Latinica - Oliver Dragojević
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00:31Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
00:33I am very glad that we are together again.
00:36Tonight we will hang out in Latin under the title
00:40Believe in Love.
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00:56Ladies and gentlemen, Oliver Dragojevic.
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01:02Good evening, welcome.
01:06Tell me, how did you travel?
01:08By plane.
01:09By plane?
01:10Traveling is always the same.
01:12I get up early, and the planes are usually in the morning.
01:15It's a bit tiring.
01:16It's tiring.
01:17People think that you enjoy it,
01:19that you have a lot of money,
01:21that everything goes smoothly,
01:23but they have no idea how many dead people are there.
01:26As far as I know, all those who get up in the morning
01:29at the offices, they are also dead.
01:31They have been in the office since now,
01:33and they get up as early as I do.
01:35It's just that I travel a lot.
01:37And you go to bed much later.
01:39Twelve, normally.
01:41When do you sleep the most?
01:43When do you work?
01:45When I work, then I go to bed at least
01:48at four o'clock in the morning,
01:50about four hours, on average.
01:52There are some new young stars in Croatia,
01:55on the Croatian stage,
01:57to whom their managers assign everything.
01:59They are not allowed to drink,
02:01they are not allowed to smoke,
02:03they are not allowed to go out
02:05under strict contract,
02:07that's why you don't have a manager.
02:09That's why you don't have a manager.
02:11I can't live under such rules.
02:13At night, when there is a good company,
02:15and it's fun,
02:17then really no one can stay there.
02:19You have to empty yourself a bit.
02:21What do you think, is it good
02:23that these young people are put
02:25under that glass bell?
02:27Can they profiteer from it?
02:29Well, it's good that they can
02:31easily endure what they do,
02:33but for a man it's not very good.
02:35It's not good for their morale,
02:37it doesn't matter.
02:39When you want to relax,
02:41I know that in the West
02:43there is a clause, a contract,
02:45that he is not allowed to
02:47smoke so much at night.
02:49That's why they do some incidents
02:51that we don't know yet.
02:53They break a hotel,
02:55they break five cars that day,
02:57who knows.
02:59I wouldn't be in their shoes,
03:01because it's too hard,
03:03I should have been born earlier.
03:05Yes, but in the fact that you
03:07drink, smoke, have fun,
03:09and stay late at night,
03:11you sold a lot of records.
03:13How many?
03:15I don't even know the number
03:17of recorded LP records.
03:19I think there are a few
03:21of children's records,
03:23so I'm not sure.
03:25You mentioned twenty, right?
03:27Yes, twenty, I'm not sure.
03:29I don't know the number
03:31of my ten hits, I know that.
03:33You know that.
03:35Because I always sing those songs.
03:37Yes, but there is one record
03:39that was sold, if I'm not mistaken,
03:41in 700 copies.
03:43The first record?
03:45Yes. Mom and dad bought it.
03:47No, no.
03:49That year, in 1974,
03:51I won the split with Copacabana,
03:53so we immediately thought
03:55to release an LP record.
03:57There was no time for that record,
03:59so the record was sold
04:01in 600 or 700 copies.
04:03There was a song called
04:05Ljubavna.
04:07It was a song that
04:09some young people listen to now.
04:11I almost forgot that song,
04:13but they still listen to it.
04:15We'll come back to that later.
04:17I have a tough question.
04:19Did you ever buy records
04:21at festivals?
04:23I don't know what that is.
04:25I have no idea.
04:27Did you ever buy records?
04:29I don't know.
04:31I've never seen anyone
04:33have a snop card.
04:35You don't know how it works?
04:37I don't know.
04:39It's said that the manager
04:41buys the records
04:43so that he can
04:45make a tour with the singers.
04:47I don't know.
04:49I see that you've been
04:51to Italy a lot lately.
04:53Italy?
04:55Italy attracts you a lot.
04:57Italy is like
04:59a split for me.
05:01I've been listening to Italian music
05:03since I was born.
05:07Italy is close to the Mediterranean.
05:09I like that melos.
05:11I like their clothing.
05:13I like their manners.
05:15I like the Italian design.
05:17I like the Italian cuisine.
05:19What do you think of Eros Romanzotti?
05:21He's a great singer.
05:23He's a true Mediterranean singer.
05:26He managed to enter
05:28the western music scene.
05:30But I think
05:32his main manager
05:34is the most important.
05:36To enter MTV
05:38or Europe
05:40or the world,
05:42you have to invest a lot.
05:44He has a big team.
05:46He's a good singer.
05:48You tried to
05:50break through
05:52the Italian music scene.
05:54Did you sign a contract
05:56to record an album in Italy?
05:58I recorded an album.
06:00It was a small album.
06:02The author told me
06:04that he would place me
06:06as a Croatian singer
06:08in Russia.
06:10I don't know why.
06:12I think they saw their profit.
06:14He told me
06:16that there was no profit.
06:18I saw the album
06:20and I don't know what happened.
06:22He probably released it
06:24for Argentina.
06:26He told me that it was
06:28made in South America.
06:30What do you think?
06:32Is it possible
06:34that a singer
06:36can break through
06:38the Italian market?
