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00:00:00Before I started making this film, I knew nothing about Bobby Kennedy.
00:00:04A privileged guy with ten kids who became a hero to black and Hispanic communities
00:00:08and promised to heal a divided America.
00:00:11Then a year before I was born, he was assassinated.
00:00:18This is the story of Kennedy and his assassin.
00:00:21The official story, the evidence against, and the others who may have been involved.
00:00:30This was America in April 1968, in the days after Martin Luther King was assassinated.
00:00:40Washington burned and days of riots left the cities in ruins.
00:00:47This film was shot by the National Guard as they kept order in the streets.
00:00:51On the soundtrack, a priest urges people to prayer.
00:01:00Lord have mercy.
00:01:02Almighty God, look with mercy upon your family.
00:01:06Guide and guard us in body and soul by your bounteous grace and protection.
00:01:11I'm telling you, we can have fascism tomorrow if the whole community does not act now
00:01:17and recognize the threat to white folks of what is happening in the black community.
00:01:22As American cities burned, Robert Kennedy stepped forward to heal a divided nation.
00:01:27When King was killed, Kennedy was to speak to a large outdoor group of blacks in the inner city,
00:01:34in Indianapolis, and they didn't know that King had been shot.
00:01:38God knows, if they could have had guns, they would have been violent.
00:01:41He stepped up to this young white privileged guy and he said,
00:01:44I have bad news to tell you, Martin Luther King has been killed in Memphis.
00:01:48And this, oh, goes over the crowd.
00:01:51For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and mistrust
00:02:01of the injustice of such an act against all white people,
00:02:08I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling.
00:02:15I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man.
00:02:20My favorite poet was Aeschylus.
00:02:23He once wrote, even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart
00:02:33until in our own despair against our will comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.
00:02:42What we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness,
00:02:47but is love and wisdom and compassion toward one another,
00:02:52feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country,
00:02:58whether they be white or whether they be black.
00:03:02Incredibly eloquent, absolutely off the top of his head.
00:03:05This was no spin, this was no counselor, no people crafting his words.
00:03:10This was him.
00:03:12That was his great moment.
00:03:14And I think that's the kind of thing we lost with both King and Kennedy, the two of them together.
00:03:19The ability to ring the bell, to prick the conscience of the country,
00:03:23to ask us to be better than ourselves.
00:03:28The next day, Kennedy spoke in Cleveland about assassination.
00:03:32No one, no matter where he lives or what he does,
00:03:37can be certain who next will suffer from some senseless act of bloodshed.
00:03:43And yet it goes on and on and on in this country of ours.
00:03:50Two months later, he too would be assassinated.
00:03:54When John Kennedy was elected president in 1960,
00:03:58Bobby became his right-hand man,
00:04:00serving as Attorney General and overseeing the secret war on Castro.
00:04:04But after his brother died, he was slowly transformed into a gentler, more compassionate figure.
00:04:09A 17-minute ovation at the 1964 Democratic Convention
00:04:13brought his raw emotions to the American public.
00:04:17Distrustful and marginalized by President Johnson,
00:04:20he quit the cabinet in 1964 to run for senator in New York.
00:04:28We're here tonight, there's very little more I can say
00:04:30except to introduce the former Attorney General of the United States
00:04:32and candidate for the United States Senate from New York, Robert F. Kennedy.
00:04:40Aren't you really using New York State as a kind of jumping-off place
00:04:44for your own presidential ambitions?
00:04:47We have a Democratic president.
00:04:49He's going to be elected in 1964.
00:04:51In my judgment, he's going to be re-elected.
00:04:55He's going to be re-elected in 1968,
00:04:58so that the earliest that I'm going to be jumping off someplace
00:05:02is 1972, which is eight years from now.
00:05:04I'm going to have to be a wonderful United States senator.
00:05:07I hear somebody outside said,
00:05:09are you going to serve your whole six years?
00:05:11I don't know where I'd go.
00:05:14With Johnson's help, he won the election
00:05:16and joined the War on Poverty,
00:05:18visiting black slums in the inner city, Kentucky and Appalachia.
00:05:22He also reached out to Cesar Chavez and the Mexican farm workers
00:05:25during their great boycott in California.
00:05:28He was the only national political figure
00:05:30that would go to Delano and support the farm worker struggle.
00:05:33He was very compulsive about seeing a social problem,
00:05:37economic problem, and then want to find the answer to it
00:05:40and do something about it.
00:05:42So he was our kind of activist.
00:05:44By 1968, huge protests swept the country
00:05:47over the war in Vietnam.
00:05:49And in cities torn by racial tension,
00:05:51the Black Panthers were preaching revolution.
00:05:53I say violence is necessary.
00:05:56Violence is a part of America's culture.
00:05:59It is as American as cherry pie.
00:06:01America is in trouble today
00:06:03not because her people have failed,
00:06:05but because her leaders have failed.
00:06:07We see Americans dying on distant battlefields abroad.
00:06:11We see Americans hating each other,
00:06:13fighting each other, killing each other at home.
00:06:16As we see and hear these things,
00:06:18millions of Americans cry out in anguish.
00:06:20Did we come all this way for this?
00:06:26There was a craziness in the country
00:06:28and a wildness and a violence.
00:06:30We were in the midst of our second civil war
00:06:32here in the United States. It was that serious.
00:06:34And much more intense than you're seeing
00:06:36about Iraq or anything like that.
00:06:38Kennedy's supporters wanted him to spearhead
00:06:40the anti-war movement and run against Johnson
00:06:42for the presidency.
00:06:44But Kennedy didn't want to be seen as an opportunist.
00:06:46Robert Kennedy temporized about whether
00:06:48he should run for president or not.
00:06:50He was ambitious. He was against the war.
00:06:52Was it the right time to run or not?
00:06:54I am announcing today my candidacy
00:06:58for the presidency of the United States.
00:07:00He was against the advice of a lot of people,
00:07:03including his brother Ted.
00:07:05But it was something he felt he had to do
00:07:07for whatever reason.
00:07:09And then he ran and he got killed.
00:07:14Tomorrow's citizen needs people.
00:07:18People who know how to plan for his future.
00:07:24He needs them in the right places.
00:07:26Now.
00:07:28People like Robert Kennedy.
00:07:32One thing is clear in this year of 1968.
00:07:35I believe in this country as I've traveled across.
00:07:38And that is that the American people
00:07:40want no more Vietnams.
00:07:43In August in Chicago, the Democratic Party
00:07:45will nominate its candidate
00:07:47for president of the United States.
00:07:49There are two roads to that nomination.
