidden involved
08:27in a hit-and-run accident. Those things will continue the more insidious though
08:32is to recreate not recreate to create an almost infinite number of voices that
08:41appear to be legitimate from different walks of life in America say if we're
08:47targeting America. So you might have someone who presents him or herself as
08:55someone coming from the south of the United States or being a black American
08:59or an Indian American or representing gun rights or or gun opponents and just
09:07expressing an opinion that goes into then the social media discourse that
09:12ever so slightly reshapes the debate and the impressions the consciousness of the
09:19people who receive that particular tweet or Facebook posting or the any
09:25sort of kind of social media expression and that then changes what Americans
09:32think about an issue then a candidate then a party and then the election. The
09:39Russians are past masters at not necessarily undermining Kamala Harris
09:45in this current context but in fomenting discord that undermines the Americans
09:50belief in respect for participation in democracy itself and as the society
09:57becomes more in turmoil and the system more doubted all of that renounce to
10:05Russia's benefit. That's the kind of thing that that AI can do hundreds of
10:11thousands millions of times more effectively literally than traditional
10:15intelligence officers who would actually write a message and try to plant it.
10:22Okay. All right, Alexis. Now, if like if I spot a video saying that Kamala Harris
10:29was involved in a hit and run the video that Glenn just mentioned, the first
10:33thing that I would perhaps do is to cross check on a reputed news website.
10:37Aren't users really sophisticated enough to spot the fakes from the lies or are
10:42we giving ourselves way too much credit?
10:47Well, I think it's obviously something that's becoming more important, you know,
10:52with the advent of AI and deepfakes. I think deepfakes are sort of the key. One
10:58of the primary factors in this. Another thing to understand is or something that
11:04can possibly make it easier to detect is understanding the strategies sort of
11:10imposed by, you know, these, these threat actors or nation state backed groups.
11:17It's very important to understand that based on what we've seen, and multiple
11:21intelligence reports that one of the strategies again, augmenting deepfakes is
11:28sort of the automation of this disinformation. And one of the flaws in the
11:34strategy is sort of based around how it is sort of employed. So what that means is,
11:42you know, it's not enough to just have these videos posted. What they're also
11:46employing are, you know, vast, vast amounts of bots or social media bots, that
11:54of course, also have, you know, fake images, fake images, or AI generated
11:59images, but that's sort of a very telling, or a very important factor to
12:06consider. So I think, to answer your question more directly, one of the things
12:11to look out for is these, you know, rather random spurs of activity or seeing
12:18certain trends pick up out of nowhere almost, and sort of verifying or
12:23analyzing whether the similarities in the posts being made, the hashtags being
12:27used, so on and so forth. So again, if you don't see it from any reputable source,
12:32and you're sort of seeing similar sorts of accounts with similar posting styles,
12:37that's a very good indication that, you know, something's not right.
12:45Glenn, just a month ago, OpenAI banned a bunch of chat GPT accounts after they
12:50found that foreign groups were using chat GPT to sow division amongst U.S.
12:55voters. To think that here is a tool made by an American company now being used to
13:00turn Americans against each other, a tool that many of us also use, how is a simple
13:05app like chat GPT used to spread this disinformation and lies?
13:12Well, as in the ways that I touched upon, and I know for a fact, many
13:19ways that I don't know about, because AI is not my personal expertise.
13:26But what you do is, it doesn't matter if the likes of the three of us who are
13:30talking identify something as suspicious and then debunk it.
13:34That's good. That's necessary.
13:36We must do that.
13:37But the simple fact of introducing something that is false or debatable or
13:44different into the debate changes the frame of reference.
13:49And it is, unfortunately, a psychological truth that a lie repeated frequently
13:56comes to be believed.
13:57And even if it is not believed, psychologists have shown us that even if
14:05you know the true answer and you hear a false answer, the way you think is
14:09changed. It's shocking, but that's what happens.
14:14So a chat GPT will, as I say, pretend it will generate millions of different
14:22individuals, fictional individuals who are then posting things on Facebook and
14:27on Twitter and on truth social and on LinkedIn and so on and so forth, which
14:33even in the act of debunking, change the nature of society's perceptions.
14:39And when that is done with the express objective of creating discord, it's much
14:43easier to break things than it is to build them.
14:47Then you have altered society.
14:49Let's take a gross example that we all know about Donald Trump talking about
14:54ingesting bleach as a way to fight the the pandemic, the covid-19 strain.
15:00That's a lunatic thing to say.
15:02But we now have millions of people cheering at rallies in support of this
15:08lunatic idea.
15:10That's what happens millions of times over.
15:14That's all we have time for here this morning.
15:16Thanks very much indeed.