06:40It's hard.
06:42There are several attempts
06:44to break through
06:46in Italy.
06:48We can't finance
06:50everything.
06:52It's very hard here.
06:54You have to find a lot of sponsors.
06:56You have to have people
06:58who are very capable.
07:00You have to be honest.
07:02There are singers
07:04who have existed
07:06all their lives.
07:08You have to be popular.
07:10Who were your role models?
07:12In the beginning?
07:14Gianni Morandi.
07:16Then I listened to Conny Francis.
07:18I don't think I should reveal
07:20how much I listen to him.
07:22Conny Francis is a woman
07:24in her 60s.
07:26Then I listened to
07:28The Beatles
07:30from the 60s
07:32to the 80s.
07:34I liked Spencer Davis
07:36and then
07:38Steve Wonder
07:40and Ray Charles.
07:42It's all classic.
07:44I don't have my own role models.
07:46There are people
07:48who are very talented
07:50in music.
07:52When you were a kid,
07:54you didn't have
07:56a role model.
07:58You had a neighbor
08:00who was a butcher.
08:02No.
08:04I said that one day.
08:06We had the same daughter.
08:08We had a desire
08:10to be with her.
08:12She went to the movies
08:14because her father was a butcher.
08:16Because there was meat
08:18every day.
08:20I wanted to be a butcher
08:22when I grew up.
08:24Now we will see
08:26a portrait of you
08:28made by Gordon Stoich.
08:30When he was a kid,
08:32he wanted to be a butcher,
08:34but he was enrolled
08:36in a music school
08:38where he learned
08:40to play the clarinet.
08:42He was a member
08:44of a local band
08:46that later became
08:48the Batala.
08:50He earned money
08:52by singing
08:54and playing
08:56more than his professors.
08:58In 1967,
09:00his friend Denko Runjic
09:02gave him his song
09:04that he performed
09:06at the Split Festival.
09:08Denko was born
09:10in Mexico City.
09:12He spent four and a half years
09:14in the world
09:16earning a lot of money
09:18and even a little more.
09:20He spent his money
09:22on drinking and women.
09:24After his return to the country,
09:26he became a member
09:28of the Dubrovnik Troubadours.
09:30Today, he claims
09:32that he felt bad
09:34as a troubadour.
09:36In 1974, he won
09:38the Split Festival
09:40with Copacabana.
09:42Oliver was still not a star
09:44at the time
09:46because his records were
09:48not selling well.
09:50That's when his good spirit
09:52appeared,
09:54the composer Denko Runjic.
09:56It started like this.
10:00Galeb didn't win,
10:02but he became
10:04a star.
10:06Oliver went from festival
10:08to festival
10:10so that his and Runjic's
10:12songs would reach
10:14the top of the charts.
10:16Oliver became a star,
10:18an anti-star.
10:20He wore big glasses
10:22and when he sang,
10:24his eyes were closed
10:26to the horror
10:28of the photojournalist
10:30who was circling
10:32around him.
10:48According to some sources,
10:50Oliver and Denko sold
10:52over 6 million records.
10:54This tandem was especially
10:56powerful at the end of the 70s.
10:58They remember the times
11:00when they were drunk.
11:17With time, Oliver was able
11:19to avoid performing
11:21at some festivals
11:23and concerts less often.
11:25In the 80s, Oliver released
11:27several anthology albums
11:29and became a star.
11:31Some people think
11:33that Oliver would never
11:35make such a career
11:37as Dalmatian.
11:39In Dalmatia,
11:41Dalmatian singers
11:43enjoy a special status,
11:45some almost messianic
11:47like Mate Kovac.
11:49But Oliver is not only
11:51a Dalmatian star.
11:53Wherever he appears,
11:55he will fill the hall.
11:58When you are far away,
12:00singers and singers
12:02forget you.
12:04When you are in the center,
12:06you get bored.
12:08I am also a Dalmatian
12:10from head to toe.
12:12But I have to tell you
12:14that when I see
12:16the image of a Dalmatian
12:18in Zagreb,
12:20I sometimes get a little
12:22angry.
12:24I don't know
12:26if you get angry.
12:28No, I don't.
12:30I love it so much
12:32that I can't get angry.
12:34It's killing me.
12:36That's great.
12:38I would like to know
12:40if you are a Dalmatian
12:42or a Belarussian.
12:44I was born in Split.
12:46I live in Split.
12:48I am a Belarussian
12:50by mother and father.
12:52Belarussian in Split.
12:54Have you ever had
12:56an incident
12:58between Zagreb and Split?
13:00No.
13:02Have you ever had
13:04any rude words?
13:06Never.
13:08I have never had
13:10such problems.
13:12A lot of Dalmatians
13:14come to the concert in Zagreb.
13:16A lot of Zagrebians
13:18come to the concert.
13:20When I sing,
13:22they don't talk about
13:24their problems.
13:26They just sing.
13:28I close my eyes
13:30and don't look at them.
13:32I enjoy what I do.
13:34It's nice to be a Dalmatian
13:36in Zagreb.
13:38Yes.
