Osvaldo de León: "Mi familia es mi tesoro"
El actor posa con su esposa Victoria Camacho y sus hijos Azzul y Olivia, de 7 años, y Leonardo, de 5, y hace balance de esta casi primera década de matrimonio: "Hay mucha gente que no cree en el amor y sí existe".
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00:00A lot of people know that I don't like to put pictures of my family, I don't like to put things of my family.
00:05It's just because of that, because it's my treasure, it's the most important thing that I have.
00:11And you recognize that you have, I know that I have a life, how do you say, in public.
00:18So when everything you have is out there, people know a lot about you, you want to save something for yourself.
00:28You won't see videos of me recording in my house, I feel like that's my private space.
00:35When I get here, I want to disconnect from entertainment.
00:39I know that there are actors, singers who are at home and they're still there, stuck, they're still recording everywhere.
00:48I want to get here and watch a movie and disconnect, and that's what I have in my house.
00:56I have these little treasures that you can see on the screen.
00:59My wife Victoria, I've been married to her for 9 years, this year we turned 9.
01:05Well, that photo is to celebrate the 9 years of marriage.
01:08She was my first treasure, she's still the most important one, after God, obviously.
01:14But then there are these little angels.
01:17And I want to protect them, I want to have them in a showcase and that they don't leave the house.
01:26And look, in two days I'm going to see them, because obviously they're not in the same city as me.
01:31So I'm dying to go see them.
01:33Obviously every day I talk to them by video call.
01:36Because I just mentioned that since I'm an actor and when I play with them, I do get into the role of the characters they ask me to be.
01:46Or the stories I tell them, I also do the voices.
01:49Let's say I tell them a bedtime story and there are 5 characters, each character has a different voice and I start acting.
01:55I can't do it as a mediocre, I can't be mediocre in that.
01:59So they have a lot of fun.
02:02And if my wife tells them a story, they say no.
02:05No, it has to be dad.
02:07It has to be dad, because he's the one who tells them, you know.
02:10So she doesn't tell the stories, they want it to be me.
02:16And it's also a lot of fun, because it's an exercise.
02:18I make up a lot of the stories.
02:20I mix up stories.
02:22From one cartoon I get a character from another.
02:25Sometimes I involve them in the story.
02:27It's a pretty interesting exercise.
02:29I should record myself doing all that.
02:32Very fun.
02:34And that's it.
02:36What I wanted to tell you is that it's the greatest treasure I have, the most valuable thing.
02:41I've seen a lot of couples in the artistic world who separate.
02:44We all know that that exists.
02:46And outside too.
02:48We are living in a time where there are a lot of divorces.
02:51People, there is a lot of ego.
02:54So they get married with ego.
02:57And they get divorced with that ego.
03:00Because the most important thing is the self, the selfishness.
03:03When you get married, you have to die to your old self.
03:07You have to understand that when you get married, you are a flesh.
03:12You are the same person.
03:14And you have to give up.
03:16You have to stop doing a lot of things you used to do.
03:19And the weird thing is that a lot of people don't know that's what's going to make you a better person.
03:23So once the first child comes, you have to reinvent yourself as a father.
03:28Immediately.
03:29Because it's not the same to be a father today, 20, 40, 50 years ago.
03:33There are new challenges.
03:35Also as a husband.
03:37You have to reinvent yourself for the same.
03:39They are different from the challenges that come with technology.
03:43That the cell phone and this and that.
03:46Then they tell me, hey, how do you do it to have that confidence with your wife?
03:52And I tell them, give her the key to your cell phone.
03:55How? I don't know what.
03:56Give her the key to your cell phone.
03:58That nothing owes, nothing fears.
03:59My wife is not checking my cell phone.
04:01But she has the key.
04:02If she could enter, she would.
04:04But you don't know the mental peace there is in that.
04:07Knowing that she is not going to find anything bad there.
04:10We know that some people start to chat and look for things.
04:14Or see pornography or whatever.
04:16All that remains in the history, obviously, of searches.
04:20And if I had all that, she would find it.
04:23But by becoming a better person and not having those things.
04:29Being faithful, that's what I want to get to.
04:33It gives you that peace.
04:35So these 10 years, I've been working a lot on myself.
04:39Since before, since we were dating.
04:41Because when I met her, I came from complicated relationships.
04:47I include myself in that.
04:49It was not only the fault of my partners, but also me.
04:53And when I met her, I remember in the first date.
