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00:00ARI NO YA SHOTEN
00:02The store manager is a manga artist, Shinya Arino.
00:06The vice manager is a voice actor, Kento Ito.
00:09This is ARI NO YA SHOTEN.
00:11ARI NO YA SHOTEN
00:13This is a book store for manga lovers.
00:17If you come here, you may find one of your favorite books.
00:23Today, we have a staff member at ARI NO YA SHOTEN.
00:26I'm looking forward to working with you.
00:28I'm looking forward to working with you.
00:31Hello.
00:33She's here to introduce us to the history of manga.
00:38Today's staff member is NASHIKO MOMOTSUKI, who is a model and a cosplayer,
00:43and also appears in dramas and commercials.
00:47These three people spend their time at the family restaurant late at night.
00:52This is MAKOCHIN ISHIHARA, a manga artist.
00:57What kind of manga did he read to become an adult?
01:00The history of manga.
01:02It's about the same as MAKOCHIN.
01:04It's about the same as MAKOCHIN.
01:06It's about jumping,
01:08and becoming addicted to gorillas in YAMAGA.
01:11Let's take a look.
01:13He met a 5-year-old muscle man.
01:16He decided to become a manga artist at the age of 5.
01:19That's early.
01:21MAKOCHIN, don't you think you'll become a muscle man when you're 5?
01:25That's true.
01:27I don't think I'll become a muscle man.
01:30I admired muscle men,
01:33but I think I'll become a manga artist.
01:36It's amazing to realize that there are people who draw this.
01:40That's true.
01:42When he was in elementary school, he was called a jumper.
01:46He was a jumper.
01:48He was a jumper.
01:50It says here that he started drawing muscle man 2.
01:55Did you draw the sequel without permission?
01:59Yes, I brought it today.
02:01Did you bring it?
02:02Yes.
02:03Muscle man...
02:05That's amazing.
02:072.
02:09That's amazing.
02:11It's like WALABANSHI.
02:13I drew it in class.
02:15It's like MASHIOMIYA.
02:17I drew 50 volumes.
02:19Did you draw 50 volumes?
02:21I drew 80 volumes.
02:2380 volumes?
02:24That's a very popular manga.
02:27I want to see it.
02:29You still have it at home, right?
02:31It's amazing that you still have it.
02:34I don't think I can read it.
02:36I want to know what volume it is.
02:38It's volume 46.
02:40I can't read it.
02:42The title is RAMENMAN SHISU NO MAKI.
02:45You already said it.
02:47You already said it.
02:49You can't say that.
02:51But it's cool.
02:53Really?
02:54I can see your love for muscle man.
02:59That's right.
03:01The details are amazing.
03:03The details are amazing.
03:06The title is not muscle man.
03:09It's RAMURA TWIST.
03:11The title is different.
03:13I think it's volume 3.
03:16I drew anything.
03:18I drew DRAGON BALL.
03:20You drew DRAGON BALL?
03:22I drew HARMON GORILLA.
03:24When you were in junior high school?
03:26It's not a monkey.
03:28It's a gorilla.
03:30The main character is HARMON GORILLA.
03:32HARMON GORILLA.
03:34Let's move on to high school.
03:36It's GORILLAMAN.
03:38I loved GORILLAMAN when I was in high school.
03:42Why did you fall in love with GORILLAMAN?
03:45I think everyone who likes GORILLAMAN is like that.
03:48It's so real that I think it's my high school.
03:52The school is very real.
03:54The atmosphere of the school was just like that.
03:58There are a lot of bad guys.
04:02I'm at the bottom of that.
04:06You're not a bad guy.
04:08I'm the type of person who wants to go to the convenience store as soon as possible.
04:13I drew manga to avoid that.
04:16I drew GORILLAMAN.
04:18I drew YANKEE MANGA.
04:20I showed it to my friends and they liked it.
04:25I drew a lot at that time.
04:27I drew a lot.
04:29I wrote one or two university notes in a week.
04:35I have never exceeded the number of monthly notes at that time.
04:41At that time, SHOTARO ISHINOMORI-SENSEI was the best.
04:47I drew a lot of weekly manga.
04:52I drew a manga that only hits people.
04:55I drew a manga that only hits people.
04:58Is that the title?
05:01I drew the manga that hit me the most.
05:04I drew a manga that only hits people.
05:06Let's move on.
05:08You are 19 years old after graduating from high school.
05:11You made your debut in a magazine called YOUNG MAGAZINE.
05:15You are 19 years old.