00:07:51One is to seek commitments through discussions
00:07:53with political leaders.
00:07:55The other is to go to the people.
00:07:58I think this is a great country.
00:08:00And I think we've accomplished it.
00:08:02Get a haircut.
00:08:08I'm just at the pitch of my campaign speech.
00:08:12And I look around and it says,
00:08:13get a haircut.
00:08:14I got a haircut.
00:08:17No matter what happens,
00:08:18I got a very tough road ahead.
00:08:21America was a great force in the world
00:08:24with immense prestige
00:08:26long before we became a great military power.
00:08:29The real constructive force in this world
00:08:32comes not from bombs,
00:08:34but from the imaginative ideas,
00:08:36the warm sympathies,
00:08:37and the generous spirit of a people.
00:08:41I shall not seek
00:08:44and I will not accept
00:08:47the nomination of my party
00:08:49for another term as your president.
00:08:51With the president out of the race,
00:08:53Kennedy took to the campaign trail.
00:08:55He started out away from the cities
00:08:57in the heartland of Indiana and Nebraska.
00:09:00Robert Kennedy on a family farm.
00:09:04How can we make the people in this city
00:09:06understand our problems?
00:09:07Well, let me be president of the United States.
00:09:12Robert F. Kennedy in Indiana.
00:09:16Even here at home,
00:09:17I've seen children here in the United States starving
00:09:20without adequate or satisfactory meals,
00:09:23whether it be in eastern Kentucky,
00:09:25whether it be on some of our Indian reservations,
00:09:27or whether it be in the Delta area of Mississippi.
00:09:29Young children starving to death.
00:09:32Obviously, we can work out a system
00:09:34where you can produce these goods,
00:09:38and those goods be made available to our own population.
00:09:41This is the most dangerous time
00:09:42that you can possibly live in,
00:09:44but that also makes it the most interesting time.
00:09:47Camus said that he wouldn't exchange his time
00:09:49with any other time, just for that reason.
00:09:51We had great prestige a number of years ago
00:09:55around the rest of the globe,
00:09:56but it wasn't because of our military power,
00:09:58and it wasn't because of our economic power.
00:09:59It was just because people believed in us
00:10:01and believed that we would do what it was right,
00:10:04and believed that the principles
00:10:06that we attempted to follow within our own country
00:10:08we stood for around the rest of the globe,
00:10:10and they don't have that same confidence now.
00:10:13By the end of May, it was clear
00:10:14California would make or break
00:10:16Kennedy's political career.
00:10:18It's the 30th of May
00:10:20I'm gonna ride all the way
00:10:22On the train to my home, California
00:10:27And I hear people say
00:10:29All the way with RFK
00:10:31On the train to my home, California
00:10:36And the train has a dream
00:10:38For the great San Joaquin
00:10:40Can you hear what this song tries to tell you?
00:10:44As the train passes by
00:10:46Sing a dream never dies
00:10:49Like the grass of my home, California
00:10:53Well, he had just won Indiana and South Dakota
00:10:56and lost Oregon.
00:10:57Oregon was the first time
00:10:58a Kennedy had ever lost an election,
00:11:00so coming into California,
00:11:02they were going for broke.
00:11:03Cesar Chavez, seeing that Robert Kennedy
00:11:05was doing so much on behalf of the farm workers' struggle,
00:11:08organized over 200,000 new voters in California,
00:11:11and that's never been done before.
00:11:13We saw for the first time in Latino communities
00:11:16people lined up at the polls before the polls opened.
00:11:19This happened in black communities
00:11:21in California as well,
00:11:23and we've never seen it since.
00:11:25So there's something there that he had,
00:11:27something very special.
00:11:29And so if a man follows the difficult
00:11:31and rewarding path of the primaries,
00:11:33if he is willing to come in
00:11:35to the fresh, stern air of popular judgment,
00:11:38he could do worse than submit his hopes to California.
00:11:42For me, this primary is a vital turning point.
00:11:45To you, it is a choice about the kind of future you wish.
00:11:49California is the largest of our states.
00:11:51In Tuesday's election, however,
00:11:53it will be all of America.
00:11:56On June 4th, vote for Robert Kennedy.
00:12:00Kennedy won California
00:12:02and looks set to challenge Nixon for the White House.
00:12:04Just after midnight, he gave his victory speech
00:12:07at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.
00:12:09As we were walking through the kitchen,
00:12:11towards the embassy ballroom,
00:12:14it was one of those wonderful scenes,
00:12:16you know, kitchen workers coming over
00:12:18to shake hands with him,
00:12:20and Viva Kennedy and Kennedy for Presidente.
00:12:22And it was just that kind of celebration
00:12:25of people who really needed the presidency
00:12:28more than anybody else in the country.
00:12:30And so we walked out and went on the platform
00:12:33and he made this wonderful victory speech.
00:12:35What I think is quite clear
00:12:41is that we can work together in the last analysis
00:12:44and that what has been going on within the United States
00:12:47over the period of the last three years,
00:12:49the divisions, the violence,
00:12:51the disenchantment with our society,
00:12:54the divisions whether it's between blacks and whites,
00:12:56between the poor and the more affluent,
00:12:58or between age groups or in the war in Vietnam,
00:13:00that we can start to work together.
00:13:02We are a great country and a selfish country
00:13:04and a compassionate country.
00:13:06And I intend to make that my basis for running
00:13:09over the period of the next few months.
00:13:13Mayor Yorty has just sent me a message
00:13:14that we've been here too long already.
00:13:18So my thanks to all of you
00:13:21and now it's on to Chicago and let's win there.
00:13:23Thank you very much.
00:13:27Moments later, he was assassinated.
00:13:30Oh, what?
00:13:31What?
00:13:35Shoot it! Please shoot it!
00:13:37Oh, no!
00:13:38Close the door! Close the door!
00:13:40Oh, my God.
00:13:41Senator Kennedy has been shot in the head.
00:13:44I am right here.
00:13:45Rafer Johnson has a hold of the man
00:13:47who apparently has fired the shot.
00:13:49He still has the gun.
00:13:50The gun is pointed at me right at this moment.
00:13:52I hope they can get the gun out of his hand.
00:13:54Get the gun. Get the gun.
00:13:56His hand is frozen.
00:13:57Get his thumb. Get his thumb.
00:13:59Take a hold of his thumb and break it if you have to.
00:14:02Get his thumb.
00:14:04Okay, now hold on to the guy.
00:14:06Hold on to him.
00:14:08Hold on to him, ladies and gentlemen.
00:14:10They have the gun away from the man.
00:14:1224-year-old Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan
00:14:14is seen firing at Kennedy in a kitchen pantry
00:14:17and is arrested as the lone assassin.
