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00:00If anyone gives me any message about Jalsa, it will not have any value.
00:06Jalsa will take place in every situation.
00:08Even if you deny your commitment to NOC,
00:11I am a NOC myself and I will show you what NOC is and how Jalsa takes place.
00:16They are going to do Jalsa.
00:18Why should we cancel NOC?
00:20Why should we cancel NOC?
00:22Why did you cancel it before?
00:24No, we cancelled NOC at that time,
00:26considering the sensitivity of the matter.
00:28We are still sensitive.
00:30It's the same party, it's the same Jalsa.
00:32No, no, no. It was a Mubarak Sani case.
00:34But that was only the third time.
00:36What happened the first two times?
00:38Well, the first two times, of course,
00:40their track record is not stellar.
00:42On 25th May, 9th May,
00:44Even if you leave out 25th May,
00:46after 25th May,
00:48at least 80 Jalsas have been held.
00:50After 25th May, 80 Jalsas have been held.
00:52Everywhere.
00:54In Punjab, which city did they leave out?
00:569th May, 9th May.
00:58First of all, on 25th May,
01:00we showed a lot of restraint.
01:02We came and dispersed our people
01:04after reaching Centaurus.
01:06We could see that they were ruined.
01:08By breaking mirrors of the station.
01:10Look, sir, no.
01:12They were broken.
01:14You must have taken them for terrorism.
01:16Look, you created a situation
01:18where I was in Islamabad that day.
01:20And believe me.
01:22You were terrified.
01:24You were not able to get out of the house.
01:26You created a situation where I was in Islamabad that day.
01:28Hold on, hold on.
01:30You created a situation where I was in Islamabad that day.
01:32The government stops.
01:34Tears flow.
01:36Absolutely.
01:38Sir, if you settle the matter with them.
01:40Give them a place.
01:42They go to their place.
01:44Sir, we came from Lahore.
01:46We reached Islamabad.
01:48Nothing happened.
01:50You barricaded the whole city.
01:52Believe me.
01:54The kind of expired tear gas.
01:56We have eaten it. We know.
01:58I have seen it expired here for the past 20 years.
02:00Why?
02:02They don't use it.
02:06Thank God.
02:08He must have used the whole quota.
02:10It won't happen now.
02:12They will give a fresh quota.
02:14I hope so.
02:16What does this mean?
02:18Pakistan's track record.
02:20The biggest rallies,
02:22the biggest rallies.
02:24We have that record.
02:26We didn't break the pot.
02:28We gave a 126 day protest.
02:30We didn't break the pot.
02:32You came from the commander's house.
02:34You brought the pot.
02:38There is a black mark on your track record.
02:40No, but their track record.
02:42You isolate one incident.
02:44The other 200 incidents
02:46are the track record.
02:48We have given a protest.
02:50We have filled Pakistan five times.
02:52We have held rallies in every district of Pakistan.
02:54We call that a track record.
02:56If we talk about track record,
02:58they have a track record too.
03:00There is an exception in the village.
03:02As per the general rule,
03:04we have a track record.
03:06As per the track record,
03:08you have entered the Supreme Court.
03:10If you start from 25-26 May,
03:12then from 26 May,
03:14I think we have held 80 rallies.
03:1680 rallies.
03:18No confidence.
03:20You gave permission.
03:22You had a track record.
03:24You had a track record in Islamabad.
03:26What happened in those 80 rallies?
03:28We call that a track record.
03:30This is a track record.
03:32We have given them permission.
03:34On 8 May,
03:36they have a conditional,
03:38subjective permission.
03:40They have to complete 40 points.
03:42From Tarnaul,
03:44I was reading about it.
03:46They have to come to Jammu and Ghaffi.
03:48People won't be able to come
03:50to a place like Tarnaul.
03:52Let them come.
03:54That's what I meant.
03:56I have been saying this for 10 days.
03:58If there is a rally,
04:00it will be a big one.
04:02Swabhi's rally was not a big one.
04:04But I honestly,
04:06I don't want to see this rally
04:08going anywhere.
04:10Not from the administration.
04:12Irfan Siddiqui has brought a law.
04:14He has not come to the National Assembly.
04:16We are both honourable members of the National Assembly.
04:18He will come.
04:20When he comes to the National Assembly,
04:22he will be opposed.
04:24I am convinced of one thing.
04:26This is their right.
04:28They can peacefully
04:30and rightfully assemble.
04:32Subject to law.
04:34When they are given permission
04:36to peacefully assemble
04:38and then disperse.
04:40That's subjective to law.
04:42Along with that,
04:44the government and the state
04:46have a responsibility to ensure
04:48that the law and order situation
04:50is also our constitutional duty
04:52to ensure that we
04:54will peacefully assemble.
04:56We will peacefully assemble.
04:58I have come here for the first time.
05:00I used to argue with everyone
05:02that this is the fundamental right
05:04of a political party to assemble.
05:06Fundamental right.
05:08Subject to law.
05:10You will give a place.
05:12You will not come out of that place.
05:14Some people's rights will be affected.
05:16Absolutely.
05:18It is not possible that the writers
05:20are writing and Islamabad is closed.
05:22The problem is that a lot of people
05:24come and say, why should we do it?