05:17Did you decide to do this as soon as you graduated from high school?
05:21No.
05:22I got a job at a factory.
05:29My teacher told me that there was a company that taught art every day.
05:37I wanted to go there.
05:39But when I went there, it was a completely different world.
05:43It was a man's world.
05:44It was a world of craftsmen.
05:46Didn't you teach art?
05:48I didn't teach art at all.
05:50It was a world of watching and learning.
05:53I was scared.
05:55I quit my job three days later.
06:00At that time, I submitted my resignation letter.
06:05I told my teacher that I would be his assistant.
06:09I told him not to contact me anymore.
06:12I told my teacher that I was busy.
06:14I submitted my resignation letter to the post office.
06:16It was a complete lie.
06:19Didn't you go to your teacher?
06:21I didn't go to my teacher at all.
06:22I'm sorry, teacher.
06:24Don't blame yourself.
06:27I quit my job three days later.
06:30My father is also a craftsman.
06:35If you quit your job, your father will be angry with you.
06:38I was wondering what to do.
06:40I thought I had to do something.
06:42I decided to make a manga.
06:45Did you just punch him?
06:48No.
06:49This is a manga called SENTOUZU.
06:54Did you get it?
06:56Yes, I got it.
06:58Did you quit your job because it was annoying?
07:03No, I didn't.
07:06You were writing a lot when you were in high school.
07:10You can take your time.
07:12Young Magazine's EXACTA was soon to be released.
07:18I was asked if I wanted to do it.
07:22It was 24 pages a month.
07:26I was very excited.
07:29Did you write the most in high school?
07:32I had to write with a G-pen.
07:36Did you write it properly when you applied?
07:38Yes, I wrote it with a G-pen and eraser.
07:42It was very difficult.
07:45It's terrible.
07:47You quit your job as a teacher's assistant in one day.
07:50I went to the teacher's office.
07:52That's amazing.
07:54I quit my job in one day.
07:55Why?
07:56I feel sorry for the teacher.
07:58He was a very good teacher.
08:01I asked him to draw a gym for me.
08:05He drew a gym for me.
08:10I thought it was a bread.
08:14It's an appearance.
08:17I felt sorry for him.
08:21I quit my job.
08:23I can't draw a building.
08:25It's a bread.
08:27It's a bread.
08:29Is it the end of your life?
08:31It's a domino.
08:34I drew a domino.
08:36It's amazing.
08:37I drew the bread.
08:40It's a job for one day.
08:43I can't draw a gym.
08:45I drew a bread.
08:47I asked him to draw a bread.
08:50I asked him to draw a picture of Harald Sakkis.
08:54I gave up on improving my drawing skills.
08:59I was 19 years old.
09:01I was 19 years old.
09:03I was in a bad situation.
09:07I gave up on improving my drawing skills.
09:11I was 19 years old.
09:13I was 19 years old.
09:15I was in a bad situation.
09:17I gave up on improving my drawing skills.
09:22At that time, I was told that I had to improve my drawing skills.
09:30I was told that I had to improve my drawing skills.
09:34It's rare to see a real manuscript.
09:37It's a manuscript of Stopper Busujima.
09:40It's a beautiful manuscript.
09:42It's a beautiful manuscript.
09:43I was surprised.
09:44I was surprised.
09:45It's a work of art.
09:46I was surprised.
09:47I was surprised.
09:48I was surprised.
09:51I gave up.
09:55I gave up on improving my drawing skills.
09:57I gave up on improving my drawing skills.
10:03Can you continue to be a cartoonist?
10:06Yes.
10:07Yes.
10:08It's the time of The Simpsons.
10:11It's the time of The Simpsons.
10:12It's the time of The Simpsons.
10:14It's an American animation.
10:16It's the time of The Simpsons.
10:18You decided what you wanted to do.
10:20It's my work.
10:23You are 24 years old.
10:24You promised you would draw three times.
10:29Yes.
10:30Why did you say only three times?
10:32I drew it in an empty space.
10:34I drew it in an empty space.
10:38I drew it in an empty space.
10:44I said only three times.
10:45But you were told all of a sudden, right?
10:46I was told all of a sudden.
10:47So you had to hurry up and write it?
10:48But before that, I had written a few names, so I showed them to the editor.
10:54And the editor was like, well, this isn't good enough.
10:58The editor also compromised.
11:00That's a good thing.
11:02There were exactly three of them.
11:04So you had three copies?
11:06That's right.
11:07And then, there was a lot of people telling me to stop.