00:14:19And notebooks at his house seem to incriminate him.
00:14:22He carries the motive in his shirt pocket,
00:14:24a newspaper clipping about Kennedy's promise
00:14:26to sell 50 bombers to Israel.
00:14:28But only a last-minute change of plan
00:14:30led the senator into the killing zone.
00:14:32After Robert said, you know,
00:14:34it's on to Chicago and let's win there,
00:14:37he was supposed to go down
00:14:39to the Ambassador Ballroom downstairs.
00:14:42And I heard Eddie Menezan say,
00:14:45we're going to the Colonial Room for a press conference.
00:14:48So he, instead of coming down the way we had gone up,
00:14:51he turned around and went through the back of the stage.
00:14:53Kennedy's campaign manager, Fred Dutton,
00:14:55made the route switch five minutes
00:14:57before the end of Kennedy's speech
00:14:59with Bill Barry, the ex-FBI agent
00:15:01who served as Kennedy's unarmed bodyguard
00:15:03throughout the campaign.
00:15:05They thought it was too late and overcrowded to go downstairs,
00:15:08but nobody seemed to know about the change.
00:15:10The arrangement had been he was to go off the podium
00:15:13on the other side to go down to the lower ballroom
00:15:16to speak to the crowd.
00:15:18And suddenly Bob came by me,
00:15:21heading out the back door.
00:15:23I couldn't figure it out,
00:15:25and so I decided that I was going to run after him
00:15:29and stop him and tell him he was going the wrong way.
00:15:32When a voice shouts,
00:15:33Senator this way!
00:15:34Senator!
00:15:35Senator this way!
00:15:36This way!
00:15:37Kennedy turns and follows
00:15:38Maitre d' Carl Uecker off the back of the stage,
00:15:40wrong-footing his security team.
00:15:43Uecker led Kennedy behind the curtain
00:15:45and through a backstage anteroom.
00:15:47Instead of going downstairs,
00:15:48they turned right towards
00:15:49the double-swinging doors of the pantry
00:15:51on their way to a press conference
00:15:53in the Colonial Room.
00:15:55Kennedy shook hands with supporters
00:15:56as he walked through a narrow passageway
00:15:58jammed with 77 people.
00:16:00He stopped to shake hands with two waiters
00:16:02at the edge of a metal steam table
00:16:04when the shots rang out.
00:16:05The X on the floor marks where Kennedy fell
00:16:08after he was shot.
00:16:09The place was so crowded and packed,
00:16:11the place was hot,
00:16:13and I decided to get off the platform
00:16:15and I walked in through the doors
00:16:18and wound up in the pantry area
00:16:21and stood there waiting,
00:16:23and then I saw him coming through the swinging doors.
00:16:26Then he stopped and shook hands
00:16:28with two guys in the kitchen
00:16:29who were standing up against the wall,
00:16:31and I remembered saying,
00:16:32you know, this is the guy
00:16:34who's really going to be the president.
00:16:36As we turned to go,
00:16:40I followed,
00:16:43and all of a sudden, you know,
00:16:45there were flashes and crackling.
00:16:47I heard...
00:16:49I started shaking violently.
00:16:51I remember that.
00:16:53So I just fell and went out.
00:16:55As soon as he finished shaking hands,
00:16:57I knew he'd turn around,
00:16:59and I would be able to tell,
00:17:02you know, you're going the wrong way.
00:17:04And at that time,
00:17:06all of a sudden,
00:17:07it was a string of shots,
00:17:10which I thought initially were firecrackers.
00:17:13I really did.
00:17:14I thought some idiot had done that,
00:17:17and I looked over toward the noise,
00:17:21and out of the crowd of people
00:17:24at the end of the steam table,
00:17:26there was this arm with a gun in it.
00:17:29I asked Frank to reenact the shooting
00:17:31with our lighting case as Robert Kennedy.
00:17:33The moment of the shooting,
00:17:35I am standing off of Bob Kennedy's
00:17:40right shoulder at about this position,
00:17:44and I hear the noise,
00:17:46and I look there,
00:17:47and I see an arm with a gun
00:17:50sticking between a crowd of people.
00:17:53Then look back in the direction
00:17:56that the gun was pointed,
00:17:58and I saw that Robert Kennedy
00:18:00had thrown his hands up to his head
00:18:03and was starting to turn this way.
00:18:07Then I look back,
00:18:08and the gun was coming forward,
00:18:10and I met it like this.
00:18:13Underneath his arms,
00:18:14sort of in a bear hug type of thing,
00:18:17and several other people grabbed him,
00:18:20mostly from behind.
00:18:21I got very concerned
00:18:23that somebody was going to kill him.
00:18:25They were bending his back such
00:18:27that I was afraid
00:18:28they were going to break his back,
00:18:30and I wanted him to go to trial.
00:18:32Nobody had gotten the gun away from him by then.
00:18:35Rosie Greer had it pinned against the table.
00:18:38As I looked down,
00:18:39the gun was pointing right up at me,
00:18:42and I thought,
00:18:43I sure hope that thing is empty.
00:18:45Kennedy, after he got shot with the first shot,
00:18:48he had his hands up to his head like that,
00:18:51and he started to spin to his right.
00:18:54The second shot, it appeared the bullet hit him
00:18:59because his right arm went limp,
00:19:01and it went down to the side,
00:19:03and he started falling back towards me.
00:19:06The third bullet, I believe,
00:19:07is that the bullet that hit Paul Schrade
00:19:09because at that point, Paul went down.
00:19:13Carl now has got the gun.
00:19:15He's banging the gun.
00:19:16I'm watching the bullets come out of the gun.
00:19:19Every time he hits it, he fires.
00:19:21Goldstein gets hit.
00:19:23What number bullet? I don't remember.
00:19:25He hits me on my right shoulder.
00:19:27I am now falling,
00:19:28but I'm now on the ground.
00:19:30I have Kennedy on my legs.
00:19:32I've got Paul under my left arm,
00:19:34and I've got Goldstein on top of my right shoulder.
00:19:37I'm basically on the bottom of a pile of people,
00:19:40and crying.
00:19:43I was hysterical.
00:19:45Carl literally had his hand banging it on the cabinet,
00:19:49trying to get him to release it.
00:19:51Finally, after the gun was empty,
00:19:53he was still banging his hand,
00:19:55and you could still hear the gun click.
00:19:57He was still trying to shoot at him on the ground.
00:20:01When we were on the floor,
00:20:03and the shooting was finished,
00:20:05I was on my knees,
00:20:07and I crawled over to the senator.