13:40Have you ever had
13:42an incident
13:44during a concert?
13:46No.
13:48I don't remember.
13:50I never had a fight
13:52during a concert.
13:54I never had a provocation.
13:56I didn't have to talk.
13:58I just justified myself
14:00in front of the audience.
14:02That's very interesting.
14:04How do you experience
14:06Vela Luka?
14:08I remember the pictures
14:10from my childhood.
14:12I remember the summer
14:14with my friends
14:16from Vela Luka.
14:18It's always nice
14:20to come to Vela Luka.
14:22I refresh my memory
14:24every summer.
14:26I remember Vela Luka
14:28by the old boats
14:30from Split.
14:32They took tourists
14:34to Vela Luka.
14:36I remember
14:38when I was 10 years old
14:40I went to the serenade
14:42with the old people.
14:44We sang in front of the window
14:46and I didn't drink.
14:48I was with the old people.
14:50I didn't clean the picture
14:52of Vela Luka.
14:54It's an urban environment.
14:56It has changed a bit.
14:58There are no tourists.
15:00It's like you're back
15:02to the old times.
15:04What kind of people
15:06are the people from Vela Luka?
15:08Why do they live?
15:10They are hard workers.
15:12They work a lot.
15:14Those who don't work
15:16drink a lot.
15:18I know that
15:20because Vela Luka has
15:22a lot of pubs.
15:24They have music,
15:26children's choirs,
15:28folklore.
15:30Where do people
15:32come from?
15:34They love each other.
15:36They respect each other.
15:38They go out
15:40to fish.
15:42They have fun and drink.
15:44It seems to me
15:46that they have more sense
15:48for art than others.
15:50You live in Split.
15:52You see the way of life
15:54here in Zagreb.
15:56When you compare it
15:58to Vela Luka,
16:00which one do you like more?
16:02You don't have to ask me.
16:04I rest there.
16:06I know all the people
16:08who live in Diaspora.
16:10It's fantastic.
16:12Everyone comes here to rest.
16:14But when you work there,
16:16you don't have to rest.
16:18I rest in Vela Luka.
16:20It's fantastic.
16:22You can relax there.
16:24You don't have to worry
16:26about your family.
16:28You said you would sing
16:30at least for 30 years.
16:32I didn't promise.
16:34I don't even know
16:36when I started.
16:38Do you plan to go
16:40to a small island?
16:42No, no.
16:44Vela Luka.
16:46There are a lot of islands there.
16:48There is Brodic.
16:50What will you do there?
16:52I don't know if I will work there.
16:54It seems to me
16:56that it would be
16:58according to a family law.
17:00When my father retired,
17:02he went around Maslina,
17:04around Vino Velodzina.
17:06I don't know what to expect.
17:08I'm not a worker.
17:10But it will be fun.
17:12Your father was
17:14a ship's pilot.
17:16That's right.
17:18Do we have to explain it to people?
17:20A ship's pilot is a man
17:22who makes sure
17:24that some ships are parked correctly,
17:26that the passengers are in order,
17:28that he takes care of the passengers.
17:30You have a yacht called Marko.
17:32It's quite big.
17:34It's not a yacht.
17:36It's a ship.
17:38It's a bit faster.
17:40I want to go everywhere.
17:42It's impossible, but I want to.
17:44You get enough rest
17:46during the summer.
17:48Then you go there
17:50and you're not there anymore.
17:52When the children finish school,
17:54I go to Vela Luka.
17:56It lasts until the beginning
17:58of the school year.
18:00So if someone wants to
18:02go to Vela Luka,
18:04I let him go.
18:06I can't do too much with my beard.
18:08I have to wash myself.
18:10I don't use
18:12soap and soap.
18:14Let's go back
18:16to your childhood.
18:18You were a good singer
18:20as a kid,
18:22so they took you
18:24to sing in some people's houses.
18:26I was shown as a rarity.
18:28My brother also sang.
18:30I was in the first place.
18:34My father was a great singer.
18:36My mother has an ear.
18:38My aunt was a barber.
18:40Everyone in Zagreb
18:42was a barber.
18:44My grandfather was an Australian.
18:46He played the clarinet.
18:48That's a tradition.
18:50There are a lot of people
18:52in Vela Luka who are talented.
18:54I'm one of them.
18:56There are a few
18:58who don't have an ear.
19:00You played harmonica
19:02on a boat
19:04and entertained people.
19:07I was a singer
19:09right away.
19:11But when you went
19:13to a music school,
19:15there were problems.
19:17There were no problems.
19:19I was just a kid.
19:21Instead of practicing the piano,
19:23I went to football games.
19:25That's normal.
19:27When I went to school,
19:29they told me
19:31that it would be better
19:33if I played the clarinet
19:35and not the piano.
19:37I played the clarinet
19:39and that was it.
19:41Which instruments do you play?
19:43I play everything.
19:45Piano, clarinet, guitar,
19:47cello.
19:49I wanted to play the violin,
19:51but I didn't want to.
19:53The piano is my favorite.
19:55Did you go to a music school?
19:57What happened?
19:59I came back from Germany.
20:01I was a first-year student
20:03and I was assigned
20:05a subject.