11:14They were like, don't put this kind of manga spirit on it.
11:17What's with the background?
11:18Isn't that bread?
11:22There's no background at all.
11:25It's pure white.
11:25It's a pure white manga.
11:27There were a lot of people telling me to stop.
11:31And then, the editor at the time was really surprised by that.
11:37He was like, there's no one who told me to stop this much.
11:41He was like, there's something about this.
11:44But I didn't know what it was.
11:48You didn't know what it was?
11:49I didn't know what it was, but I was like, there's something about this, so why don't I give it a try?
11:54And that's how it became a series.
11:57And it didn't end in three episodes.
11:59It just went on like that for seven years?
12:00That's right.
12:02The editor at the time was Mr. Nagasaki.
12:06He was Mr. Urasawa Naoki's brain.
12:10You've done a lot of original works, haven't you?
12:13He said he didn't know what it was.
12:17But he had a hunch that there was something about it.
12:21I'm very grateful for that.
12:23You're not going to refuse that?
12:25You've been doing this for 20 years.
12:27It's just the right weather for life.
12:30I was already married at the time.
12:36I was a little more mature than I was when I was 19.
12:39I thought I had to do something about this.
12:42You had to get serious about it.
12:45So, in the first half of my 20s, the three of us started.
12:49That's amazing.
12:51Isn't it hard?
12:53You draw every week, right?
12:56It wasn't hard at all.
12:59I've never been stuck on a topic.
13:02You're a genius.
13:05I went to a family restaurant every night from the age of 19 to 24.
13:13I didn't have a job, but I got an offer from a friend.
13:17So I can remember every night and draw.
13:22It wasn't hard at all.
13:25So you've been doing this for eight years.
13:27So you have a lot of real-life experiences.
13:31Yes, I have a lot of real-life experiences.
13:34You have a lot of real-life experiences, don't you?
13:40What kind of manga did Nashiko Momotsuki read to become an adult?
13:46You've drawn a lot of manga.
13:49It's a lot of work.
13:52I can't see the bottom of the page anymore.
13:54I've already selected this.
13:56It's a little annoying to draw.
13:59I thought I was done.
14:01What's this square? Is it a publisher?
14:04It's called Core Comics.
14:06Mother Parasite, Happy Family, Revenge, Rental Mom, Replica, Revenge of Mom, Revenge of the Pig.
14:13The title is amazing.
14:15It's all scary.
14:18Mother Parasite is a story about a child who sacrifices himself for his mother.
14:26It's scary.
14:27Gachi Koi Nen Chaku Juu?
14:29Gachi Koi Nen Chaku Juu is a story about an otaku who falls in love with an online streamer.
14:34Do you like dirty stories?
14:36I like dirty and grotesque stories.
14:39The six people in the cross are very grotesque.
14:41What do you mean by grotesque?
14:43It's a story about a bullied child revenging on a bullied child.
14:48The way of revenge is grotesque.
14:51It's like peeling the skin.
14:53Do you peel the skin?
14:55Do you read the story?
14:57Yes, I do.
14:58What's going to happen next week? What are you going to peel?
15:01How much pain will the next person feel?
15:06I'm getting scared.
15:08But you read the story, right?
15:11Yes, I read it.
15:13Do you keep your balance?
15:14Yes, I keep my balance.
15:15I keep my mind stable.
15:17It's more like a boy's manga than a girl's manga.
15:22I've never read a girl's manga.
15:27When I was in elementary school, I wasn't interested in cute things.
15:31I liked strong and cool things.
15:34So I read a lot of boy's manga.
15:37What about Slumdunk?
15:38During the summer vacation, there was a re-broadcast of the anime.
15:43I thought basketball and Slumdunk were interesting.
15:46At that time, there was a chance to create a new mini basketball club in my hometown.
15:51I thought it was a good opportunity.
15:54I thought Mitsui Hisashi was cool.
15:56I thought 3pt was cool.
15:58So I wanted to be a forward.
16:00But I was short.
16:02So I was forced to play as a guard.
16:04Anyway, I played as a guard in elementary school.
16:08You didn't give up?
16:09No, I didn't give up.
16:12That's great.
16:15I played as a guard until the end.
16:18That's great.
16:20When you were in elementary school, you were interested in Saki and mahjong.
16:24That's right.
16:26From then on, I was interested in cute girls.
16:30Like Hayate.
16:32Like Haruhi Suzumiya.
16:35I was a junior high school student, so I was a little addicted to it.
16:40There was a game called Ribbon.
16:42There was also a game called Future.