00:20:09First thing he said was,
00:20:11is everybody else all right?
00:20:13He said, you know, don't say anything.
00:20:15Just don't speak.
00:20:17All he was concerned with was everybody else.
00:20:19Something I can never forget,
00:20:21to see a man who knew he was probably going to die,
00:20:25worrying about everybody else.
00:20:27It was just, you know,
00:20:31a horrible time from then on,
00:20:34to know that we had lost him that way.
00:20:37We won, and we lost,
00:20:39all in matter of moments.
00:20:41Two hundred million Americans
00:20:43did not strike down Robert Kennedy last night,
00:20:46any more than they struck down
00:20:48President John F. Kennedy in 1963,
00:20:52or Dr. Martin Luther King in April of this year.
00:20:55But those awful events
00:20:58give us ample warning
00:21:00that in a climate of extremism,
00:21:04of disrespect for law,
00:21:06of contempt for the rights of others,
00:21:09violence may bring down the very best among us.
00:21:14Early the next morning, June 6th,
00:21:17Robert Kennedy died.
00:21:19His death cast another dark shadow of grief
00:21:22across America.
00:21:26Thousands came out to mourn Robert Kennedy
00:21:28as he made his final journey by funeral train
00:21:31to Arlington Cemetery in Washington.
00:21:33My brother need not be idealized
00:21:36or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life.
00:21:40To be remembered simply as a good and decent man
00:21:44who saw wrong and tried to right it,
00:21:48saw suffering and tried to heal it,
00:21:51saw war and tried to stop it.
00:21:55As he said many times
00:21:57in many parts of this nation,
00:22:00to those he touched
00:22:02and who sought to touch him,
00:22:04some men see things as they are and say why.
00:22:08I dream things that never were and say why not.
00:22:16The LAPD concluded all eight shots were fired from Sirhan's gun.
00:22:20Three hit Kennedy's body and five others were injured.
00:22:23According to police criminalist Duane Wolfer,
00:22:26shot one was the fatal bullet,
00:22:28hitting Kennedy behind the right ear and penetrating his brain.
00:22:31Shot two passed through the shoulder pad of Kennedy's coat
00:22:34and struck Paul Schrade in the head.
00:22:36Shots three and four hit Kennedy under the right armpit.
00:22:39One bullet lodged in his neck.
00:22:41The other passed through and got lost in the ceiling.
00:22:44Shot five hit Ira Goldstein.
00:22:46Shot six struck the floor and hit Erwin Strohl.
00:22:49Shot seven hit William Wiesel in the abdomen
00:22:52and shot eight hit the ceiling
00:22:54and bounced down to hit Elizabeth Evans in the head.
00:22:56But the police description of the bullet that hit Paul Schrade
00:22:59made him doubt the official version of events.
00:23:01Their description of the bullet that hit me
00:23:03was one that went through the shoulder pad of his coat,
00:23:06didn't hit him, but went through about here
00:23:10and came out in the back and hit me in the head.
00:23:13And looking at the photographs of Duane Wolfer,
00:23:16wearing Robert Kennedy's jacket,
00:23:18passing a rod through those two holes,
00:23:21and I'd have to have been much taller than I am at 6'4
00:23:25for that to have gone into my head.
00:23:27There's no real explanation of that.
00:23:29According to the autopsy report,
00:23:31all three shots that hit Kennedy
00:23:33were fired at a sharp upward angle
00:23:35at a muzzle distance of one inch behind Kennedy and to his right.
00:23:39The actual shooter of Robert Kennedy
00:23:42was standing behind Robert Kennedy,
00:23:44according to the autopsy report.
00:23:46Serhan was standing in front of him, face to face.
00:23:48The distance between the muzzle of the assailant's weapon
00:23:51and Robert Kennedy's body
00:23:53was somewhere between actual contact
00:23:55and no more than three inches.
00:23:57And the weapon was held at a sharp upward angle,
00:23:59again from the rear.
00:24:01All the witnesses state that Serhan's weapon
00:24:03was held between one and a half and six feet away
00:24:05from Robert Kennedy, horizontally,
00:24:07in relation to the floor.
00:24:09The autopsy report exonerates Serhan.
00:24:11Carl Uecker is seen leading Kennedy through the pantry
00:24:14in this 1971 reconstruction.
00:24:16Uecker insisted Kennedy had just turned to face Serhan
00:24:18when the shots began,
00:24:20that Serhan's gun never got closer
00:24:22than a foot and a half to two feet from Kennedy,
00:24:24and that he grabbed Serhan after the first two shots.
00:24:26If that bullet which killed Kennedy
00:24:30that was an inch away from his head,
00:24:33this bullet didn't come from Serhan.
00:24:38Did not come from Serhan.
00:24:41Because he never got that close.
00:24:43Another witness, Lisa Erso,
00:24:45said Kennedy was still shaking hands
00:24:47when the shots started,
00:24:49but placed the gun five feet from Kennedy
00:24:51in another reconstruction.
00:24:53How close was the distance
00:24:55between the muzzle of the gun and Kennedy?
00:24:58Well, that's something that I can't be sure of,
00:25:02but I know it wasn't six inches or anything like that.
00:25:05It was a matter of a foot or two at the most, you know,
00:25:10and it could have been even a greater distance.
00:25:14The angles of the gun that I saw
00:25:17was either horizontal
00:25:20or pointed downward, not upward.
00:25:23Evan Freed was six to eight feet from Kennedy
00:25:25when the shooting started.
00:25:27Serhan Serhan would have been directly across from me
00:25:30and the senator would have been to my left.
00:25:32The senator took a couple of steps forward
00:25:34so we were sort of walking toward each other
00:25:36when the shots began.
00:25:38It took me at least two shots
00:25:40before I realized what was happening
00:25:42because it went pow, pow, pow.
00:25:44At that moment I looked over and I saw Serhan shooting.
00:25:46Serhan Serhan for at least a second and a half
00:25:48was all by himself,
00:25:50standing in front of where the senator was
00:25:52with people converging on him,
00:25:54but at that moment he was free to fire his gun.
00:25:57And he wasn't moving when he was shooting when I saw him.
00:26:00He was just standing still
00:26:02with the gun held horizontal, shooting.
00:26:05And I would estimate that the distance
00:26:07between him and the senator at that point
00:26:09was about five feet.
00:26:11This police diagram shows the witnesses
00:26:13clustered around Kennedy at the time of the shooting.
00:26:16Those who were asked all placed the gun
00:26:18one and a half to six feet from Kennedy,
00:26:20except L.A. Times photographer Boris Yarrow,
00:26:23who was looking through a camera lens
00:26:25and could only see Kennedy and Serhan in silhouette.