20:07I think it was
20:09harmonica.
20:11I don't know what it was.
20:13I took the highest grade
20:15and then I quit.
20:17I knew I could do it.
20:19It all worked out
20:21that I had to go and sing.
20:23Did you play in some bands?
20:25Young Battalions?
20:27No, not young.
20:29I played in old Battalions.
20:31Old Battalions are
20:33family-related.
20:35They founded young Battalions
20:37and then they played
20:39much longer than old Battalions.
20:41I'm the first generation
20:43of those Battalions.
20:45You were also in the group
20:47More.
20:49Yes, I played the drums.
20:51You went to Dubrovnik
20:53and played in Dubrovnik Troubadours.
20:55I played in Troubadours
20:57and then in More.
20:59Troubadours were
21:01a part of my life.
21:03Marko Brešković is watching this
21:05and you often say
21:07that it was your big fiasco.
21:09It was a fiasco
21:11because I didn't play
21:13the instrument I play.
21:15I played the guitar
21:17which is not close to my heart.
21:19And the piano was played
21:21by another pianist
21:23in Troubadours.
21:25So it was always
21:27something in between.
21:29That's why I don't need it.
21:31They are great people.
21:33You made a lot of money
21:35in Dubrovnik.
21:37You met your wife there.
21:39Can you tell us
21:41how you met your wife?
21:43I was walking
21:45in Straduna
21:47with my wife.
21:49I was walking
21:51for 7 days
21:53and I told my wife
21:55to introduce me to her.
21:57One day she came
21:59and actually
22:01my wife was sitting
22:03in a gas chamber.
22:05I came to meet her
22:07but I never saw her face.
22:09She told me
22:11that she was walking
22:13in Straduna
22:15and that she was looking at me
22:17but she didn't know
22:19why I was looking at her.
22:21So we met there
22:23and I saw her face.
22:25It was a year later.
22:27You got married
22:29and started to live
22:31in Split.
22:33I think it was 1967.
22:35Until then
22:37you were an instrumentalist.
22:39You played the instruments.
22:41You got a chance
22:43to play a song
22:45called Pizza Ferrari
22:47at the Festival in Split.
22:49It's probably your...
22:51Zdenka Runjić
22:53and Dante Duplančić.
22:55I think
22:57that this song
22:59is what I always wanted to do.
23:01I played in a band
23:03and it was hard
23:05to come to the concert
23:07and play something by myself.
23:09It was hard
23:11because I didn't know
23:13what to do with my hands.
23:15I didn't know
23:17what to do with my hands.
23:19I don't know
23:21what to do with my hands.
23:23I just know
23:25that they let me go
23:27on the stage
23:29and I got out of there.
23:31It's not true.
23:33It's not true.
23:35It's not true.
23:37It's not true.
23:39The song is great.
23:41How did you get to Split?
23:43How did you get to Split?
23:45I was in Split
23:47and I saw Oliver
23:49playing in a band
23:51and it was great.
23:53I came to the Festival
23:55and everybody supported me
23:57and I was just
23:59cheering for Oliver.
24:01You made use of it.
24:03You had to go abroad
24:05and you sang in
24:07Sweden, USA, Canada
24:09and even in Mexico.
24:11You must have learned a lot.
24:13I learned from 8 to 4
24:15every night.
24:17How does it feel
24:19to play in a band in Mexico?
24:21They are Europeans and they love it.
24:23I was in a band
24:25where there were Germans,
24:27Danes,
24:29and one guy from Split,
24:31Mr.
24:33It was professional.
24:35I only knew that I sang
24:37all the songs from Luxembourg,
24:39Top List, USA.
24:41You once said
24:43that you started playing
24:45because you can make a living
24:47from playing music
24:49and you can make a good living.
24:51Do you still think so?
24:53I think that
24:55apart from the fact
24:57that I make a good living
24:59as a singer,
25:01I can't do anything else.
25:03I can't start a business.
25:05I can't open a cafe,
25:07a restaurant, a bar.
25:09I don't want to do that.
25:11I would never do that.
25:13They say that you make
25:15the most money
25:17on the Croatian stage.
25:19I wouldn't say that.
25:21Let's go back
25:23to the 70s.
25:25Those were the years
25:27of your biggest success.
25:29You came back
25:31and you started singing
25:33at the Split Festival.
25:35Čačemeni kopa kabana,
25:37Galebija, Romanca,
25:39Skalinada, Malinkonija,
25:41Pope, Poeta.
25:43You got along very well
25:45with Zdenko Runjić.
25:47I'll tell you now.
25:49Zdenko Runjić was the author
25:51of those songs
25:53when I sang Pizza Ferraia in 1967.
25:55Of course, I hated
25:57that performance.
25:59But I had no problems
26:01with time, years and songs.
26:03Zdenko Runjić showed me
26:05that he was a great man.
26:07We worked together for a long time.
26:09You still work with Zdenko Runjić,
26:11but now you work
26:13with other young authors.
26:15The only problem is
26:17that Zdenko is too active
26:19in organizing festivals.
26:21He has his own company.
26:23He has a lot of other obligations.
