El comunicador fue el protagonista de un capítulo lleno de emociones y profundos recuerdos de su vida personal.
En el quinto capítulo de la cuarta temporada de "De tú a tú", Martín Cárcamo llegó hasta la casa de los padres de Daniel Valenzuela en Papudo, donde conoció más acerca de su vida íntima y carrera profesional.
Es así, como al animador habló sobre sus inicios en televisión, su historia familiar, el término de su matrimonio con Paloma Aliaga, la quebrantada relación con su hermano tras haber iniciado un romance con su ex esposa, la fuerte depresión que lo afectó en plena pandemia y la cercana relación con sus hijas.
En el quinto capítulo de la cuarta temporada de "De tú a tú", Martín Cárcamo llegó hasta la casa de los padres de Daniel Valenzuela en Papudo, donde conoció más acerca de su vida íntima y carrera profesional.
Es así, como al animador habló sobre sus inicios en televisión, su historia familiar, el término de su matrimonio con Paloma Aliaga, la quebrantada relación con su hermano tras haber iniciado un romance con su ex esposa, la fuerte depresión que lo afectó en plena pandemia y la cercana relación con sus hijas.
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00:00:00Very good night. Welcome to a new episode of You to You.
00:00:12The truth is that today's presentation comes out of my heart.
00:00:15I am in this wonderful place, in Papugo, to introduce a great friend.
00:00:21A man who started television at the same time as me.
00:00:25In fact, we started together, but he had a vocation as a singer.
00:00:28He ended up animating and doing successful radio shows.
00:00:31He is the father of two wonderful daughters.
00:00:34And I think he has a story worthy of telling.
00:00:37And with a very resilient life.
00:00:40Today we are going to talk to Daniel Valenzuela.
00:00:43Join me.
00:00:49Your parents are living here?
00:00:50They are living already.
00:00:51Look, it was hard for them to make the decision.
00:00:53Because they are tremendous hosts.
00:00:55Do your parents have a view from above?
00:00:56They have a view of the sea, a little bit of the sea.
00:00:58When they make love, I imagine.
00:01:01Because they still do it.
00:01:02Hey, believe me, Martin, that I feel deeply in love with my husband.
00:01:06Do butterflies move in the water?
00:01:07Yes, anyway.
00:01:08You started dating very young.
00:01:10Three spoons and the potato, Martin.
00:01:11Because the man fell in love.
00:01:12Three spoons.
00:01:13And here is the potato.
00:01:16Hello, the queen.
00:01:18Look, look, look.
00:01:20I recognize myself as a fan of yours.
00:01:22I am your fan.
00:01:22Oh, look.
00:01:24You know, because you are dry.
00:01:25Dry, dry, dry, dry.
00:01:26The first commercial that Lola did was two days ago.
00:01:29She was in the clinic, remember?
00:01:31Yes, I helped her.
00:01:32And she told us, we are doing something for a brand of diapers.
00:01:35She knew it.
00:01:36And she said, we can put it in the incubator.
00:01:38Nothing else, we are going to put it in the incubator.
00:01:40And she said, what do you do?
00:01:42Let's take advantage of it.
00:01:43And she did the first commercial in two days.
00:01:46She is beautiful.
00:01:47Yes, beautiful.
00:01:48Morena, morena of my heart.
00:01:49Morena is mine.
00:01:50She is very beautiful.
00:01:51She is my daughter-in-law.
00:01:52Yes.
00:01:52What?
00:01:53Yes, she is my granddaughter-in-law.
00:01:54She is not my daughter-in-law.
00:01:55Here we are all a family.
00:01:57All.
00:01:58Madrid, Madrid.
00:01:59Now that everything is here, let's do everything together.
00:02:05For me, he is a person that I need.
00:02:08And he is very special to me, because he makes my days very happy.
00:02:13Why are you excited?
00:02:14Because, I don't know, I'm excited to talk about him,
00:02:18because maybe we don't show it as much as daughters,
00:02:22as much as we love him, but really, he is necessary for us.
00:02:28Let's go.
00:02:29Let's go.
00:02:30That's being successful, right?
00:02:32That's it, more than being successful.
00:02:33Yes.
00:02:34You told me, in a pandemic, can I be there?
00:02:36I have nothing, I have no one.
00:02:38I stayed on the radio, and there came the ghosts.
00:02:40Bad financially, I'm in pain, alone.
00:02:46And there I said, I need someone to help me.
00:02:49I can't do it alone.
00:02:52And there I looked for help.
00:02:53Did it cost you a lot to fall in love again?
00:02:57If we understand by falling in love, I know what it is.
00:03:00Did you go out on the field earlier?
00:03:01Yes, no, no, after a while.
00:03:03How long did you stay?
00:03:05A year and a half I was.
00:03:06And then I got carried away very quickly.
00:03:10Do you think that you have, or have,
00:03:12you have the same relationship with your brother again, or not anymore?
00:03:17No, I wouldn't lie to you.
00:03:20And how are you today with Paloma?
00:03:21Well, with her it has cost me a lot less.
00:03:24Because there is a debt, there is an injustice.
00:03:50Daniel!
00:03:52Hey, how are you?
00:03:55Good, how are you?
00:03:57Thank you for accepting to come to my parents' house.
00:04:00Here are my parents in Papua, and I usually come.
00:04:02I haven't come in a long time, so thank you for joining me.
00:04:05It's incredible to see your parents, I haven't seen them in many years.
00:04:07Yes, I thank you on the table,
00:04:09on the table of batucos with the Valenzuelas de Hedo,
00:04:11and of vineyards with the Carcobopapis.
00:04:13Long conversations.
00:04:15Because we have known each other since the year 2000.
00:04:191999-2000.
00:04:21So it's 24 years.
00:04:23How has it happened?
00:04:25Five more days have added up to our lives, clearly,
00:04:27and a little more too,
00:04:29and many things have happened.
00:04:31We met single, without children.
00:04:33The two of us were breaking up, you were a little younger than me.
00:04:35How old are you?
00:04:37I was 22, 22-23 years old.
00:04:39I was 25.
00:04:41These are the friendships that last in time,
00:04:43because we lived many things together.
00:04:45Too many things together.
00:04:48We hung out together,
00:04:50we were extra young all the time,
00:04:52but also later we did the events, we flirted.
00:04:54Of course.
00:04:56So thank you for being here.
00:04:58Look, my dad lives up there.
00:05:00Your dad is living here?
00:05:02It was hard for them to make the decision,
00:05:04because they are tremendous hosts.
00:05:06There's the sea, right?
00:05:08Yes, there's the sea.
00:05:10Does your dad have a view from up there?
00:05:12He has a view of the sea, a little bit of the sea.
00:05:14When they make love, I imagine,
00:05:16you have three brothers.
00:05:18You are the oldest,
00:05:20your name is the same as your dad's,
00:05:22then Chino, and then your sister.
00:05:24Perfect.
00:05:26Psychologist, thank God.
00:05:28It had to be.
00:05:30I have a question.
00:05:32When you came here, did you sleep here?
00:05:34Did you go out at night or not?
00:05:36Look, here I had my...
00:05:38Did you have sex here?
00:05:40Yes, I had my little sex.
00:05:42It lasted a while, three weeks.
00:05:44That's how I am.
00:05:46And I spent a lot of time here.
00:05:48But not anymore.
00:05:50Now I come here with my daughters.
00:05:52When I want to find peace and tranquility,
00:05:54I come here. And eat good food too.
00:05:56Do you feel that your dad's life
00:05:58has changed a little?
00:06:00Their life has changed,
00:06:02and my life has changed too.
00:06:04Look, now that they are farther away,
00:06:06I see them more.
00:06:08Why?
00:06:10Because I have the need to see them more.
00:06:12I hope they don't see us in this part,
00:06:14but I am aware of the farewell.
00:06:16They are going to leave.
00:06:18Ah, that's what you mean.
00:06:20Yes, yes.
00:06:22It's not because I am aware of death.
00:06:24On the contrary, I am aware of life.
00:06:26That's what guides them.
00:06:28And I want to spend more time with them.
00:06:30I want to thank them.
00:06:32I don't like mamón anymore.
00:06:34But I do enjoy the moments with them.
00:06:36I try to call them every day.
00:06:38Because at any minute, I am very unaware of that.
00:06:40We are going to talk to your dad.
00:06:42And then we'll talk upstairs.
00:06:44What are we going to drink? Sour or chocolate?
00:06:46I am just drinking water.
00:06:56Welcome.
00:06:58Why do you have your dad's apartment?
00:07:00Of course.
00:07:02You have to talk to the authorities.
00:07:04You have to have it.
00:07:06Total shirt.
00:07:08Look, look, look.
00:07:10The Bible is always present.
00:07:12Your family is very religious.
00:07:14Your parents are very religious.
00:07:16There is a contradiction.
00:07:18I am also very religious.
00:07:20I feel that what I read is what makes me feel good.
00:07:22A personal relationship with God.
00:07:24I feel that what makes me feel good
00:07:26and I believe in that very often
00:07:28is the personal relationship with God.
00:07:30But it's nice.
00:07:32We were talking about the owners of the house.
00:07:34It was Martín who sold them.
00:07:36I don't think I saw them.
00:07:38How many years ago?
00:07:40But many years.
00:07:42How are you Martín?
00:07:44How are you?
00:07:46Martín, welcome.
00:07:48How nice to see you.