15:18That's Glenn and Alexis joining us on NDTV to talk about the disinformation being
15:23sowed allegedly by Iran, China and of course, Russia.
15:27In other news now, campaign officials are considering a visit by Democratic nominee
15:32Kamala Harris to the U.S.
15:33and Mexico border while she's in Arizona on Friday.
15:37This move aims to help her campaign narrow the gap with Donald Trump's
15:41aims to help her campaign narrow the gap with Donald Trump on immigration, a
15:45central issue in the twenty twenty four election.
15:48Democrats are trying to shift the narrative after years of border crisis and
15:53GOP resistance to bipartisan border measures.
15:57The Harris campaign sees the visit as a chance to address criticisms about her not
16:02going to the border often enough.
16:11The U.S.
16:16vice president and Democratic Party candidate Kamala Harris will be in Arizona on
16:20Friday.
16:28The Harris campaign wants to utilize this opportunity and organize a visit by Harris
16:32to the U.S.-Mexico border, according to a CNN report.
16:36The objective is to close the gap with Republican candidate Donald Trump on the
16:42major election issue on immigration.
16:48The gap in polling remains a concern for some Harris campaign officials, as the
16:52former president holds the lead on the issue.
16:54The Republican Party has been attacking Harris over not visiting the border
16:58enough.
16:59Harris' visit to Arizona comes at a time when border crossings are the lowest
17:09they've been in the last four years, according to reports.
17:14In a speech heavily focused on migration, Trump recently said that he will be the
17:19border president.
17:21When I return to the White House, I will launch a special task force of elite
17:26federal law enforcement and charge them with crushing and eliminating every
17:30foreign gang and organized crime network that is conquering our country.
17:36Meanwhile, the report says that the Harris campaign is looking to use the failed
17:40bipartisan border measure to cast Trump as someone who is not serious about the
17:45border issue.
17:48With Vishal Vivek, Gargi Rawat for NDTV World.
17:57A star-studded celebrity lineup adding to the already dramatic race for the White
18:01House. There's Oprah for Harris.
18:03Can't forget Taylor Swift as well.
18:05Donald Trump has Hulk Hogan and can't forget Elon Musk.
18:08Musk has even become a defender of Trump, most recently suggesting that tech
18:12companies like Microsoft and Google are making disappropriation, large, large
18:18sums of money to the Harris campaign than to Trump.
18:21So how much do these celebrity endorsements really help?
18:25We're joined by Art Estopinan.
18:27He is a political analyst and joins us from Washington, D.C.
18:31on a new study by Harvard University by Ash Center found that celebrities do play
18:35an influential role when it comes to elections.
18:38But as far as directly being influenced by a celebrity endorsement, how much do
18:45these endorsements really, really help?
18:49The reality, Alistair, is that it does not, because people like Taylor Swift
18:55or Oprah are billionaires that do not have the same problems that the average
19:02Americans are going through right now because of high inflation.
19:06Thanks to Kamala Harris and President Biden, people cannot pay the groceries.
19:11The gas is too high.
19:13The prices of rent, of health care insurance, of car insurance, car payment.
19:21Everything is very, very costly and the American people are feeling a lot of pain and
19:26pain that Oprah or Taylor Swift do not have to face every day.
19:29Right. So in my opinion, the seven states that are in play right now, that the polls
19:36are very tight, is the American people don't really don't really pay attention to the
19:42celebrity and those endorsements.
19:45Celebrity endorsements can also be problematic, because let's take a look at Hillary
19:50Clinton in 2016, a huge bunch of celebrity endorsements actually hurt her.
19:55Critics saying that endorsements from Katy Perry or Beyonce may have put some people
19:59off thinking that Clinton was more a candidate for the liberal elite.
20:03Do you agree?
20:06Absolutely. And that's and that's the problem.
20:08That's what we're seeing right now with the Democratic Party.
20:11That all of the all of these political elites, Democratic elites, they're making a lot
20:17of money. They're making money.
20:19If you have money in the stock market, if you have gold, if you have bonds, if you have
20:24crypto monies, then you're doing really well.
20:28But the average American, the silent majority is suffering and the silent majority
20:34rejects all of these billionaire, you know, big shots, big shots, big shots, big shots
20:42whether you're a musician or an actor, an actress from Hollywood saying that they're going
20:46to endorse someone who has absolutely no plans on how to fight inflation.
20:51And that's that's the problem.
20:56Thanks very much, indeed, that was Art Istopanen, he was joining us from Washington, D.C.
21:01Thanks, Art, for your time.
21:02That's it for U.S.
21:03Election Watch. I'm Alistair D'Souza in Washington, D.C.
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