04:55I told her, you know what? I don't know what's going to happen between us.
04:58But I'm tired of your plans.
05:01And she told me the same thing.
05:03Well, I'm tired of all that too.
05:05And we started dating, knowing that.
05:11Not everyone is prepared for that.
05:15Many people want...
05:18What if someone else arrives?
05:20I remember, I've talked to young people.
05:23They ask me, how do I get out with a girl?
05:25I say, probably that girl or boy will arrive.
05:29And you, because you want to go out more.
05:31To meet more people.
05:33You miss the opportunity.
05:35Right now, it's more difficult to find the ideal partner.
05:39So, you're 30 years old, you're dating.
05:42You want to keep dating.
05:44Then you go out with a boy or a girl.
05:46And that's the ideal person.
05:48And you, because you want to go out with more people.
05:50You miss that opportunity.
05:51And he won't come back.
05:53Then you're 40 and 50, you're single.
05:55And there are many people who say, no, I don't want to get married.
05:57I want to be single.
05:58And then they get to 50 and they would have preferred to get married.
06:03Or have had that person and then regret it.
06:06So, I think that happens to many people.
06:09We meet the ideal person.
06:11To our 30, 35, up to 40.
06:15And you let it pass.
06:17Because you don't want to get bored.
06:19But then you end up more bored later.
06:21So...
06:23It's not advice, maybe, what I'm giving.
06:25But when you find that person, hold on to her.
06:30And that's what happened when I found Vicky, my wife.
06:35Now, I'm going to go back.
06:37And I wouldn't like...
06:39I mean, it's not that I like to talk about my ex-girlfriends.
06:41But I had a very beautiful childhood.
06:44And at 15, I had the opportunity to fall in love with Romeo and Juliet.
06:48And I also recognize that many men didn't have that opportunity.
06:52And then they become like hunters.
06:54Or they broke their hearts.
06:57And they are in revenge, trying to get out with all the women they can.
07:01And the same thing happens to women.
07:03Most women find these hunting men.
07:07And because of those men, they think that we are all the same.
07:11So, it's a vicious cycle.
07:14Because those women don't find that ideal man.
07:16Who is usually the most boring man.
07:18Then they look for these more complicated men.
07:22The bad boy.
07:24And it's a pattern that they are following.
07:27Because that's what they knew in their adolescence.
07:30So, going back to what I was saying.
07:32I had the opportunity to feel a love.
07:34Obviously, it was a love of adolescence.
07:36But that helped me believe in love.
07:41I know that many people don't believe in love.
07:44Because they didn't have that opportunity.
07:46They had relationships that cheated on them.
07:49One after another.
07:51So, maybe what I want to say is that you have to break that pattern.
07:55But to break that pattern, you have to reinvent yourself.
07:59I'm going back to the first thing we talked about.
08:01You have to reinvent yourself as a human being.
08:04And for that, you have to die your old self.
08:07You can't pretend.
08:08They say that madness is pretending to change.
08:12Madness is wanting a different result.
08:17Doing the same things.
08:20Like tripping over the same stone.
08:22They say that's the definition of madness.
08:25So, to stop being crazy, you have to do things differently.
08:29And a lot of people don't want to reinvent themselves.
08:32Because they say, this is me.
08:35This is me is what there is.
08:37This is me.
08:38And they bought that character.
08:41Now, as an actor, it's a character that you created.
08:46And they stay in that character.
08:48In that lie.
08:49It's a lie.
08:50A little lie that you make to yourself.
08:52That's why many philosophers, many psychologists, even the Bible says it.
08:58It's looking for your inner child.
09:01It's real.
09:02You have to go back to your old self.
09:06Because that child was corrupted by all the bad things that happened to him.
09:11And then you're making the wrong decisions.
09:14Because you're not that person you were before.
09:18And you follow yourself, like they say, fat in a slide.
09:24This is who I am.
09:25And if they like it, and if they don't, well, bye.
09:28And then, again, we fall into the trap of the ego.
09:30This is me.
09:31This is me.
09:32I'm not going to stop being me for you.
09:34And then, when they decide to get married, they continue with that mentality.
09:37And then they get married.
09:38No, it's me.
09:39And if it's not my way, then no.
09:41And that's why we have fast food relationships.
09:45It's a fast relationship.
09:46And if it doesn't work, bye.
09:48And that's what's happening in our society.
09:51It was very difficult for me to go back to that.
09:54Goodbye.
