One Nation with Brian Kilmeade 9-21-24 (21th September 2024)
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00:00for Dating Late. Tonight on the show, a big roster of guests, including Pete Hegseth,
00:04breaks down the moments of media that matter most this week. Tristan Harris, AI, to be feared or to
00:10be lauded, and the role it could be playing in this election. Robert Davi, a superstar,
00:15over 150 movies. Should celebrities, should singers be weighing in on this election?
00:20They seem to be. We'll talk to him about his perspective. But first, we begin with the race
00:25to the White House. With only 45 days to go, the polls continue to show both Harris and Trump
00:31neck and neck, not only just in national polls, but crucial and critical battleground states.
00:37But Harris's campaign continues to surprise me with the way they are approaching this election.
00:42Instead of trying to build up their own candidates, talking about her strengths,
00:46talking about her policies, they continue to delegitimize Trump, or try to. Instead of talking
00:52about their candidate, I don't know, fixing the country's economy, fixing a broken border,
00:56which, by the way, they broke. They continue to ridicule the past accomplishments of the
01:01former president and minimize them. And one thing that is almost impossible to challenge,
01:05I thought, is Trump's ability to attract the crowd. Yet mysteriously, the VP, Harris,
01:17spent time at the debate where she could actually laid out policy. She could have told us what she
01:22stood for. She's different than Joe Biden. But instead, she made this calculated,
01:26but I think, bizarre statement. People start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion
01:31and boredom. That statement obviously got under the president's skin and everyone's talking about
01:37it. But I thought I'd want to get some facts. So before catching up with the president on Long
01:41Island, his major rally at Nassau Coliseum, I thought I'd see for myself the size of the crowd,
01:47their passion for the former president, and if they indeed going to leave early, and if they
01:51would indeed be bored. Let's see. That wasn't scripted. That was impromptu. And that's how
01:57they feel. Maybe David Muir of ABC should have fact-checked that one too. No. Mr. President,
02:02we're now in the backstretch under 50 days. Is there a closing plan to close out the
02:08battleground states that's different from the previous 300? Well, there is a plan about closing.
02:13It's called closing the border. And we're going to do that immediately. And we're going to drill,
02:17baby, drill. And we're going to bring down inflation. We're going to bring it. We're
02:20going to cut prices. You have to cut prices, not just bring them to a level. You have to cut prices.
02:25But we're going to end up with the strongest economy anywhere in the world. And we're going
02:28to do it very quickly. We have more liquid gold under our feet than anybody. We're going to use
02:32it. And we're going to pay down debt. We're going to reduce taxes still further. And we're going to
02:37have a country back again. But most importantly, and immediately, we're going to close our border
02:42because we have millions and millions of people pouring in from jails and prisons and mental
02:47institutions and terrorists. And we're not going to stand for it anymore. 18,000 people out there,
02:53about another 18,000 on the outside in Nassau County, Long Island. And you probably made a lot
02:58of them happy by saying, hey, I know I had tax reform. I got rid of the salt. But now you want
03:03to add that. Allow them to take their state and local taxes off their tax return. We're really
03:09looking to do that. And we want to do it for New York. We also want to win New York. We think we
03:13can because of what's happened with the migrant crisis. Everybody's coming into New York. People
03:17that, frankly, that just got out of prisons from the Congo and from the Middle East and from lots
03:22of other places. And the people of New York, look, I left here. This was a great place.
03:28Now it's a place that's overrun by people that shouldn't be in our country, by very dangerous
03:33people, street gangs. You see what's happening in other states. It's not only in New York,
03:37but you look at what's going on with the Venezuelan taking over the real estate in Colorado
03:42with guns like even our military doesn't have guns and rifles. So, no, we got to turn it around.
03:47We're going to turn it around fast. We have to deport all of these criminals that have been
03:51brought in. And we will. The Teamsters union is refusing to endorse either one of the candidates
03:57tonight. Normally, that's a given for the Democratic nominee. The Teamsters union,
04:02for the first time since 1996, just declined to support a Democrat for the White House.