00:07:50My mom is the same, my dad is good.
00:07:52Your mom is the same.
00:07:54Here we are waiting for him as always.
00:07:56There are traditions that are not lost.
00:07:58Extraordinary.
00:08:00Let's make a toast.
00:08:02To this beautiful friendship
00:08:04of so many years.
00:08:06And thank you for having me in your house.
00:08:08With the child.
00:08:10Cheers.
00:08:12Cheers.
00:08:14It's good, right?
00:08:16I hope I didn't take too long.
00:08:18This is a road without return.
00:08:20Without return.
00:08:22How long have you been together?
00:08:24We have been seeing each other for 48 years.
00:08:26We are going to be married
00:08:28and one of us is from Polo.
00:08:30We made it short.
00:08:32Three spoons and the potato, Martín.
00:08:34Because the man fell in love.
00:08:36Three spoons and here is the potato.
00:08:40That's how it is.
00:08:42He is the blessed one.
00:08:44Tell me the story.
00:08:46I was going to ask you that.
00:08:48How was it? Because you were super young.
00:08:50Super young, yes.
00:08:52He followed me for a long time.
00:08:54And I didn't want to because I didn't like him.
00:08:56She won me over.
00:08:58They didn't let me go to Polo.
00:09:00I was 15 years old when I met him.
00:09:02It was difficult
00:09:04to see each other.
00:09:06We saw each other once a month.
00:09:12I like difficulties.
00:09:14And that attracts me.
00:09:16He was a conqueror.
00:09:18He was a difficult woman.
00:09:20He is a very good partner.
00:09:22I feel blessed with the partner
00:09:24that God put in my life.
00:09:26Believe me, Martín.
00:09:28I feel deeply in love with my husband.
00:09:30My heart still beats for him.
00:09:32I look at him through the window
00:09:34to see if he comes.
00:09:36There are people who are satisfied with little.
00:09:38Really?
00:09:40Yes, anyway.
00:09:42I don't know if I can say this.
00:09:44Maybe I can.
00:09:46He is the only guy in her life.
00:09:48How is that possible?
00:09:50This is true.
00:09:52He was my first Polo.
00:09:54He was the only Polo I had.
00:09:56The only man in my life.
00:09:58The only body you have touched
00:10:00in your life
00:10:02is this beautiful body.
00:10:04Can I ask the king a question?
00:10:06No, no, no.
00:10:08Don't get mad.
00:10:10Please, don't get mad.
00:10:12I know who this guy is.
00:10:14I want to know the apartment.
00:10:16The apartment is very well thought out.
00:10:18It is a beach apartment
00:10:20with a beautiful view.
00:10:22Do you come here alone?
00:10:24Yes, we come here alone.
00:10:26Look how beautiful
00:10:28this picture is.
00:10:30This is my first daughter.
00:10:32This is my first daughter.
00:10:34She is sweet like a child.
00:10:36But 15 years are very difficult.
00:10:38Short, precise WhatsApp.
00:10:40Tell me, pass me, thank you, bye.
00:10:42It happened to you, didn't it?
00:10:44But deep inside I miss her.
00:10:46She is a very good person.
00:10:48I lost her when I was 15.
00:10:50I lost her and I miss her.
00:10:52I miss her a lot.
00:10:54I haven't lost her either.
00:10:56Don't get mad.
00:10:58You are 15 years old.
00:11:00You went to Cuba with your dad.
00:11:02No, but I just turned 20.
00:11:04No, you didn't turn 20.
00:11:06I lost her because
00:11:08we go to the beach.
00:11:10I don't have a car, I have a friend.
00:11:12But you are 15 years old.
00:11:14Don't make it harder for me.
00:11:16She is beautiful.
00:11:18Morena is my heart.
00:11:20Morena is mine.
00:11:22She is my daughter.
00:11:24She is my granddaughter and she is our daughter.
00:11:26Here we treat everyone as family.
00:11:28Everyone.
00:11:30Since she is here,
00:11:32we do everything together.
00:11:36Here we try to simplify it.
00:11:40I want to show you another beautiful picture.
00:11:42She is Alondra.
00:11:44She is Alondra.
00:11:46I read her picture.
00:11:48This picture was in the Caribbean.
00:11:50We went on vacation.
00:11:52She is a great artist.
00:11:54She is a great artist.
00:11:56She is a great artist.
00:11:58She is a great artist.
00:12:00She is a great artist.
00:12:02If you wanted to be an artist,
00:12:04you would be fascinated.
00:12:06And this?
00:12:08This is a cartoon.
00:12:10This is yours.
00:12:12I lost her.
00:12:14I lost her.
00:12:16Can I go there?
00:12:18Of course.
00:12:20Come in, Martin.
00:12:22Excuse me.
00:12:24Where do you sleep?
00:12:26Here is my place.
00:12:28Next to the library.
00:12:30I want to introduce you.
00:12:32Hello, queen.
00:12:34She is Alondra.
00:12:36How are you, Alondra?
00:12:38Martin, Alondra.
00:12:40I am your fan.
00:12:42I am your fan.
00:12:44You are amazing.
00:12:48How long have you been acting?
00:12:50Since I was 5 years old.
00:12:52And today you are 12.
00:12:54How many TV shows have you done?
00:12:564 or 5.
00:12:58This is the fifth.
00:13:00And movies?
00:13:023.
00:13:04Tell me what this is.
00:13:06This is from my last movie.
00:13:08It was one of the most important.
00:13:12What is this?
00:13:14I don't know.
00:13:38This has to do with the book.
00:13:40No.
00:13:42There is a main character.
00:13:44The main character of the movie?
00:13:46A foreigner.
00:13:48A murderer.
00:13:50An enemy of Rome.
00:13:52Tell me.
00:13:54Why did you love him?
00:13:56It is useless for me to tell you.
00:13:58You wouldn't understand.
00:14:00Forgive me, Antonino.
00:14:06I love you, Spartacus.
00:14:08Like my own father.
00:14:24And this is how my family
00:14:26officially made me a movie storyteller.
00:14:28It meant a lot to her.
00:14:30It was a long casting.
00:14:32One year.
00:14:34After a year of casting,
00:14:36we lived together.
00:14:38Maria Elena lived with us for 3 months.
00:14:40And you two left?
00:14:42Yes.
00:14:44And sometimes my mom.
00:14:46It was an experience
00:14:48that I will never forget.
00:14:50I loved that experience.
00:14:52And being with your dad for 3 months?
00:14:54How was it?
00:14:56At first, it was hard.
00:14:58You were used to it.
00:15:00At first, he was a bit annoying.
00:15:02We wanted to change rooms.
00:15:04But I got used to it.
00:15:06It was fun.
00:15:08Did your dad support you?
00:15:10Yes, a lot.
00:15:12How is your dad?
00:15:14He is a very motivating person.
00:15:16I think what I like about him
00:15:18is that he supports people.
00:15:20Why?
00:15:22I don't know.
00:15:24He is always with us.
00:15:26He always helps us.
00:15:28When we feel bad,
00:15:30he always motivates us.
00:15:32When he is feeling bad,
00:15:34he is always happy.
00:15:38Kids understand everything.
00:15:40Impressive.
00:15:42I want to talk to your dad now.
00:15:44And then I want to talk to you.
00:15:46Now?
00:15:54Cheers!
00:15:56To this beautiful Vescozau.
00:15:58Tell me, where were you born?
00:16:00I was born in Santiago.
00:16:02I don't remember it well.
00:16:04Maybe it was a hospital.
00:16:06I don't know.
00:16:08But it was hard.
00:16:10My mom was very young.
00:16:12She had me when I was 17.
00:16:14Tell me about your dad's story.
00:16:16He had me when I was a kid.
00:16:18It was my first experience.
00:16:20I imagined everything.
00:16:22I came from a very strict family.
00:16:24He was very messy.
00:16:26I was the closest to what I am today.
00:16:28When I was 21,
00:16:30I was surprised.
00:16:32They got married.
00:16:34They were very young.
00:16:36They got married after you were born?
00:16:38Yes.
00:16:40How did your family react?
00:16:42They didn't like it.
00:16:44They had to deal with it for a while.
00:16:46I understand.
00:16:48It was hard.
00:16:50It happens.
00:16:52There is a rejection.
00:16:54Maybe a rage.
00:16:56My family was calm.
00:16:58They helped me a lot.
00:17:00But they had to deal with it.
00:17:02They had to learn to deal with it alone.
00:17:04They had to do anything.
00:17:06They had to sell.
00:17:08I don't have fresh memories.
00:17:10I was very young.
00:17:12But they left the house.
00:17:14They rented a house.
00:17:16Was your mom in school?
00:17:18Yes.
00:17:20She was finishing school.
00:17:22She was finishing school.
00:17:24It must have been hard.
00:17:26Yes, it was hard.
00:17:28We were a strict family.
00:17:30We didn't go out on weekends.
00:17:32We didn't have a lot of permits.
00:17:34We were poor.
00:17:36My brother was from a different family.
00:17:38They fell in love.
00:17:40They had a son.
00:17:42It was me.
00:17:44I helped him as much as I could.
00:17:46I helped him move forward.
00:17:48With the results,
00:17:50after 40 years,
00:17:52I'm very proud of them.
00:17:54How were the first years?
00:17:56Where did your parents live?
00:17:58They moved to Pudahuel.
00:18:00In all areas.
00:18:02We lived there.
00:18:04They sold handicrafts.
