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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:08Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:09I am presenting to you from the Liberty Chowk in Lahore with a special program from Saryam.
00:14The situation is that there is no electricity in our country.
00:19If there is electricity, there is no money to pay the bill.
00:23There is no internet.
00:25There is no justice.
00:27There are so many issues.
00:29There are so many issues that may not be covered in today's program.
00:35But we will talk.
00:37Right now, where we are, this is the most famous market in Lahore.
00:41It is the Liberty Market.
00:43For the past four and a half hours, there has been no electricity.
00:47There are many content creators around me.
00:50We will talk to them.
00:52For the past few days, there has been no internet.
00:55How is that affecting our lives?
00:57Only bills are coming.
00:59Only taxes are coming.
01:01Only curses are coming from us to the rulers.
01:05Let's talk and find out where Pakistan is today.
01:09And what is the situation?
01:11Before we talk to the common people, I have two content creators with me.
01:16I am very happy.
01:17Assalam-o-Alaikum.
01:18Wa-alaikum-as-salam.
01:19How are you?
01:20By the grace of Allah, how are you?
01:21I am fine.
01:22Coincidentally, I met you.
01:23We have made a request.
01:25There are many people who we talk to about online jobs, freelancing.
01:31But there is a large group of people who are creating content.
01:35Are you also affected by the internet?
01:37We are definitely affected.
01:39You have an organization and many people associated with you.
01:42When there is no speed because of the firewall, 4G does not work,
01:45then automatically our audience drops.
01:48When the audience drops, our revenue drops.
01:50When the revenue drops, it automatically affects the remittances.
01:54The third world countries that are growing right now,
01:59they are only growing because of the IT sector.
02:02But our misfortune is that a sector that can make Pakistan successful
02:08is only the IT sector.
02:11Instead of making it easier, we have taken away the internet.
02:17Because of this, many people have been affected.
02:20In Pakistan, the credit was taken that we have received the most remittances.
02:27However, those remittances were not the credit that people sent.
02:31Those remittances were IT, YouTuber, Facebook income.
02:37This was the money that gave us a boost.
02:40The biggest problem is that the internet is not coming.
02:48I think the issue of the internet is secondary.
02:51There is uncertainty.
02:53We don't know when it will be fine.
02:55This is the basic thing.
02:58If someone asks us when the situation in Pakistan will be fine,
03:01the situation in Pakistan will be fine only when it will be useful.
03:05One thing that is very important to do is that
03:08there is no doubt that the situation in the country is very bad.
03:11There are many problems with the internet.
03:13But it should not be propagated.
03:15Right now, there is a group in Pakistan
03:19that shows so much negativity.
03:23It propagates things.
03:25For example, about Fiverr.
03:27Fiverr had a problem for one day.
03:29I myself am saying that this is very wrong.
03:31You should support it.
03:34Fiverr had a problem for one day.
03:36But here it was propagated.
03:38We were robbed.
03:39We were killed.
03:41You were making videos.
03:43The internet was not working.
03:44How were you posting?
03:45I was enjoying.
03:47I came to see you.
03:49Are there problems with the internet?
03:50There are a lot of problems.
03:52The politics that is going on in Pakistan,
03:55they know that all social media is ruined.
03:58There are so many things that people cannot show.
04:03Are you not able to send videos?
04:05No, there are a lot of problems.
04:07How long has this problem been going on?
04:08It has been going on for a long time.
04:09Is there a friend or a friend around you
04:11whose work is due to the internet?
04:13There are a lot of people
04:15who have lost their jobs due to the internet.
04:19When did the electricity go out here?
04:21It went out in the morning.
04:22There is no electricity or internet.
04:25They are sending double bills.
04:29There are a lot of problems.
04:30May Allah make it easy for us.
04:31Do you have any connection with the internet?
04:34No, I don't have any connection with the internet.
04:37The problem is that
04:39all this is happening because of Khan.
04:42The reality has not reached the people.
04:45The people who post on social media,
04:47who tell the truth,
04:48to stop it,
04:49it is being propagated.
04:51Is the rest of your life easy?
04:53Alhamdulillah, it is going well.
04:56May Allah make it easy for us.
04:57What were you creating here?
04:59Sir, we take interviews.
05:01We have to publish it on YouTube on a daily basis.
05:04We are not able to publish it
05:06because there is no internet.
05:08What do you do?
05:09I am a student.
05:11You have come from the UK.
05:13What do you do there?
05:16I am a student.
05:17How do you feel coming here?
05:19There is no electricity.
05:20Are you facing an internet issue?
05:22Yes, a little.