26:25He doesn't have time
26:27to sing other songs.
26:29Do you like how Nenad Belan
26:31and Djiboni work?
26:33That's what should happen.
26:35A group of young people
26:37comes to the forefront.
26:39Just mention them.
26:41There are 10 of them in Croatia.
26:43I think they are very close.
26:45They are friends,
26:47and they know Split.
26:49Something very strange
26:51is happening in the Split scene.
26:53A lot of very good young people.
26:55When you come to Split,
26:57it seems that everything
26:59was a bit messed up,
27:01but a whole generation
27:03of great people
27:05has come to Split.
27:07How do you explain that?
27:09I don't know.
27:11Maybe it's the order
27:13of the planets.
27:15I don't know.
27:17I'm glad it's like that.
27:19They are great young people.
27:21In the 70s,
27:23in Belgrade,
27:25when you read the entire archive
27:27where everything is written about you,
27:29more than 50 percent
27:31of those interviews
27:33are about you.
27:35It's incredible.
27:37I haven't been to that case yet.
27:39It's about the fact
27:41that they always loved the sea,
27:43and that you were a symbol
27:45of that sea.
27:47I think they still love that song.
27:49Do you think they still listen to you?
27:51In the beginning,
27:53when we were recording
27:55My Homeland,
27:57in Montenegro,
27:59I was the enemy number one.
28:01In Belgrade, too.
28:03But they tell me
28:05that they still listen to me.
28:07They made some Serbian covers
28:09of my songs.
28:11Do you think
28:13I could sing there again?
28:15I don't think so.
28:17Even if the official Croatian politics
28:19were good for normalization,
28:21I wouldn't sing in the Savacenter.
28:23I wouldn't.
28:25You haven't been involved
28:27in politics much in your life.
28:29All the singers
28:31are more or less on the same side.
28:33Except for the fact
28:35that you showed
28:37that you love your homeland
28:39and that you were committed
28:41to it whenever it was necessary.
28:43You haven't been a supporter
28:45of HRDZ or any other party.
28:47I can assume
28:49that Croatia is a legal state.
28:51I always have to say
28:53that it's always in my heart.
28:55When a foreigner comes to Croatia,
28:57we hate him
28:59because he is a nuisance.
29:01We don't follow traditions
29:03and we are not a tourist country.
29:05He is a nuisance
29:07in our peace and order.
29:09We hate him.
29:11He is a nuisance
29:13in our peace and order.
29:15I would love
29:17him to hate us.
29:19When we go abroad,
29:21he will underestimate us.
29:23I would like this country
29:25to be recognized
29:27economically and legally.
29:29The same as all the other countries.
29:31That's the only thing you want?
29:33That's the only thing I want.
29:35A new, young country.
29:37People.
29:39A lot of energy is spent
29:41on some things that are not important.
29:43When you sing abroad,
29:45at least in Germany,
29:47how do people react to you?
29:49How do you feel there?
29:51Most of the people
29:53are Croatians.
29:55I don't know what the Germans
29:57think about me.
29:59There are Germans
30:01who love your songs
30:03and your sea.
30:05They are tourists
30:07who have been to Adriatic Sea
30:09before.
30:11You have the best audience
30:13in Macedonia.
30:15Slavs were not very fond of you.
30:17You sing a lot in Slovenia.
30:19I have been singing in Slovenia
30:21since Nadalina.
30:23That was in the 80s.
30:25When they heard Harmonica,
30:27they forgot about me.
30:29They love me.
30:31A lot of Croatian singers
30:33sing in Slovenia
30:35and earn a lot there.
30:37It depends on the singers.
30:39Do they want you to come?
30:41Yes, they do.
30:43Yugoslavia has a lot of shortcomings.
30:45Croatian singers
30:47don't sing only in Slovenia.
30:49I haven't met them.
30:51Yes, there are.
30:53I work with pharaohs.
30:55They are a group from the sea.
30:57They find a job for me.
30:59I think they know
31:01where I would like to sing.
31:03I don't meet such people.
31:05There is one more interesting
31:07story from the 70s.
31:09I don't remember
31:11who it was.
31:13It's about your performance
31:15in Umaga.
31:17All the newspapers
31:19accused you of being
31:21responsible for the death
31:23of lions.
31:25It was in Novigrad.
31:27My manager was smart.
31:29How did it happen?
31:31It was a circus in Novigrad.
31:33I had a concert there.
31:35My manager
31:37went to the circus
31:39and told them
31:41that I can't perform
31:43because I had a concert.
31:45The owner of the circus
31:47who lived in Italy
31:49heard that the circus
31:51had to move to Umaga.
31:53On their way to Umaga
31:55they saw three lions.
31:57The owner of the circus
31:59had a heart attack
32:01and died in Italy.
32:03A journalist
32:05from Rijeka
32:07published it in some newspapers.
32:09I don't know
32:11what happened
32:13to the circus owner.
32:15I didn't know
32:17what was going on.
32:19She said that Oliver
32:21was responsible for the death
32:23of three lions.
32:25I got a letter
32:27from my animal friends
32:29saying that they would
32:31take me to Lokrum in Dubrovnik.