00:18:06They sold something.
00:18:08They sold on the street.
00:18:10They shared a room.
00:18:12It wasn't the best conditions.
00:18:14Pudahuel, I remember.
00:18:16Then it got a little better.
00:18:18I don't know if they rented a house in the center.
00:18:20Near Blanconcalá.
00:18:22Conferencia Street.
00:18:24I have fresh memories there.
00:18:26My brother was there too.
00:18:28My dad had a stable job.
00:18:30He worked at a bank.
00:18:32That's how they started.
00:18:34My mom sold.
00:18:36Then she sold in stores.
00:18:38Before, you could do a bank career.
00:18:40My grandfather worked at a bank.
00:18:42He got hooked on a bank.
00:18:44Before, you could do a career.
00:18:46In fact, he took courses.
00:18:48The situation was getting better.
00:18:50Look at the picture I have here.
00:18:54Of course.
00:18:56My mom was young.
00:18:58She was a little girl.
00:19:00My dad too.
00:19:02Your mom was two years older
00:19:04than your older daughter.
00:19:06Don't say that.
00:19:08What's the difference
00:19:10between you and your brother?
00:19:12He comes after you.
00:19:14I took care of my brother for three years.
00:19:16Perfect.
00:19:20Were you shy as a kid?
00:19:22Or did you have a lot of personality?
00:19:24There are processes.
00:19:26For example,
00:19:28there is a very important inflection point.
00:19:30In elementary school,
00:19:32my parents were growing
00:19:34and improving their economic conditions.
00:19:36I was in the first grade
00:19:38at a school that I thank a lot.
00:19:40It was a subsidized municipal school.
00:19:42It was getting better.
00:19:44In first grade,
00:19:46which is a very difficult age,
00:19:48with the best of their love,
00:19:50they gave me better conditions
00:19:52and they changed me to a private school.
00:19:54We lived in Recoleta.
00:19:56That was a problem.
00:19:58I took it that way.
00:20:00But it was a lot.
00:20:02I arrived at this new private school
00:20:04and it was in Recoleta.
00:20:06The bell rang.
00:20:08My parents were having a hard time.
00:20:10The same shoes as last year.
00:20:12Not all the school,
00:20:14but that group
00:20:16gave me a lot of attention.
00:20:18I had a lot of personality
00:20:20up to the eighth grade.
00:20:22I sang with my grandmother.
00:20:24I had a successful program.
00:20:26I did the circuit singing.
00:20:28My grandmother took me to sing.
00:20:30I sang at home,
00:20:32but I went to the well.
00:20:34Because of these things.
00:20:36What happened to you?
00:20:38What did you start to feel?
00:20:40I had a 6.8 in another school.
00:20:42They changed me.
00:20:44I was in the classroom.
00:20:46Why don't they transfer me?
00:20:48English classes in a laboratory.
00:20:50They sing in my earphone.
00:20:52They give me a book.
00:20:54And I saw that everyone answered.
00:20:56I had nothing yet.
00:20:58I didn't know what to answer.
00:21:00Red in English.
00:21:02After the 6.8 I had,
00:21:04star ring, firefly, singing and everything,
00:21:06I had a 6.8 in Recoleta.
00:21:08It was a very hard process.
00:21:10Did you talk about it to your dad?
00:21:12I didn't talk to him.
00:21:14Until I finished high school.
00:21:16Did you pass first or second?
00:21:18I was in the last place.
00:21:20I didn't talk.
00:21:22I was very retarded.
00:21:24I didn't dare to ask anything.
00:21:26I fought not to repeat.
00:21:28I never repeated.
00:21:30But when I finished high school,
00:21:32I told them,
00:21:34thank God I finished this shitty school.
00:21:36It hurt their soul.
00:21:38I understand it today.
00:21:40All the effort, a life.
00:21:42You didn't tell them anything about first or second grade?
00:21:44Nothing.
00:21:46We talked about it a while ago.
00:21:48We agreed on some criteria.
00:21:50But it hurt them.
00:21:52Now I understand.
00:21:54It was a big effort.
00:21:56And you didn't face the people
00:21:58who threw you bad vibes?
00:22:00No, I didn't.
00:22:02I went inside.
00:22:04I never talked about first or second grade.
00:22:06I never asked in class.
00:22:08I only had three or four friends
00:22:10that I still have today.
00:22:12You went inside?
00:22:14No, inside.
00:22:16It was a very powerful thing.
00:22:18I came to sing.
00:22:20Until in middle school,
00:22:22I was with bad grades.
00:22:24I didn't know what to do.
00:22:26Then I said,
00:22:28I had the opportunity to sing again.
00:22:30I dared.
00:22:32I said,
00:22:34come with me.
00:22:36I don't know where,
00:22:38but the cameras changed me.
00:22:40There you flourished?
00:22:42Of course.
00:22:44I sang and I was different.
00:23:02In a beautiful and total feeling.
00:23:06Passion on the feet.
00:23:10And I said, I don't care.
00:23:12I was finishing high school.
00:23:14And there I regained my personality.
00:23:16And I kept going.
00:23:18But I didn't ask.
00:23:20Then I started studying.
00:23:22I first studied a bachelor's degree in humanities.
00:23:24Then, a bachelor's degree in humanities.
00:23:26I studied there for about a year.
00:23:28And until then, micro and macro economy.
00:23:30A headache.
00:23:32I couldn't with micro and macro economy.
00:23:34So I told my father,
00:23:36I don't want this question.
00:23:38What was the alternative?
00:23:40Study law, psychology or journalism.
00:23:42I told him, I don't want this question.
00:23:44I don't give up.
00:23:46He said, you have to assume the consequences.
00:23:48You have to work.
00:23:50I was a junior.
00:23:52He was already in the bank.
00:23:54He had an office.
00:23:56My uncle also had another office.
00:23:58What was your job?
00:24:00A lot of papers.
00:24:02They gave me a lot of responsibilities.
00:24:04Documents, I got to know the whole center.
00:24:06All the procedures.
00:24:08Until my father told me,
00:24:10there is a question that might interest you.
00:24:12I said, my father?
00:24:14He said, you are looking for
00:24:16comparsas in the municipal theater.
00:24:18Comparsas?
00:24:20They are extras to be in a German opera.
00:24:22A friend of mine
00:24:24who had the hook in the municipal theater.
00:24:26I liked it.
00:24:28I said, how much is it?
00:24:30They paid well.
00:24:32A German opera of 5 hours.
00:24:345 hours.
00:24:36With the German rigor.
00:24:38You had to be 3 days a week
00:24:40rehearsing.
00:24:42There were 50 soldiers.
00:24:445 hours of opera.
00:24:46I left in a minute and a half.
00:24:48I died and they took me out.
00:24:50That was all my participation.
00:24:52All my participation.
00:24:54I was going to rehearse happily.
00:24:56I left the papers.
00:24:58They paid me well.
00:25:00Your paper lasted 1 minute and a half.
00:25:021 minute and a half.
00:25:04In an opera of 5 hours.
00:25:06I knew where to go.
00:25:08You had to sing.
00:25:10I listened to the German song.
00:25:12I don't remember.
00:25:14An opera in German.
00:25:16I didn't understand anything.
00:25:18I rehearsed 3 times a week for 2 months.
00:25:20To die.
00:25:221 minute and a half.
00:25:24I crossed myself.
00:25:26I thought I was going to die.
00:25:28I left.
00:25:30I invited my parents.
00:25:32They got bored in 5 hours.
00:25:34They didn't understand anything.
00:25:36They didn't understand opera.
00:25:38I wanted to know where the son was.
00:25:40Did they see me?
00:25:42Yes.
00:25:44They were all the same.
00:25:4650 soldiers.
00:25:48I was the one who died 7th.
00:25:50It's a lie.
00:25:52They didn't understand.
00:25:54I liked it.
00:25:56This is my thing.
00:25:58This is my thing.
00:26:00I like it.
00:26:02They didn't see me.
00:26:04I arrived at 5 o'clock.
00:26:06This is my thing.
00:26:08I wanted to study something with this.
00:26:10I studied audiovisual communication.
00:26:12I had the opportunity to audition.
00:26:14A friend of mine who did commercials told me
00:26:16they were looking for an animator.
00:26:18I said I couldn't fail.
00:26:20I had to be brave.
00:26:22If I like the light,
00:26:24I'm going to take this opportunity.
00:26:26But it wasn't easy.
00:26:28There is a very important detail.
00:26:30I was in line for one of the final exams
00:26:32when I was in 4th grade.
00:26:34With the worst teacher.
00:26:36Valenzuela was the last one in line.
00:26:38Valenzuela.
00:26:40They were just in Araya.
00:26:42They were in Araya
00:26:44and they called me from the channel.
00:26:46They asked me if I had been selected.
00:26:48I said no.
00:26:50There were a lot of people.
00:26:52I think there were 12.
00:26:54They asked me where I was.
00:26:56I said in the channel.
00:26:58They asked me if I was in Araya
00:27:00and I was in Valenzuela.
00:27:02They told me to run the list.
00:27:04My heart started beating.
00:27:06What should I do?
00:27:08What should I do?
00:27:10This is going to take an hour and a half.
00:27:12I couldn't make it.
00:27:14With Barrera, Conchera,
00:27:16Día, Poblete, López.
00:27:18All the lines.
00:27:20I ran until I got there.
00:27:22I said I was Valenzuela.