00:26:28Even if Kennedy was still shaking hands,
00:26:30turned to one side, as Wolfer suggests,
00:26:32the muzzle distance seems too great.
00:26:34The first burst of gunfire
00:26:37could not have been that close.
00:26:41But the police and FBI never asked Burns
00:26:43about the muzzle distance.
00:26:45The issue of distance never came up.
00:26:47It was never discussed.
00:26:49Distance seemed to be something that came in later on
00:26:53when people read the autopsy report
00:26:55and said, how could that be?
00:26:57Somehow there's two guns.
00:26:59But I did find one new witness
00:27:01who could place the gun much closer.
00:27:03Vincent DiPiero had first spotted Serhan
00:27:05in the kitchen before the speech.
00:27:07I thought he was a regular dishwasher.
00:27:09I thought he was somebody who worked downstairs.
00:27:11And I didn't think anybody that was back there didn't belong.
00:27:14He was walking through the kitchen.
00:27:16I thought he was looking for a place to stand.
00:27:18So when the senator came down, he wanted to shake his hand.
00:27:21I mean, he wasn't, like, casing the place.
00:27:23He wasn't, like, looking suspicious.
00:27:25And that's how I recognized him again
00:27:27as we came through the doors
00:27:29because he was standing on the tray stacker.
00:27:31I saw him starting to get down,
00:27:33figuring he was going to go shake his hand.
00:27:35Disregarded Kennedy.
00:27:37I was watching the senator.
00:27:39The next time I saw him
00:27:41was when I saw his arm come up with the gun
00:27:43because he was crouched down.
00:27:46He was literally crouching like he had a stomach cramp.
00:27:50And all of a sudden he came around
00:27:52with his right arm came up.
00:27:54He pushed Carl with his left hand.
00:27:57And he came straight up, and he reached.
00:27:59He was lunging.
00:28:01And the gun was in an upward angle.
00:28:04His hand was going up towards his head.
00:28:08And when he pulled the trigger,
00:28:10Sirhan himself was standing probably 3 feet away,
00:28:13but the gun, the muzzle of the gun,
00:28:16couldn't have been more than 3 to 5 inches away from his head.
00:28:20Carl was, I think, taken off guard
00:28:22the way he went around him.
00:28:24He literally went on the inside part of the cabinet,
00:28:27slid along the cage, and pushed Carl,
00:28:30who was pulling Kennedy to go to the colonial room.
00:28:35The first shot definitely was Sirhan pulling the trigger.
00:28:39I mean, there's no doubt in my mind that Carl was in the way.
00:28:44Carl did grab his arm.
00:28:46Whether it was the third shot or the fourth shot,
00:28:49I wasn't counting.
00:28:51I was praying I didn't get shot.
00:28:53I read Vincent the statement he gave the FBI
00:28:55two days after the shooting.
00:28:57I saw this individual reach his right hand around Mr. Uecker,
00:29:01and in his hand he had a revolver
00:29:03which was pointed directly at Senator Kennedy's head.
00:29:06The revolver was about 3 to 5 feet from Senator Kennedy's head.
00:29:10This individual then shot Senator Kennedy in the head.
00:29:13Senator Kennedy at this time threw his hands and arms up,
00:29:17reeled backwards, and fell to the floor.
00:29:20Your statement saying that the revolver was about 3 to 5 feet from Senator Kennedy's head.
00:29:24I think that was a million mistake.
00:29:27Sirhan was standing 3 to 5 feet away,
00:29:30but his arm was extended,
00:29:32and when he extended his arm,
00:29:34it was a few inches from his head.
00:29:36Vincent insisted he didn't write the statement.
00:29:39That was not my hand right now that you showed me.
00:29:42I did not write that.
00:29:44But the same day, Vincent gave the following testimony before the grand jury.
00:29:47How close did the suspect get to the senator?
00:29:50It couldn't have been more than 6 feet.
00:29:52How close to the senator was the suspect when the gun started firing?
00:29:564 feet. 4 to 6 feet.
00:29:58When we recall something,
00:30:00very often we may recall the gist
00:30:03but many of the details are part of our way of reconstructing the memory.
00:30:09It's very much like an iceberg that melts and then refreezes again.
00:30:15When it refreezes, it's still an iceberg,
00:30:17but it's not exactly the same shape as it was in the first place.
00:30:20Now that's what our memory is like.
00:30:22We may remember the gist,
00:30:26but the details can be generated by what we think happened.
00:30:34There was also evidence that more than 8 shots were fired in the pantry.
00:30:38The police knew that they could not discover any bullets on the crime scene
00:30:43because 7 bullets were taken from victims
00:30:46and an 8th was supposedly lost in the ceiling.
00:30:49Any evidence of additional shots would confirm that multiple shooters were involved
00:30:54because the capacity of the so-called Serhan revolver was 8 shots.
00:30:57Previously undisclosed FBI photographs
00:31:00confirmed there were bullet holes in the pantry door frames.
00:31:04These were circled by an L.A. Sheriff's Department deputy.
00:31:07The FBI labeled these as bullet holes.
00:31:09There were witnesses that the police criminalists were digging out bullets from the door frame.
00:31:14Those bullets never materialized. They were never disclosed.
00:31:17The LAPD removed the door frames and ceiling panels
00:31:21and destroyed them before Serhan's appeal even got off the ground.
00:31:26I discovered new film of an unknown finger pointing out these bullet holes.
00:31:30Look at the size of the lower hole on this strip of molding.
00:31:33It's much larger in the FBI photo, suggesting an attempt was made to dig something out of it.
00:31:38And FBI agent William Bailey remembers seeing two bullets in these holes.
00:31:43I saw two bullet holes in a center divider.
00:31:48I saw two bullets in the holes.
00:31:52I have serious reservations whether or not any of Bobby's wounds were inflicted by Serhan's gun.
00:32:01There are a number of candidates for the second gun,
00:32:04but the most obvious one is a security guard named Thang Eugene Caesar,
00:32:08who was, unlike Serhan, standing in exactly the position and location he had to be
00:32:14to fire the shots that hit Robert Kennedy.
00:32:16Thang Eugene Caesar was standing behind Robert Kennedy and in contact with him,
00:32:20by his own admission, where the shooting began.
00:32:23He dropped to the floor and reached for his weapon.
00:32:26One witness saw him fire.
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00:33:53Caesar's clip-on tie lay on the floor
00:33:55beside Robert Kennedy after the shooting.
00:33:57Here we see Caesar without his tie
00:33:59nearly an hour later.