05:23Politicians like Shahbaz Sharif,
05:25all of them.
05:28You have a phone in your hand.
05:30Is it being used because of the internet?
05:32No, no.
05:34Yes, exactly.
05:35We have come here.
05:37The internet is not working.
05:39It is very important for us
05:41that we have to ride.
05:42I can't stay here late at night.
05:43The internet is not working.
05:45Are there problems with online delivery?
05:47Yes.
05:48Do you know what the issue is?
05:50What is going on?
05:51No one knows.
05:53It is going on like this.
05:54Do you know why it is going on?
05:56I have heard about the firewall.
05:58That is why it is going on.
05:59Tell us.
06:00We will know when it will be fixed.
06:02We can't tell you.
06:04Tell us your comment.
06:05If we talk about problems,
06:07you are a medical student.
06:08You can observe things better.
06:11What are the four or five problems in Pakistan
06:13if we have to prioritize?
06:15First of all, poverty.
06:16People do not have jobs.
06:18I am a physics student.
06:19There are so many students.
06:20Every year,
06:21if you look at the semester system,
06:23they are unemployed.
06:25Where can they go?
06:26Other than that,
06:27reference matters a lot.
06:29Wherever you go,
06:30they ask who sent you.
06:31They don't look at our CV.
06:33They look at who sent you.
06:35Who did you come from?
06:36Other than that,
06:37people who are deserving
06:40are suppressed.
06:42Even if they want to do hard work,
06:44they are left behind.
06:45Who will listen to us?
06:46Do you think marriage is a big problem?
06:48Marriage is a problem,
06:49but references are everywhere.
06:52If you bring a reference,
06:54all your work will be done.
06:56Tell us five issues.
06:58If I was born in a politician's family,
07:01there would be no issue for me.
07:03If you were born in a land cruiser,
07:04no one would take you.
07:05I could do anything.
07:06If I was born in a poor family,
07:08everything is an issue for me.
07:09I have quality, education, power,
07:11and confidence,
07:12but that doesn't matter to me.
07:19We are talking about electricity.
07:23You haven't been here for five hours.
07:25What do you feel as a Pakistani?
07:27Peace be upon you.
07:29It is the same in the whole country.
07:31There is a problem of load shedding.
07:32There is a lot of problem with the internet.
07:34The internet is very slow.
07:36There is no emergency call.
07:38It is not happening.
07:39It is not happening at all.
07:41Secondly, I am from the property profession.
07:46There is no work in the country.
07:48Three or four years ago,
07:49there was a lot of work.
07:51Now, there is no work.
07:53We go to the office.
07:55The cost of living is increasing.
07:56The cost of living is increasing.
07:57There is no clientele.
07:58There is nothing.
07:59As you know,
08:00there is no law in Pakistan.
08:02What should we do?
08:03How should we fix things?
08:05We should not lose hope.
08:06We should do better.
08:07We should live in this country.
08:08We can struggle in this.
08:09We will have to come together.
08:11We will have to become one voice.
08:14We should become one voice.
08:16Are your audio notes coming?
08:18Are your photos being downloaded?
08:20No, no.
08:21It is very slow.
08:22Do you know when it will be fixed?
08:24I don't know.
08:25He doesn't know either.
08:26May God make it easy for you.
08:28Tell us about the internet.
08:29Has it affected your life?
08:31A lot.
08:32My business is included in it.
08:34So, the online orders
08:36don't come properly.
08:37If we want to make a delivery,
08:38we don't get the message properly.
08:40They are already on the ground.
08:42Then they get a signal problem.
08:44They can't reach the place.
08:46There are a lot of problems.
08:47We tried a lot.
08:48But we can't do anything.
08:50We don't have the power.
08:51Have the merchants complained?
08:53Have they said anything?
08:54I haven't seen anything like that.
08:56You haven't been told
08:58how long it will take to fix things?
08:59We don't have a platform.
09:00We can't protest.
09:02There is no platform on it.
09:04Are we on the streets for this?
09:06Everything has to be done on the streets.
09:08There should be a positive team.
09:10How long has it been?
09:11It's been a long time.
09:12It's been 4 hours.
09:14How is it?
09:15You are paying taxes.
09:16There is no electricity.
09:17There is no internet.
09:18There is no hope of justice.
09:19What should we do?
09:21Sir, Pakistan's climate is bad.
09:25We see everything.
09:27But you have to fix it.
09:28Of course.
09:29We are trying.
09:31We try to fix it ourselves.
09:34What are we trying to do?
09:36Whatever we have,
09:37I work with clothes.
09:38I try to do whatever I can.