00:27:24The teacher said
00:27:26Barrera, go ahead.
00:27:28I went in.
00:27:30She knew me.
00:27:32No sir, you are Valenzuela.
00:27:34It's your turn.
00:27:36She was very tough.
00:27:38I said teacher, please.
00:27:40I have an important job opportunity.
00:27:42I have everything ready.
00:27:44Wait for your turn.
00:27:46I talked to Barrera, López,
00:27:48Día, Conchera, Torre.
00:27:50I talked to everyone.
00:27:52Wait for your turn.
00:27:54You know what else?
00:27:56Go to hell.
00:27:58And I left. I never came back.
00:28:00What?
00:28:02I never came back.
00:28:04You never came back?
00:28:06No.
00:28:08I never came back.
00:28:10That was the decision.
00:28:12It was categorical.
00:28:14You are saying that when you were young
00:28:16you left everything.
00:28:18And you are in your fourth year.
00:28:20I was finishing.
00:28:22I had half an hour to get there.
00:28:24It was the life or death for Martin.
00:28:26But you took the right decision.
00:28:28I think so.
00:28:30Why didn't you start again?
00:28:32Because you and I would have left without a hitch
00:28:34if you were better than me.
00:28:36Let's talk about all that
00:28:38and your career.
00:28:40How was your relationship with your sister?
00:28:42How was your relationship with your sister
00:28:44as a child and as a teenager?
00:28:46It was a good relationship.
00:28:48Six years of difference.
00:28:50Much closer than my brother.
00:28:52Yes?
00:28:54Yes.
00:28:56She didn't distance us.
00:28:58I love her a lot.
00:29:00I respect her opinion.
00:29:02She is a psychologist.
00:29:04I value her a lot.
00:29:06How are you?
00:29:08I want to thank you for all your love
00:29:10as an older brother.
00:29:12For all your care.
00:29:14And for all the money you gave me
00:29:16when I was young.
00:29:18Selling your photos.
00:29:20Selling cajuines too.
00:29:22That I put together with my classmates.
00:29:24But they were all lies.
00:29:26But they paid me for that.
00:29:28So thank you very much.
00:29:30A kiss. I love you a lot.
00:29:32And keep having a good time with Martin.
00:29:34Goodbye.
00:29:36She sold them.
00:29:38To the family.
00:29:40Because your sister was young
00:29:42and you were young.
00:29:44I went to her school.
00:29:46And she sold your photos?
00:29:48She sold my photos.
00:29:50Now I just found out.
00:29:52Did you do business with her brother?
00:29:54No, I had a good relationship with her.
00:29:56She was a beautiful person.
00:29:58What's wrong with this song?
00:30:04When you feel like
00:30:08a man who loves you
00:30:12feel the truth
00:30:16My grandmother.
00:30:18My beautiful grandmother.
00:30:20Marina.
00:30:22She surely loved Puma Rodríguez.
00:30:24He was always her platonic love.
00:30:26And I sang Puma songs
00:30:28in the family.
00:30:30And she had her rigor.
00:30:32When I got on the bus
00:30:34she said, get on José Luis Rodríguez.
00:30:36So I got on.
00:30:38Get on José Luis Rodríguez.
00:30:40And it was Puma.
00:30:42So I sang a lot of songs.
00:30:44That's how I started singing.
00:30:46Thanks to my grandmother.
00:30:48Those who have known you since childhood
00:30:50are your friends and look what they tell you.
00:30:52Well, we met Daniel in the 90s.
00:30:54I was arriving in Santiago
00:30:56from the region.
00:30:58And we met around sports.
00:31:00We met playing soccer
00:31:02outside our houses.
00:31:04We were neighbors. We lived almost in front of each other.
00:31:06And we played soccer
00:31:08because neither of us had keys
00:31:10to enter the house and we had to wait
00:31:12for a relative to arrive
00:31:14to open the door for us.
00:31:16There were always more friends.
00:31:18Talented from an early age.
00:31:20He liked to sing a lot.
00:31:22I love you a lot.
00:31:24You are a great person.
00:31:26You have a tremendous heart.
00:31:28I want you to tell everyone
00:31:30and I want to wish you the best from now on.
00:31:32I send you a big hug.
00:31:34Love for the girls, for your family
00:31:36and for everyone around you.
00:31:38A black hug.
00:31:40Hello dear friend!
00:31:42How many years together!
00:31:44Since high school.
00:31:46I've been lucky to have you as a friend.
00:31:48To accompany your career.
00:31:50A successful career that many times
00:31:52you don't even recognize.
00:31:54But having been in the best programs
00:31:56on television, on the radio,
00:31:58hosting important events.
00:32:00You have always left me satisfied
00:32:02for all that path of success
00:32:04that you have been building.
00:32:06I wish you the best of success
00:32:08but I want you to tell us
00:32:10why you made us call
00:32:12the Casi Casi.
00:32:14This bandit!
00:32:16I have to thank David,
00:32:18Alito, Alito friend from the neighborhood.
00:32:20Andres who is not here
00:32:22but they are also great friends.
00:32:24We used to play on the street.
00:32:26Auto, boli, all those things.
00:32:28And David too,
00:32:30one of the few friends
00:32:32from school that I have told you.
00:32:34And the Casi Casi yes,
00:32:36because we were in that one
00:32:38that we jumped from the fence.
00:32:40And something always happened that we didn't.
00:32:42Casi Casi!
00:32:44We arrived to Algarrobo,
00:32:46we were on vacation.
00:32:48How was it?
00:32:50Casi Casi!
00:32:52And what happened next?
00:32:54Didn't you go to L.A.
00:32:56when you were a teenager?
00:32:58No, I woke up late,
00:33:00I really woke up late.
00:33:02I woke up late in that,
00:33:04for the same reason,
00:33:06because of shyness,
00:33:08because I was very introvert.
00:33:10So your important trip
00:33:12was finally with La Paloma?
00:33:14The longest and most important,
00:33:16yes, of course.
00:33:18So you went to L.A.
00:33:20I remember when we were working together,
00:33:22and I said it there,
00:33:24and I remember
00:33:26that we were young extras,
00:33:28and this group of four animators was formed,
00:33:30we were all, I was the oldest,
00:33:32yes, but we were next to each other,
00:33:34but we were next to each other,
00:33:36and then Rayén and La Paloma were younger,
00:33:38so it was Rayén, La Paloma, you and me.
00:33:40And you, well, you were always well dressed,
00:33:42good to go out,
00:33:44I'm saying it with words like a gentleman.
00:33:46No, man, I was a year naked, let's say.
00:33:48Yes, yes.
00:33:52Yes, yes.
00:33:54Well, we were all single,
00:33:56we were amazing,
00:33:58and suddenly, I remember,
00:34:00I don't forget that day,
00:34:02we were talking and I said,
00:34:04hey, I want to tell you something,
00:34:06I don't know if you told me,
00:34:08I'm going out with La Paloma.
00:34:10And I remember saying, what?
00:34:12But you are there,
00:34:14in what minute did you fall in love?
00:34:16Well, you did fall in love.
00:34:18Well, I didn't calm down at all.
00:34:20And it was very funny, I'll tell you the story.
00:34:22For the first time.
00:34:24In the end,
00:34:26I really liked it,
00:34:28you know, I was calm and still.
00:34:30And I really liked it,
00:34:32we were talking,
00:34:34and we stopped and went to the mirror,
00:34:36and she said,
00:34:38I just want to give you a kiss,
00:34:40nothing more than a kiss,
00:34:42you know, like a kiss from you.
00:34:44And I said, no, I don't want that,
00:34:46I want something serious with you.
00:34:48I said, for the first time,
00:34:50I want something serious with you,
00:34:52nothing more than that.
00:34:54And I was playing,
00:34:56I said, what I have presented to you,
00:34:58you have eaten it,
00:35:00in other words.
00:35:02And she said,
00:35:04but that's in the past,
00:35:06what does it matter?
00:35:08I said, I want something serious with you,
00:35:10or nothing.
00:35:12And in 2001,
00:35:14we got married in 2008,
00:35:16in 2007 we got married,
00:35:18there, like 6 or 7 years,
00:35:20we went to live together,
00:35:22long story, beautiful story.
00:35:24So you went to live
00:35:26while you were dating?
00:35:28Yes.
00:35:30And your eldest daughter was born?
00:35:32In 2008.
00:35:34So you had a long relationship,
00:35:366 or 7 years.
00:35:38Unrecognizable,
00:35:40beautiful stage.
00:35:42How do you say that stage,
00:35:44being so young, but at the same time
00:35:46you were living together.
00:35:48Yes, very young too,
00:35:50she started working very young too,
00:35:52she started at 13, 14 years old,
00:35:54a little bit like my daughter,
00:35:56like in London.
00:35:58And very young to make that,
00:36:00well, they are decisions like the heart,
00:36:02and it is a heart like,
00:36:04like young, like impetuous.
00:36:06And there the story started,
00:36:08of course, very young.
00:36:10Your eldest daughter was born,
00:36:12who is Eloisa,
00:36:14then she was born in London.
00:36:16And how long were you married
00:36:18to Paloma, or in total?
00:36:20I don't remember, 12 years,
00:36:2212 years, 13, I don't know.
00:36:24A lot of time.
00:36:26And,
00:36:28how long has it been since you separated?
00:36:309 or 10 years, more or less,
00:36:329 years and a half.
00:36:34A lot of time has passed.