04:08You know, the Democrats have always taken for granted that they're going to get our vote no
04:12matter what. And the Republicans fancy themselves as the working parties, working people's party.
04:18First time since 1988, the Teamsters have not endorsed a Democratic candidate. They didn't
04:22endorse anyone, but they released a poll. The poll shows their membership voted by for votes for
04:28is going to vote for you by about 20 points. Yeah, they're going to be. What does that mean?
04:32We're up to almost 60 percent of the vote. Well, it's a great honor. I the Teamsters have been
04:37with me for a long time. We did a lot of buildings in New York. I did concrete buildings. They were
04:42the truck drivers for the concrete. And I had no problems with the unions ever.
04:46I got along with the unions and I got along with non unions, too. I got along with everybody. I
04:51was very good at building things. And, you know, you go to different parts of the country,
04:55you go down south and you don't have unions. And in New York, you have very strong unions.
05:01But I always got along with them. I got along with the team says, look, this is the first time
05:04in many decades that they haven't endorsed a Democrat. But they went out and they actually
05:08took a poll of the members and I was at 60 percent. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
05:13First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an incorrect statement. She knows that. Number one,
05:17I have nothing to do, as you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do
05:20with Project 2025. And just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan. She copied Biden's plan.
05:28It's like four sentences, like run, spot, run for sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and
05:35lower taxes. She has no policy. Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago
05:41is out the window. She's going to my philosophy now. In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.
05:46Well, there she goes again. It's a lie. I'm not signing a ban. And there's no reason to
05:51sign a ban. Excuse me. I have to respond. Another lie. It's another lie. I have been a leader on IVF
05:58with which is fertilization. Will she allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month,
06:02seventh month? Come on. OK, would you do that? Why don't you ask? Why don't you? That's the
06:08problem. After seeing Kamala Harris vice president for the first time and debating her for the first
06:13time and then seeing some of her follow up interviews, what kind of opponent is she?
06:18Well, I thought that she had a debate which was interesting because she wasn't answering
06:23any questions. And I thought it was a great debate for me. I thought it was one of my best
06:27debates that I've ever had. And some people disagreed, but I felt it was the strongest
06:31debate I ever had. I thought I was treated very unfairly by ABC. They had it was three on one.
06:36But that was OK, too. I thought we did really well. We exposed it. She told a lot of things
06:42that weren't true. And I told things that were true. Like as an example, when I said we have
06:46massive crime, I was interrupted by David Muir saying that crime has actually gone down. Well,
06:52no, the Justice Department. I don't know why they did this, but somebody maybe likes me over there.
06:56They just released, as you saw, numbers saying that crime is up 44 percent and beyond that in
07:01some categories. So I was right. And ABC hasn't apologized yet. No, I thought the debate was
07:07very good. My poll numbers are great. We just had a Rasmussen poll that I'm up six.
07:12And I think we're doing very well. Don't forget, it's a very unfair process. They did a coup of
07:17Biden. The Biden thing was over. We had the debate. It was a good debate. And he was down
07:23either 19 or 21 points, depending on which poll you look. And I figured that was going to be a
07:28win. And they told him that was going to be a winner. We want you out. And they actually did
07:32a coup and they put her in. And I actually believe if when the people find out what she
07:37stands for, all of the things that she stands for, I think that we will do as well or better than we
07:42would have done against Biden. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby
07:47after it's born. Madam Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump.
07:51You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach out to the city manager there. He told us
07:56there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed,
08:00injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community. I've seen people on
08:04television. Let me just say here, this is the people on television say my dog was taken and
08:09used for food. So maybe he said that. And maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.
08:14Mark Penn, a Democratic pollster is calling for an investigation of ABC and the moderators. He
08:19wants the communications poll to see if they were talking to each other because of the fact check
08:24on you and none on them and the questions and topics. Do you join in those questions?