09:40Now it's the government's job
09:42to improve things
09:43so that people can benefit.
09:45Now it's the government's job.
09:47We can't do it at our level.
09:49The internet is such a big issue.
09:51If it was better,
09:52there would be 5G in the world.
09:54Now we are stuck with 3G.
09:55We are not able to run it properly.
09:57We are talking about the internet.
09:59The employment related to the internet,
10:01the merchants,
10:03we think that a common merchant
10:05has nothing to do with the internet.
10:07The business of the internet is badly affected.
10:09But the software houses,
10:11the businesses that rely on the internet,
10:15how are they affected?
10:17Can you talk to some people
10:19who are connected to the internet
10:21or are connected to a business?
10:23Let's talk to them.
10:24Let's see how worried people are
10:26about the non-promotion of the internet.
10:30First, let's clear this up.
10:32A lot of people say that
10:33Wi-Fi is working fine
10:34and everything else is fine.
10:37This is a myth.
10:38Wi-Fi is not working properly.
10:40There is a lot of pressure on Wi-Fi.
10:42The extra effort that is being put in,
10:44is fine.
10:45There is a need for it.
10:46But the country's business is more important.
10:48So, to sustain our economy.
10:50Now, what is the impact?
10:51You see, normally,
10:52if someone has ordered food at home,
10:54when they reach home,
10:55they don't understand the map.
10:57The order is being delayed.
10:58So, all those types of communication,
11:00businesses are relevant to this.
11:02If someone has done their own work at home,
11:04if they have launched a small fashion brand,
11:06if it is a website,
11:07if the internet is slow,
11:08then not everyone has high-end Wi-Fi
11:10or high-end things.
11:12And a lot of people are working on mobile.
11:14There are freelancers,
11:15who are making money.
11:17At least, they are making money.
11:19So, the money they are making,
11:20there is a severe impact on it.
11:23You will find a lot of examples,
11:25who used to work globally,
11:27their work has been stopped.
11:30Because when they say,
11:31my internet is slow,
11:32my internet is slow,
11:33I will give you an answer.
11:34Then they say,
11:35give us an answer.
11:36VPN is already working in this country.
11:38It is not working today.
11:39So much work is done,
11:40because we are not able to do some things.
11:42There is no access in our Central Asian state.
11:44A lot of people work on VPN.
11:46In many countries,
11:47applications are not used.
11:49People work on VPN.
11:50VPN is not being used anymore.
11:52It is a lame excuse.
11:53And,
11:54plus,
11:55if you get a view from a non-expert person,
11:57then you get trolling on it.
11:59People respond.
12:00It is the age of social media.
12:01If you have seen,
12:02the responses that have come lately,
12:03people have added
12:04the qualification of
12:05the tech head of
12:06the neighbouring country.
12:07This is how it is.
12:08Now,
12:09finally,
12:10let me give you an example.
12:11Someone shifted his tech business to Dubai.
12:14And,
12:15he said,
12:16I will work there.
12:17And,
12:18he cannot work in Pakistan,
12:19because of the internet issue.
12:20Now,
12:21such a thing is being exposed.
12:23We always export workers.
12:24We do not export skilled people.
12:26Now,
12:27he cannot hire Pakistanis there,
12:28because they are not skilled.
12:29Who will hire them?
12:30Indians.
12:31The money has gone from the country.
12:32The skill has gone.
12:33Employment has gone from here.
12:34Employment cannot be given abroad.
12:36And,
12:37we come and state that
12:38it is a VPN excuse.
12:39Please,
12:40have a heart.
12:41Let people work.
12:42See,
12:43the effect is severe.
12:44Instead of stopping this,
12:45the government should give
12:46a policy frame.
12:47There is a policy frame in the whole world.
12:49You have to work within it.
12:51If you have an objection,
12:53that someone is finger pointing at me,
12:58then you give a policy,
12:59that you cannot talk about it.
13:01You cannot stop it.
13:03It is people's work.
13:04People will find other ways.
13:05Till now,
13:06there has not been a policy of e-commerce in Pakistan.
13:08Okay?
13:09It is very easy to give a statement on TV.
13:10If you have an objection,
13:11you make a policy.
13:12You have to do this for the framework.
13:13Done.
13:14Then people do not follow.
13:15Individually stop.
13:16So,
13:17please,
13:18go to the policy framework.
13:19Bound people,
13:20that you have to talk about its content.
13:22You will not spoil people's livelihood.
13:25We are getting a figure of 300 million dollars.
13:27It is a hefty amount.
13:28It is a very big chunk,
13:29which people earn.