00:34:09Caesar's gun was never checked
00:34:11on the night of the shooting.
00:34:13He told police he had sold his .22
00:34:15three months before the assassination.
00:34:17A receipt proves that it was sold
00:34:19after the assassination.
00:34:21The person who made out this receipt
00:34:23confirmed Caesar told him
00:34:25at the time of the sale,
00:34:27be careful of this weapon,
00:34:29it was involved in a police shooting.
00:34:31He was the obvious first suspect.
00:34:33The police brushed him off
00:34:35and never investigated him further.
00:34:41There was also evidence of another
00:34:43conspirator, the girl in the polka dot dress.
00:34:4520-year-old Kennedy volunteer
00:34:47Sandra Serrano was sitting outside
00:34:49the fire escape when she saw
00:34:51two people fleeing the scene.
00:34:53I was standing there just thinking,
00:34:55thinking about how many people there were
00:34:57and how wonderful it was.
00:34:59Then this girl came running down the stairs
00:35:01in the back, came running down the stairs
00:35:03and said, we've shot him, we've shot him.
00:35:05And I said, who did you shoot?
00:35:07And she said, we shot Senator Kennedy.
00:35:09A boy came down with her.
00:35:11He was about 23 years old
00:35:13and he was Mexican-American
00:35:15because I can remember that
00:35:17she had on a white dress with polka dots,
00:35:19she was light-skinned, dark hair
00:35:21and she has a funny nose.
00:35:23I thought it was really funny.
00:35:25All my friends tell me I'm so observant.
00:35:27After nearly 40 years,
00:35:29Sandra kindly agreed to her first interview
00:35:31since the night of the shooting.
00:35:33It was very claustrophobic
00:35:35in the ballroom. You could barely move.
00:35:37I just stepped out onto
00:35:39the fire escape
00:35:41and a little balcony attached.
00:35:43While I was sitting there, three people passed by.
00:35:45A woman
00:35:47and two men.
00:35:49And the woman
00:35:51I remember was
00:35:53definitely an Anglo.
00:35:55And at the time I thought
00:35:57both men were Latinos.
00:35:59They went in and said,
00:36:01excuse me, very polite.
00:36:03Then a little later
00:36:05two of them came out
00:36:07and
00:36:09like tripping over each other
00:36:11and tripping over me.
00:36:13I said, what happened?
00:36:15They said, we shot him, we shot him.
00:36:17I said, you shot who?
00:36:19They said, the senator.
00:36:21I said, what?
00:36:23Then I remember going into the ballroom
00:36:25and everything was chaotic.
00:36:27Absolutely chaotic.
00:36:29I remember very distinctively
00:36:31that she was wearing a white dress
00:36:33with black polka dots.
00:36:35Like a little ruffle around the collar.
00:36:37Like a bib top sort of.
00:36:39Dark hair definitely.
00:36:41A little pixie kind of cut.
00:36:43And a nose that's sort of like Bob Hope
00:36:45and Richard Nixon kind of nose.
00:36:47A little bit ski.
00:36:49There's certain things about what happened
00:36:51that day
00:36:53that I will never forget.
00:36:55And the statement,
00:36:57we shot him, we shot him.
00:36:59I'll never forget that.
00:37:01So I'm very clear in my mind
00:37:03that that's what was said.
00:37:05Both guys actually were short.
00:37:07A guy in a gold sweater
00:37:09came up and down with the girl
00:37:11but the second man didn't come down.
00:37:13Sandra described him as a white male,
00:37:1523 years old, 5'3",
00:37:17with curly bushy hair and light colored clothes.
00:37:19After seeing the picture of Serhan
00:37:21in the newspaper,
00:37:23she felt certain this was the same person.
00:37:25That's what it was,
00:37:27seeing the photograph in the LA Times
00:37:29and I said, wow, it really does look like that guy.
00:37:31As Serhano stuck to her story,
00:37:33Sergeant Enrique Hank Hernandez
00:37:35was brought in to give her a polygraph test.
00:37:37He was a very frightening person.
00:37:39He was like some Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde type.
00:37:41One minute he was just like
00:37:43really, really nice
00:37:45and soft spoken,
00:37:47like a wonderful big brother.
00:37:49The next minute he was like,
00:37:51you know, you're an awful person
00:37:53and you're hurting the Kennedys.
00:37:55I've seen those people.
00:37:57No, no, no, Sandy.
00:37:59I don't know what I told you about it.
00:38:01You can't say you saw something when you didn't see it?
00:38:03Sandy, look.
00:38:05I can explain this to the investigators
00:38:07where you don't even have to talk to them
00:38:09and they won't talk to you.
00:38:11I can do this.
00:38:13But please, in the name of Kennedy.
00:38:15No, no, I'm talking about
00:38:17what you have told her about saying
00:38:19a person tell you he had shot Kennedy
00:38:21and that's wrong.
00:38:23No, it isn't, Sandy.
00:38:25Look, I love this man
00:38:27and you're shaming him.
00:38:29He can't even...
00:38:31Well, I'm trying not to shout,
00:38:34but if you love the man
00:38:36the least you owe him.
00:38:38The least you owe him is a courtesy
00:38:40of letting him rest in peace.
00:38:42I felt like I was a criminal.
00:38:44That's my best description.
00:38:46I felt like I was a criminal
00:38:48and I had done something wrong.
00:38:50You didn't do that. You didn't see that.
00:38:52You weren't there.
00:38:54You're making all of this up.
00:38:56Why are you doing this?
00:38:58Just a lot of brow-beating.
00:39:00In later years, it crosses your mind.
00:39:02Why did they invest so much
00:39:04in beating you up?
00:39:06If there was nothing there,
00:39:08why did they beat you up so much?
00:39:10I remember thinking
00:39:12that he was lying.
00:39:16And then thinking,
00:39:18no, he can't lie, he's the police.
00:39:20The police don't lie.
00:39:22Finally, Hernandez wore Serrano down.
00:39:24I remember saying to him,
00:39:26whatever you want me to say, I'll say.
00:39:28I'm not here to hurt anybody.
00:39:30I don't want to do anything bad.
00:39:32So whatever you want me to say, I'll say.
00:39:36They were the cops.
00:39:38They were the good guys.
00:39:40Hernandez pressured Serrano
00:39:42into a retraction and concluded
00:39:44she had never seen Serrano in person
00:39:46and had fabricated for some unknown reason
00:39:48the girl in the polka dot dress.
00:39:50Someone in the LAPD said
00:39:52that it was not going to be another Dallas.
00:39:54They were going to wrap it up real quick.