09:55Here in entertainment, they believe in the moons and the quarts.
10:02And I had moved away.
10:04But my wife didn't.
10:05My wife was very, very attached.
10:07In fact, I was remembering a while ago that we had like one or two weeks to go out.
10:13And I tell her, what are you going to do on Sunday?
10:15Let's go to the movies.
10:16Well, I don't know about you, but I go to church on Sundays.
10:18I say, okay, okay.
10:20Well, I'm going with you.
10:22It cost me a lot.
10:27Well, I started going out.
10:28I started going.
10:29Obviously, I was nervous.
10:30Oh, my God.
10:31Everyone singing, raising their hands.
10:33And then he sat in front of me.
10:35And I felt observed because I was already kind of known.
10:38And yes, I saw that they recognized me.
10:40And I said, my God, I'm not ready for this.
10:44And it took me a long time.
10:46In fact, I was consciously baptized, which is what Christians do.
10:51As an adult.
10:52Eight years after going to church.
10:54I didn't feel worthy.
10:55I felt like dirt.
10:57Today I understand that it is very important to God in a relationship.
11:05Because it's a bit like I was telling you a while ago.
11:07When you get married, you have to understand that you become a flesh, a person.
11:12And the Christian also what he does is that his old self dies.
11:16In baptism, he is reborn.
11:18He abandons his old traumas and vices and everything else.
11:25So that was a bit of what I started to do.
11:28Because in the end, all that I tell you about arriving and that it costs me and that I feel observed is ego.
11:34If you realize.
11:35Everything is ego, ego, ego.
11:36It's what's happening to me.
11:38When you get closer to God, it's more important than other people.
11:42And well, that's very important for when you have children too.
11:48Because the most important thing then is their upbringing.
11:52So in this journey of getting closer to God and seeing the result of this approach in my children.
12:00It has been very important.
12:01Because now they are like Christian policemen.
12:03If I behave badly or get angry or do something that is kind of negative.
12:11They are there.
12:12They are the first to tell me.
12:13Hey, what's going on with you?
12:15You are moving away or that is not right.
12:17In fact, when I was baptized last week.
12:20I remember that I got angry with something and he told me.
12:22You know what, dad?
12:23Baptism didn't work.
12:24Do you realize?
12:26And it makes me laugh a lot.
12:27Because they are 7 years old, 5 years old and they are correcting me.
12:31And then you go to eat at a restaurant.
12:33You see how your children are well behaved.
12:35Obviously they also do bad things.
12:38But you see how well they behave.
12:42And then you turn to the table next door.
12:44And you see a boy kicking.
12:45And you notice that there is no presence of God.
12:48You notice that there is no care.
12:52And then you know what?
12:54I feel that the other option is not an option.
12:57Because of how society is today.
12:59I feel that many people are approaching spirituality, God.
13:03There is a lot of division.
13:05There is a lot of war.
13:06I think you know this.
13:08There are many things happening everywhere.
13:10The Paris, the Olympics, this and the other.
13:13Now there are singers who no longer hide it.
13:16Satanic things everywhere.
13:18Before it was not so obvious.
13:21So you can believe it or not.
13:24But I think it is very clear what is happening.
13:27You can be an atheist and still have to see it.
13:30It is there.
13:31There is something there that is happening.
13:33So I think the other option of not having God in your heart is no longer an option.
13:39I do want my children to grow up.
13:41And when I'm old, don't throw me into an asylum.
13:46I want them to take care of me.
13:48For example, yesterday I spoke to my mother-in-law and I told her.
13:50Mother-in-law, when you are old, don't worry.
13:53When my children graduate, get married, you come with us.
13:58That comes from a heart that has God.
14:01Nobody wants their mother-in-law in their house.
14:03But my mother-in-law is a love, she is a bread.
14:05We are going to be alone.
14:07So I would like that to happen too.
14:10With a son-in-law or daughter-in-law who tells me.
14:14You know what?
14:15Don't worry, come with us.
14:17We will change your diapers.
14:20Or I don't know.
14:21That I am already very old and that my children want to be with me.
14:25It is an investment.
14:26So I am working for that to happen from now that they are little.
14:31Pay attention to them.
14:33Really play with them.
14:35Many parents, we give them a toy and we abandon them.
14:38And we leave them playing in their room.
14:40So yes, really.
14:42As I told you a while ago.
14:43Play with them.
14:45And make those characters that are asking you to do.
14:48And get involved.
14:50Because that is the biggest investment.