13:30And people run their homes.
13:32And people,
13:33because many people could not pay their education expenses,
13:36they made this way.
13:37And they run their homes.
13:38They earn money.
13:39Now,
13:40we will stop it.
13:41Then,
13:42robbery will increase.
13:43Then,
13:44the matter will get long.
13:45So,
13:46please avoid this.
13:47And,
13:48stay in the policy framework.
13:49Then,
13:50we will see.
13:51You mentioned neighboring countries,
13:52their IT exports are more than Saudi Arabia's oil exports.
13:53These numbers are present.
13:54Okay?
13:55We will talk about the rest later.
13:56But,
13:57I think,
13:58we have lost the race.
13:59I don't want to be pessimistic.
14:02But,
14:03you should talk to people.
14:04People have come out of this.
14:07That,
14:08it was our country.
14:09We will do this.
14:10Because,
14:11you have built so much pressure economically.
14:12People,
14:13down the line,
14:14there is not much excitement.
14:16Because,
14:17you stop everything daily.
14:18Sometimes,
14:19you do something.
14:20Sometimes,
14:21you do something.
14:22And,
14:23you don't have any logical reason.
14:24Then,
14:25sorry,
14:26I am being harsh.
14:27But,
14:28I don't think so.
14:29Because,
14:30the government has nothing to say.
14:31You say,
14:32we have stopped these 50 people,
14:33because,
14:34they shouldn't do this.
14:35Good.
14:36You have stopped those 5 lakh people,
14:37who were doing some work.
14:38So,
14:39they react.
14:40And then,
14:41they find a way to leave the country.
14:42In front of you,
14:43in this country,
14:442 lakh passports are pending.
14:45Because,
14:46we don't have passport papers.
14:47So,
14:48this is the answer to what you are saying.
14:49What is going to happen next?
14:51We are trying our best to make Pakistan,
14:53Ethiopia.
14:55Neither the rulers,
14:57nor the intellectuals,
14:59without any reason,
15:01our policy makers,
15:05they,
15:06I don't know,
15:08what they want to do with this country.
15:10That,
15:11this country,
15:12their industry,
15:14they have already destroyed.
15:16Agriculture,
15:17they have destroyed.
15:18Now,
15:19one sector,
15:20from which,
15:21there was hope that,
15:22in Pakistan,
15:23millions of dollars,
15:25per day,
15:26they were inducting.
15:28In their economy,
15:29from foreign countries,
15:30they were pulling dollars,
15:32into their country.
15:34They were bringing it.
15:35They,
15:36with the cruelties of the internet,
15:39destroyed that industry as well.
15:42They have completely destroyed it.
15:45In fact,
15:46they have done it.
15:47And,
15:48what a bad effect it has had on our industry,
15:51that our,
15:52millions of dollars,
15:54per day,
15:56our country is suffering a loss.
15:59Millions of dollars.
16:01This,
16:02if we talk about the company,
16:05then the company,
16:07still,
16:08for 10 days,
16:0915 days,
16:1020 days,
16:11can tolerate something.
16:13They can do it.
16:15But,
16:16if we look at the freelancers,
16:17then,
16:18those freelancers,
16:19who,
16:20have to do their assignments daily,
16:23and,
16:24have to upload their assignments daily,
16:27with those people,
16:28there will be a lot of problems.
16:30The big companies,
16:31they all have international clients.
16:32Because,
16:33dollar induction is possible only through international clients.
16:36And,
16:37that IT industry,
16:38is playing its role in Pakistan right now.
16:40They have done such a bad thing,
16:42that,
16:43projects,
16:44all day long,
16:46all night long,
16:47our softwares are stuck on uploading.
16:50But,
16:51unfortunately,
16:53uploading,
16:55and delivering,
16:56is a complete failure.
16:59And,
17:00we are seeing a complete failure right now.
17:03And,
17:04if this continues,
17:05then this industry,
17:06which is a backbone in Pakistan's economy,
17:09according to our politicians,
17:12it is a backbone,
17:14that the spasms of this backbone,
17:18the spasms of the backbones,
17:22of the spasms of the spasms of the backbone,
17:26are being shocked,
17:28they are being failed.
17:31They have,
17:33basically,
17:34on the inter-net system,
17:37have developed such systems,
17:41which has been affected by the slowdown of fiber-optic lines.
17:46Because of those fiber-optic lines,
17:50we are in such a bad situation today
17:53that we have failed to upload even the smallest deliverables of our industry.
17:59And we are not able to do it at all.
18:01We are honored to have Mr. Badshah with us today.
18:14I like him a lot and he creates great content.
