"Reserved Seats Kay Asal Haqdar PTI Walay Hen...", Ahmed Bilal Mehboob's Analysis

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00:00The routine is the same since we joined journalism.

00:04I was a part of this newspaper before.

00:06I read Ahmed Bilal Mehboob's column in Dawn.

00:10Test for Fragile Democracy.

00:12This is in front of you.

00:14In this, Mr. Mehboob describes all the incidents.

00:20And especially the case of the special sessions.

00:24How the case started.

00:26He went to the courts.

00:27First Election Commission, High Court.

00:28Then Supreme Court.

00:29Supreme Court's decision came.

00:30After that, a law was passed again.

00:34And Supreme Court and High Court's order was said.

00:36Yes, it has happened.

00:38It doesn't matter.

00:39Election Commission should follow the old law.

00:42And in his concluding remarks,

00:44Mr. Mehboob says that it has become a combustible situation.

00:48It has become an environment.

00:49Such an environment, as they say in Punjabi,

00:52such an environment that there is a need to show the flame of fire.

00:56And the fire will rise.

00:58And this is a lot of weight on the system of Pakistan.

01:02On one hand, the Supreme Court's decision.

01:04And on the other hand, the Parliament is standing.

01:07Thank you very much, Mr. Mehboob.

01:08Sir, now we know everything.

01:12Everything is in front of us.

01:14There has been a lot of debate on this topic.

01:19What is the way forward?

01:21You have said that all the judges will come in September.

01:24Now they will decide whether the law of the Parliament will be implemented

01:29or their majority judgment.

01:31Meanwhile, minority judgment has also come.

01:33And minority judges say that the decision has been made.

01:36This is the law of the law.

01:37There should be no action on it.

01:39Being an experienced, you have done a lot of work on democracy.

01:46So how do we get out of this?

01:49How does this country have to move forward?

01:51Thank you very much, Mr. Govind.

01:54What I am saying now, I am saying it with great difficulty.

01:58And that may be politically incorrect to say.

02:03But the truth should be stated.

02:06The environment of polarization or hostility in our country at the moment.

02:13Both parties feel that they are in danger from each other.

02:18And they feel that their survival is in danger until the other party disappears.

02:25This is the big picture.

02:28The law passing in the Parliament is the matter of the judges.

02:32It is the matter of the court.

02:34These are all the titles.

02:37This is the big picture.

02:39What I have said in that is that the court that comes back,

02:45will it be able to pass the law and the court's decision will be accepted?

02:54Or will it overturn the law passed by the Parliament?

03:00There will be a great confrontation in both cases.

03:05The Supreme Court will have to act on the decision of the Supreme Court.

03:08The Supreme Court will say that there will be an indiscriminate court.

03:10Who will have an indiscriminate court?

03:12The Parliament's indiscriminate court is not possible.

03:15In such circumstances, when the Supreme Court's decision is not followed,

03:20then a situation will arise in which the decision will be followed

03:26which is in the Parliament's bill, in the Parliament's act.

03:30That is, those institutions should be distributed to other people.

03:33The two-thirds majority should be established.

03:36Indiscriminate court should be established.

03:38And the term of the Chief Justice should be determined.

03:42I think that those who may not be accepted by the court,

03:47those who may not be accepted by the public opinion,

03:50those who may not be accepted by the political parties,

03:53then such an atmosphere will arise in which,

03:56which I have called combustible, in which fire can be ignited.

03:59Okay, Mr. Mehboob, if we have to find an amicable solution to this,

04:03then what can it be in your opinion?

04:05That all parties should step back one step at a time.

04:08Obviously, the Supreme Court's decision is in play.

04:10That review petition has already come.

04:12Can the Parliament review it?

04:15I mean, find a solution.

04:17We are the fifth largest democracy in the world.

04:19We are a country of 250 million.

04:21The situation is on our security, on our eastern and western borders.

04:25Can we afford such indiscriminate political action?

04:28God forbid, God forbid, as you have described,

04:32that the situation in the country is completely combustible.

04:36Look, its solution is very simple.

04:39The solution is simple, that these sessions,

04:43the designated sessions,

04:45they are practically and in reality,

04:47and without any doubt, they are of the PTI.

04:51All those people who win,

04:53they win in the name of the PTI,

04:55despite all the opposition and difficulties.

04:58So, these sessions are made by them.

05:00So, I believe that in the spirit of law,

05:03and in the trust of the truth,

05:06these sessions should be given to the PTI,

05:08just like the Supreme Court's decision.

05:10That should be reviewed.

05:12And these sessions should be given to them.

05:14What storm will come out of it?

05:16I mean, the government is not changing anywhere.

05:19Okay, their numbers will increase,

05:21and they will not get a two-third majority.

05:23But a two-third majority, as history shows,

05:25is a very dangerous thing.

05:28The one who gets it, he is destroyed in his power.

05:31So, I believe that if they accept it,

05:33the matter can move forward.

05:35Okay, Ahmed Bilal sahib,

05:37thank you very much for your time.

05:39Hassan Ayyub, this situation has developed,

05:41and it is obvious that

05:43it has to be decided at some level.

05:46We spoke to you the other day,

05:48you also thought that the Supreme Court

05:50should accept the review petition.

05:52And it is a different situation,

05:54a difficult situation.

05:56And to get out of this,

05:58something has to be done.

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