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00:09:00Manage.
00:09:20Hmm.
00:09:30Okay, so the one we're working on this time,
00:09:33for the record, the Cora video will go public
00:09:36as soon as a bunch of copyright issues are dealt with.
00:09:40Usual YouTube stuff, it's just this one's taking a lot longer.
00:09:43Anyway, so what we're doing now
00:09:46is we're doing the video on forgotten gay rep
00:09:50in Western animation.
00:09:52I have never cared for the narrative that gay rep
00:09:55in Western animation started with Kurosami,
00:09:58and it was like, Kurosami, then Steven Universe,
00:10:01then Katchador, and then the Owl House.
00:10:03A lot of shit gets erased when you do that.
00:10:05So, in particular, the stuff before Kurosami,
00:10:08because gay rep in Western cartoons
00:10:11was a common thing in Canada.
00:10:15Like, as early as 2004.
00:10:20In 2004, we had an episode of a show called Braceface,
00:10:24where Sharon, the lead character,
00:10:27tries to set her friend Dion up with another guy.
00:10:332004.
00:10:35Ten years before Kurosami.
00:10:45Hmm.
00:10:53And I'm writing down the episodes that have Dion in them.
00:11:01We're limiting it to Western?
00:11:03Does Sailor Moon and James in early Pokemon count?
00:11:06Oh, no, no, we're limiting it to Western
00:11:08for a particular reason.
00:11:11Oh, fucking right.
00:11:15You may believe in...
00:11:22What the fuck is that?
00:11:34Make sure I understood the parameters.
00:11:36Yeah, everybody already knows about Sailor Moon.
00:11:44HE HUMS
00:12:14HE HUMS
00:12:39There we go.
00:12:42HE HUMS
00:12:58Skin deep.
00:13:00Oh, wrong one.
00:13:02Misunder... Come on.
00:13:04Misunderstanding.
00:13:06Funny business.
00:13:11And... game setup and match.
00:13:18HE HUMS
00:13:29New conspiracy theory.
00:13:31Lily is the only Canadian who has internet access.
00:13:33Hey!
00:13:42Hmm.
00:13:46Hmm, hmm.
00:13:48I wonder if the episode was dubbed to Latin and Spanish.
00:13:51I wouldn't... I'm not sure.
00:13:53HE HUMS
00:14:06HE HUMS
00:14:11HE HUMS
00:14:19Oh, that's not the right one.
00:14:26HE HUMS
00:14:38Hmm.
00:14:41This one's misunderstanding.
00:14:44HE HUMS
00:14:54We're limiting it to cartoons as well, right?
00:14:56Yes!
00:15:03Specifically why I say Western animation.
00:15:07I don't know what about that is not coming...
00:15:09isn't coming in clear, but...
00:15:36HE HUMS
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00:16:43Oh, right. Let's see.
00:16:45Lloyd in Space...
00:16:47non-binary episode.
00:16:52Ninth episode of season three.
00:16:54Okay, we'll get that too.
00:17:06HE HUMS
00:17:11Oh, man, you just decided to be slow this time.
00:17:14HE HUMS
00:17:36HE HUMS
00:18:06HE HUMS
00:18:27HE HUMS
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00:18:47Aw, 360p? Come on.
00:18:58On the bright side, at least it's not as bad as...
00:19:00In fact, they use a specific alien species for the Envy character was a bit problematic.
00:19:04Okay, yes.
00:19:06While that is true, it was a bit problematic,
00:19:11as well as the fact that they turned around and basically used sexual orientation as a determination of gender.
00:19:18However...
00:19:20HE HUMS
00:19:23HE HUMS
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00:19:32Jesus.
00:19:34HE HUMS
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00:19:40Oh, God, no.
00:19:42HE HUMS
00:19:45HE HUMS
00:19:46This is going to be the thing.
00:19:48All of this is...
00:19:49Like, everything I'm going to give is, like, a baby bit problematic.
00:19:52Like, maybe the characters aren't as prominent as they should be.
00:19:56Dion is a little stereotypical.
00:19:59Zoit kind of, like, falls into bad fallacies about gender and whatnot.
00:20:04However, we had a show about...
00:20:07We had a show about...
00:20:09We had a show about a lesbian cat girl stalking her adoptive sister,
00:20:13and that was considered to be a landmark of gay representation.
00:20:17So, anything goes at that point.
00:20:21I'm sorry.
00:20:22ANYTHING GOES.
00:20:25Fumbling your gender metaphor a little bit is not even close.