08:29Sure, I do. I think they should be investigated. And, you know, they have to get a license from
08:33the federal government. They they asked me nine or 11 different times about things that I was right
08:40on in virtually every case. I was absolutely right. Like the crime, like Charlottesville,
08:45like a lot of other things. They asked me about things that I was right on and they didn't ask
08:50her anything about things that she was wrong on. And they knew that she bloodbath, as an example,
08:55she knew they all knew that she was wrong on these things. We were talking finances. And so
09:01so what is so sad is that they're allowed to do that. So they interrupted me, but they didn't
09:06interrupt her. And she was the one that was wrong. The Federal Reserve cutting interest rates by a
09:11half a percentage point on Wednesday. The decision means the cost to borrow money for things like
09:16credit cards, car loans and some mortgages will likely drop right now. Fifty percent cut,
09:22point five percent cut, a massive cut of the Fed right before the election is the first one.
09:27It's the biggest one in a long time. Do you think politics plays a role in it or is it because
09:32inflation is tamed? I think it's two things. I think our economy is terrible. So you could make
09:36the case for them or it's politics or maybe it's a combination of both. But the economy is bad.
09:42Inflation is killing people. We're going to get the inflation way down. I'm going to reduce energy
09:47bills for people by 50 percent within the first 12 months. That's the kind of stuff we have. We have
09:52more liquid gold under our feet than any country in the world. Saudi Arabia, Russia.
09:56I'm going to reduce energy costs for people. That means air conditioning, heating, cars,
10:01everything by 50 percent. And we'll do that within 12 months. And I'll be able to do it easily.
10:07I understand. I missed this. I was here. But you did make history today with Bitcoin,
10:11the first cryptocurrency purchase transaction by a president on the Bitcoin protocol.
10:18I don't even get it. Do you understand what you bought hamburgers? Well, I did. I bought a
10:23hamburger with Bitcoin. This was the first purchase ever made, I guess, of a hamburger
10:27or something. And now, look, I'm a believer in staying at the top. This is a hot thing.
10:33And rather than having giving it to China, like the stuff, you know, artificial intelligence,
10:38China is going crazy about it. They're also going crazy on Bitcoin and crypto cryptocurrency.
10:44And I do understand it. I think it's going to be a very hot
10:47industry. And it already is, actually. It has become increasingly apparent
10:52that there are significant challenges to free speech.
10:56Former first lady has a book coming out, a memoir. What do we get from that book? I haven't read it
11:00yet. How important is it for her to put that out? Well, she's a tremendous person, very precise,
11:06very accurate. And I do believe she loves her husband. That's probably the biggest surprise
11:11to a lot of people come to think of it. But she loves her husband. She's a terrific woman,
11:16a terrific first lady. No matter where I go, they just go crazy over Melania.
11:21And lastly, do you where I know you and your safety in the special
11:24secret service, but you worry about your family, too.
11:27Sick and tired of having to have that conversation with my five young children
11:30about a deranged left is clearly motivated by the soundbites of the radical left and
11:35the mainstream media shooting at their grandfather. I do. I don't talk about it,
11:40but I do. I have to worry about family. I have to worry about everybody. I worry about you.
11:44I worry about everybody because, look, we're under siege and no country has ever suffered
11:50like we have for the last three and a half, almost four years when they allow millions of people to
11:55come into our country from prisons, right, from prisons and terrorists and people from mental
12:01institutions. And they take over our parks. Look at New York. You can't play Little League
12:06baseball anymore. You know, that doesn't sound serious, but it is serious when they take away
12:10your whole lifestyle, when they live in hotels better than our incredible veterans who are
12:16lying on the street opposite the main entrance to a hotel. And in that hotel, you have illegal
12:22aliens that have come in. And by the way, destroying the hotel, fighting at levels that
12:26the police don't even want to go into the hotels. When you have that happening in this city and
12:30this country, I do. I want to protect everybody. Lastly, J.D.'s got a debate coming up. CBS,
12:40Margaret Brennan, Norah O'Donnell. Do you think he'll get a fair shot? What advice do you give?
