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Video Information: 23.05.25, VBC, Greater Noida

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Music Credits: Milind Date
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00:00Sir, there were two questions that came to me. First was that when you talked about the
00:12fact that there are people who find a very, very invincible position though they are at
00:18a stupid position. So, I have come across such situations, but what should one do? What
00:26is the appropriate, is it that one should not even try to haggle along or fight along
00:36or what is the way, what should one do in such situations?
00:44What do you do when somebody closes the door on you and it's a thick iron door? Do you
00:56fight the door or the lovelessness?
01:06The lovelessness.
01:07You cannot fight the door. The door is the solid, impenetrable argument that the person
01:14has. So, you would be very stupid if you fight the door and start arguing. You have to understand
01:22where the door is coming from, where the argument is coming from. That argument is coming from
01:29a perceived lack of love. Address that and the door would be opened. Otherwise, you can
01:38just keep beating at the door or trying to blast open the door and you will not succeed.
01:42Even if you succeed, that would be a lot of violence and would be very meaningless.
01:54Lovelessness in general can convince someone only if first of all that person is prepared
02:02to be convinced. Are you getting it? An argument could be in the form of a narration of your
02:15position. This is what I think, this is what I feel, this is where I am coming from and
02:24that's the argument. Or an argument could be in the form of an offensive weapon. I am
02:34not exposing my position. I am defending my position. I am not here to expose my position
02:47and change it. I am here to fortify my position and fight to defend it. In general, arguing with
03:02someone who is not in front of you for change does not help. First of all,
03:17it's difficult to beat someone purely by way of argument. Secondly, even if you defeat someone's
03:27argument, there is no way you have defeated his tendency or resolve. Just that the resolve will
03:38now get silent. Just that he will no more even speak to you. All that is no good. Argumentation
03:55helps only when there is right intent on both sides. It was very beautifully put by St. Kabir.
04:09The second one was
04:39This is obviously not exact. Someone can search and let me know. But that's what he meant. The
04:49prerequisite is love and love is an openness. Love is a vulnerability. Without that, all you
04:57will have is dry and meaningless and violent argumentation that yields nothing. The one that
05:12you are talking to, is he even willing to listen? Instead of arguing, try to awaken his listening.
05:23Usually, that deficiency in listening is just a deficiency in love.
05:53The next question is more of a derivative. As you said that the desire, one desire that grips you
06:14is basically possessed by the power of every desire that you can have a thousand watt. So,
06:24I just wanted to ask that if I find that the desires, a lot many cases that have found
06:31factually that the grip of desires have lessened. So, that means that the grip of the mind in
06:37general has lessened over the thing or is it that I am deriving it wrong as in the power,
06:45the total power, the total sum of power is if it is in one desire and that desire seems to have
06:53less grip than before. So, that means that the grip has loosened of the mind as a whole.
07:00We have to keep examining what's going on. Examination helps you know whether the grip
07:08has loosened and examination also loosens the grip. So, there is nothing except examination.

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