00:20:30Like, that is much less problematic than whatever the fuck is going on over here.
00:20:35HE SIGHS
00:20:43HE HUMS
00:20:46HE HUMS
00:20:49HE HUMS
00:20:52HUMS
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00:21:01HE HUMS
00:21:04Okay, now which one was it three nine, okay
00:21:21You don't have oh wait
00:21:27Okay, you do have it both about ready to throw hands
00:21:31Who the fuck do you think you are not having Lloyd in space
00:21:52It's the first piece of children's media have incestuous gay furry
00:22:01I
00:22:20Think the well 101 Dalmatians the series wasn't gay specifically but
00:22:31I
00:22:49Where is it
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00:24:31Good and I got 16 downloading at the moment
00:24:57Okay, perfect
00:25:01Oh
00:25:03Mm-hmm
00:25:29Okay, so
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00:28:03When this happened it was a big moment a milestone for gay representation in a cartoon for children children chorus screaming in agony
00:28:11allegedly allegedly for children
00:28:16Screaming agony allegedly allegedly for children
00:28:33Oh, right, I should I should probably mention rusty at some point
00:28:48Mention rusty
00:28:56Hypothetically for children hypothetically for children
00:29:03I
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00:30:03Hmm
00:30:33I
00:31:03I
00:31:14Did did the gay characters of gravity falls have to be revealed on Twitter I can't fucking remember
00:31:20Refresh my memory like did gravity falls have to reveal its gay characters on Twitter
00:31:24Or would that actually get to be in the show because I can't fucking remember and it's gonna take me like
00:31:29about two hours to check
00:31:39I
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00:32:01It's a moment in the finale like Kurosami
00:32:19I
00:32:35An alley Thanks autumn Dasher
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00:34:12Some of whom even got to be on screen and have speaking roles some of whom even got to be on screen and have speaking
00:34:19roles
00:34:21Some of some of whom even got to be on screen and have speaking roles
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00:37:11Says sugars said Pearl and Rose's relationship was like if Alfred was in love with Batman
00:37:16Actually, it's more like if Brunhilde was in love with Calvin
00:37:21I
00:37:45Googles Oh No
00:37:52You
00:37:59Somebody tried to tell me that pearl was based off anthe to which I basically said wait a minute that doesn't work
00:38:06Not none of that works
00:38:13Better or worse than we googled old boy
00:38:21I
00:38:51I
00:39:21I
00:39:52Close together the ante NSU would be pink pearl, but even that's a very loose parallel. I
00:39:59Mean like if that's the case
00:40:03Hang on a second
00:40:08Well, if that's the case
00:40:15Does that mean roses this guy
00:40:21You
00:40:27Because it's starting to increasingly seem like it
00:40:51I
00:41:22Haven't seen you ten of it. I have mixed opinions about about it. It's fine
00:41:27It is it is monstrously overrated, but overall I'd say it's like a B. It's fine
00:41:36It shows up it says what it needs to say it stumbles like maybe three or four times and then fucking leaves
00:41:52Let's be us some people call that show psychedelic and
00:41:56it's
00:41:58That's not an unearned. That's not an unearned descriptor
00:42:07What adult cartoon you think has the best gay rep define adult cartoon
00:42:22You
00:42:32Family guys South Park Simpsons in that range well fam
00:42:34Well, the Simpsons is a pg-13 show
00:42:37So it's not an adult show and family guy is a 14 a show which is also not an adult show
00:42:41Those are shows for teenagers
00:42:51You
00:42:53You
00:42:55You
00:43:20Out of those three to really which has the better gay rep none of them really I mean they're all kind of crap
00:43:25I'd say family guy just barely edges out the other two, but I mean that's not an achievement
00:43:32Family guy still play it places pretty low objectively
00:43:39So that shows like an acid trip got it now like guys you gotta stop being so fucking reductive
00:43:46Every time I see somebody go. Oh, so it's basically I'm like no, please pay attention to what was said
00:43:55You
00:44:25You
00:44:55You
00:45:25You
00:45:55You
00:46:04Mation could stand on top of the hill and it struggled to climb and look backwards at the other hill that had already been climbed
00:46:09a decade prior yeah
00:46:12Decade prior
00:46:25You
00:46:55You
00:47:25You
00:47:55You
00:48:25You
00:48:39Hmm
00:48:55Hmm
00:49:25You
00:49:51Must be like Sisyphus