00:36:36A lot of time, yes, a lot of time.
00:36:38It is a process,
00:36:40ultra chewed and ultra,
00:36:42I imagine, conversed.
00:36:44Yes, internally, yes, clearly.
00:36:46Yes, chewed,
00:36:48with a lot of contention,
00:36:50with a lot of learning,
00:36:52with a lot of affection,
00:36:54a lot of love, a lot of forgiveness.
00:36:56Beautiful, beautiful stage today.
00:36:58But a lot of obvious,
00:37:00in terms of media.
00:37:02Because before, I don't know,
00:37:04I don't think it was the moment,
00:37:06and it wasn't very delicate either.
00:37:08And the prudence too,
00:37:10with which you always addressed the subject,
00:37:12or you called me,
00:37:14we talked for a minute,
00:37:16but the media support,
00:37:18I swear it was one of the things
00:37:20that I hated with my being
00:37:22to be publicly exposed,
00:37:24because of course, finally,
00:37:26the reading that people do is easy,
00:37:28they pass you by talking,
00:37:30and I decided to speak
00:37:32after so many things they said.
00:37:34But in a year I changed the car four times,
00:37:36to start my life,
00:37:38they waited for me on the radio,
00:37:40they waited for me in the apartment,
00:37:42they waited for me at the girls' school,
00:37:44to me, it was really,
00:37:46how was the scandal at that time?
00:37:48It was going crazy,
00:37:50I didn't understand anything,
00:37:52the persecutions,
00:37:54it was an unusual thing.
00:37:56I remember a minute
00:37:58of the harassment and the questions,
00:38:00the kind of questions,
00:38:02the way to approach you,
00:38:04I was on the radio Corazón at that time,
00:38:06I went out,
00:38:08full of journalists asking,
00:38:10for 24 months,
00:38:12I turned around and vomited,
00:38:14I swear it was disgusting,
00:38:16I swear that the media support
00:38:18was one of the hardest things
00:38:20I had ever done in my life,
00:38:22to have stayed in the small theater compartment,
00:38:24to have stayed in that,
00:38:26because it was very hard.
00:38:28Now that so many years have passed,
00:38:30explain to me the process,
00:38:32you are married,
00:38:34did you have a good marriage or a bad marriage?
00:38:36Or a marriage that is disconnected?
00:38:38Yes, a disconnected marriage,
00:38:40many things happen to them,
00:38:42a disconnected marriage,
00:38:44with a lot of love that remains to this day,
00:38:46infinite and eternal,
00:38:48very hard, indestructible,
00:38:50but as a couple,
00:38:52disconnected and dead.
00:38:54We were so young,
00:38:56different sides,
00:38:58each one will have his own version
00:39:00of the life of each one.
00:39:02In your case, that's what I observed.
00:39:04Yes, and I wasn't such a good couple
00:39:06in the last years,
00:39:08I didn't make it,
00:39:10In what sense didn't you make it?
00:39:12Explain a little.
00:39:14I wasn't such a good couple
00:39:16in the sense of,
00:39:18what therapy,
00:39:20what options to fight,
00:39:22what I had to do,
00:39:24because it has to do with my essence,
00:39:26I feel much better today,
00:39:28just that it's hard for me to be in a relationship,
00:39:30and it's been a long process,
00:39:32but it has been.
00:39:34Do you think your personality
00:39:36didn't help?
00:39:38No, it clearly didn't help.
00:39:40And how did you find out
00:39:42that Paloma was with your brother?
00:39:44Just like that,
00:39:46I found out,
00:39:48I was on a TV show,
00:39:50and I saw comments
00:39:52from the press,
00:39:54not from the press,
00:39:56but from the show,
00:39:58that there was going to be such a note,
00:40:00I said, what?
00:40:02This note is going to come out with such a thing?
00:40:04I said, are you crazy?
00:40:06We put up with it for two weeks,
00:40:08until it made a noise,
00:40:10I said, is this true?
00:40:12And then everything exploded,
00:40:14and I found out.
00:40:16So you get home every day
00:40:18But of course,
00:40:20it was like a brushstroke,
00:40:22I was so disconnected,
00:40:24that when the moment came,
00:40:26I said, this is going to be on the show,
00:40:28but who are you?
00:40:30And that's when I understood,
00:40:32that's when we talked,
00:40:34and that's why I say,
00:40:36the facts have already happened,
00:40:38it was the decision.
00:40:40And how was that conversation?
00:40:42At first,
00:40:44it's like,
00:40:46I don't know how to put it,
00:40:48but it's like, it's difficult.
00:40:50Let's see,
00:40:52if I'm honest with you,
00:40:54it wasn't a surprise that it could happen
00:40:56with her,
00:40:58with the relationship we had,
00:41:00how weak we were, you know?
00:41:02The protagonist in question
00:41:04was how difficult to understand.
00:41:06Of course, in the end,
00:41:08what you're telling me is that she,
00:41:10or you, in this case,
00:41:12could perfectly look at another person,
00:41:14because you were working,
00:41:16you were disconnected and everything.
00:41:18It could be, for many couples,
00:41:20it could be that something similar
00:41:22had happened.
00:41:24But of course,
00:41:26it was the other part,
00:41:28and there the conversation
00:41:30was more painful,
00:41:32more time,
00:41:34with more distance.
00:41:36Was it painful, on the one hand,
00:41:38to live all this as a family,
00:41:40but on top of that exposed?
00:41:42Talking to my dad, you know?
00:41:44Trying not to get there,
00:41:46because I was still a teenager
00:41:48at that time.
00:41:50And I think that was
00:41:52the initial conversation.
00:41:54Let's make an effort
00:41:56so that this shit doesn't come out.
00:41:58First of all.
00:42:00Because it's more painful,
00:42:02harder, and then it was
00:42:04ungovernable.
00:42:06Unmanageable?
00:42:08Yes, of course, it couldn't be.
00:42:10Explain the process to me,
00:42:12because deep down,
00:42:14I think that you,
00:42:16regardless of the media,
00:42:18you were indeed cautious
00:42:20and prudent in how to
00:42:22fix things little by little.
00:42:24It was cold, yes.
00:42:26You can't fix anything in the heat.
00:42:28We agree.
00:42:30Did you separate immediately?
00:42:32Yes.
00:42:34That day, no, that week.
00:42:36Did you go home?
00:42:38Did you look for an opportunity
00:42:40to fix things?
00:42:42No.
00:42:44And also because of the condition
00:42:46we were in for a long time.
00:42:48And you didn't talk to your brother?
00:42:50Not for a long time.
00:42:52How long?
00:42:54Two weeks.
00:42:56When he was already living
00:42:58in a place, I went.
00:43:00We did that process.
00:43:02Explain to me, without telling me
00:43:04what you talked about,
00:43:06and that's why I asked you at the beginning,
00:43:08not only with a brother,
00:43:10but with a person you lived
00:43:12with all your life, in the same room.
00:43:14I am a witness
00:43:16that you and your brother
00:43:18had a wonderful relationship,
00:43:20very close,
00:43:22and this happens,
00:43:24that today everyone knows
00:43:26what their responsibilities are,
00:43:28but it's not up to you to judge.
00:43:30But how do you have a conversation
00:43:32like this?
00:43:34With pain first,
00:43:36and with...
00:43:40I don't know how to tell you a secret.
00:43:42I think what I felt,
00:43:44I said it,
00:43:46my sister accompanied me.
00:43:48I remember my sister,
00:43:50she wanted to accompany me,
00:43:52to be there.
00:43:54The three of us, silent,
00:43:56silent, witness,
00:43:58I don't want to go into details,
00:44:00but I talked to him
00:44:02without understanding
00:44:04or reason or anything,
00:44:06there was a disconnection too,
00:44:08we never reached a point,
00:44:10and no, there is time,
00:44:12but it was necessary.
00:44:14And from there,
00:44:16after that conversation,
00:44:18how long has it been
00:44:20since you met your brother
00:44:22and Paloma again?
00:44:24Chronologically, I'm kind of lost,
00:44:26but for a long time,
00:44:28I don't know if years, less, yes.
00:44:30And your father?
00:44:32It was also a process,
00:44:34with many disputes,
00:44:36controversies,
00:44:38anger and everything,
00:44:40mixed emotions,
00:44:42and I wouldn't know
00:44:44how long to tell you,
00:44:46but a time that is necessary,
00:44:48a time that heals.
00:44:50Yes.
00:44:52I thank you for being
00:44:54the way you were.
00:44:56Why?
00:44:58What a beautiful family relationship.
00:45:00I hope you tell me now
00:45:02how that came about,
00:45:04but for your parents,
00:45:06how do you think it was?
00:45:08Because your father finally,
00:45:10I mean, a family balance breaks,
00:45:12a family breaks,
00:45:14and on the other hand,
00:45:16you have a son who is suffering,
00:45:18you have another son
00:45:20who is also suffering,
00:45:22from another place.
00:45:24Everything, in the end,
00:45:26And what,
00:45:28what place did your parents take?
00:45:30What position did your parents take?
00:45:32I mean,
00:45:34a lot of contention with me,
00:45:36me with them too.
00:45:38I mean, I was more concerned
00:45:40with having Payaque,
00:45:42a lot of contention, a lot of anger.