14:52So maybe to summarize a little bit.
14:54They are my treasure, but it is also my biggest investment.
14:57The last project, I finished it in December.
15:00And I was with them for about six months.
15:02I had a movie I made.
15:04Seven days.
15:05So I was there for six months with them.
15:07And that's where I have to spend more time.
15:10Because all the work I do when I'm at home is at home.
15:14On the computer.
15:15And I'm there maybe involved in some project I'm producing.
15:19And I can do everything from home.
15:21So when I'm with them, I'm at 100 with them.
15:25This project I'm doing now with Azteca is four months.
15:30In my head I think like a soldier who has to go to war.
15:35Or an architect who has to build in another city.
15:38These who go to the oil platforms at sea.
15:41Because I have many friends who do that.
15:43And they go like one or two months.
15:45So I have to see it that way.
15:47I try to negotiate with the productions.
15:49That at least one or two weekends a month I can go see them.
15:53And the video calls at night are very important.
15:56That they see you there.
15:58But yes, it's difficult.
16:00It's very difficult.
16:02But there are also times when I'm with them.
16:04As I told you, six months full with them.
16:07Where I take them to school.
16:09I'm helping at home with everything.
16:11Change them.
16:12Bathe them.
16:13All that.
16:14So it's one by one.
16:16I think the power of amazement is very important.
16:19I don't know if it has happened to you.
16:21That sometimes you are in a forest.
16:23You are already 30, 40, 50 years old.
16:26And you have seen thousands of plants and thousands of insects.
16:30But then, I don't know.
16:32Maybe you turn around and see an insect.
16:34And you say.
16:35Wow, what a bizarre insect.
16:37Or when you see the moon.
16:39And suddenly you say.
16:41How incredible.
16:42I had already forgotten how incredible it is.
16:44That there is a stone floating there.
16:47It's called the moon.
16:48Because sometimes we forget.
16:50We forget that.
16:51The power of amazement.
16:54Or you see.
16:55I don't know.
16:56You go to a forest.
16:57And you see a wild horse.
16:59And you are amazed.
17:01The power of amazement.
17:02I think it is very important.
17:04And having that in your relationship.
17:06It is even more important.
17:10Because.
17:12The couple is also changing.
17:15Love is changing.
17:17It changes.
17:18Like the energy they say.
17:19That does not destroy.
17:21It is transmuted.
17:25So it is very important.
17:27To do different things.
17:32In this process of reinventing yourself.
17:34It is very important that every day.
17:37Try to wake up differently.
17:39Because what we do is the same.
17:42You wake up.
17:43From the same side of the bed.
17:45Your shoes are already there.
17:47You do the same.
17:48You brush yourself.
17:49You do the same.
17:50You become ordinary.
17:52Too mundane.
17:54And if you change the process a little.
17:57For example.
17:58I give you an example.
17:59I do a lot of exercise.
18:00I go to the gym.
18:02So.
18:03I'm going to the gym.
18:05Thinking what muscles.
18:06And what devices I'm going to use.
18:08And I remember an interview.
18:09From Arnold Schwarzenegger.
18:10That says.
18:11I sometimes arrive.
18:12And I say.
18:13I'm going to do chest.
18:14But once I start.
18:15I say.
18:16No.
18:17I'm going to do leg.
18:18So what did he do?
18:19Did he break it?
18:20No.
18:21It's not what you want.
18:22And he changed it.
18:23At the last moment.
18:24And that's something.
18:25That I've also tried to do.
18:26With my marriage.
18:27And I do it in the gym.
18:28Sometimes I arrive.
18:29And I say.
18:30I'm going to do leg.
18:31No.
18:32No.
18:33And I try to change.
18:34My order.
18:35Or sometimes.
18:36You're doing weights.
18:37And you're counting.
18:38From one to ten.
18:39Sometimes I change it.
18:40From ten to one.
18:41I do it the other way around.
18:42They are little things.
18:43But.
18:44But they are little things.
18:45That.
18:46If.
18:47If you start it.
18:48From a small thing.
18:49You also start doing it.
18:50In the big thing.
18:51So.
18:52That's what I try to do.
18:53With my wife.
18:54Now.
18:55On Saturday.
18:56I get there.
18:57And we're going to have dinner.
18:58With some friends.
18:59So.
19:00We were choosing.
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19:02Right now.
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19:05We try to go.
19:06To different places.
19:07When we go.
19:08So.
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19:11We try.
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