12:45He won't get a fair shot, but he will handle it very good, very smart. I think he's done great.
12:49People are really liking him. He's tough, smart. He loves our country. He's going to have no trouble.
12:57Very nice of the former president and his team to give us that time. Think about his day.
13:00He did Gutfeld. He did a special cryptocurrency stop. He took 200 individual pictures with
13:06celebrities and donors behind the scenes and then just addressed 18,000 people, as well as 5,000
13:12on the outside of the Coliseum. That was just all in one day. Meanwhile, coming up on this show,
13:17celebrities are coming out in droves for the vice president. But do their endorsements even matter?
13:23We're going to ask a superstar actor of our own, Robert Davi, next. But first, it's the media
13:28moments that matter. Pete Hegseth is here to break it all down next. And if you love a yellow
13:33school bus, right? Just there's something about the and most of us, many of us went to school on
13:41the yellow school bus. Wow. Kamala really loves her yellow school buses, but no one loves the
13:46push for electric school buses more than China, who's raking in the cash, according to a new
13:52House of Representatives report. Now, the Biden Harris five billion dollar clean school bus
13:57program might be laudable, but let's think about this. They use four times more taxpayer dollars
14:02for every single bus. And who's standing to collect the Chinese Communist Party? House
14:08Republicans allege and have concluded that China's stranglehold on the EV market is making them
14:13billions in our EV push, raising countless economic and national security concerns.
14:18Just think about it. And the administration isn't taking their time about it either. If they get
14:23their way, every school bus on the road will be replaced by an electric one in five years. It
14:29seems like the only ones who love school buses more than the vice president are the Chinese EV
14:34companies that are set to eat our school lunch. If you know what I'm saying now, it's time for
14:40one of my favorite moments of the week, the moments in media that matter. And here is Pete
14:45Hegseth. Now, Pete, thanks so much for doing this. Yeah. So I gave you a VCR. I got you a cable
14:50television prescription. I got you a TV guide. And I said, pick out the moments in media that stand
14:55out. Were you able to get. I didn't know I was going to have to do that all in the basement of
14:58Fox. Yes. All right. That's the deal. A little bit of bread and water and a VHS tape. And come up.
15:03Did you come up with anything? Incredible week in media. OK, so we all know what happened with
15:07the debate. David Muir, you were watching. We were all watching. But we haven't heard yet.
15:10How does he feel about his performance? You know, when he went home, did he do well? Did he not do
15:15well? Well, here he goes to late night, Brian. Here he is on late night talking about the
15:19criticism he got. Actually, I think this is from Kelly and Mark. Oh, yes. I was stunned by this.
15:26And I know you were, too. Lack of humility. The reason why he got pulled back is because
15:32of the fact checks on one person, not the other. Who was revealed in The L.A. Times is that the
15:38other moderator from ABC said our goal was to watch every single one of Trump's events and
15:43interviews and debates and come up with ways in which he was right. Did she know there was
15:47somebody else on that stage? No, apparently not. By the way, you know who was paying attention,
15:51though? The American people, because his voters, the voters themselves, they they watched. They
15:56saw it. And his ratings are down 10 percent ever since the debate. Seven point six to six point
16:01seven. Look, the ratings are fine. They're still leading. But it shows the American people were a
16:05little sickened by the role they played. You saw Mark Penn wants to do an investigation of the
16:09moderators. Absolutely. What else did you come up with? So I also had a little radio time. You did.