00:45:44What they manifest,
00:45:46or what they manifest to me,
00:45:48I think they,
00:45:50internally, they finally know
00:45:52what happened to them,
00:45:54I feel a lot of pain,
00:45:56and time,
00:45:58I couldn't tell you
00:46:00what they did,
00:46:02I saw them in trouble,
00:46:04obviously,
00:46:06and it took a lot of time
00:46:08to heal and rebuild.
00:46:10More than me, I would tell you.
00:46:12What do you mean?
00:46:14It took them more time than me.
00:46:16I mean, I,
00:46:18I've always been like,
00:46:20and I don't regret it,
00:46:22I've always been like,
00:46:24like,
00:46:26a builder of good emotions,
00:46:28of healthy relationships,
00:46:30that nothing is so serious.
00:46:32I admit that to my daughter.
00:46:34Nothing is so serious.
00:46:36There were some very serious things,
00:46:38but I don't care where,
00:46:40nothing is so serious.
00:46:42Let's move on.
00:46:44You tried to turn the page as soon as possible.
00:46:46Yes, yes, yes.
00:46:48But did you go to therapy?
00:46:50I didn't feel like I needed it,
00:46:52because I didn't know
00:46:54what was going on with me,
00:46:56I was cold.
00:46:58Lately I've been going to therapy,
00:47:00now that I need it.
00:47:02And it has to do with,
00:47:04now I'm understanding,
00:47:06I'm tying knots and I'm understanding.
00:47:08When my last job
00:47:10ended, post-pandemic,
00:47:12which was Radio Candela,
00:47:14I had a good salary,
00:47:16I had peace of mind,
00:47:18I was emotional, I was happy.
00:47:20The radio ended,
00:47:22and I went to the ground.
00:47:24I think that's where all the ghosts came.
00:47:26Imagine, in a pandemic,
00:47:28I was there,
00:47:30I was left without a radio,
00:47:32there came the ghosts.
00:47:34There, as in the song,
00:47:36I had 1% left,
00:47:38I was on the ground,
00:47:40there came all the ghosts,
00:47:42more economically,
00:47:44alone.
00:47:46And I said,
00:47:48I need someone to help me,
00:47:50I can't do it alone.
00:47:52And I looked for help.
00:47:54I go back to the story,
00:47:56what is the worst moment
00:47:58for you,
00:48:00when you're at the break
00:48:02with Paloma and your brother?
00:48:04What is the worst moment for you?
00:48:06Well, the emotional one,
00:48:08clearly, that happened to me
00:48:10today,
00:48:12and that are the costs
00:48:14of my decision in her acts,
00:48:16in her ways,
00:48:18to disassociate myself from my daughter,
00:48:20in everyday life.
00:48:22That has cost me a lot.
00:48:24I see her on weekends,
00:48:26or in the week, regularly,
00:48:28some day,
00:48:30but not being in everyday life with her
00:48:32hurts a lot.
00:48:34Elo told me,
00:48:36I want to live with you
00:48:38before I turn 18,
00:48:40to have the chance to be with you,
00:48:42and the girls,
00:48:44less.
00:48:46And now,
00:48:48if you ask them today,
00:48:50today I'm focused on that,
00:48:52on trying to
00:48:54stabilize myself,
00:48:56because it's necessary,
00:48:58in economic terms,
00:49:00to be able to live with her,
00:49:02finally.
00:49:04I'm very grateful for the life
00:49:06that my mom gives them,
00:49:08which is wonderful,
00:49:10but it's a situation
00:49:12in which it's the most painful moment,
00:49:14to detach yourself, in some way,
00:49:16from the daily bond with your son,
00:49:18I think it's the most painful.
00:49:20And when does
00:49:22the relationship with Paloma
00:49:24and your brother begin to rebuild?
00:49:28There are moments,
00:49:30there are things that are
00:49:34genuinely forced,
00:49:36but also beautiful,
00:49:38that finally
00:49:40those who come,
00:49:42the little ones,
00:49:44they have to have a certain harmony,
00:49:46a certain tranquility,
00:49:48go on the happiest trips,
00:49:50participate in birthdays,
00:49:54a healthy coexistence.
00:49:56And I ask you a question,
00:49:58I'm going to ask it from the heart.
00:50:00Do you think you have,
00:50:02or did you have the same relationship
00:50:04with your brother again, or not anymore?
00:50:06No.
00:50:08No, I would lie to you.
00:50:10I would lie to you if I told you yes or no.
00:50:12No, but I respect him a lot,
00:50:14I love him,
00:50:16there are stories and everything,
00:50:18but no, no, no, I don't know.
00:50:20It's not like that, who knows, in time.
00:50:22But we are sufficiently
00:50:24wise, great,
00:50:26loving and affectionate,
00:50:28the two of us to have a good relationship,
00:50:30loving each other a lot,
00:50:32but I don't know,
00:50:34I don't know, how can I tell you,
00:50:38I don't know if it's unlimited,
00:50:40the yikes of each one,
00:50:42there are things that I don't share with him,
00:50:44clearly.
00:50:46Obviously.
00:50:50But there is a healthy coexistence,
00:50:52which is a beautiful thing.
00:50:54And how do you get along with Paloma today?
00:50:56Well, with her it has been much easier,
00:50:58because there is a debt,
00:51:00there is justice, you know?
00:51:02Good, good.
00:51:04In what sense?
00:51:06Because I love her a lot,
00:51:08I love her a lot,
00:51:10I respect her as a mother tremendously,
00:51:12a tremendous mother, worried,
00:51:14pending,
00:51:16present.
00:51:18So I don't have,
00:51:20I understand a little
00:51:22the things of a couple that can have problems,
00:51:24I understand that,
00:51:26I understand it because it happens to me too,
00:51:28you know?
00:51:30I don't condemn that so much,
00:51:32yes, the role of a mother,
00:51:34of being present, pending, working,
00:51:38I love Paloma so much,
00:51:40because she is a good person too,
00:51:42because of her tenderness,
00:51:44so from there I understand it,
00:51:46and the other thing is not that I justify it,
00:51:48but that's it,
00:51:50we all have things.
00:51:52And today they live with
00:51:54the two children,
00:51:56that is, the daughter and son
00:51:58of Paloma with your brother?
00:52:00Yes.
00:52:02The four of them met?
00:52:04Wonderful, when the radio ended,
00:52:06when I was left with nothing,
00:52:08and usually they knew,
00:52:10they went through the networks,
00:52:12the radio, they knew things,
00:52:14and they saw that I had no activity,
00:52:16and I didn't know how to tell them,
00:52:18you know?
00:52:20How did this entertaining,
00:52:22happy father-in-law,
00:52:24who was left with nothing,
00:52:26tell you?
00:52:32How are you today with Paloma?
00:52:34Good, with her it has been much better,
00:52:36because there is a debt,
00:52:38there is an injustice,
00:52:40you know?
00:52:42Good.
00:52:44In what sense?
00:52:46Because I love her a lot,
00:52:48I love her a lot,
00:52:50I respect her as a mother tremendously,
00:52:52a tremendous mother,
00:52:54pending,
00:52:56present,
00:52:58so I don't have,
00:53:00I understand a little
00:53:02the things of a couple that can have problems,
00:53:04I understand that,
00:53:06because it happens to me too,
00:53:08you know?
00:53:10So I don't condemn that so much,
00:53:12yes, the role of a mother,
00:53:14of being present, pending,
00:53:16hard worker,
00:53:18I love Paloma more or less
00:53:20because she is a good person too,
00:53:22from there I understand it,
00:53:24and the other thing is not that I justify it,
00:53:26but that's it,
00:53:28we all have things.
00:53:30And your daughters,
00:53:32how have you seen them
00:53:34in this whole process?
00:53:36They are angels,
00:53:38angels that make
00:53:40life easy for us,
00:53:42they make life happy for us,
00:53:44that's why it's my bet
00:53:46and the bet of all of us
00:53:48who contributed for harmony
00:53:50was beautiful,
00:53:52because you see them healthy,
00:53:54you see them happy,
00:53:56you see them living, enjoying,
00:53:58aware,
00:54:00which is important,
00:54:02aware of their reality,
00:54:04but happy,
00:54:06I mean, you've never seen money in your head,
00:54:08you've never seen hysteria,
00:54:10and that makes me very happy,
00:54:12I mean,
00:54:14it's the reconstruction
00:54:16and it's a very good hit,
00:54:18I think it's a very good hit of all,
00:54:20and the result of that
00:54:22is how happy
00:54:24we can see them all.
00:54:26Today they live with
00:54:28the two sons,
00:54:30the daughter and the son
00:54:32of Paloma with your brother.
00:54:34Yes.
00:54:36Wonderful, I love him too,
00:54:38Abril, my favorite Virgo,
00:54:40José María and Don Exquisito,
00:54:42I travel with Abril
00:54:44a lot too,
00:54:46and it's rich,
00:54:48you know, it finally has
00:54:50its reward, all that.
00:54:52Did it take you a long time
00:54:54to fall in love again?
00:54:56If we understand
00:54:58to fall in love, I know what it is,
00:55:00because I know
00:55:02that I am...
00:55:04Did you go out to the field to shoot?
00:55:06Yes, no, after a while.
00:55:08How long did it take?
00:55:10I needed to be single,
00:55:12I mean, I wanted to be,
00:55:14I went to school,
00:55:16so I felt...