16:44I was addicted to that game.
16:47That's cool.
16:49How did you get to know Saki?
16:51I got to know Saki through anime.
16:55It was written in my childhood.
16:57My parents love anime.
16:59So I watched all the new anime in the morning and at night.
17:05You watched all the anime.
17:06That's right.
17:07I watched the first episode with my parents.
17:10And I found out if I should watch the sequel or not.
17:13That's how I got to know Saki.
17:17I see.
17:18I also bought a manga.
17:21I didn't know anything about mahjong at that time.
17:25But now I know how to play it.
17:28Finally.
17:30Now I know what Saki is talking about.
17:34I see.
17:36I didn't know anything about Rinshan Kaihou.
17:39I thought it was amazing.
17:43There are a lot of cute girls.
17:46I feel happy just by looking at them.
17:48Are there a lot of cute girls?
17:49There are a lot.
17:50It's a battle between high school students.
17:53There are many high school girls.
17:56I see.
17:57Let's move on to high school students.
18:00Otaku accelerates.
18:02Otaku accelerates.
18:04I was attracted to beautiful boys like Otome Game and Comic Zero Sam.
18:09I was attracted to Hakuouki.
18:11I was attracted to Toshizo Nijikata.
18:13I started collecting games and goods.
18:15I was attracted to Carnival.
18:17I miss Carnival.
18:18Me, too.
18:20I'm happy.
18:21I'm happy.
18:23I was attracted to Red Prince.
18:25I see.
18:26The direction has changed.
18:28The direction has changed.
18:30I see.
18:31I don't know much about Comic Zero Sam.
18:34I've never seen it.
18:35I think it's better for people who don't know it.
18:38Is it a publisher?
18:40I think it's a comic.
18:41It's like a magazine.
18:44There are many comic books.
18:46I was attracted to Carnival and Red Prince.
18:50I was attracted to them because they looked so good.
18:54I was attracted to them because I bought them.
18:57They are two different worlds.
19:00You are injured.
19:03I like Gareki in volume 2.
19:07I like the name.
19:11Gareki is a bad boy who works as a thief.
19:17A thief?
19:18Yes, a thief.
19:19Gareki meets a man in a mansion where there is no other main character.
19:26I was attracted to that bad boy.
19:30The works of this era were attractive.
19:35The works of this era were attractive.
19:40There were many beautiful works at this time.
19:46I think it's because of this trend that anime and voice actors became popular.
19:53I started to be interested in voice actors when I was in high school.
19:58I didn't watch anime as a voice actor.
20:02I started to watch anime as a voice actor when I was in high school.
20:06Did you start cosplaying at this time?
20:09Yes, I started when I was in the third grade of high school.
20:14I started cosplaying as a new remake when I was in high school.
20:23Did you post it on SNS?
20:25Yes, I posted it on SNS.
20:27But there were only a few hundred people.
20:31When did you start to think that this would be your job?
20:35I didn't want to work at all.
20:39So I got a call from my current office.
20:45If you were Mako, you would definitely refuse, right?
20:49I didn't mean that.
20:51It must have been hard for you to move.
20:53It was hard to move.
20:55I was still in Aichi at that time.
20:57It's hard to move.
20:59Mako, you can find a difficult place right away.
21:03It's hard to move.
21:05That's why you joined the company.
21:07Yes, I joined the company.
21:09I started to work as an actress.
21:14The two people who are connected here are the three people who are connected here.
21:23Why are these two people here today?
21:27Here is the drama.
21:29I can't stand it anymore.
21:34It's hot all over my body.
21:41The guests are coming in.
21:44The Three Omegas are now available on FOD.
21:49And...
22:06It's an incident!
22:10Let's kill time!
22:12In this story, the three of them talk a lot at the family restaurant.
22:16That's all there is to it.
22:18It's small.
22:19It's a live-action movie.
22:23I'll end this family restaurant.
22:27The business is over.
22:29What did you say?
22:30Unknown virus.
22:32Hypnosis?
22:34The Three Omegas
22:39The Three Omegas
22:41It will be released this Friday.
22:50Thank you, Mr. Ishihara and Mr. Momosuke.
22:56How was it?
22:58When I saw Mr. Nashiko, I thought I should read more manga.
23:03Mr. Nashiko loves manga and is a reader.
23:06No one has read this much.
23:08I thought I should read more and study more.
23:14Why are you lying?
23:17You know.
23:21I never read it.
23:28If you want to watch this show again, go to TVer.
23:31The full version is on FOD.

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