16:14You make it you all mediums of me. I got you a serious subscription. Your subscription. So
16:18little Howard Stern was there. He made a comment. We know he hates Trump. But what does he think
16:23about Trump supporters? Here's Howard Stern. Watch this. I don't agree with Trump politically. I
16:29don't I don't think he should be anywhere near the White House. I don't hate the guy. I hate
16:34the people who vote for him. I think they're stupid. I don't think I do. I'll be honest with
16:39you. I have no respect for you. Hates the people that vote for him. You thought deplorables was a
16:45big deal and it was. This is 10 times as bad. Look, he's not running for office. He's got more
16:49money than you can ever imagine. Maybe he doesn't care. He doesn't get ratings on serious. But to
16:53hate 70 million, maybe more people in America because they vote a certain way. What happened
16:59to Mr. Counterculture? True. It's a sad it's a sad, sad existence at this point. Are you
17:04insulted because some people said you voted for Trump? I did. I don't think people care really
17:09what Howard Stern says. I think he's made himself almost completely irrelevant. Right. We had two
17:13assassinations to go over. No joking. We don't know anything about the first assailant and very
17:18little about the second. But you were shocked about this headline in The New York Times.
17:22So we got all the newspapers, too, in this head that I took my scissors and I cut it out and I
17:25handed it to producers and said, we got to cover this one. Look at this suspect in apparent Trump
17:31assassination plot, crusaded for many causes. And it goes on to talk about I think we had the
17:37full scene. Here it is from The New York Times. Mr. Ruth has been a serial crusader for causes
17:42large and small, dating back to at least 1996 when he campaigned against graffiti in Greensboro,
17:47North Carolina, humanizing him where he lived for decades. In the 90s, he appeared in the pages of
17:52a local newspaper as a family man decorating his 1840s log cabin home for Halloween and as a good
17:58Samaritan who won a law enforcement Oscar for chasing a suspected rapist in his neighborhood.
18:04Are they doing everything they can to make him just look like the everyman?
18:07So you put him he almost was in the category of Lee Harvey Oswald and John Wilkes Booth. Do you
18:13think they were writing glowing stories about Oswald or John Wilkes Booth, even though he was
18:17a famous actor? This to me is sickening. It's it's it's insane. It's insane, but it's entirely
18:24predictable. You think, Brian, at this point, like the New York, you don't want to go to the
18:29next step of what these would they have wanted the shooter to be effective or you pray they
18:35would never go to that next level. But the way in which they they dissect and dismiss and then
18:41turn away from these assassination attempts is staggering. Amazing. Kept a horse in his house,
18:45had no money, but he was traveling to Hawaii and Ukraine on somebody else's bill. Yeah. Lastly,
18:51the world of sports. We covered it. I've heard of sports, sports. Dion Sanders is calling out.
18:57There's this new name, image and likeness. College kids can make money now. A lot of money. And he's
19:02calling out the reporters on why they might be a little jealous. Watch this. Well, once upon a time,
19:08you guys never attacked college players. Now they're making more money than you. And some of
19:12y'all are envious and jealous about that. So you're on the attack. It was hands off a college
19:17player because he's an amateur. Remember? Remember that, guys? Now it's hands on. Go at
19:22him any kind of way you want. They're making more money than me. And I'm mad about it.
19:26He's mad about it. He's I think he's right. But it's OK. Right. If you're making money,
19:30voters are jealous of the athletes. Probably most. I think if you talk to Will Kane, who's
19:34in the sports world, you've been in sports for a lot, too. A lot of them are want to be athletes
19:38who never could make it to that level. Is that fair? I don't know. I'm I'm against the
19:45different sides on this. I think he's way out of bounds. I think these athletes got to be critical
19:49if you drop a pass and you're 19 years old. You got to say, you know, you drop it a pass at 19
19:54years old. But you're basically a professional at this point. Absolutely. You make a four million
19:57dollars. Look at your tennis player. You bars back the best in the world at 16. Make the money. You
20:01get the headlines. Right. Good or bad. And Bill and Pete Hegseth, if we want big ratings, we book
20:06Pete Hegseth. I don't know about that. Watch Fox and Friends on Sunday. It's only in a few hours.