32:33She was with two daughters.
32:35She said hello.
32:37I said hello.
32:39We talked for a while.
32:41She said that she didn't know me.
32:43I said that I was the journalist
32:45who published the article.
32:47It was published in some newspapers
32:49in Belgrade.
32:51Then my friend Zdravko Rejic
32:53translated it into Croatian
32:55and published it in the Weekly Dalmatian.
32:57They knew it in Split and Svoboda.
32:59I didn't know why you published it.
33:01I didn't have money for food.
33:03I published it
33:05so that I could sell it.
33:07You love animals so much.
33:09I love animals.
33:11Fish for example.
33:13I can't say anything about it.
33:15If I could,
33:17it would be crazy.
33:19It's the only scandal
33:21that I found
33:23in my 30 years of career.
33:25You are constantly
33:27floating in the sea.
33:29You are less and less resistant.
33:31No, I'm not saying that.
33:33You don't have any scandals.
33:35Your private life
33:37is mostly on the beach.
33:39You know everything there.
33:41I don't like such excitement.
33:43I'm here in singing
33:45and in the music that I love.
33:47I'm very clean here.
33:49This little part of the journey,
33:51the panic,
33:53the madness in the plane,
33:55in the car,
33:57sleeping in another hotel,
33:59changing the kitchen.
34:01It takes a lot of energy.
34:03You published it
34:05with a yellow stamp.
34:07You read it with a yellow stamp.
34:09Because I don't have time.
34:11I don't read anything in the summer.
34:13When I go to hotels, I read.
34:15What comes to my mind?
34:17When you travel by plane
34:19and on long flights
34:21or on short flights,
34:23how do you handle it?
34:25Well, I smoke.
34:27You smoke?
34:29And when it's forbidden?
34:31A few years ago,
34:33I flew to Canada
34:35and for the first time
34:37in the history of aeronautics
34:39it was forbidden to smoke
34:41over the ocean for about 9 hours.
34:43How did you manage?
34:45They caught me in the toilet.
34:47I told the police
34:49that they would drop me off
34:51in the toilet.
34:55How many diopters do you have?
34:57Six plus.
34:59Six plus.
35:01You are one of the rare singers
35:03who managed
35:05to make an advantage
35:07out of these glasses.
35:09These glasses don't have diopters.
35:11I wear glasses.
35:13You wear glasses.
35:15I wear glasses,
35:17and this is a sunglasses.
35:19They are very comfortable.
35:21Yes, they are comfortable,
35:23but you can't wear them
35:25when you enter the room.
35:27Or when you lose them
35:29somewhere in the room
35:31and you can't find them.
35:33They have a good feeling
35:35for space,
35:37like Ray Charles.
35:39Do you sometimes have problems
35:41with your throat?
35:43That was
35:45on a psychological level.
35:47A year ago,
35:49I had a throat problem
35:51before my first concert
35:53in Lisinski in 1978.
35:55That was on a psychological level.
35:57I told Dr. Padovan
35:59that if I had a throat like that,
36:01it would be terrible.
36:03I couldn't speak.
36:05What was the reason?
36:07Fear.
36:09Fear of the audience?
36:11Yes, fear of the audience.
36:13It was my first concert
36:15and I didn't have a stage yet.
36:17I didn't have a stage yet.
36:19Do you still have that fear
36:21when you perform?
36:23It's much easier for me.
36:25I have a lot of songs.
36:27I have to take care
36:29of other things.
36:31It's hard for me at festivals.
36:33Those three minutes
36:35when I'm shaking.
36:37Why do you perform
36:39at the Eurovision Song Contest?
36:41What do they need it for?
36:43I said I would sing
36:45and we tried it together.
36:47People don't know
36:49that you are a passionate player
36:51of billiards, tennis, football.
36:53They say that you
36:55played billiards
36:57from 9 a.m.
36:59to midnight.
37:01What is that?
37:03It's nothing.
37:05I can go fishing
37:07without food and water
37:09for at least three days.
37:11I can do that.
37:13You do a lot of things
37:15with a lot of passion.
37:17Yes, a lot of passion.
37:19Sometimes I forget
37:21the time, the place.
37:23Sometimes they find me
37:25with a hand and a stick.
37:27You once said
37:29that a real billiard player
37:31is much more important
37:33than winning at a festival.
37:35No, no.
37:37Winning at a festival
37:39is like winning the first league.
37:41It's the best.
37:43Good fish, fresh from the sea.
37:45You put it on a grill
37:47and the fish turns like this.
37:49You like fishing.
37:51Describe the atmosphere
37:53when you go fishing.
37:55What do you feel?
37:57What do you enjoy?
37:59I enjoy
38:01the loneliness,
38:03the power of the sea.
38:05I enjoy the waves.
38:07I enjoy the fear.
38:09I enjoy the joy.
38:11I can't explain it.
38:13Maybe someone older
38:15than me should.
38:17It's something that
38:19fills me up so much
38:21that I don't need anything else.
38:23Do you turn on the radio
38:25or do you listen to music?
38:27I turn it on.
38:29When I'm done swimming,
38:31I go to bed.
