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00:00When did you two meet?
00:03At the start of the year or at the end? No, at the start of the year.
00:07Yeah, this is a really late connection because
00:10Lucky, when did you, you wrote it? So Lucky, the song I wrote in 2019
00:16like the beginning of my
00:19it was my
00:21My pitch, it wasn't really a pitch song, but just my my song
00:25Writing career as like a strict songwriter was about a two-month
00:31time frame and
00:33Within those two months. I wrote Lucky and then very quickly
00:37It somehow went to you. Yeah, and it was a song that I love and I was like, oh, I'm gonna produce this
00:43But I hadn't gone that deep on my album yet, and I didn't just want to make the song to make a song
00:49I knew I wanted to make an album. I was kind of past the single stage
00:53And I think at that time you didn't want to be on it
00:57It was like a time in my career where I was like, I had like four songs out
01:02Fair. At the time. Yeah, I was like, I don't think that I can do this
01:06That's fair. I don't think that I can do it yet
01:09But I loved the song always. I was always like this is a banger. Yeah, it's a banger.
01:14It is a banger.
01:16But that was in 2019 and now we're in 2024
01:20Yeah, sometimes shit just takes a long time.
01:22So then you heard it and you're like, well, we gotta do something with this immediately.
01:26Yeah, I mean, I kind of plan to produce it and I'm really slow
01:30We have never worked together so you don't know this but like it takes me three to five years all the time
01:35I will hear a vocal. I'm like, oh, this is amazing. Give me five years
01:38You know, this is what like this happens
01:41Yeah, and I want things to make sense in context with with whatever else I'm doing in my career
01:45Sort of like when you didn't think it fit in that moment
01:49Right
01:51And then we met at the start of this year
01:56Yeah, and we like hit it off
01:58Yeah, we wanted to write a second verse because that didn't exist yet
02:02There's a lot of other iterations of the song
02:05Yeah, that's right. Yeah
02:06So we kind of met, listened to as much of the album as there was
02:10Because I wanted to make sure you have the idea of what you're putting your name on
02:13Getting yourself a name
02:14And then I feel like we really connected and then you decided you do want to be part of the song
02:19Honestly, in between those years, I've also had other singers sing it
02:24And a part of me was always like, do you know that meme where somebody's like crying?
02:28There's like a mask in front of them
02:30That was me because I knew how much better it is with Remy on it
02:35But Remy didn't want to be on it at that point
02:38So throughout the years, I could take my mask off once you said, yeah, let's do it
02:43Let me be clear. I'm very nice. I'm not a bitch
02:46You are, you're very nice
02:48It just, it took five years, you know?
02:50Yeah, it just took a long time
02:52And yeah, it just came full circle. It was just like the right time for everybody
02:55Today we're going to play for the first time
02:57Yeah, literally
02:59Never rehearsed either
03:00Have not ever been on stage together
03:02No?
03:03Yes
03:04Oh, yes, technically
03:05Sorry, this is where we go full circle
03:07This is Vegas
03:08Yeah, I knew we were going to get to Vegas
03:10I knew we were going to get to Vegas
03:13It was, yeah, we went to Vegas
03:15We had a Vegas night
03:17Yeah, we went to Vegas with him. He invited me and my friends to Vegas
03:22We went, I was like, I'm going to film a quick music video in two hours
03:26Did it, coming out soon as well
03:28Yeah
03:30And then we went to the show
03:34At that point, I was really drunk
03:37And we went to the show
03:39I had just put out my song Cinderella
03:42And you, like, remixed it
03:44I made, like, an edit 30 minutes before takeoff
03:46That's amazing
03:48And I had no idea
03:49Yeah, I asked your manager if I could get, like, the vocals
03:52And I was, like, rushing to make something playable
03:55And I didn't say anything, and I just went
03:57And I started playing it, and I looked at you, and you were just raging
04:01You had no idea it was your song
04:03You didn't even know it was you
04:05And we have a video of it too
04:07You realize, it's like, wait, this is my song
04:10And then I was like, I started, like, walking on the stage out of instinct
04:14And then you gave me a mic
04:16Yeah, I was ready
04:17And I probably sounded like shit
04:18No, you sounded incredible
04:19It was really awesome
04:20So you have worked together
04:22Now I'm starting to realize that we actually, in fact, we have
04:24It just happens
04:25And after that, I was asked, like, randomly
04:29The next week, she's like, so who do you want to work with?