18:17Is your business doing well?
18:21Not at all.
18:22Remittance comes to us with all-to-all freelancers.
18:25We have 3 million freelancers in our country.
18:28And 3 million freelancers earn $20 per hour.
18:31In just 15 days, we have lost $500 million to the Pakistani industry.
18:37If this continues, 3 million people will lose their jobs.
18:41If there are 7 people in every house, 2 crore people will be on the streets.
18:45So, in my opinion, you can't put the whole country at stake to suppress one person or one class.
18:52These are the clients that people have achieved with great difficulty.
18:55Today, if the clients are over, people will move to India or Bangladesh.
18:59And people like Mr. Mariam Nawaz say that we are taking IT departments ahead.
19:04You have made students.
19:07Now students are bringing customers with their hard work.
19:09If there is no internet, then their studies are a waste of millions of crores.
19:12So, in my opinion, if the internet does not work,
19:14then we are also YouTubers, we work on digital.
19:16There is a story, it has to get an On The Spot rating.
19:19If the internet is not coming, that rating is written 2 days later.
19:21So, where we have to get $10, there will be $2.
19:24So, this loss is happening to us all the time.
19:26So, Pakistan is suffering more loss.
19:28So, in my opinion, you can't put the whole system at stake to suppress one person or one class.
19:33So, you must be thinking that all people keep in touch with each other.
19:36From somewhere, some source must have sent some news.
19:39Someone must have guessed that the internet will be fine by this day.
19:42Does anyone know about this?
19:43Sir, those who talk to these people among us,
19:47they say that some political people do political posters,
19:51because of which the other party does not like it.
19:53So, in my opinion, either that person will die when he comes to the field,
19:56or he will die when he leaves the field.
19:58This is what happened to people.
20:00Till when will you keep waiting?
20:01Sir, till then, according to me, we freelancers should move on from here.
20:0546% of our youth have already gone abroad.
20:07So, if you come here today, you will only see a shopkeeper.
20:10A shopkeeper sells a suit for Rs. 5000,
20:12and a freelancer gives an assignment of $20-30.
20:15They are also saying that we used to sell for Rs. 5000,
20:17we used to sell more online, that is also not selling.
20:19That's what I am telling you,
20:20they have destroyed the entire country's economy on the Internet.
20:23If you look at the USA, Russia, and India,
20:2760% of their business is online.
20:29Paytm is running there.
20:31If you keep money in your pocket, you can eat papad and chips.
20:34If you keep money here, you can go anywhere.
20:38If you keep the Internet, you can go anywhere.
20:39So, what can we argue about this?
20:41This is fine. Thank you so much, sir.
20:42You are welcome, sir.
20:43Do you live here in Liberty?
20:44Yes, this is my shop.
20:45What do you do?
20:46This is my tailoring shop.
20:47All of you are using the Internet.
20:49What is the situation with the Internet?
20:50The Internet is down here.
20:52The business is mostly online.
20:57Our work is also not online.
20:59We are mostly out-of-country customers.
21:01The Internet is not coming.
21:02The electricity is also not coming.
21:03Absolutely.
21:04What do you do?
21:05We have been praying since morning.
21:06We have been praying.
21:07We have to pray to Allah.
21:08We have to pray to someone.
21:09Because in Pakistan,
21:10since we were born,
21:11we have been seeing a lot of shedding.
21:13A lot of shedding of water,
21:14a lot of shedding of gas,
21:15a lot of shedding of electricity,
21:16a lot of shedding of the Internet.
21:18This is amazing.
21:19We have never heard of this before.
21:20You may not have heard of this before.
21:23I think this has only happened in Pakistan.
21:25Yes, you are right.
21:26So far.
21:27What I am trying to say is that
21:28the government should provide all these things to the people.
21:31The people pay all kinds of taxes.
21:33They pay for everything.
21:34But why are the people not getting the government facilities?
21:38Our question to the courts is that
21:42why are the people not getting the things they are being taxed for?
21:47Is your electricity going on?
21:48No.
21:49The electricity is off.
21:50And there is no business.
21:51There is only work for two days.
21:52Friday and Saturday.
21:53There is no electricity today.
21:54Ten days ago, there was no electricity.
21:55And it was a little bad.
21:57Today, it is the same.
21:58Are you talking about liberty?
21:59Yes.
22:00There is no electricity.
22:01The electricity is off.
22:02There is no business.
22:03As I told you earlier,
22:04there is only work for two days.
22:05Friday and Saturday.
22:06Right.
22:07Other than that, there is no work.
22:08You can go and see how liberty is going on.
22:11Right.
