Sino nga ba ang totoong nagpapatay kay Heneral Luna?! | Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho
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Naging kontrobersyal ang katatapos lang na Historians’ Fair para sa Philippine History Month. Ang manunulat at historyador kasi na si Ambeth Ocampo, ibinunyag na ang totoo raw na nagpapatay kay Heneral Antonio Luna ay hindi si Emilio Aguinaldo, kundi ang ina nito na si Trinidad Famy o Kapitana Teneng?! Ano nga ba ang naging basehan ni Ambeth Ocampo sa pahayag niyang ito?
Ngayong ipinagdiriwang ang National Heroes Day, bigyang linaw natin ang buhay at kamatayan ni Heneral Luna.
Bakit din nga ba mahalaga at napapanahon pa rin itong pag-usapan sa kasalukuyan?
Ang one-on-one interview ni Jessica Soho sa tanyag na historyador na si Ambeth Ocampo, panoorin sa video.
BAYAN KO
Courtesy of José Alejandrino, José Corazón de Jesús, Constancio de Guzmán
Violin and piano cover by Sara Maria Gonzales
'Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho' is GMA Network's highest-rating magazine show. Hosted by the country's most awarded broadcast journalist Jessica Soho, it features stories on food, urban legends, trends, and pop culture. 'KMJS' airs every Sunday, 8:15 PM on GMA Network. Subscribe to youtube.com/gmapublicaffairs for our full episodes. #KMJS
Naging kontrobersyal ang katatapos lang na Historians’ Fair para sa Philippine History Month. Ang manunulat at historyador kasi na si Ambeth Ocampo, ibinunyag na ang totoo raw na nagpapatay kay Heneral Antonio Luna ay hindi si Emilio Aguinaldo, kundi ang ina nito na si Trinidad Famy o Kapitana Teneng?! Ano nga ba ang naging basehan ni Ambeth Ocampo sa pahayag niyang ito?
Ngayong ipinagdiriwang ang National Heroes Day, bigyang linaw natin ang buhay at kamatayan ni Heneral Luna.
Bakit din nga ba mahalaga at napapanahon pa rin itong pag-usapan sa kasalukuyan?
Ang one-on-one interview ni Jessica Soho sa tanyag na historyador na si Ambeth Ocampo, panoorin sa video.
BAYAN KO
Courtesy of José Alejandrino, José Corazón de Jesús, Constancio de Guzmán
Violin and piano cover by Sara Maria Gonzales
'Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho' is GMA Network's highest-rating magazine show. Hosted by the country's most awarded broadcast journalist Jessica Soho, it features stories on food, urban legends, trends, and pop culture. 'KMJS' airs every Sunday, 8:15 PM on GMA Network. Subscribe to youtube.com/gmapublicaffairs for our full episodes. #KMJS
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00:00If our heroes are still alive today, what stories will they tell us about our history?
00:15When you watch the film General Luna, you'll hate Aguinaldo even more.
00:19It became controversial after the historian's fair for the Philippine History Month
00:25was held at the GSIS Museo ng Sining in Pasay, Kamakailan.
00:31In the Q&A, the author and historian, Ambeth Ocampo,
00:36discussed an important detail in our history.
00:41According to his research,
00:44the real killer of the Director of War during the Philippine-American War,
00:53General Antonio Luna, is none other than...
00:59It's not Aguinaldo.
01:01It's Aguinaldo's mother.
01:05Ambeth Ocampo immediately denounced one of the participants in the event,
01:11the local history and culture scholar, Pepe Alas.
01:15What he said is very conclusive.
01:17In my research, I am ready to know who had Antonio Luna killed.
01:21It's not Aguinaldo. It's Aguinaldo's mother.
01:24If there are historians who say otherwise, then the burden of proof is theirs.
01:28They will come out.
01:31What was the basis of Ambeth Ocampo's statement
01:35that the one who killed General Antonio Luna
01:39was not Emilio Aguinaldo,
01:42but the Director, Aguinaldo's own mother, Trinidad Fami,
01:48also known as Captain Teneng.
01:51If Captain Teneng is the promoter of Antonio Luna's death,
01:56it's frustrating.
01:58It's hard to believe that he was not the instigator of the massacre.
02:03Why did it take a long time to rediscover this information?
02:12Now that we have celebrated Philippine History Month and National Heroes Day,
02:18let's clarify the life and death of General Antonio Luna
02:24and why it is still important and timely to talk about it today.
02:31A few days after Ambeth Ocampo released his controversial statement,
02:36I interviewed him.