20:11Change your outfit. All right. Six to ten. Meanwhile, next on this show, what role should
20:17technology play in politics? And is a I a friend or a foe? We're going to ask one of the smartest
20:23guys in the business, Tristan Harris. But first, remember, we want to hear from you. You can do
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20:42Painter. Vice President Kamala Harris is accepting an invitation from CNN to a debate. Former
20:47President Trump, again, it would take place on October 23rd. CNN has invited both candidates
20:52to participate. The former president, though, rejected the offer at a rally in North Carolina
20:58earlier today. He says it's too late for another debate because some Americans have already began
21:04to cast their ballots. And President Biden is hosting leaders of Australia,
21:08India and Japan in his hometown of Wilmington, Delaware this weekend. Among other things,
21:13leaders are expressing concern about Russia's budding relationship with with North Korea.
21:19They also condemned terrorism and violent extremism. At one point, President Biden was
21:23caught on a hot mic telling the leaders that China is, quote, testing us with maritime aggression
21:28in the Indo-Pacific. Here is upon us. And we can honestly say the people who brought it
21:33are not quite sure what they have created. While the benefits are encouraging,
21:36the downside is nothing short of intimidating, even for its biggest supporters.
21:41Listen to the CEO of Open AI, Sam Altman. What keeps you up at night?
21:49The rate of change in the world, in the economy from this, we haven't seen it yet. And just because
21:56we haven't seen that yet doesn't mean we can get complacent. Let's say we can make the technology
22:01super safe. We can't kind of do anything about the rate of diffusion through the economy like
22:07people want more and better. Well, diffusion through the economy, that means jobs. Joining
22:11us now to discuss it, the future of AI, the best we can in this few short time. Tristan Harris is
22:16back with us. The Center for Humane Technology, co-founder and host of your undivided attention
22:21podcast, along with the creator of the infinite scroll and also a founder of humane technology,
22:27Asa Raskin. Welcome to both of you. Talked to you on radio. Kind enough to come back for the
22:31weekend. I appreciate it. Asa, for you, what should people know about AI? The people that
22:36have never been to Silicon Valley have no idea what's in these phones. Well, what people should
22:41know is that it's moving incredibly quickly. It's the one technology that moves faster than even
22:47the inventors think it will. And the second thing they need to know is that we have a very short
22:53period of time before AI is entangled in our society. So imagine social media. We had a brief
23:00period back in 2012 when we could have set up social media in a different way, not have all
23:04the downstream harms. That is the moment we're in now with AI. So you heard what Sam Altman said.
23:09He said he doesn't really know what's next, but he also went on to say he's in contact with the
23:13government almost every day. It's a little different. They're not looking to highlight
23:17social. You guys aren't looking to highlight social media companies. You want to work with
23:20the government. What is your greatest concern? Tell me what the guardrails look like.
23:25Well, so the challenge is that AI is moving so fast that the harms are showing up faster than
23:31we have defensive measures. And the confusing thing about AI, because we all want the benefits,
23:36both Asa and I had a parent who we lost to cancer. So we want AI that accelerates cancer drugs,
23:41that gives us new material science, all the benefits. But the confusing thing about AI
23:46is the promise is inseparable from the peril. The same AI that speaks the language of images
23:53can generate images of President Biden and Trump hugging and doing something they didn't do,
23:57but can also generate this proliferation of deepfake news that's hitting the classroom
24:01and causing havoc. The same AI that speaks the language of biology that can invent new
24:06super vaccines can also invent new super viruses. And we can't separate the promise from the peril.
24:12And so if we want to change the outcome, we need to change the incentives. Right now,
24:16the company's incentives are to race to roll out, to roll out a similar to social media.
24:21So I'll beat you there. That's right. MySpace became Facebook and Facebook won MySpace
24:27no longer existent. And you're saying slow down. And you said something to me. Interesting.
24:32A lot. Interesting. Off mic. You said, why is it important for us to be China?