00:49:55Must being a critic for gay rep and cartoons must be like Sisyphus Sisyphalus
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00:53:26Wait a minute that has a watermark on it fucking help
00:53:32The fuck's putting watermarks on this shit
00:53:55You
00:54:25Oh, hey Rins here hey run
00:54:55Oh
00:55:25Red shows up with a chat and I just light up immediately
00:55:55You
00:56:10Fuck do I put gravity falls before after Steven universe it kind of came out around the same time
00:56:25Hmm before okay
00:56:55I
00:57:25You
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01:05:20Okay
01:05:25You
01:05:55You
01:06:25You
01:06:37Arguably better gay rep more quickly than these shows had a loud house rather notably had a multi-episode long arc involving Luna and her
01:06:44Girlfriend Sam even dropping the g-word long before the owl house did the Casa Grande's also beat them to that punch as well
01:06:50And keep on the age of wonder beasts opened its first season with a character talking very frankly about being gay
01:07:14At some point time stopped happening but aging didn't yeah
01:07:18Time is meaningless
01:07:48You
01:08:18You
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01:11:18You
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01:12:18You
01:12:48You
01:13:06One on-screen gay kiss kiss, uh, when was that? I don't know if I can squeeze Craig of the Creek in there
01:13:18You
01:13:41When did Craig of the Creek have their on-screen gay kiss
01:13:48You
01:13:51Craig come out in 2022. Oh, no, it's older than that
01:14:02Yeah, no that started in 2018
01:14:07That shows still going I
01:14:12Think it was season three
01:14:18You
01:14:48You
01:14:50You
01:15:14Fuck it. I'm just gonna fit that in there
01:15:20Da-da-da-da-da-da
01:15:50You
01:16:20You
01:16:50You
01:17:20You
01:17:50You
01:18:20You
01:18:50Okay
01:19:20You
01:19:50You
01:20:20You
01:20:50You
01:21:20Trying to come up with a decent joke about Canada
01:21:44Canada is like America, but the left wing and right wing swapped colors
01:21:50I
01:22:20You
01:22:50You
01:23:20You
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01:24:13You
01:24:21You
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01:25:20You
01:25:34Those who've never if you've never been there Canada is like America, but the left wing and right wing swapped colors
01:25:39Please leave a comment arguing if the Liberal Party is actually left-wing or a neoliberal Psyop
01:25:44I promise I will absolutely read it and take it seriously
01:25:50I
01:26:20Mm-hmm
01:26:50You
01:27:20You
01:27:40Yeah
01:27:50You
01:28:20You
01:28:51You
01:29:03You
01:29:20You
01:29:51Oh
01:29:55Yeah, I'm about to describe like the premise of Braceface and you're gonna be like what the fuck
01:30:20You
01:30:50You
01:31:20You
01:31:50You
01:31:59It's like no this isn't it
01:32:01No, this isn't a superhero show superhero show. It's just really fun. It's just a map
01:32:08It's just it's just an intense
01:32:12inconvenience
01:32:20I
01:32:50I
01:32:52I
01:33:22I'm stealing that one Lex here
01:33:29a
01:33:49Lot of shows are like that back then these days there'd be an entire season-long arc
01:33:54To learning the ins and outs of Sharon's magnetic teeth and then being part of some conspiracy by a villain with mommy issues
01:34:00But like now no, let's just set a show in fucking space
01:34:23You
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01:37:50Vicious sociopathic teenage girls in middle school or grown-ass adults on Twitter for you young folk
01:37:57Hmm
01:38:07Okay time to start watching the Dion episodes of Braceface
01:38:27Oh
01:38:50Yeah, this was what animated shows looked like they were in budget
01:38:57Oh
01:39:05They extended the damn thing
01:39:20One girl had to push a penny around the toilet seat with her no
01:39:27The breakfast table is an appropriate place to be discussing toilets. I'm not I'm talking about freshman initiation
01:39:34Adam you're freaking me out. Just talking about it
01:39:37Maybe mom should homeschool you Sharon at least until the first week of high school is over. I think Sharon will survive
01:39:45Torture in this country probably but no one ever gets caught so they do it
01:39:50Anyway, I certainly hope you never took part in that kind of thing. Oh
01:39:54Of course not mother just try to be invisible and you'll be okay, maybe
01:40:03You're too good a target Sharon with those braces and all your new accessories or those elastic bands
01:40:10We have to stick together all week every minute so they don't get us, okay
01:40:15I'm so not walking around with the nine on my forehead. Oh relax. How bad can it be?
