• 2 months ago
Taxi drivers protest about passengers that have been ranked bad still being allowed to book cabs, about the amount of taxi drivers being given a pass which means the market is saturated and a number of other things.

They say the council should be backing them in their cry for help but feel like they are not being listened too.
Transcript
00:00I have some issues with the council, the Wolverhampton Council. In fact I have some issues with most of the licensing councils around the West Midlands.
00:07To start off with, if you want to operate as a taxi operator here in the West Midlands, you have to go to the council.
00:14And the council will ask for certain terms and conditions that you must meet.
00:18If you meet those terms and conditions, they will issue you an operator's licence.
00:21That means that you can then apply for trade, you know, like Uber, Line 1.
00:28We're saying to the council, look, our safety is an issue.
00:32Because when we report passengers who have either been physical or abusive, that passenger is not terminated on the platform.
00:40What happens is that passenger is disconnected from making the booking with you personally.
00:46They don't block that passenger. That passenger can carry on.
00:50Passengers who join Uber, first-time passengers, everyone is given a five-star rating.
00:56Every time that passenger has an issue with the driver, the driver will rate them low.
01:02So you have passengers on the platform using Uber who've got a rate of 3.4.
01:07Given they start at 5, they get down to 3.4.
01:10That means every driver they come into contact with, they've had an issue with that driver.
01:14They shouldn't be on the platform because they are at risk to the next driver.
01:17That's our safety, OK?
01:19The council should be saying to the operators, OK, these are our drivers.
01:24Part of the safety is you don't have unruly passengers on your platform.
01:28And these are the terms and conditions that we're imposing.
01:31But they don't. It doesn't matter.
01:33So the biggest thing for yourselves, obviously, safety is one thing.
01:35Pay would be another condition as well.
01:37Uber lost a court case where a former union took them to court to be deemed as workers.
01:45We're not employees. We're self-employed, but we're deemed as workers under the legislation.
01:49So Uber were informed by the court case that they had to pay the drivers holiday pay.
01:54That holiday pay comes out of what we're earning.
01:59So for example, previously to the holiday pay, if you took a job and it was £5, you got the £5.
02:05Since they've introduced the holiday pay, which they've had to, since they've introduced the holiday pay for the driver,
02:10that fare is now £4.50.
02:13And £0.50 of that is your holiday pay.
02:15So it makes up £5.
02:17So we're not gaining anything. We're paying our own holiday pay.
02:20Secondly, everyone in this country has witnessed the financial crisis that we're in as a country.
02:27Most people have had a pay increase to try and substantiate the increase on their household bills, etc.
02:36We haven't. As a private hire trade, we haven't.
02:39Our fares have reduced. Since Covid, our fares have reduced.
02:43Making it virtually impossible.
02:45We'll have to pay for our licence, which has gone increased.
02:48Tyres, MOT, fuel, insurance, it's all increased.
02:53But the fares have decreased.
02:55And the reason the fares have decreased is because of the amount of drivers we have out there.
02:59There is no legislation where the council can stop people applying for a licence.
03:06Provided you meet the criteria, they're obliged to give you a licence.
03:12Birmingham, January 1st to 31st May of this year.
03:17Five months this year.
03:19Birmingham Licensing Authority, they issued just under 300 licences.
03:24Just under 300 licences in five months.
03:27Wolverhampton Council, the licensing council, they issued 8,500 licences.
03:34They have issued 8,500 licences.
03:37Now you imagine the effect those drivers are having on the existing drivers.
03:42You can be parked up for two, three, four hours waiting for a job.
03:46And the job will come to you at £4.
03:48But it won't be £4, it'll be £3.60, because 40 pence of that is your holiday pay.
03:53And this is where we're saying we are exploited.
03:55We are exploited.
03:56And the council say, well, it's not our issue because it's with the operator.
04:00It's not with the operator.
04:02It's with the council.
04:03They should set certain conditions.
04:05Whether they can or can't because of the legislation.
04:07Take the legislation to Parliament then, on our behalf.
04:10You know, you are the representative.
04:12You charge us a fee.
04:14And we're representing you.
04:16You're not representing us.
04:17All you do, 8,500 drivers to be recruited.
04:20It's just a money-making scheme.
04:22What's the biggest part of what you want for today is for the council to listen to you?
04:25Absolutely.
04:26And listen to our concerns.
04:29And that's on our behalf.
04:30We don't necessarily need a union charge on our behalf.
04:32The council has a duty to look after us.
04:35That's what the purpose of a council is, is to look after its citizens that it represents.
04:41We are paying the council for the facilities to be licensed.