38:33I don't sleep at all.
38:35You're a real family man.
38:37I suggest we watch
38:39a reportage
38:41that Melinda Kuril
38:43recorded in Split.
39:05The family of Dragojevic is five members.
39:07Oliver and Vesna
39:09celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary.
39:11They have three sons
39:13and met in Dubrovnik in 1973.
39:15Oliver was playing in Troubadour
39:17and Vesna was working in a hospital.
39:19When I saw that Oliver
39:21would earn as much as I did per month
39:23in one day,
39:25I quit my job.
39:27Vesna comments
39:29on her 20 years of experience
39:31as a housewife,
39:33mother and wife.
39:35It doesn't bother me
39:37that I don't work.
39:39I don't have any complexes.
39:41Do you feel good
39:43organizing everything?
39:45I feel great.
39:47I can organize everything.
39:49I can do everything.
39:51You said you look very young
39:53considering you have three children.
39:55Yes.
39:57We went to a cafe.
39:59I was there.
40:01I wanted to know
40:03how old you are.
40:05A lot.
40:07I'm over 40.
40:10Oliver's songs are subtle.
40:12They are just songs for the soul.
40:14Oliver says
40:16that's how it is in private.
40:18I'm not happy.
40:20It bothers me too much.
40:22Are you a tolerant woman?
40:24I am when I quit my job.
40:26It doesn't bother you?
40:28It doesn't bother me.
40:30I like to sing.
40:32Which is your favorite Oliver's song?
40:35Always the last one.
40:37We listen to it a lot.
40:39He recorded the album
40:41and we've been listening to it
40:43for a month or two.
40:45When the album comes out
40:47we don't listen to it anymore.
40:49Which is your favorite Oliver's song?
40:51Which is your favorite?
40:53I got two songs
40:55from a young author
40:57from Pula.
40:59I like them both.
41:10All these years
41:12of his music career
41:14Oliver only stayed at home.
41:16He was always there.
41:18When was the last time
41:20you sang solo like this?
41:22When I come home
41:24I sing.
41:26I rarely come home
41:28because I'm sensitive.
41:30Do you know how to sing?
41:32I don't know.
41:34We know everything.
41:36Have you ever thought
41:38about recording an album?
41:40Yes, I have.
41:42I would sell everything
41:44in this house.
41:46I would have to buy
41:48all the things I need.
41:50Do people ask you
41:52about Oliver?
41:54No, they don't.
41:56Why is that?
41:58Because they don't want
42:00to record an album with him.
42:02What do you expect
42:04from a woman singer?
42:06She comes to our shelter
42:08and asks me
42:10what Oliver sees
42:12before winter.
42:14Then she says nothing.
42:16Why?
42:18Because then
42:20the questions follow.
42:22We love him.
42:24The good God
42:26is watching over you.
42:29Go, my soul,
42:31go, my soul.
42:33The good God
42:35is watching over you.
42:37The good God
42:39is watching over you.
42:41Here you are.
42:43It's not the worst song.
42:45It's not the worst at all.
42:47Their sons didn't want
42:49to talk.
42:51They are in their own circle.
42:53He has only been to Oliver's concerts
42:55three times this year
42:57and doesn't listen to music
42:59that much.
43:01I don't listen to anything
43:03except Djibon and Dvornik.
43:05I don't listen to anything else.
43:07Djibon is closer
43:09to your sons
43:11than to your music.
43:13I listen to Djibon.
43:15Oliver followed Vesna
43:17to some of his concerts
43:19in America and recently in Opatija.
43:21He followed me to his concerts
43:23in America.
43:25It was interesting.
43:27He wouldn't go with me
43:29to Krasica
43:31or to Juršice.
43:33He wouldn't go there.
43:35I went to a special event
43:37in Porin.
43:39Were you nervous?
43:41Were you crying?
43:43No, I wasn't.
43:45I was crying.
43:47She wasn't crying.
43:49I was glad she could
43:51sit down and perform.
44:12What would you say
44:14if your wife was so popular?
44:16I wouldn't believe it.
44:18If my wife wasn't so popular,
44:20I wouldn't have married her.
44:22I would have been with her
44:24for a night.
44:26Why?
44:28Because a woman
44:30can't be a drinker.
44:32It's hard.
44:34It's hard to get
44:36800 men
44:38to come to your house
44:40and say they love you.
44:42It's hard.
44:44She has to.
44:46If she goes with you,
44:48it's because you're a drinker.
44:50I wouldn't go with her.
44:52We don't know each other
44:54because we don't drink.
44:56If we met
44:58she would have problems with me.
45:00Really?
45:02I would be the one
45:04who would cause problems.
45:06You say you're not pretty
45:08so you don't want to marry her.
45:10If I was pretty,
45:12I wouldn't be a drinker.
45:14Very well said.
45:44I heard
45:46that you want to be
45:48a dinosaur keeper.
45:50That I want to be a dinosaur keeper?
45:52Yes, that's what you said.
45:54For years?
45:56If I wanted to be someone else,
45:58I would want to be
46:00a dinosaur keeper.
46:02For music?
46:04I don't know what you mean.