01:40:20Excuse me. You want them to cover you in shaving cream in front of everyone? All right
01:40:25Here's my plan blend with what the lockers I'm thinking total invisibility
01:40:33Can't do that
01:40:35The lockers I'm thinking total invisibility
01:40:39Can't do that
01:40:41This week's gonna decide what happens all year
01:40:44And what happens this year is gonna decide what happens for the whole time
01:40:47We're here and maybe even for the rest of our lives
01:40:49I
01:41:01Can't believe how big this place is really hope we're in the same homeroom
01:41:06Yeah, me too. But what are the chances? Look how many kids there are here?
01:41:10I'm principal McCauley and I'm here to tell you about our fantastic mentor program
01:41:15We match you up with a senior student for one week to help you learn the ropes around here
01:41:20The whole idea is to help make the transition to high school fun and exciting
01:41:24All of the mentors have volunteered for this and are committed to helping you out
01:41:28If they're just pretending to be nice and using the mentor thing as a cover
01:41:32What if they really just want to torture us or make us their slaves?
01:41:35They couldn't do that, but what if they just don't like us or we don't like them
01:41:41Can we switch around and no switching around?
01:41:45Good luck to you all
01:41:49Believe it or not. Almost everyone. I knew got amazing matches. Let the energy flow through you
01:42:03Now this time be the ball get your inner self out of the way
01:42:15Oh
01:42:29Thank you, even Alden scored big with easy probably the coolest senior girl in the school
01:42:37Pretty good. You've got kind of a blink 182 thing happening. You really think so?
01:42:42Sure, if my VJ audition works out and I don't see why I wouldn't I think I can do something with you guys
01:42:50And my mentor
01:42:52Go I
01:42:54Have to concentrate. Well put it this way Dion was the most unique person I'd ever met
01:43:04God that paws on unique
01:43:06Every single ninth graders given a mentor from the older grades Canadian schools don't actually have this
01:43:37I
01:43:47Canadian high schools don't actually have this instead. We have a school supply list that doesn't include mandatory Kevlar
01:44:06I
01:44:36Have to concentrate well put it this way Dion was the most unique person I'd ever met
01:44:48What for
01:44:51So let them if they haven't figured out it's way more cozy under here than up there
01:44:56That's their problem. The thing is I just wasn't sure unique was quite right for high school
01:45:02I wanted to fit in not stand out the original paper dress brill or what?
01:45:10Can you see what I'm going for with this sack and Dion definitely stood out
01:45:20No, no, he's got a point
01:45:22Yeah, I feel like if this show would come out or later like tumblr would have fucking loved Dion less is more as they say
01:45:30What about your parents don't they have last names? All right secret time. Could I trust you?
01:45:40My birth monikers Mark Jones
01:45:43Yeah, I get bored. Just saying it Dion's more moi. Don't you think an homage to Celine?
01:45:53Only the greatest diva in the world
01:45:59You got a better idea, I don't know
01:46:02She's okay, I guess
01:46:04Okay, have you been paying attention as oh, yeah, he has a dead name
01:46:09What birth moniker is Marky Jones Celine Dion, he's perfect
01:46:39How unique is Dion well just looking at him you can already tell
01:46:44Tell exactly where they're going with him
01:46:48With him with him he's also a fact
01:46:54Wait with him, but the best part is he has a dead name
01:47:10You
01:47:17Your mentor I have a responsibility to cultivate your musical palate
01:47:22You must start listening to Celine's music and I mean really
01:47:27listen
01:47:29Okay, if you want me to a veritable treasure trove of detritus
01:47:34Huh
01:47:36The recycling bin one man's trash is another man's Versace
01:47:42Looking for your lunch
01:47:44No your sense of style, but I already scraped the bottom of the barrel Dion thinks he's so original
01:47:51In fact, he's just pathetically common this from a gal who ranks the butterfly clip is the highest form of accessory, right?
01:47:59My sense of style is so lame I scored a TV 3 VJ audition makes sense
01:48:06Completely pre fab clones pushing assembly-line music to people who don't think for themselves. It's you
01:48:12Well, I'd love to stay and pick garbage with you, but I have a life. I'm out of here. Let me guess
01:48:19She's not your best friend. I rejected her as a model for a fashion fundraiser last year and since then she hates me
01:48:25I don't lose sleep over it
01:48:29Prepare to be transported
01:48:33Just let you have this real really is killing it. Yeah used to be for home ec but no one uses it anymore ready
01:48:45It's awesome, I call it the social fabric I need about 60 more tabs and it's done
01:48:52Those are all soda can tabs
01:48:55fashionable and
01:48:56environmentally friendly at the same time
01:49:27I
01:49:35Working on a design that'll use the cans as well
01:49:38Amazing. I'm applying to the Fashion Institute and I need really original pieces for my portfolio by the end of next week Wow
01:49:46They can't ignore this one. So you want to be my model? I need to take pictures of all my pieces
01:49:54Are you serious?