02:38Ambeth, what is your basis for saying that Aguinaldo's mother
02:42was the one who killed General Antonio Luna?
02:45I have been investigating this for a long time.
02:48Even before the war, it has already come out.
02:50General Antonio Luna, even though he was known for his bravery in fighting,
02:56he had a lot of enemies because of his strict leadership.
03:01Luna was one of those people who believed that
03:05if we are ready to give up, we will not give in to the Americans.
03:09But Pedro Paterno and Felipe Buencamino,
03:13they feel that the country is already poor,
03:16let's talk to the Americans.
03:18They did not agree.
03:20What will I fight? Will I bite them?
03:22He really saw that injustice was happening.
03:25Injustice is not only seen by the enemies,
03:29but also by the Filipinos.
03:32Will I be helped by countrymen like them?
03:35Some of Luna's men were forced to fight in the war.
03:40While some of them lived up to his orders,
03:43he was stripped of his rank.
03:46Why do you have so many uniforms?
03:48Don't you know how to follow orders?
03:51Just like what he did to one of the alleged suspects
03:54in his imprisonment in 1899,
03:57Pedro Hanolino, the captain,
03:59who was an ally of the former president, Emilio Aguinaldo.
04:03Many people were angry with Luna,
04:05they were jealous of her, they didn't like her,
04:08but only a few had a motive to kill.
04:12In this exact place, in Cabanatuan City, Nueva Ecija,
04:16Antonio Luna was arrested on June 5, 1899.
04:21Luna went to this place to help Aguinaldo.
04:28But Luna didn't meet Aguinaldo in his office.
04:32What are you doing here?
04:33One of the people he met there was Felipe Buencamino,
04:37Aguinaldo's secret agent,
04:40whom he first imprisoned.
04:43As you can see, he was there, he was free.
04:46They fought again.
04:47I love the Philippines.
04:49But it's not enough for him to fight or die for it.
04:53Until their defeat,
04:55a gunshot echoed.
05:00When Luna left the commission,
05:02he met Captain Pedro Hanolino,
05:05whom Aguinaldo returned to the service
05:08with other soldiers from Cavite,
05:11who shot him in the head.
05:16He was shot in the head.
05:24He was shot in the head by the Kawit Brigade.
05:29Those who had an autopsy said
05:32he had 31 or 41 wounds.
05:36They were really angry.
05:37It was self-defense.
05:39After Aguinaldo died, they were not investigated.
05:42Because Aguinaldo's men were involved in the assassination of Luna,
05:47he was one of the so-called masterminds of the crime.
05:50It all boils down to command responsibility.
05:53Who is loyal to that?
05:54We remember that the people involved in Luna's death were Cavite Company guards.
05:59But the accusation,
06:01Aguinaldo could be denied until his death.
06:06Meanwhile, in the 2015 historical film, General Luna,
06:10after the General's funeral,
06:12a woman peeked out of the window.
06:16What?
06:17Is that still moving?
06:18It could still be moving.
06:20It's a caring answer.
06:22But the source I read said
06:25she was angry.
06:27Others said that there was a woman
06:29who peeked out of the window.
06:31She was old.
06:32Obviously, she was not Aguinaldo's wife.
06:34But if we look closely,
06:37Aguinaldo's mother was also present at the time of the crime.
06:43Others believe that Trinidad Family could be the mother of Emilio Aguinaldo.
06:50What we did in the film was to make a suggestion.
06:53But we didn't directly imply that he was the one behind it.
06:57In the books we based,
06:59especially The Rise and Fall of Antonio Luna by Vivencio Ose,
07:03it is stated that when Luna was killed,
07:05an old woman peeked out of the window.
07:08Aguinaldo was really close to his mother.
07:12There is a story that even though there was a fight,
07:15Aguinaldo's wife was carrying him in a duyan.
07:18I asked Chudoro Agoncillo,
07:20why is his mother always with him?
07:22He said, you know, his mother needs to be with him
07:25because if the enemy gets your mother,
07:27he will be hostaged to give up his child.
07:30Sometimes there is an element of misogyny or sexism
07:36because the women are not directly in positions of power.
07:40They are the ones manipulating.
07:42But if it is true that Aguinaldo's mother killed the general,
07:49what is her motive?
07:51To me, and this is also what Juan Villamor said,
07:54it's excessive maternal protection.
07:58They reported that Luna was manipulating to replace Aguinaldo.
08:02What's funny is that it doesn't appear in books.
08:06Until Ambev Ocampo's lecture at the History Fair a while ago,
08:11he discussed this fact that according to others,
08:14it is possible that the fate of our history will change.