46:06That's what I mean.
46:08I can't be a dinosaur keeper.
46:10I have a lot of reservations
46:12about everything.
46:14I don't want anything unplanned
46:16to happen to me.
46:18I don't want to hurt anyone.
46:20I don't want to be
46:22too exposed.
46:24I don't want to place myself
46:26where I shouldn't be.
46:28I don't know what to expect.
46:30A dinosaur keeper
46:32is a man of moments.
46:34When he's in a good mood,
46:36he sees half of the city.
46:38I'm not like that.
46:40He has a lot of energy.
46:42Like his father.
46:44He has energy for three men.
46:46You know Boris Dvornik
46:48and his son very well.
46:50You even sang with Boris.
46:52What kind of people are they?
46:54They are
46:56full of energy.
46:58Explosive.
47:00Romantic.
47:02Very romantic.
47:04Both of them.
47:06Dino and Boris.
47:08Impulsive.
47:10If they don't like something,
47:12they react right away.
47:14They don't want to keep
47:16anything to themselves.
47:18Everyone knows that.
47:20I don't know their real intimacy.
47:22But I think they are
47:24gentle and vulnerable.
47:26I mean, normal.
47:28Real drama queens.
47:30And romantic.
47:32Me too.
47:34You are a real drama queen.
47:36I'm not a colonel,
47:38but I'm a calm guy.
47:40What do you think
47:42about the Croatian
47:44entertainment and music scene?
47:46I think that
47:48what's happening now
47:50is a result of
47:52some kind of
47:54obsession
47:56or coercion.
47:58Some kind of
48:00exploitation
48:02in the last three or four years.
48:04And what's happening now
48:06is a result of
48:08what's growing
48:10and building in people.
48:12I think it's a very positive time.
48:14Do you ever want
48:16to be anonymous?
48:18No.
48:20It's great for me.
48:22I talk to everyone
48:24who wants to get close to me.
48:26It's not a burden.
48:28It probably won't be a burden
48:30if I ask you
48:32to sing for me.
48:34I can sing
48:36anything.
48:38But sometimes
48:40you have to sing.
48:42That's the worst.
48:44When you're in a bad mood
48:46and you really need to sing
48:48and you have to laugh
48:50and everyone says
48:52bravo and you get serious
48:54and you'd rather
48:56go to another room
48:58and sing.
49:00I'd rather sing
49:02than anything else.
49:04I want to sing.
49:06Why?
49:08I don't know.
49:10I want to sing something
49:12I've never sung at a concert.
49:14Something that's mine.
49:16Go ahead.
49:30¶
49:43¶ Počele su grube riči
49:46¶
49:48¶ Među svima, među nama
49:51¶
49:53¶ To na život večne sliči
49:56¶ Nismo dušo
49:58¶ Što je s nama
50:02¶ Počela je gruba zima
50:06¶ Veči repci kapotaju
50:11¶ Nevoja je tebe nima
50:15¶ Svi to znaju
50:17¶ Svi to znaju
50:20¶ Nevoja je tebe nima
50:24¶ Svi to znaju
50:26¶ Svi to znaju
50:30¶ Zašto uvijek bižiš
50:35¶ Zašto uvijek pritiš
50:39¶ Nemoj vrime gubit
50:44¶ Probajmo se jubit
50:49¶ Zaboravi ja te
50:53¶ Sve su to monade
50:58¶ Najljepše te jubi
51:03¶ Oni što te gubi
51:07¶ Najljepše te jubi
51:12¶ Oni što te gubi
51:22¶ Najljepše te jubi
51:26¶ Najljepše te jubi
51:31Oliver, you have three sons, right?
51:33Yes.
51:35How similar are they to you?
51:38How much are they the same as you?
51:41They are similar,
51:43only they love the sea,
51:45they love writing,
51:47but they don't listen to my songs too much.
51:49They don't sing.
51:51Do they listen to your songs at home?
51:53Lately, yes.
51:55Because when I'm not at home,
51:57they don't listen to my songs.
51:59They probably want to be with me.
52:03This show is called
52:05Faith and Love.
52:07What do you think about love?
52:09Love,
52:11towards the sea,
52:13it's perfect.
52:15Towards women,
52:17it's just as strong.
52:20I don't know what this song is about,
52:22but I think it's the best.
52:24It's something that could be written.
52:31¶ They believe in love ¶
52:33¶ Because love is everything ¶
52:35¶ They believe that love doesn't live without it ¶
52:37I mean, the one who lives without love,
52:39and there are few of them.
52:41Any kind of love is handicapped.
52:43Love is the best cure in life.
52:45I think so.
52:47I agree.
52:49In the end,
52:51I would like to make a request
52:53to our dear viewers.
52:55I invite all my guests to you.
52:57Tonight, I made a little exception.
52:59With Oliver,
53:01it's very hard to be new.
53:03Oliver,
53:05thank you very much.
53:07All the best,
53:09till the end of your life.
53:11Dear viewers,
53:13you've just watched
53:15the show in which
53:17the guest was Oliver Dragojević.
53:19Thank you and goodbye
53:21until the next Friday.
53:45¶¶ ¶¶