00:39:56And so I remember when I read that
00:39:58and talking to my uncle and aunt,
00:40:00who I lived with at the time,
00:40:02we all sort of said, yeah, right.
00:40:04Maybe that's why they were so hard on you.
00:40:06But Serrano wasn't the only witness
00:40:08to see a girl in a polka dot dress.
00:40:26I don't know.
00:40:28I don't know.
00:40:30I don't know.
00:40:32I don't know.
00:40:34I don't know.
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00:41:14I don't know.
00:41:16I don't know.
00:41:18I don't know.
00:41:20I don't know.
00:41:22DiPiero's description of the girl
00:41:24was almost identical to Sander Serrano's.
00:41:26An attractive brunette
00:41:28in a white dress with black polka dots
00:41:30and a ruffled bib-like collar.
00:41:32There was a girl that I saw.
00:41:34He glanced at her as though
00:41:36a guy was checking out a girl.
00:41:38Whether they were together, I doubt it.
00:41:40But, I mean, there's not...
00:41:42I don't think that she would have
00:41:44wanted to go out with somebody like him.
00:41:46But he was standing on the stacker
00:41:48and she was behind that to his left.
00:41:50What were you wearing?
00:41:52The famous polka dot dress.
00:41:54Do you remember what colours it was?
00:41:56I remember them as white and black
00:41:58but they could have been purple,
00:42:00they could have been a dark colour.
00:42:02I don't remember exactly.
00:42:04During the trial, Vincent identified
00:42:06Valerie Schulte as the girl.
00:42:08Schulte was standing in the pantry
00:42:10but had blonde hair, wore a green dress
00:42:12with yellow polka dots, was on crutches
00:42:14and had no contact with Sirhan.
00:42:16Whether she had blonde hair at that time
00:42:18or not, but I remember seeing
00:42:20what I thought was brown hair.
00:42:22All I remember was she was very pretty
00:42:24and she looked just like Valerie
00:42:26unless she has a twin that had
00:42:28dark brown hair.
00:42:30The LAPD agreed that Schulte
00:42:32did not match DiPiero's description.
00:42:34The final report concluded
00:42:36Sandra Serrano had no knowledge
00:42:38of a girl in a polka dot dress
00:42:40until she spoke to DiPiero.
00:42:42There must have been a mutual agreement
00:42:44between them as to the description
00:42:46Valerie Schulte was named
00:42:48as the only girl in a polka dot dress
00:42:50in the pantry. Ms. Schulte is blonde
00:42:52and slender and does not fit the description
00:42:54which Serrano supplied investigators
00:42:56in any way.
00:42:58Sirhan grew up in the family home
00:43:00in Pasadena. His sole surviving
00:43:02family member is his younger brother,
00:43:04Muneer, seen here in his first ever
00:43:06interview. We came
00:43:08to the US
00:43:10by Christian sponsorship.
00:43:12I believe it was the Nazarene Church
00:43:14brought us here as refugees
00:43:16from Palestine. We were a normal
00:43:18Christian God-fearing family, believe it
00:43:20or not, at one time. Mom worked at the
00:43:22Presbyterian Church teaching
00:43:24children. One brother was an entertainer.
00:43:26They'd always have feuds, entertaining
00:43:28belly dancing, and mother's an
00:43:30avid Christian and what have you. But other
00:43:32than that, just a normal happy-go-lucky Christian
00:43:34God-fearing people, believe it or not.
00:43:36Sirhan was born
00:43:38in Jordan in 1944
00:43:40and both brothers experienced heavy bumming
00:43:42during childhood. It's like sticking
00:43:44your tongue into a 220-volt
00:43:46current. I mean,
00:43:48the whole ground would shake,
00:43:50the buildings would shake. You were terrified, not only
00:43:52of the sounds outside, but the screaming
00:43:54in the confinement of the makeshift bomb shelters.
00:43:56But because of those facts,
00:43:58they've sheltered me from the Middle East,
00:44:00so I'm more of an American
00:44:02than I am. And even
00:44:04things that I do remember, they try to
00:44:06make me forget them so that,
00:44:08you know, to go on with life.
00:44:10It was a new beginning.
00:44:12Sirhan grew up a shy teenager.
00:44:14He dropped out of college after the death of his sister
00:44:16and worked as a gas station attendant.
00:44:18He liked to play pool. He liked
00:44:20music. He liked to read a lot.
00:44:22He was interested in languages.
00:44:24He would go around the house
00:44:26narrating phrases
00:44:28in various languages, Spanish, Russian,
00:44:30French. He wanted
00:44:32to be a UN interpreter at one time.
00:44:34So, you know, his vocabulary was
00:44:36up to par, so to speak.
00:44:38I don't know what sidetracked him from that
00:44:40to go to horse racing.
00:44:42In 1966, Sirhan left home
00:44:44to work as a stable boy and trained
00:44:46to be a jockey. But a few months later,
00:44:48a nasty fall ended his career
00:44:50before it started. He was working a horse
00:44:52and due to the fog,
00:44:54it bucked him into the railing
00:44:56and he had a severe injury to the head.
00:44:58And he wasn't the same afterwards.
00:45:00He was a little shaky.
00:45:02I don't know how to describe it.
00:45:04But he just wasn't himself.
00:45:06He was a little aloof
00:45:08and a little more tense and what have you.
00:45:10And he just wanted to be more or less
00:45:12by himself after that for some odd reason.
00:45:14After the fall, Sirhan's interest
00:45:16in mysticism grew.
00:45:18He joined the mystical order of the Rosicrucians
00:45:20and took to hypnotizing himself
00:45:22in his room.
00:45:24He had a fish weight hanging
00:45:26from the light in his room
00:45:28and I asked him what that was all about
00:45:30and he said it had something to do with his
00:45:32mystical
00:45:34powers, so to speak.
00:45:36Once in a while he'd get mail from the Rosicrucians
00:45:38and Mom would ask him
00:45:40what that was all about
00:45:42and he wouldn't elaborate much.
00:45:44In March 1968,
00:45:46Sirhan asked Munir to help him buy a gun.
00:45:48Sirhan said to me that
00:45:50he used to belong to the ROTC
00:45:52program in high school
00:45:54and he wanted to
00:45:56acquire a gun
00:45:58so he could practice.
00:46:00So I made him
00:46:02promise that he'll throw it away
00:46:04after he practiced and I'll see
00:46:06what I could do. While at work
00:46:08I asked one of the fellas there, did he know of
00:46:10a gun that I could buy? He said, yeah, he has one.
00:46:12So I told him to come to the house
00:46:14and that was it.
00:46:16It was history. It was never discussed.
00:46:18It was never...
00:46:20I just forgot about it.
