Talks Between PTI and Establishment - Faisal Vawda Told Inside Story
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00:00Today's Jalsa and the atmosphere, is there anything better for PTI in the future?
00:06I am asking this question again and again because some of our friends were saying,
00:09in fact, Raghuf Hussain himself said that on 22nd August, when the establishment refused us,
00:17that's when they handed over the NOC of art to us.
00:19With the establishment, our deadlock is over, the breakthrough is done.
00:23If we allow the Jalsa to take place on the 8th, then we will consider it as a sign that the breakthrough is still going on.
00:29And if we don't allow it to take place on the 8th, then it means that something has gone wrong.
00:31So, we allowed it to take place.
00:32Do you agree with this interpretation or not?
00:34Look, Mr. Badami, there is a 0.1% chance that a captain, a constable or a soldier of the army
00:41will be involved in some kind of a negotiation.
00:43So, the rest is a long story.
00:44This is given with a lot of category and clarity.
00:46This is a perception. This is the same army, right?
00:48The one that was bad, the one who didn't want to be the chief.
00:51So, why did the army start being disciplined today?
00:53Okay.
00:54So, the first question starts from here.
00:55Okay.
00:56Give this one to me. Your coffee is getting cold. Thank you.
00:59The program will go on, but I will have my coffee.
01:02Okay.
01:03So, you don't have to worry about anything.
01:07In today's convention, you will have to see one thing.
01:10Yes.
01:11I will say the same thing about the government.
01:13They get upset.
01:14Brainless, headless, shameless.
01:16Incompetency was seen.
01:17There was no need to do anything.
01:19There was no contention.
01:20So many people had to come.
01:22Okay.
01:23So, you have put a container.
01:24Islamabad has been closed.
01:25The road to the cars has been diverted there.
01:27Maybe you and I would have got down to see the face.
01:29So, they would have been pulled out in the crowd.
01:31And they would have said that the convention was not big.
01:34It was smaller than this.
01:35But the crowd that was there, 35% of it was the crowd that went crazy.
01:39The rest came from anywhere.
01:40The rest who came from here, came from the traffic.
01:42So, the government mishandled and putting a container was stupidity.
01:44Incompetence, if I can say on the show, was stupidity.
01:49Man, aren't you a part of the government?
01:50I am not.
01:51I am a part of Pakistan.
01:53So, the rest were not the ministers of Bulgaria.
01:55They were from Pakistan.
01:56I am not the minister, sir.
01:57I am telling you this.
01:58Okay.
01:59You should have let them do it.
02:00All this chaos happened because of this.
02:02The convention that you saw, you saw it in a bad condition because of this.
02:06Okay.
02:07Mr. Gakla, how was the convention?
02:08Sir, I don't agree with Mr. Faisal.
02:12The convention was big.
02:13Mr. Khan did a crowd pool.
02:16And for a long time, his efforts were going on.
02:18Most of the crowd came from KP.
02:21There must have been some local people there.
02:23The big convention that should have come from Punjab,
02:25people should have come.
02:26At least, they didn't come.
02:28And if you have allowed them, PTI or Mr. Imran Khan,
02:31you have promised, the same thing, that the deal of 22 August,
02:34you have completed the deal.
02:35Yes.
02:36Then let them do it.
02:37After that, you have turned the whole of Islamabad into a war zone.
02:39It seems that some of you are in Baghdad, some of you are in Afghanistan,
02:41some are in Libya, some are in Syria.
02:43God forbid, a civil war-like country you have.
02:45And you have done that to the whole city here.
02:47I think it is 30-35 km away from the city.
02:50If I am not mistaken.
02:51You have shut down Islamabad.
02:53People are scared.
02:54There are 10 containers outside the Marriott.
02:56I don't know why they are there.
02:57So, you have created an atmosphere of the convention.
02:59So that Sushi Khaani doesn't come, thinking he is a dummy.
03:01Now, look at the local administration,
03:03look at the Minister of Internal Affairs,
03:04look at the government,
03:05that they have created fear here.
03:06The convention is 30-40 km away.
03:08And there is fear all over Islamabad,
03:09that God forbid, this is a war zone.
03:11So, at night, they say, turn off the lights,
03:12so that no one can kill the bomb.
03:13The conversation has started at 9 o'clock.
03:15You have already scared the people of Islamabad.