22:12Because the customers are crazy because of the heat.
22:14We are also crazy.
22:15We are out on the streets.
22:16And there is a lot of Meghai.
22:17Yes.
22:18There is a lot of Meghai.
22:19Meghai can finish one joke.
22:21That is the problem.
22:22Right.
22:23Other than that, there is no one.
22:24Right.
22:25They are trying to kill us.
22:26So, tell us about the internet.
22:27What should we do about the internet?
22:28The internet.
22:29What is the problem with the internet?
22:30We are asking the government to run the internet.
22:33The businesses that are closed,
22:35should be run.
22:36No.
22:37The businesses that are closed,
22:38should be run by the government.
22:39So, what do you think in this heat?
22:41There is no electricity.
22:42There is no electricity.
22:43There is no internet.
22:44Yes.
22:45What comes to your mind?
22:46It comes to my mind that
22:47I should shut down the business
22:48and go home.
22:49You should shut down the business.
22:50Yes.
22:51So, we talked to some more people
22:52about the situation of the business.
22:54It is obvious that it is relevant.
22:56Those who belong to the IT sector,
22:58those who own software houses,
23:00or are associated with them,
23:01it is very important.
23:03You should think that
23:04even the street vendors
23:07are affected by the internet.
23:09Even the owner of a small shop
23:10is affected by the internet.
23:12Our sisters and daughters
23:13travel from home.
23:15They use online taxis
23:16and online rides.
23:18They are also affected by it.
23:19And ultimately,
23:20the big businesses
23:21that are affected by the internet,
23:23they are also affected.
23:24Let's talk about it.
23:25The IT industry,
23:27whether it is freelancers,
23:29companies,
23:30individuals,
23:31big companies
23:32or small companies,
23:33we have a direct relationship
23:35with the connectivity of the internet.
23:38We are digital workers.
23:40Okay?
23:41And if you cut off the connectivity
23:44of the internet for us,
23:45then you are cutting off our signal.
23:47Because of this connectivity,
23:50these freelancers,
23:51these companies,
23:52these houses run.
23:54If he is a freelancer,
23:55then he is supporting his family.
23:57If he is a company,
23:58then he is supporting
23:59at least 100 to 200 people,
24:00in fact, more people
24:02directly support him.
24:04So,
24:05the internet being slow
24:07or the internet
24:09not having any kind of access,
24:13this is not a luxury.
24:15This is a necessity.
24:16And without this necessity,
24:18you destroy your industry.
24:21A year ago,
24:22we were at 2.8 billion.
24:24Now we are exceeding
24:273.2 billion.
24:30And if in the next 5 to 10 years,
24:34we want to become an industry
24:36of 25 billion dollars,
24:37then internet,
24:38in fact, I would say
24:39that without a decent
24:40internet connectivity,
24:42this is absolutely possible.
24:44Look, the IT industry of Pakistan,
24:46if I give you a very
24:48reliable estimate according to it,
24:50then we have already taken a loss
24:52of 300 million to 500 million dollars.
24:56There is e-commerce in it,
24:58there are standard digital companies
25:00in it, there are freelancers in it.
25:02But this is a small thing,
25:04if I tell you where the losses
25:06are on monetary value.
25:08The big loss is your reputational loss.
25:11When a big company
25:13or a freelancer
25:16comes to him,
25:18his client says that
25:19I cannot work with you
25:21because in your country
25:22the connectivity of the internet
25:23is not stable.
25:24Whether he was in Fiverr
25:26or whether he was a direct
25:27client of a company.
25:29So that loss,
25:31I think you can only
25:32counter it,
25:33you cannot measure it.
25:34In Pakistan,
25:36Karachi, Lahore,
25:38Islamabad,
25:40apart from these areas,
25:42the small areas,
25:43whether it is South Punjab,
25:44whether it is Gilgit-Baltistan,
25:46whether it is Balochistan,
25:47Interior Sindh,
25:49Interior Punjab,
25:50at any place,
25:52our freelancers
25:53who are sitting,
25:54who are earning
25:55an average of $150 to $700,
25:57their families depend on them.
26:00When you come on this dependency
26:03and make the connectivity
26:04of the internet lose,
26:06then believe me,
26:08you take a family away
26:10from the economy through it.
26:12So you can guess
26:14the depth of this
26:16from here that
26:17what we are doing is
26:18we are killing our own
26:19digital labor.
26:20Yes, absolutely.
26:21The entire field of content creation
26:22is tied to the internet.
26:23I have been deeply affected
26:24by this.
26:25The entire process of
26:26creating content,
26:27all the stages of it,
26:28there are physical difficulties.