05:26Either ban the party.
05:28Then your argument becomes legitimate
05:30that we have imposed a ban on them
05:32because of 9th May.
05:34This is not a political party.
05:36A political party should get this right.
05:38The responsibility of the government
05:40and the responsibility of the state
05:42is their constitutional right
05:44but also our constitutional responsibility.
05:46We have to ensure that.
05:48Being a senior and a responsible
05:50member of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf,
05:52I am telling you that our aim
05:54is to come and assemble
05:56within the confines of the law
05:58and peacefully go home.
06:00The NOC that you have given us
06:02and the terms and conditions
06:04that you have put on it.
06:06Sir, you are completing them.
06:08We will still complete them.
06:10We will try as much as humanly possible
06:12but that also speaks to your mind
06:14that we should not do it.
06:16But even after that,
06:18our point of view is very simple.
06:20We have found a point.
06:24I was joking with him.
06:26Sir, ask the member of the government
06:28what is the culture of Pakistan.
06:30Tell us that the events have
06:32conformed to the cultural values
06:34of Pakistan.
06:36What does it mean?
06:38It is very clear.
06:40The values of Pakistan
06:42are that we live in a religious society.
06:44Cultural values.
06:46What does it mean?
06:48The culture of Pakistan cannot be
06:50a farce.
06:52I don't want to define it.
06:54Have you ever seen a Pakistani
06:56convention?
06:58I have heard a lot of stories
07:00about the PTI in Islamabad.
07:02I have heard stories.
07:04I have not seen them.
07:06You live in Islamabad.
07:08You are a politician.
07:10I am sure you must have heard
07:12a lot of stories about your party.
07:14Don't mention it.
07:16This is wrong.
07:20I am very happy to see
07:22that he understands
07:24the democratic values.
07:26Of course.
07:28I understand.
07:32This is my understanding.
07:34We hear a lot of things.
07:36I understand what you are
07:38saying.
07:44I will give you my understanding.
07:46A decent person
07:48should make 40 points
07:50which we give him.
07:52This makes no sense.
07:54What are you trying to say?
07:56You are trying to
07:58give him a message
08:00about the cultural values
08:02of Pakistan.
08:04You are trying to
08:06play a song on him.
08:10He can fly a pigeon
08:12and do whatever he wants.
08:14What is the meaning
08:16in flying a pigeon?
08:18We have a peaceful mind.
08:20We are not singing
08:22the songs of Naseem Bulal.
08:24I don't want to fight with you.
08:26Listen to me, why are you after Mr. Mian's pigeons?
08:28No, I am saying that
08:30he also plays music.
08:32He was crying when Mr. Mian wanted to come.
08:34Mr. Mian's pigeons...
08:36It was a mystic moment.
08:38Mr. Kashi, I am telling you.
08:40Mr. Kashi, I am telling you.
08:42Mr. Mian's pigeons
08:44have flown the parrots
08:46of this Jamaat.
08:48Mr. Mian's pigeons have flown the parrots of this Jamaat.
08:50No, Mr. Mian has flown his parrot.
08:52Okay, tell me the definition of flying a parrot.
08:54The way a parrot flies...
08:56I will tell you.
08:58No, no, no, I will tell you.
09:00Sir, no. I will tell you.
09:02No, he is scared, he is in fear.
09:04He is in a dilemma.
09:06I will tell you the definition of flying a parrot.
09:08Sir, should I tell you the fear and the fear?
09:10The definition of flying a parrot is
09:12that a vote is taken in my name,
09:14a Jamaat is formed in my name,
09:16a government is formed in my name and
09:18in the end, my bag is called and I am told to go to London.
09:20No, Mr. Mian, with such a mandate,
09:22do you know that this language is common?
09:24It was not common.
09:26He is a three-time Prime Minister.
09:28No, two-thirds majority.
09:30Obviously, any Jamaat
09:32has a desire,
09:34an effort, that I should be two-thirds majority.
09:36And Mr. Mian, such a...
09:38If there is no two-thirds majority,
09:40they will not form a government.
09:42We said that the majority of the people
09:44is yours, you should form a government.
09:46You are talking about one thing.
09:48If you say that with 80 or 90 seats,
09:50they say that we are...
09:52I did not say that.
09:54This is a large single party.
09:56They should have formed a government.
09:58If I say, it is unfair.
10:00He is saying that Mr. Mian won't win.
10:02One second. I am not saying that.
10:04If I say that it is unfair,
10:06if Patan says that Mian did not win,
10:08then...
10:10It will definitely happen.
10:12I am not denying.
10:14I know exactly.
10:16He reported on KPK Provincial.
10:18It will definitely happen.
10:20But Patan is saying that
10:22Ata Tarar did not win.
10:24Mian Nawab Sharif did not win.
10:26This is an unsubstantiated report.
10:28He did not say anything.
10:30He just said that Congress Assembly
10:32has more than 70,000 votes and
10:34Subahi has less than 70,000 votes.
10:36This is unsubstantiated.
10:38This is the same thing.
10:40This is the same thing.
10:42This is the same thing
10:44This is the same thing
10:46that happened in Maldan.
10:4816,000 votes were rejected in National Assembly
10:50and 2,000 votes in Subahi Assembly.