24:37We beat them first to social media. What good did it do? Yeah, that's exactly right. The question,
24:41when anyone asks you, but what about China with AI? What you should have in your head is say,
24:46but what about social media? We beat China to social media. But did that make our society that
24:52make America stronger or weaker? It made us more vulnerable. So, you know, Tristan and I are both
24:59builders. And they put in the safeguards. And they put in safeguards. Exactly. And so the way we are
25:04building with technology, the open AI, Google that are building with technology, it's sort of like
25:09a Jenga tower. That is to get these amazing new benefits. They're pulling out blocks that
25:14our society depends on. Understood. Now, give me an example. For example, we see
25:20there could be Tristan Harris giving a lecture that you never gave. It could look exactly like
25:24you. Yeah. And I know that Governor Newsom came out and said it's not legal now up until the
25:29election to do a meme using AI because you don't want to see Donald Trump saying something or
25:34or the vice president saying something she didn't. That's an example of the guardrails.
25:39Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's a small. It's very small. We need a whole set of things. Now,
25:43I know that it might seem overwhelming. There's so many issues, unemployment, biology risks,
25:48you know, deep fakes, audio fraud, scams. But there's some simple things we can do because
25:52right now we're doing nothing. So we can start simple liability. We believe that if the companies
25:58were held accountable, as he said, for the Jenga tower, you're pulling out a foundational block of
26:02no one knows what's true. If the companies were accountable for the blocks that they're pulling
26:06out from the bottom, then they would be more incentivized to make sure they're strengthening
26:10the foundations. And we're builders. We believe we can get to that other future. But we need things
26:14like liability. We need to support whistleblowers because, for example, the government, as you know,
26:19doesn't have a lot of AI expertise. So what do we do in the meantime? Let's protect the
26:23whistleblowers inside the companies who can see the red lights start flashing on the control panel
26:28so that they can come out and we can make sure we're not creating risks in society we can't
26:32handle. Like, for example, you just said something when coming into the studio today. You said about
26:37the best prices. Tell them the phone calls were happening. Oh, that's right. So this morning I
26:41opened up Twitter and I saw that some programmer had hooked up AI to be able to call hotels on
26:48your behalf and negotiate price. Now, that sounds great, but the hotels had no idea that it was an
26:54AI calling speaking in a human voice that sounded very realistic, both in English and in Spanish.
26:59What happens when Russia or China or any of our foreign adversaries start spinning up and making
27:06hundreds of thousands of counterfeit human beings that can call, can post on social media? We have
27:11every language to protect against that. Yeah, take a step back for one second because you and I are on
27:15the same side when it comes to TikTok. You've educated me on it. I think everyone should hear
27:19it. The courts heard the case that TikTok is trying to stay in the U.S., that it is not dangerous
27:25when we have some congressmen that found out that it is. They already know that they have to answer
27:29the Communist Party and one of the members of the Communist Party is actually on the board
27:32of TikTok and they've already looked into reporters and hacked into their accounts.
27:36What should we know about TikTok? Yeah, you know, I think there's one simple question Americans can
27:43ask themselves. Go back to 1968. Would you have allowed the Soviet Union to control television
27:49programming for the entire Western world right before your election? But they say TikTok USA
27:55doesn't give access back to Beijing. Well, as you know, the studies that were coming out of
28:00the Rutgers Network Contagion Institute showed that if you looked on Instagram and TikTok for
28:05any of any regular topic, they go at the same rate, meaning the number of views and the number
28:09of likes are the same for most topics. But for the topics that were sensitive to the Chinese
28:14Communist Party, the Uyghurs, Israel-Gaza issues, Tiananmen Square, they're completely different.
28:21It shows that they're putting their finger on the scale and they're saying we want the people
28:25to believe this instead of that. It's not about free speech. It's about the reach that the Chinese
28:30Communist Party can influence TikTok to shape what people are seeing. And what do the Chinese
28:35people see on TikTok? Educational videos. It shuts off at 11. We've got 24 hours. We've got all type
28:40of crazy memes. They give their society the digital spinach version of TikTok and we get the digital
28:46fentanyl version of TikTok. Understood. So Tristan and Eiza, you're on the offensive to try at this
28:50moment, this window while it's open, to do it the right way. That's right. That's exactly right.