01:49:57I love it. You know, you've got this great individualistic original thing going for you and those braces
01:50:05Bonus time they totally work with metal motif. I'm going for
01:50:11Oh, no, she's gonna magnetize her own dress
01:50:16Amazingly talented and really nice. I know some people think he's weird, but I think he's brave to be so out there
01:50:23Great. Has anyone tried to initiate you yet? Not so far. Maybe it's just a rumor
01:50:30I don't think so, but hopefully we won't get hit. We eat lunch together can't I want to try out the pool?
01:50:36And I only have 40 minutes before my next class
01:50:38See you later
01:50:43Want to go for a roll up I hear they sell them in the cab
01:50:46Oh, sorry a bunch of us are getting together to listen to CDs out in the parking lot a bunch of us
01:50:52Yeah, Evie and her friends, I can't believe how I lucked out my sister told me they're like the in crowd at school
01:50:58Oh
01:50:59Yeah, you're really lucky. I'm glad Sharon is so quickly flipped her opinion on Dion. Oh, yeah
01:51:05Uh, I guess you could it's just that I don't know. I'd have to see if that's cool
01:51:15Yeah, sure, why are you making such a big deal out of this I'm not
01:51:20You're the one who's making a big deal out of hanging out with Evie alone
01:51:24Sharon she's my mentor. Well Dion and I aren't spending every minute together
01:51:30We'll have lunch tomorrow. Okay? Okay. Sure. Whatever
01:51:34Sharon listen Evie and I have tons in common
01:51:37I mean, we're both totally into the music scene and I like a lot of the same music
01:51:42I'm even in your band. I know but that's different. She knows stuff. She can help us
01:51:48Do you know how connected she is? Hey Alden?
01:51:51You ready?
01:51:52Gotta go
01:51:54We still on for band practice tonight. Definitely
01:51:58Evie's gonna be there, too
01:52:18Thanks for something to tighten up the rhythm and work on your image, I'll take you shopping for clothes cool and lose the dancers
01:52:26Huh? It's tired and way uncool. No, it's not
01:52:31Trust me. I know what I'm talking about Alden. What do you think?
01:52:38It's true. She does
01:52:41Sorry, but that's not fair
01:52:43Maria and I've been part of this band for months now. You've known Evie for less than a week Sharon. Don't sweat it
01:52:50Let's just go
01:52:52Come on
01:52:57How can you be so calm well between swimming and basketball
01:53:01I don't have time to rehearse anyway, and I haven't even tried out for volleyball
01:53:05But it's like Alden's totally ignoring me. And do you notice the way he looks at her? She's just so gorgeous
01:53:12He's just impressed cuz she's cool and she's just lapping up all his attention because deep deep down she's probably totally insecure
01:53:19It won't last you think so. I hardly see him now. We don't have too many classes together
01:53:25Uh-huh
01:53:27Hello any time for friends after training for jock of the year? Hey, give me a break. At least it keeps me out of trouble
01:53:36Hey, you should join something too and start having some fun in high school
01:53:42As
01:53:44If I was in any shape to start getting into the school spirit thing, I couldn't even find a way around the place
01:53:51history history
01:53:56Room 102 I
01:53:59Thought we were nominating class president not babysitting ninth graders want us to get you a compass and pin it to your shirt
01:54:07Sorry
01:54:10Actually, she's really looking for the most pretentious
01:54:14Trendoid wannabe in the school. I'd say she found her really I thought she was here
01:54:19So you could take her to the dumpster for your latest fashion tips, or maybe it's the aquarium now
01:54:26She wants a crash course on how to be boring and your name keeps coming up
01:54:31I can see you guys are busy. So I'll just go away now
01:54:35Try not to get lost on the way to the bathroom mirror. Excuse me green stuff in your braces, sweetie. I
01:54:45Knew Dion was trying to help but it only made things worse
01:54:50Evie hated him which meant she hated me too. I didn't have to be a genius to figure that out
01:54:56It was obvious that the only way I was gonna survive high school was by avoiding both of them
01:55:05Hi kiddo
01:55:08Dental floss and elastic bands two of my fave textures. I don't want any more