08:18In my research, I already know who had Antonio Luna killed.
08:22It's not Aguinaldo, it's Aguinaldo's mother.
08:24If you want, you can read only two books,
08:27Vivencio Oset, Chodoro Agoncillo.
08:29The secret in these books,
08:31open the Bible, look at the footnote.
08:34Ambev refers to the footnote from the historian,
08:38Juan Villamor.
08:40Induced by dominant advisors,
08:42especially by women whose affection he could not disregard.
08:46He found out everything.
08:47There are affidavits in front of him.
08:50In front of him, he told stories.
08:52He interviewed all people.
08:55This is the conclusion.
08:56To him, it was Buencamino and his mother who were responsible.
09:00This statement of Ambev Ocampo
09:02reached the descendants of Antonio Luna and Emilio Aguinaldo.
09:08If Captain Teneng is the promoter of the death of Antonio Luna,
09:13it is frustrating.
09:14You have to consider,
09:16the history professors have their own interpretations.
09:20It's hard to believe
09:22that he's not the instigator of the disease.
09:25You even involve your mother.
09:27Even if your mother advised you wrongly,
09:29I hope you don't follow it.
09:30It's still his responsibility.
09:32On a personal level,
09:34they may still not be happy
09:36if the conversation continues.
09:38Especially if in their view,
09:40the information is insufficient
09:42or the picture of their grandfather is not fair.
09:46A lot of us probably grew up thinking
09:48that the one who killed General Luna was Aguinaldo.
09:52Where did the dissonance or inconsistency come from?
09:56If you remember, in school,
09:58we were taught to act on emotion.
10:01Like, what do you feel?
10:03Aguinaldo killed Bonifacio.
10:05Aguinaldo killed Antonio Luna.
10:08But actually, if we look at it,
10:10it's not really a marriage.
10:12He may have ordered it,
10:14but he wasn't involved in both instances.
10:16And what I'm finding out now is
10:19that Quezon is using history
10:22to discredit his political rival
10:26during the election of 1935.
10:29But to be clear,
10:31he has no intention of making this discussion controversial.
10:35This is the answer to a 10-year-old kid
10:38who said,
10:39you know, I like Emilio Jacinto,
10:41but I don't like Aguinaldo
10:43because he killed a lot of people.
10:45My explanation to this kid is,
10:47you know, when you grow up,
10:49you'll study history,
10:51you'll learn a lot,
10:52then you will understand.
10:54So the example I gave,
10:56to those who don't know much,
10:58Aguinaldo's mother,
11:00according to some sources,
11:02was the one who killed him.
11:03It's not common knowledge.
11:04That's also one of the reasons
11:06why I deleted it.
11:08Because, you know,
11:09it's of general public interest.
11:19That's not what Ambez meant.
11:21What I heard was very clear.
11:28The assumption,
11:29that's his mistake.
11:30He should have said first that,
11:32I think,
11:33maybe Trinidad Fami
11:35is responsible for these incidents.
11:37That's where I can accept
11:38that it's a hypothetical.
11:40If there are historians
11:41who say otherwise,
11:42then the burden of proof is theirs.
11:44They will come up with their own.
11:46As for me,
11:47I said what I came up with.
11:50It's just one book.
11:51Agoncillo never made that assertion.
11:54He doesn't believe
11:55in the Nagalaw Pabayan.
11:57The source for that quote
11:58is General Venancio Concepcion,
12:01the general of the revolution.
12:02He wrote that.
12:04I will not willfully
12:06come up with untruths.
12:08Call on teachers
12:09to explore different ways
12:11of teaching history.
12:13We should open up
12:14to different sources,
12:15even formats,
12:16of learning materials.
12:18I already know
12:19who had Antonio Luna killed.
12:21It's not Aguinaldo.
12:22It's Aguinaldo's mother.
12:23It makes people discuss history.
12:26Suddenly, there's a discourse.
12:28For us,
12:29those who study
12:30and teach history,
12:31that's good.
12:32It should be current
12:33and relevant.
12:34The discourse should continue.
12:37If we are to be a country,
12:39we need a radical change.
12:41Brothers and sisters,
12:42we have a bigger fight
12:44than the Americans.
12:45It's ourselves.
12:49All the efforts of heroes
12:52are for the freedom
12:54that we enjoy now.
12:56We will destroy them
12:57because they are mentioned.
12:59But we really don't know
13:00what life is,
13:01what life is,
13:02what it's been through,
13:03what it's been for.
13:07It's a great honor
13:08to fight for our motherland
13:10when we have two minds.
13:11Long live the Philippines!
13:13Long live!