28:54Thanks so much. Appreciate you guys. All right. Meanwhile, coming up next, catch me on the History,
28:59Liberty and Laughs Tour. We have some fun on stage next stop, Peachtscale, New York. Just about an
29:02hour outside New York City coming up October 20th. We look back at our great past and our future.
29:08You saw also you could watch on Fox Nation. They were co-producing on that. We got specials for
29:12anyone that come in there in terms of your subscription. And next on this show, what
29:16impact, if any, should celebrities have on this election? We're going to talk to actor extraordinaire
29:21Robert Davi about that. Rush, superstar Taylor Swift, Martha Stewart. You're seeing most of the
29:27celebrities out there that you follow throwing their support behind. Drumroll, please. Vice
29:32President Kamala Harris for president, unfortunately, using the Get Out the Vote initiative as a get out
29:38a vote for the candidate that I want you to vote for. But not all celebrities think it's their
29:43place to get involved. Singer and music producer Pharrell Williams telling The Hollywood Reporter
29:49this, quote, I don't do politics. In fact, I get annoyed sometimes when I see celebrities trying
29:54to tell you who to vote for. There are celebrities that I respect, that I have an opinion, that I
29:59respect, but not all of them. I'm one of the people who says, what the heck? Shut up. Nobody asked you.
30:06So what impact do celebrities have on the election and why does some weigh in and others stay out?
30:11Let's ask a Emmy award winning actor and one of the most, the industry's most recognizable tough
30:16guys, Robert Davi, who is known for movies like Goonies, James Bond, talking about Die Hard,
30:22just to name a few. How about 160 and still going? Robert Davi, welcome.
30:29Thank you for having me, Brian, on One Nation. I guess I guess, Robert, the first thing I don't
30:33have to tell you that a lot of celebrities are weighing in this election cycle.
30:36Your thoughts, what we saw with Oprah this week and and Taylor Swift last.
30:43Well, first off, I think with every celebrity is a citizen and citizens have a right to speak and
30:49say who they want to represent or who they're voting for. That's OK. And a lot of the people
30:53are tremendously creative and they should speak out. But there's a kind of disconnect from those
31:00celebrities because I've been in Hollywood 46 years. I was there when they were conservatives
31:05like Sinatra, Jimmy Stewart and Charlton Heston and many others. And Johnny Carson. And there
31:12was a balance back then. As we know today, the media, there's no balance. You have people like
31:16Oprah, three billion dollars. You've got Lady Gaga, one hundred and fifty million dollars.
31:21Chris Rock, 60 million. Meryl Streep, 200 million. Julia Roberts, 250 million. Ben Stiller,
31:28200 million. Everybody going like this. So they're not the rank and file. They're not the teamsters
31:34that actually make the sets work. That's 60 percent of the teamsters for Donald Trump. So
31:40there's a huge disconnect in terms of money and the understanding of what the problems of our
31:45nation are. The left, the Democratic Party, has been hijacked by an extreme woke ideology
31:51from the left, as we've even seen from AOC the other day. Her comment on probably one of the
31:57biggest interesting combats against terrorism. She criticized that. And many of the left is
32:06doing that. It continues to do that with the exploding pages here, with the exploding pages
32:10and exploding walkie talkies in Israel. She said there's a booby trap rule when it comes to U.N.
32:16lessons of war. I'm not sure what bar she learned that at, but it's not even true.
32:21So that type of thing. But for you, Robert, where do you stand?
32:27Well, I'm for Donald Trump. I've been for Donald Trump the day he announced.
32:31I said Donald Trump was going to win. I wrote it on Breitbart the day he came down the escalator
32:35in 2015. I understood it before many of the people, even on the Fox network,
32:40who were not for Trump initially and then became for Trump.
33:35I'm
33:55not
34:25for
34:53Donald
35:15Trump.
35:45So
36:15so