04:32Obviously, like, I'm trying not to say who I'd work with
04:34It's like, and you know, there's amazing artists
04:36It's like, Remy Wolf, and they had no idea either
04:38It's like, would you ever work with Remy Wolf?
04:40Whoa!
04:41Yeah, in an interview
04:42Crazy
04:43Yeah, I mean, that would be amazing
04:45Maybe they didn't see the photo or video of you
04:48Oh
04:49And then in Vegas
04:50Yeah, there was one video
04:51I don't know, oh, maybe
04:52Did we post something?
04:53No, we did Omnia did
04:55Oh, Omnia did
04:56Omnia posted something
04:57Sneaky
04:58So they're gonna be ready for this
04:59They've been waiting
05:00Today?
05:01Yeah
05:02They're performing Black Moon for the first time
05:03And nobody knows about this yet
05:04Yeah
05:05Nobody out there knows about this
05:06I don't even, I barely know
05:08Who knows if they even know who I am?
05:10They're gonna probably know
05:12They're gonna go crazy
05:14What about y'all's connection when you first met?
05:16Were you like, oh, this is gonna be good
05:18Like, something about
05:20I don't know, we just talked for a really, really long time
05:22Yeah
05:23And it was very easy flowing
05:24Yeah, we talked and listened to a lot of music
05:26I feel like sometimes you meet somebody
05:28And you either connect
05:29Or you kind of get the feeling
05:30I'm not gonna connect
05:31Yeah
05:32Right away
05:33And honestly, I didn't even know
05:34Where the session was gonna go
05:35I didn't know if we were just gonna write a verse
05:37And then you're gonna be like, alright, let's find a singer
05:39I'm like, okay
05:40Yeah
05:41Like, I had no clue, no expectations
05:42And I feel like we just had a great time
05:44Listened to amazing music
05:45Yeah
05:46Chatted for a long ass time
05:47Yeah
05:48And then, yeah, connected
05:49Yeah
05:50And then I wrote the verse
05:51And now it's a banger
05:52And now it's a banger
05:53Is there something that you learned from each other
05:55During this process?
05:56Obviously getting to know each other as friends
05:58But about the craft
05:59Is there something that maybe you picked up
06:01That you were like, oh, I really like that
06:03Or I respect that
06:05You're incredibly meticulous
06:07Whoops
06:09I like that
06:10And I'm not
06:11Yeah
06:12We have very different workflows
06:15Yes
06:16Almost opposite
06:17Which I think is complimentary
06:18It is
06:19Yeah
06:20Trust me
06:21Like, I'm a speed demon girly
06:23And I'm like kind of an explosion of energy
06:25And then whatever song happens
06:27Within like the first two or three hours
06:31That's the song, kind of
06:34And then obviously we tweak it a little bit later
06:36But like, you work very differently
06:39Polar opposite
06:40You said five years
06:41And you said two hours
06:42I mean, the first song on my album
06:44I wrote the first song on my album
06:46Nine and a half years ago
06:47Yeah
06:48What?
06:49Wait, that's insane
06:50It's been an intro like in 2013, 2014
06:52For a little bit
06:53And then I brought it back for a year
06:55Sometimes I'll just marinate in something
06:57Like lay in the song for years
07:00I don't know what to do
07:01So you pick it back up and you're like
07:02Oh, I like
07:03Oh yeah
07:04Sometimes I think music has to be in the right context
07:06Like maybe I wrote something that doesn't fit
07:08What I'm doing in my career at the time
07:10But I love it and I want to be a part of it
07:12But just not now
07:13And if you make music that comes from the heart
07:15It is timeless
07:16There's no expiration date
07:17So I don't ever worry about that
07:18Gorgeous
07:19I love that
07:20So deep
07:21That's so true
07:22I don't know what I just said
07:23But I'm going to listen to this
07:24I'll let you know
07:25You might need to loop it or something
07:26How do you like keep your files
07:28If you have all of these things in your mind
07:30Something for 2013
07:32Yeah
07:33Shout out to my manager
07:34Right, okay
07:35Because I will record something
07:37A video or whatever
07:38Send everything to Dave
07:39And then he keeps track of everything I make