26:29And here,
26:30a lot of people give
26:31advice to a lot of people
26:32and a lot of people
26:33act on it
26:34to leave the country
26:35and go abroad.
26:36But we do not even have
26:37this option
26:38because if we go abroad,
26:39if we go abroad from Pakistan
26:40and create content,
26:41then our audience
26:42who are consuming content,
26:43they need the internet
26:44to watch it.
26:45So our audience
26:46is all in Pakistan.
26:47So if we go abroad from Pakistan,
26:48we do not have
26:49any other option.
26:50And this is not
26:51a very good option
26:52but the entire process
26:53of creating content
26:54is also very difficult.
26:55And we,
26:56a lot of people
26:57who have spent
26:584 to 5 years
26:59to earn something
27:00from our channel,
27:01to monetize something
27:02and to run
27:03our circle,
27:04that now
27:05will be
27:06half the viewership.
27:07If in the routine
27:08of any video,
27:09there were
27:10100,000 or 200,000 views,
27:11that has come
27:12down to 50%.
27:13Because obviously
27:14where there are
27:15small WhatsApp
27:16audio notes
27:17that are not
27:18being downloaded,
27:19who will watch
27:20such a big podcast
27:21and who will
27:22watch such
27:23government content?
27:24Who will consume it?
27:25No one has
27:26their own time
27:27and no one
27:28has the speed
27:29of the internet
27:30on this side.
27:31And I am surprised
27:32that the minister
27:33was doing
27:34a press conference
27:35that day
27:36and was telling
27:37in a very
27:38public way
27:39that because of
27:40VPN,
27:41the speed
27:42of the internet
27:43is downloading.
27:44It is a very
27:45stupid joke.
27:46I don't know
27:47why everyone
27:48is taking it
27:49so stupidly.
27:50You can easily
27:51find out
27:52by opening
27:53your own
27:54internet system.
27:55So this is a
27:56very stupid joke.
27:57And here
27:58they should also
27:59have asked
28:00the question
28:01that why are
28:02people using
28:03VPN?
28:04This is also
28:05obviously
28:06from the same
28:07government.
28:08And they
28:09themselves are
28:10announcing
28:11their policy
28:12through
28:13VPN.
28:14This is the
28:15policy.
28:16And firewall
28:17has completely
28:18destroyed
28:19the
28:20internet
28:21system.
28:22And
28:23the
28:24government
28:25has
28:26completely
28:27destroyed
28:28the internet
28:29system.
28:30And
28:31the
28:32government
28:33has
28:34completely
28:35destroyed
28:36the internet
28:37system.
28:38And
28:39the
28:40government
28:41has
28:42completely
28:43destroyed
28:44the
28:45internet
28:46system.
28:47And
28:48the
28:49government
28:50has
28:51completely
28:52destroyed
28:53the
28:54internet
28:55system.
28:56And
28:57the
28:58government
28:59has
29:00completely
29:01destroyed
29:02the
29:03internet
29:04system.
29:05And
29:06the
29:07government
29:08has
29:09completely
29:10destroyed
29:11the
29:12internet
29:13system.
29:14And
29:15the
29:16government
29:17has
29:18completely
29:19destroyed
29:20the
29:21internet
29:22system.
29:23And
29:24the
29:25government
29:26has
29:27completely
29:28destroyed
29:29the
29:30internet
29:31system.
29:32And
29:33the
29:34government
29:35has
29:36completely
29:37destroyed
29:38the
29:39internet
29:40system.
29:41And
29:42the
29:43government
29:44has
29:45completely
29:46destroyed
29:47the
29:48internet
29:49system.
29:50And
29:51the
29:52government
29:53has
29:54completely
29:55destroyed
29:56the
29:57internet
29:58system.
29:59And
30:00the
30:01government
30:02has
30:03completely
30:04destroyed
30:05the
30:06internet
30:07system.
30:08And
30:09the
30:10government
30:11has
30:12completely
30:13destroyed
30:14the
30:15internet
30:16system.
30:17And
30:18the
30:19government
30:20has
30:21completely
30:22destroyed
30:23the
30:24internet
30:25system.
30:26And
30:27the
30:28government
30:29has
30:30completely
30:31destroyed
30:32the
30:33internet
30:34system.
30:35And
30:36the
30:37government
30:38has
30:39completely
30:40destroyed
30:41the
30:42internet
30:43system.
30:44And
30:45the
30:46government
30:47has
30:48completely
30:49destroyed
30:50the
30:51internet
30:52system.