03:18You have created an atmosphere of the convention.
03:20That, yes, this is Mr. Khan's convention.
03:22People have to come.
03:23You are unprotected.
03:24Maybe it is because a certain percentage
03:25didn't come out of their homes,
03:26that it was a very bad convention.
03:27There was a lot of violence.
03:28No, the people of Islamabad
03:29don't come out of their homes anyway.
03:31I mean, it was till F10,
03:32the crowd didn't come out.
03:33If the crowd came out after F10,
03:34then I would have accepted it.
03:35Here, there are holidays for people,
03:36they don't come out.
03:37It is possible that 5-10% come out.
03:39Let them go.
03:40You have given them a legal permission,
03:42this PTA.
03:43Either don't give it,
03:44or the DC has given it.
03:45Let the people go.
03:46If people want to go,
03:47they can take the flags,
03:48go on the cycle,
03:49go on the bus,
03:50go on whatever.
03:51And what does Mr. Gandapur's speech indicate?
03:52So, I will come to that.
03:53The psychological barrier
03:54that Mr. Khan was trying to overcome
03:55for the past 6 months
03:56and was not able to do it 3 times,
03:58was that he needed a big convention,
04:01he needed clips,
04:02TV shows,
04:03your Twitter,
04:04V-Lodge,
04:05to show the world.
04:06Recorded?
04:07Again, you need recordings
04:08to show the world
04:09that there is a popular leader,
04:10sitting in jail,
04:11thousands and millions of people,
04:12their perception,
04:13the media will cover it.
04:14Our media will also cover it.
04:15So, for 4, 5, 10 days,
04:16this thing will come and go.
04:17There will be pressure on the government,
04:18there will be pressure
04:19on the establishment
04:20that if we want to talk,
04:21we have to talk to Mr. Imran Khan.
04:22Right.
04:23A popular leader is sitting in jail,
04:24plus you can see the situation
04:25in Bangladesh.
04:26Right.
04:27Now, Mr. Khan feels
04:28that the situation in Bangladesh
04:29is very fresh.
04:30Yes.
04:31This has been going on for a long time,
04:32so people's minds
04:33will keep on revolving.
04:34So, he keeps on saying
04:35the same thing again and again.
04:36He also says,
04:37he also talks,
04:38which I think
04:39Sher Afzal Marwat
04:40has also said,
04:41that 3-4 thousand people
04:42or 3-4 lakh people
04:43can come out of Bangladesh.
04:44Why can't you come out?
04:45There are 17 crore people
04:46and we have 25 crore people.
04:47So, psychologically,
04:48it was very important
04:49for Mr. Khan
04:50to have a meeting.
04:51And he has been trying
04:52for a long time.
04:53He has been fighting
04:54in his party as well.
04:55So, it was a good day
04:56for PTI.
04:57I think it was a good day
04:58for PTI.
04:59But, the speeches
05:00that have been made,
05:01you should first
05:02take a comment
05:03from Mr. Malik.
05:04Right.
05:05I still disagree
05:06with Mr. Faisal
05:07of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:08I still disagree
05:09with Mr. Faisal
05:10of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:11I still disagree
05:12with Mr. Faisal
05:13of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:14I still disagree
05:15with Mr. Faisal
05:16of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:17I still disagree
05:18with Mr. Faisal
05:19of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:20I still disagree
05:21with Mr. Faisal
05:22of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:23I still disagree
05:24with Mr. Faisal
05:25of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:26I still disagree
05:27with Mr. Faisal
05:28of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:29I still disagree
05:30with Mr. Faisal
05:31of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:32I still disagree
05:33with Mr. Faisal
05:34of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:35I still disagree
05:36with Mr. Faisal
05:37of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:38I still disagree
05:39with Mr. Faisal
05:40of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:41I still disagree
05:42with Mr. Faisal
05:43of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:44I still disagree
05:45with Mr. Faisal
05:46of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:47I still disagree
05:48with Mr. Faisal
05:49of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:50I still disagree
05:51with Mr. Faisal
05:52of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:53I still disagree
05:54with Mr. Faisal
05:55of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:56I still disagree
05:57with Mr. Faisal
05:58of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
05:59I still disagree
06:00with Mr. Faisal
06:01of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
06:02I still disagree
06:03with Mr. Faisal
06:04of Ali Ameen Gandapur.
06:05I still disagree