04:45But they're not looking after the drivers.
04:47We're getting nothing in return for that.
04:49Exploitation by the app operators.
04:51And they say, well, that's fine.
04:53Take it up with them.
04:56Yeah.
04:57How are you doing, Minhaj?
04:58You all right, mate?
04:59I'm all right.
05:00So you're a driver at West Brom?
05:01No, we are.
05:03I live in West Brom.
05:04Yeah.
05:05But we are drivers for ride-share apps like Uber, Sport and Busy.
05:09We work for all those multiple apps.
05:11Got you.
05:12So what's some of the issues you're encountering then?
05:14I mean, is it easy to make a good living as a taxi driver?
05:18Used to be.
05:19Yeah.
05:20Not anymore.
05:21Yeah.
05:23The industry is going backwards.
05:25We have evidence that within our group, there is a driver who has been in the trade for more than 20 years.
05:30He was earning more 20 years ago for the same trip that he is earning today.
05:33Wow.
05:34And that same period, the cost of living, cost of maintaining a vehicle, cost of licensing a vehicle,
05:40ensures everything going up.
05:42And this is the only industry you will find anywhere in UK where your wages go down.
05:48Yeah.
05:49In comparison to going up with inflation and everything.
05:52So, obviously, there's a lot of suffering.
05:55These drivers, instead, should be on the road working.
05:59Yeah.
06:00But they're here today protesting, and they've done possibly so.
06:02And Pete has given us a bit of a rundown on some of the issues.
06:06Are gathering drivers just don't feel that any of their concerns are being listened to by the council at all?
06:12No, absolutely not.
06:13The councils have been ignoring and neglecting and distancing themselves from the real issues.
06:18So, councils have got an easy answer, which is these are issues between you and the operator.
06:23We can't interfere.
06:24But what we are asking the councils to do is not to interfere, but to protect the drivers.
06:29Because just like the drivers, the operators are also accountable to the councils.
06:34So, if the councils were to send out guidelines to these operators,
06:38it is an obligation for the operator to follow the guidelines, take notice.
06:43So, what we want the councils to do is protect their drivers,
06:46not just because they are drivers, but also as a public,
06:48because we are a key section of the society that provide the service to the public.
06:53So, we want the councils to be more respectful for our duties that we do.
06:58And also, we want them to protect us more, instead of just distancing themselves from our issues.
07:04Yeah.
07:05So, if you had a magic wand and you could make the council do, let's say, free things,
07:09what free things would you change in the industry?
07:13Well, we want the legislation to help the councils to raise the minimum fare per mile that we get,
07:18because the black cabs and the taxi, they get £3 minimum fare in these areas,
07:24whereas us drivers, we get less than a pound a mile,
07:28because this industry is not regulated and is not protected.
07:33So, we want a magic wand to give us some protection,
07:36that £3 per mile is considered because it is the cost of driving a car in this area.
07:43So, that would be one.
07:44Second thing would be that we want all the councils to allow us to use bus lane.
07:48Ulba Hamdan already allow us to use bus lane, but the other areas where we go,
07:52we are stuck in traffic, the public are getting stuck.
07:56If they allow us to use bus lane, the public will be able to get to their A to Bs quicker,
08:02and there will be less traffic in those areas as well.
08:04And third thing, we want the councils to help us with the cooperation with the operators,
08:12that there should be a cap on the number of drivers they keep on adding to the platform.
08:16The job isn't there, so there must be a cap on the recruitment,
08:21so that we could make a better living out of this trade.
08:26Yeah, so the market, there's too many drivers, not enough business for them,
08:29so everyone loses out then, yeah?
08:31Yeah, it's oversaturated.
08:33It's just every single corner of the streets, you will see a driver standing there waiting for a job.
08:38At the same time, if you go to Uber office, they are adding about 50 new drivers every single day on the platform.
08:43Ulba Hamdan Council plays a big role behind that,
08:45because they are the largest licensing council in the country, and they give out too many.
08:50And we have one of the proposals with the councils, with Ulba Hamdan specifically,
08:54we want the Ulba Hamdan Council to introduce the mandatory practical driving test.
08:59Because one of the biggest reasons they get applications from all over the country,
09:03including even Glasgow, admittedly, by the councils,
09:05and they think that it's because they're the best, they're the cheapest,
09:08the real truth is, it's because they don't have a practical driving test.
09:12Yeah, so basically you can come here, get your license in Ulba Hamdan by doing a lot less.
09:17It's a lot less stringent.
09:19Well, you can get an Ulba Hamdan license doing absolutely nothing.
09:22You can get one from sitting in front of your computer at your home.

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