What is the role of PPP in Pakistan's politics? - Arguments Between Experts

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00:00Mr. Mian, you are going to London. Do you think this is a routine check-up or it doesn't matter?
00:06There is nothing much to say or do in their politics.
00:11Neither can they contribute in the Muslim League Moon nor can they do anything in politics.
00:18I think it doesn't matter.
00:20You just saw that he spent a lot of time in Murree.
00:23He was on vacation.
00:24He is not that active in Lahore anyway.
00:28Personally, I think he has resigned to the fact that he has no role in the country.
00:37He has no relevance.
00:39There is no relevance for a party president in Pakistan.
00:42The Prime Minister has everything.
00:44He is in power.
00:45Everyone revolves around him.
00:48I would like to tell you one thing about Mr. Mian.
00:51He is not a person who sits outside and does micro-management.
00:56He would not interfere with the Prime Minister despite the fact that he is his brother.
00:59He would call him and ask him what is happening and why it is not happening.
01:02Really, really.
01:03Even when Shahid Khan was the Prime Minister, he would not interfere.
01:07So, his nature is not to do micro-management.
01:11Now, if you don't want to do micro-management,
01:13the elections have just been held.
01:15He wants to put it behind and enjoy life as such.
01:22There must be a concern that the Muslim League is not getting the approval it should have
01:29and for which they have made sacrifices.
01:31But first, let me object to what you said that there are two big political parties.
01:37I think there is a little injustice with the Peabose Party.
01:40The seats won by the Peabose Party were almost all correct.
01:45There is no competition of the Peabose Party in the interior.
01:48You and I know about the seats won by the Muslim League.
01:53So, in that regard, the Peabose Party is definitely far ahead.
01:57Seriously, I said that the two big political parties matter.
02:00The government and the opposition.
02:03The Peabose Party is hanging right now.
02:05The Peabose Party is neither the government nor the opposition.
02:07Nor is it a part of the government.
02:09But they are the best.
02:11They are the best in this whole thing.
02:13Well, let's see how it plays out.
02:17I think it will always be said that the Peabose Party will benefit or lose politically.
02:23Because people ask for political positions.
02:26That either you are with us if there is inflation, unemployment, difficulties.
02:31Either you stand with us and stand against the government of the time.
02:35Or you are the government of the time and we have to ask you questions.
02:38In neither 3 nor 13, people do not understand these things many times.
02:43How is it possible that the Peabose Party is in the government or not?
02:46Will it be in the best position?
02:49I think it will be decided by time, Mr. Zubair.
02:51It is very difficult to decide today.
02:55But I will come back to this argument.
02:57What do you think, Mr. Mian?
03:00If you were in Mr. Mian's position, what would you think?
03:04I will come to the second question.
03:06What you just said about the Peabose Party.
03:08You gave a very interesting analysis.
03:10Is it there or not?
03:11Mr. Zubair, I will come to the point without insulting you.
03:16They are very much in the power.
03:18Do not spread the confusion that they are not in power and are not a part of the government.
03:22What can be a bigger part of the government than this?
03:24You have 2-4 seats in Punjab.
03:26You have so many people in your assembly.
03:28And I think you do not have much in KP or Balochistan.
03:31Despite this, you have become the president of this country.
03:33You have become the senate chairman.
03:35You have got 2-3 governor postings.
03:37Despite this, you and I debate whether they are in the government or not.
03:41This is their cleverness.
03:43There is a crook in this.
03:45What should I say?
03:47The big thing is that his life is in the hands of the Peabose Party.
03:52If he wants, he can grab his neck.
03:55It is a very interesting point.
03:57If they have confused you, this is their victory.
04:00A top anchor like Kashiw Abasi in a prime time show thinks whether he is in the government or not.
04:05Very bad.
04:07I am sorry. I am a bit disappointed, Kashiw Abasi.
04:09You must accept this.
04:11No. 1.
04:13I am sorry.
04:15The Peabose Party will be very happy to hear you.
04:17Sir, I was saying that they are in the best position.
04:21I believe that they are not in the best position.
04:23Fair enough.
04:25They are running with the hare and hunting with the hounds.
04:27This is not possible.
04:29Absolutely not.
04:31In today's time, people want to know where you are standing.
04:35Whether you are against the government or with the government.
04:37Even if people do not know, it is their success that we are standing with whom.
04:40No. People know.
04:42You said that people should know who they are standing with.
04:45If you agree with my analysis,
04:47I think that if the Peabose Party does this politics, it will be different from Punjab.
04:54What is the reason for that?
04:56What is the reason for that?
04:58After 2008, there was no Punjab.
05:00Kashiw sir, wait a minute.
05:02Kashiw sir, listen to me.
05:04Let me increase this argument.
05:06You can ask questions.
05:08Have you eaten?
05:10Have you eaten?
05:12You are saying that the Peabose Party is not in the system.
05:16They do not know about the system.
05:18They are not running the system.
05:20The whole system is on their head.
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