30:53And
30:54the
30:55government
30:56has
30:57completely
30:58destroyed
30:59the
31:00internet
31:01system.
31:02And
31:03the
31:04government
31:05has
31:06completely
31:07destroyed
31:08the
31:09internet
31:10system.
31:11And
31:12the
31:13government
31:14has
31:15completely
31:16destroyed
31:17the
31:18internet
31:19system.
31:20And
31:21the
31:22government
31:23has
31:24completely
31:25destroyed
31:26the
31:27internet
31:28system.
31:29And
31:30the
31:31government
31:32has
31:33completely
31:34destroyed
31:35the
31:36internet
31:37system.
31:38And
31:39the
31:40government
31:41has
31:42completely
31:43destroyed
31:44the
31:45internet
31:46system.
31:47And
31:48the
31:49government
31:50has
31:51completely
31:52destroyed
31:53the
31:54internet
31:55system.
31:56And
31:57the
31:58government
31:59has
32:00completely
32:01destroyed
32:02the
32:03internet
32:04system.
32:05And
32:06the
32:07government
32:08has
32:09completely
32:10destroyed
32:11the
32:12internet
32:13system.
32:14And
32:15the
32:16government
32:17has
32:18completely
32:19destroyed
32:20the
32:21internet
32:22system.
32:23And
32:24the
32:25government
32:26has
32:27completely
32:28destroyed
32:29the
32:30internet
32:31system.
32:32And
32:33the
32:34government
32:35has
32:36completely
32:37destroyed
32:38the
32:39internet
32:40system.
32:41And
32:42the
32:43government
32:44has
32:45completely
32:46destroyed
32:47the
32:48internet
32:49system.
32:50And
32:51the
32:52government
32:53has
32:54completely
32:55destroyed
32:56the
32:57internet
32:58system.
32:59And
33:00the
33:01government
33:02has
33:03completely
33:04destroyed
33:05the
33:06internet
33:07system.
33:08And
33:09the
33:10government
33:11has
33:12completely
33:13destroyed
33:14the
33:15internet
33:16system.
33:17And
33:18the
33:19government
33:20has
33:21completely
33:22destroyed
33:23the
33:24internet
33:25system.
33:26And
33:27the
33:28government
33:29has
33:30completely
33:31destroyed
33:32the
33:33internet
33:34system.
33:35And
33:36the
33:37government
33:38has
33:39completely
33:40destroyed
33:41the
33:42internet
33:43system.
33:44And
33:45the
33:46government
33:47has
33:48completely
33:49destroyed
33:50the
33:51internet
33:52system.
33:53And
33:54the
33:55government
33:56has
33:57completely
33:58destroyed
33:59the
34:00internet
34:01system.
34:02And
34:03the
34:04government
34:05has
34:06completely
34:07destroyed
34:08the
34:09internet
34:10system.
34:11And
34:12the
34:13government
34:14has
34:15completely
34:16destroyed
34:17the
34:18internet
34:19system.
34:20And
34:21the
34:22government
34:23has
34:24completely
34:25destroyed
34:26the
34:27internet
34:28system.
34:29And
34:30the
34:31government
34:32has
34:33completely
34:34destroyed
34:35the
34:36internet
34:37system.
34:38And
34:39the
34:40government
34:41has
34:42completely
34:43destroyed
34:44the
34:45internet
34:46system.
34:47And
34:48the
34:49government
34:50has
34:51completely
34:52destroyed
34:53the
34:54internet
34:55system.
34:56And
34:57the
34:58government
34:59has
35:00completely
35:01destroyed
35:02the
35:03internet
35:04system.
35:05And
35:06the
35:07government
35:08has
35:09completely
35:10destroyed
35:11the
35:12internet
35:13system.
35:14And
35:15the
35:16government
35:17has
35:18completely
35:19destroyed
35:20the
35:21internet
35:22system.
35:23And
35:24the
35:25government
35:26has
35:27completely
35:28destroyed
35:29the
35:30internet
35:31system.
35:32And
35:33the
35:34government
35:35has
35:36completely
35:37destroyed
35:38the
35:39internet
35:40system.
35:41And
35:42the
35:43government
35:44has
35:45completely
35:46destroyed
35:47the
35:48internet
35:49system.
35:50And
35:51the
35:52government
35:53has
35:54completely
35:55destroyed
35:56the
35:57internet
35:58system.
35:59And
36:00the
36:01government
36:02has
36:04completely
36:06destroyed
36:07the
36:09internet
36:10system.
36:11And
36:12the
36:13government
36:14has
36:15completely
36:17destroyed
36:18the
36:19internet
36:20system.

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