00:46:22I woke up like a normal day.
00:46:24Mother was gone, Adele was asleep.
00:46:26Went to work as normal
00:46:28and I saw my colleagues
00:46:30sitting in the coffee shop.
00:46:32I looked over at the TV and
00:46:34said something to the effect that Bobby Kennedy
00:46:36has been shot.
00:46:38All of a sudden, I saw Sirhan's
00:46:40picture on there. I said, something to the effect
00:46:42that if anyone recognizes this
00:46:44fellow
00:46:46to get in touch with the police.
00:46:48I looked at it once
00:46:50and when I took a closer look
00:46:52I ran down to my superiors
00:46:54and since I didn't have a car at the time
00:46:56I asked if I could borrow his car to run home.
00:46:58Complete shock.
00:47:00Devastation. Shock.
00:47:02When we first saw him
00:47:04in jail, I think Mother and I
00:47:06went up first. When Mother first asked him
00:47:08he says, Mother, I don't remember.
00:47:10I don't know what happened.
00:47:12He says that to this day
00:47:14when you ask him about the
00:47:16particulars of that night
00:47:18he doesn't recall.
00:47:20Munir rejects the idea that Sirhan was
00:47:22the first Arab terrorist.
00:47:24Sitting here, you're in
00:47:26Sirhan's home.
00:47:28If we were sitting here
00:47:30and a fly happened to venture in
00:47:32your reaction
00:47:34or mine would be, grab this fly swatter
00:47:36grab something, kill
00:47:38that fly, get it out of here.
00:47:40Sirhan would open the door
00:47:42and he'd try to
00:47:44pull the fly out and make it
00:47:46go out the door again.
00:47:48Life meant something to him.
00:47:50Especially the things
00:47:52that he went through. We all went through
00:47:54the upheaval
00:47:56in the Middle East and what have you.
00:47:58How many people do you know that will open a door and let a fly
00:48:00out?
00:48:02It's not conceivable to me that the guy
00:48:04would actually take a gun
00:48:06and whether he was five feet
00:48:08away like most people say or eight feet away
00:48:10or an inch away
00:48:12it's just not conceivable to me that he would
00:48:14take a gun and actually use it against a person.
00:48:20He was such an unlikely assassin.
00:48:22He was kind of
00:48:24chicken shit
00:48:26to use an American expression.
00:48:30Example, he worked as a
00:48:32grocery boy in a store in
00:48:34Pasadena and he got very angry with
00:48:36the owner one day and then he said
00:48:38then I called him a god damn
00:48:40son of a bitch and I said
00:48:42did you call him a god damn son of a bitch right to his face?
00:48:44He said no, I said it under my breast
00:48:46so he couldn't hear me.
00:48:48That kind of a guy, it's very unlikely
00:48:50that he's going to be a macho assassin.
00:48:52How does
00:48:54he make that transformation?
00:48:56Sirhan was a highly suggestible
00:48:58young man. He was not an idiot.
00:49:00He was quite intelligent.
00:49:02He was well read. He stuck to the
00:49:04story that he didn't remember killing
00:49:06Robert Kennedy. Kaiser helped bring
00:49:08Grant Cooper into the case as Sirhan's
00:49:10attorney. He was kind of a
00:49:12warm, friendly human being
00:49:14who didn't think
00:49:16along the lines of conspiracies
00:49:18and he didn't have a suspicious
00:49:20mind at all. He pretty much
00:49:22took people at their face value.
00:49:24Mr. Cooper said well he was there and he
00:49:26was there with a gun. There's
00:49:28nothing to do but plead guilty and try to save
00:49:30his life. We were always at odds
00:49:32with the
00:49:34defense team. In fact, Mother
00:49:36used to even write to the judge
00:49:38at night time. She felt that the
00:49:40attorneys weren't doing enough. We had
00:49:42so much eyewitness evidence that
00:49:44Sirhan was indeed the shooter.
00:49:46We kind of took the LAPD's word
00:49:48for it and in the trial
00:49:50that's what Cooper did.
00:49:52His idea was not to make the LAPD
00:49:54look bad. It was to
00:49:56convince the jury that Sirhan did not
00:49:58have the emotional
00:50:00capacity and the mental capacity
00:50:02to meaningfully and maturely
00:50:04reflect on the gravity of his
00:50:06contemplated act. That's language from the law.
00:50:08The law of diminished capacity in California.
00:50:10The diminished capacity
00:50:12defense was based around Sirhan's fall
00:50:14on a horse in 1966.
00:50:16From the people that I talked to that knew him before
00:50:18and that knew him after
00:50:20said he was
00:50:22never quite the same
00:50:24after that. Never quite the same.
00:50:26The psychiatrists were
00:50:28I guess, under Cooper's
00:50:30direction, were trying to show that
00:50:32Sirhan's brain wasn't clicking right.
00:50:34And Parson's favorite expression
00:50:36in regards to Sirhan is, the boy is sick.
00:50:38The boy is sick.
00:50:40Which we thought was a hideous statement.
00:50:42We didn't know that there's a defense that if
00:50:44you weren't in your proper frame of mind at the time
00:50:46that you did something, legally, it could help you.
00:50:48Normally conditioned American
00:50:50who's been trained to
00:50:52kill, then to have no memory
00:50:54of having killed.
00:50:56Sirhan Sirhan was unconscious
00:50:58due to hypnotic programming at the time of the assassination
00:51:00and had no knowledge or memory
00:51:02of what happened or the programming
00:51:04process. Defense psychiatrist
00:51:06Dr. Bernard Diamond used hypnosis
00:51:08to recover Sirhan's memory of the shooting
00:51:10and explore his mental state at the time.
00:51:12Sirhan bought
00:51:14two boxes of .22 caliber bullets
00:51:16at Lock, Stock and Barrel and practiced
00:51:18at a firing range for six hours on the
00:51:20day of the shooting.
00:51:22He bumped into a friend at Bob's Big Boy
00:51:24and challenged him to a game of pool.
00:51:26But his friend cried off and Sirhan drove down
00:51:28to check out the campaign parties at the
00:51:30Ambassador. He wasn't a drinker
00:51:32but that night he had four Tom Collins cocktails
00:51:34and soon started feeling sleepy.
00:51:36One of the problems
00:51:38Dr. Diamond had was that
00:51:40Sirhan couldn't remember the actual
00:51:42shooting of Robert Kennedy.
00:51:44So he put him under hypnosis
00:51:46and had him
00:51:48recreate the night of the assassination.
00:52:08He went back to the hotel
00:52:10in search of coffee and met a girl
00:52:12by a coffee urn.
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