00:55:18Don't laugh, it's true,
00:55:20you know me,
00:55:22so I went out,
00:55:24I was free,
00:55:26I felt very good,
00:55:28I was single for a year and a half,
00:55:30and then I packed very quickly,
00:55:32I packed very quickly,
00:55:34imagine,
00:55:3635 years apart,
00:55:38and Camila was 23,
00:55:40at that point I said,
00:55:42I'm going to live,
00:55:44I went to live.
00:55:46Explain to me that process, please.
00:55:48How can I explain it to you if I don't have an explanation?
00:55:50I fell in love,
00:55:52I didn't go crazy,
00:55:54we had fun,
00:55:56we traveled,
00:55:58I went to live.
00:56:00At 3 months?
00:56:02At 3 months, 4 months.
00:56:04But why?
00:56:06I don't know, no one explained it to me,
00:56:08I packed, packed, packed,
00:56:10oh God,
00:56:12it happens to me,
00:56:14and I was free again.
00:56:16No, it's wrong.
00:56:18So you're like the one who flees, in quotes.
00:56:20Yes, bad.
00:56:22How long did you live with Camila?
00:56:24A year and a half,
00:56:26I mean, I lived less than a year and a half,
00:56:28but the relationship was like a year and a half,
00:56:30a wonderful relationship,
00:56:32we got along until today,
00:56:34and we get along fantastic.
00:56:36After a year and a half,
00:56:38fantastic,
00:56:40I packed again,
00:56:423 months living again.
00:56:44Yes.
00:56:46Well, do you want me to be honest?
00:56:48Yes.
00:56:50Second administration,
00:56:52furniture change, furniture change.
00:56:54The same house?
00:56:56The same house, furniture change.
00:56:58But in the end, you set up a project with Camila,
00:57:00it didn't work.
00:57:02It didn't work.
00:57:04In your house.
00:57:06So you set up a project with Camila,
00:57:083 months,
00:57:10in your house,
00:57:12changing the furniture and everything.
00:57:14And how long did you live with Camila?
00:57:16Like a year and a half too.
00:57:18Why are you laughing?
00:57:20I'm going to eat a piece of cheese.
00:57:22But it's not good,
00:57:24if I say it's good, it's not.
00:57:26No, I'm not saying it's bad.
00:57:28It's not good because it's not good.
00:57:30A piece of cheese.
00:57:32How do I explain it?
00:57:34It's not good.
00:57:36Yes, it is.
00:57:38I have a beautiful relationship,
00:57:40I love Camila, Camila too,
00:57:42I don't have any problem.
00:57:44I learned that,
00:57:46I don't get involved so much,
00:57:48I don't get involved,
00:57:50I have my big dream,
00:57:52my big pillar,
00:57:54understanding, therapy,
00:57:56before I grow up,
00:57:58I want to be able to live with my daughter.
00:58:00That's your dream?
00:58:02I don't know if it's relevant,
00:58:04I don't know if it's relevant,
00:58:06but it's not so feasible.
00:58:08I'm going to give time to a couple,
00:58:10it's not fair.
00:58:12My efforts are in vain.
00:58:14I think it's a wonderful dream.
00:58:16I met her in London,
00:58:18I saw her on TV,
00:58:20but I'm going to invite her to talk,
00:58:22but look at this.
00:58:24Hi dad, how are you?
00:58:26First of all,
00:58:28I would love to be there with you now.
00:58:30But I can't,
00:58:32I have a lot of things to do.
00:58:34I want to tell you that I love you a lot,
00:58:36and that you are an excellent dad.
00:58:38I admire you a lot.
00:58:40In fact, all my friends who know you
00:58:42believe that you are a very good dad,
00:58:44and that you love us a lot,
00:58:46me and my sister,
00:58:48and thank you for everything you do for us every day.
00:58:50I want to tell you that if you ever believe,
00:58:52or you believed,
00:58:54that I am very distant,
00:58:56or that I don't see you much,
00:58:58that I love you,
00:59:00and that I will always be there for you,
00:59:02for anything you need.
00:59:06That's beautiful.
00:59:10I swear, I've never cried on TV.
00:59:12I've never cried on TV.
00:59:14Show me some images where I cried.
00:59:16But they vote for me.
00:59:18With Elo, something very special happens.
00:59:20With Elo, it's the sweetness itself.
00:59:22He has won awards
00:59:24for best classmate many times.
00:59:26It's a sweet,
00:59:28it makes life easy for him.
00:59:30And I had such a nice conversation with her.
00:59:32Once I was on the floor,
00:59:34when the radio ended,
00:59:36when I was left with nothing,
00:59:38and usually they knew
00:59:40because of the networks, the radio,
00:59:42and they saw that I had no activity.
00:59:44And I didn't know how to tell them,
00:59:46how this entertaining, happy dad,
00:59:48who was left with nothing,
00:59:50that I felt, how to tell them.
00:59:52And once I did, I took her to the beach.
00:59:54And it's the most beautiful conversation
00:59:56I've had in my life with someone.
00:59:58I took her hand, we went walking
01:00:00to the beach, and I said,
01:00:02honey, dad is going through
01:00:04bad times right now.
01:00:06He's hurt, he's...
01:00:08He's not a superhero,
01:00:10and maybe he doesn't have the same things
01:00:12I want for you, the same moments,
01:00:14the same possibilities.
01:00:16I'm without the radio, I'm without anything.
01:00:18But I said, for you I'm going to get up,
01:00:20for your sister, and do it.
01:00:22And it was a wonderful hug.
01:00:24What she also told me,
01:00:26that it was courage, finally.
01:00:28It was courage to get out of there
01:00:30and start again,
01:00:32to rebuild.
01:00:34It was one of the most beautiful conversations
01:00:36that she, with all her sweetness
01:00:38and all her enthusiasm,
01:00:40that today, at 15,
01:00:42it was one of the most beautiful things
01:00:44I've seen in my life.
01:00:46You noticed that she also knows
01:00:48that sometimes she's not so close,
01:00:50but she's aware of how much she loves you
01:00:52and how much you love her.
01:00:54Yes.
01:00:56They're beautiful people
01:00:58and that's the most important thing.
01:01:00That's the most important thing.
01:01:02I think what you've said
01:01:04is key,
01:01:06and that's the greatest treasure
01:01:08a person can have,
01:01:10their daughters, their children,
01:01:12and the family in general.
01:01:14And I'd like to have that conversation
01:01:16right now.
01:01:18Let's go.
01:01:22Let's go.
01:01:30Well, here we are with the grandparents.
01:01:32What did you call them?
01:01:34Abu and Tata.
01:01:36Why do they call you Abu?
01:01:38Because he's my grandfather.
01:01:40My father says, yes, my love.
01:01:42And Tata?
01:01:44Tata, love.
01:01:46Yes, that's very funny.
01:01:48Why Tata, love?
01:01:50Because when we went to the supermarket
01:01:52with her and I took her in the cart,
01:01:54suddenly the fat guy got lost in the supermarket
01:01:56and I started calling him love.
01:01:58So they thought Tata was called Tata, love.
01:02:00And that's how Tata, love came to be.
01:02:02And everyone calls him Tata, love.
01:02:04Hey, what happened to you, Daniel,
01:02:06when Lalo started acting so little
01:02:08and showed that he had
01:02:10interests and talents for acting?
01:02:12It was very curious.
01:02:14The first commercial Lalo did
01:02:16was two days ago.
01:02:18I don't know if you remember.
01:02:20How two days?
01:02:22Two days after he was born.
01:02:24He was at the clinic, remember?
01:02:26And he told us we were doing something
01:02:28for a brand of diapers he knew.
01:02:30And he said, well, I'll show you the incubator.
01:02:32And he said,
01:02:34come on, Abu.
01:02:36And he did the first commercial
01:02:38in two days.
01:02:40This is still unusual.
01:02:42But it marked his destiny.
01:02:44He kept doing a lot of commercials
01:02:46and at five years old he started
01:02:48in Verdad es Oculta, the long TV series.
01:02:50Now he's 12, it's not over yet.
01:02:52But he started at five years old
01:02:54in the first TV series he did.
01:02:56And it was by chance because we were in Mucho Gusto.
01:02:58We invited Mucho Gusto.
01:03:00And they took advantage and said,
01:03:02hey, are you interested in doing the casting
01:03:04for a camera test? And he did it.
01:03:06And what was your main concern?
01:03:08Because this is not easy, because you have to combine
01:03:10public and private. There are many things.
01:03:12I think that, I don't know, except for her,
01:03:14I don't think we mentioned what was going to happen.
01:03:16A camera test, it was a commercial,
01:03:18a TV series, something minor.
01:03:20But then they asked us, hey,
01:03:22could you take a little flight?
01:03:24We went to see it.
01:03:26There's a TV series called Tranquilo Papá.
01:03:28And we went to see it.
01:03:30And she was having a good time.
01:03:32It's not a topic that complicates her.
01:03:34I understand.
01:03:36Don't you get stressed? Do you enjoy it?
01:03:38And you, as grandparents, how has the process been?
01:03:40Nice.
01:03:42Well, we have...
01:03:44I have personally accompanied her on several occasions
01:03:46and I have taken her to record.
01:03:48I know Danielo asks me, Palito asks me,
01:03:50his aunt asks me to accompany her.
01:03:52His other grandmother too.
01:03:54The candle, which they call her candle.
01:03:56We are also tuning in.
01:03:58The idea is that she is always accompanied.
01:04:00I have images here.
01:04:02For the first time, I can show images of the daughter
01:04:04and not the protagonist.
01:04:06But I can read.
01:04:08Show something.
01:04:10Show something.
01:04:14Let's see.
01:04:16You can't talk to your mom like that.
01:04:18But why not?
01:04:20Why not?
01:04:22You were fighting with her because she worked
01:04:24with bad people.
01:04:26Look, it's not like that.
01:04:28What do you mean?
01:04:30Dad, I saw your piece of paper that is hidden.
01:04:32There.
01:04:34It has the name of the mother
01:04:36next to all the bad guys.
01:04:42What happens when you look at yourself in the performance?
01:04:44I mean, it's a nice job
01:04:46that belongs to everyone.
01:04:48I feel very good
01:04:50and happy.
01:04:52Show something.
01:04:54Let's see.
01:04:56You can't talk to your mom like that.
01:04:58But why not?
01:05:00Why not?
01:05:02You were fighting with her because she worked
01:05:04with bad people.
01:05:06Look, it's not like that.
01:05:08What do you mean?
01:05:10You were fighting with her
01:05:12because she worked
01:05:14with bad people.
01:05:16Look, it's not like that.
01:05:18What do you mean?
01:05:20Why not?
01:05:22Dad, I saw your piece of paper that is hidden.
01:05:24There.
01:05:26It has the name of the mother
01:05:28next to all the bad guys.
01:05:34What happens when you look at yourself in the performance?
01:05:36I mean, it's a nice job
01:05:38that belongs to everyone.
01:05:42I feel very good
01:05:44and happy.
01:05:46I have a question for you.
01:05:48For example,
01:05:50the actors receive a salary.
01:05:52Do you have the option of...
01:05:54Let's eat, Alondra!
01:06:00Let your dad hear it, please.
01:06:02When you receive your salary,
01:06:04your salary goes to a savings account.
01:06:06You get a percentage.
01:06:10You'll get that money
01:06:12when you're 18.
01:06:14What did you negotiate with your mom and dad?
01:06:16Well, they told me
01:06:18that when I'm 18,
01:06:20they'll give it to me.
01:06:22When I was in the movies,
01:06:24they gave me a little
01:06:26and I could buy things I wanted.
01:06:28Perfect.
01:06:30But most of the money
01:06:32you've earned is in a savings account.
01:06:34Yes.
01:06:36There's still some left.
01:06:38No, it's for the 18-year-olds.
01:06:40Sometimes I wonder
01:06:42why they don't give it to me
01:06:44when I'm 18.
01:06:46That's a good decision.
01:06:48You'll save money
01:06:50and it'll be very important
01:06:52when you're 18.
01:06:54You can study,
01:06:56go abroad,
01:06:58buy something important.
01:07:00You're very organized.
01:07:02That's for her,
01:07:04when she's 18.
01:07:06She's more like her mom than her dad.
01:07:08I showed you pictures
01:07:10and now I'll show you
01:07:12pictures of your dad.
01:07:14I have a sponsor.
01:07:16Me?
01:07:18We have a sponsor.
01:07:20It's called Zappin.
01:07:22Zappin TV.
01:07:24Do you have Zappin?
01:07:26We all have Zappin.
01:07:28We also have Zappin.
01:07:30Here in Papudo we have Zappin.
01:07:32Do you have Zappin?
01:07:34Perfect.
01:07:36You can find more than 130 channels
01:07:38on Zappin.
01:07:40Music, news, sports,
01:07:42series, movies,
01:07:44whatever you want.
01:07:46You can watch it on your TV,
01:07:48cell phone, computer.
01:07:50But the great thing
01:07:52is that for a year
01:07:54Zappin will pay us.
01:07:56I would give it to your parents.
01:07:58Really?
01:08:00For a year Zappin will pay us.
01:08:02Thank you very much.
01:08:06Did you pay for the food?
01:08:08The broken glass,
01:08:10the beer, the barbecue,
01:08:12everything.
01:08:14You can watch it again
01:08:16at any time.
01:08:18How do you know?
01:08:20How do you know?
01:08:22Nigerians are better in time.
01:08:24No, really.
01:08:26When we get to watch a series
01:08:28we wanted to watch, we come back.
01:08:30Don't worry Gorda.
01:08:32We'll watch it.
01:08:34Here I found pictures of your dad.
01:08:36But the truth is
01:08:38that they are encouraging us.
01:08:40Let's see what he had.
01:08:44That's not me.
01:08:46Oh, yes it is.
01:08:58Generous at that time.
01:09:00Generous TV at that time.
01:09:02Another one.
01:09:06No!
01:09:08That's you.
01:09:12Whose song is this?
01:09:14Easy to dance.
01:09:20How beautiful.
01:09:24Oh my God.
01:09:26Why are you imitating?
01:09:28Oh!
01:09:30But it's not an easy song.
01:09:32Yes, I liked it before.
01:09:38That's my dad.
01:09:46How cool.
01:09:50Let's see.
01:09:52Would you give me a score from 1 to 7?
01:09:54The first one,
01:09:5610 because
01:09:58he touched his hair and everything was fine.
01:10:00Child, child.
01:10:02The second one looked good.
01:10:047.
01:10:06And Luis Miguel?
01:10:080.
01:10:12He sang very badly.
01:10:14But 0 the last one.
01:10:16Give me a 1.
01:10:20Now I'm going to show you something
01:10:22to make you laugh.
01:10:24With your dad,
01:10:26your dad had
01:10:28very long and frizzy hair.
01:10:30I was blond.
01:10:32And long hair.
01:10:34We were about 20 years old.
01:10:36We were single.
01:10:38We were stars just like you.
01:10:40Oh, how I love your eyes.
01:10:42We were better than Pailita.
01:10:46We did a youth program
01:10:48called Extra Jóvenes.
01:10:50A program that lasted 17 years
01:10:52on Chilean television.
01:10:54We did a lot with your mom.
01:10:56Let's see.
01:11:00No.
01:11:06But you were with my mom.
01:11:08No.
01:11:10What do you mean?
01:11:12No.
01:11:14Wait, wait.
01:11:16For the women's duo.
01:11:18Let's not let her down anymore.
01:11:20Let's not let her down anymore.
01:11:32Look how angry she is.
01:11:34Look, I'm going to show you.
01:11:36There's the end, of course.
01:11:38There we are.
01:11:40There's your dad.
01:11:42The one up there is Rayan.
01:11:44And there's me and your mom.
01:11:46What do you think?
01:11:48What do you think?
01:11:50Are we better now or worse?
01:11:52Better now.
01:11:54Oh, better now.
01:11:56How did you see Daniel's
01:11:58transition to the media?
01:12:00How did you see it?
01:12:02We saw it a little bit
01:12:04with concern, actually.
01:12:06Because we never imagined
01:12:08that he could like television.
01:12:10Well, he started to study a career
01:12:12that he didn't like.
01:12:14He deserted it.
01:12:16Then he wanted to study another one.
01:12:18He deserted it, too.
01:12:20Oh, he didn't tell me the second one.
01:12:22No, man.
01:12:24And finally,
01:12:26he wanted to study audiovisual communication.
01:12:28But he was mainly
01:12:30a shy person.
01:12:32So, in television,
01:12:34you had to have more...
01:12:36He was shy.
01:12:38But when he was in front of the camera,
01:12:40he was a different person.
01:12:42And I saw Daniel, your dad,
01:12:44when he was singing.
01:12:46And I have the impression
01:12:48that music crosses your lives.
01:12:50You like to sing a lot.
01:12:52Yes.
01:12:54Where does the singing come from?
01:12:56Tell me a little bit.
01:12:58Well, since I was a child.
01:13:00In my case, since I was a child,
01:13:02at school, I was highlighted
01:13:04in the musical part,
01:13:06a teacher, Juan Portillo Olivares.
01:13:08The names were super original,
01:13:10sextet, because there were six of us.
01:13:12So, that's where we started singing.
01:13:14Why did you ask?
01:13:16Because deep down, you also had that love for music.
01:13:18And I think,
01:13:20at least from the memories I have,
01:13:22I've never heard you sing with your dad.
01:13:24No, I haven't sung.
01:13:26Alondra sings.
01:13:28We all sing here.
01:13:30Yes, Alondra also sings.
01:13:32He sings.
01:13:34Well, why don't we...
01:13:36The song you want, but the four of us sing it.
01:13:38Can it be or not?
01:13:40Let's sing it.
01:13:42The four of us.
01:13:44The group would be called Cuarteto.
01:13:46Cuarteto in the Quincho.
01:13:48Cuarteto in the Quincho.
01:13:50But the one you know, Alondra.
01:13:52Those are the ones your dad always sings.
01:13:54He sings one.
01:13:56Or do you want the back?
01:13:58Let's do it.
01:14:00She
01:14:02She
01:14:04She already forgot me
01:14:06I
01:14:08I
01:14:10I remember her now
01:14:12I remember her now
01:14:14She was
01:14:16She was
01:14:18Like spring
01:14:20Like spring
01:14:22Like spring
01:14:24Her darkened hair
01:14:26Her darkened hair
01:14:28Her voice asleep
01:14:30Her voice asleep
01:14:32Her voice asleep
01:14:34And next to the sea the fever
01:14:38That took me to his bowels
01:14:42And we dreamed of children
01:14:46That the beach gave us
01:14:54She
01:14:56She already forgot me
01:14:58I
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01:15:04I can't forget her
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01:15:16I can't forget her
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01:15:20I can't forget her
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