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00:00Should states or the federal government control how much pesticide is in food?
00:04We'll show you live at 5.
00:06You can win $32,000 on the turn of a card on Card Sharks!
00:15And if you play your cards right, you can win this beautiful Pontiac Sunbird!
00:21And now, the host of Card Sharks, Bill Rafferty!
00:25Thank you. Thank you all very much.
00:31What a nice looking group that is. Thank you all.
00:33Thank you, Bob Hilton.
00:34Welcome everybody to Card Sharks.
00:36We've been having a lot of fun this week.
00:38We've got a champion who's got over $13,000 in her pocket,
00:41and she's still looking to get a shot at that brand new Pontiac Sunbird that's sitting back there.
00:45Let's not waste any time. Let's get started right now by meeting our lovely dealers.
00:49Here they come right now, Lacey Pemberton and Susanna Williams.
00:52Still trying to take our job.
00:57I know. In another life, I want to come back as a prize lady.
01:00I've already told everybody that.
01:02Let's get started right now. We're going to pick it up with game number two.
01:05Now, let's meet our Card Sharks.
01:11Hi, Jo.
01:12Hi.
01:13Nanny, the ice cream lady from Virginia Beach.
01:16That's Nanny.
01:17She's here with us today.
01:18You've been thinking at all about how much money you have?
01:21Oh, gosh, I just wanted to win a gas stove for my daughter,
01:25and I just didn't realize how much I had really won, and I'm so happy to be here.
01:29I know. I know. It's hard to figure it out when you're doing it,
01:31and it kind of goes by in a rush.
01:33But let me just take a breath right now, because you have, right now,
01:36cash and prizes in your pocket, $13,805.
01:40Ooh!
01:41And well-deserved. Well-deserved.
01:43You worked hard to get them, and you got them.
01:45Here is our challenger, Lyle. Hello, Lyle.
01:47How you doing, Bill?
01:48Introduce yourself, please, sir.
01:49My name's Lyle Knauss, originally from Fort Worth, Texas,
01:52living now on the West Coast, and I am excited about playing this next game.
01:55Yeah, you should be.
01:56If you notice the X in front of Lyle, that doesn't mean he's been convicted of anything.
02:01It means he has one game on his side of the board right now,
02:03and Joe here has got to tie it up in order to just get a chance at going to those money cards.
02:09Let's get started right now.
02:10Susanna's already dealt out the cards, proficient young lass that she is.
02:14And I want to remind everybody about the prize cards in the deck.
02:16Again, we've got a trip to Puerto Vallarta.
02:18Now let's get going right now.
02:19Second game, first question goes to Lyle.
02:22We surveyed 100 single women and we asked them,
02:25has a man ever asked for a lock of your hair as a keepsake?
02:31Then put it on a doll and stuck pins in it right in front of you.
02:35How many single women said a man has asked for a lock of hair?
02:40Well, Bill, I know at home I have this huge pole with locks of women's hair all the way down.
02:45Every color imaginable.
02:48That's not altogether true.
02:51I think men who go that far, they may be of a little stranger persuasion than myself.
02:59I'm going to say it's going to be a pretty low number to get a lock of hair, maybe about 21.
03:0421?
03:05Yeah.
03:06What do you think, Joe?
03:08You know, I never heard of a man asking a person for a lock of their hair,
03:13so I'm going to say it's a little lower.
03:15You're going a little bit lower.
03:16A little lower.
03:17Crowd agrees.
03:19The actual number of single women who said a man has asked for a lock of hair is 13.
03:25It is lower.
03:26It is lower.
03:28All right, Joe, here's your base card.
03:30You got $500.
03:33Price cards, I keep telling you, you got to look for them.
03:35Lacey's going to put $500 on Joe's side of the board.
03:38And here's your base card.
03:39Remember, you can change this if you want.
03:41It is an eight.
03:43Lower.
03:44Lower than an eight is a six.
03:49Higher.
03:50Higher than a six, a jack.
03:52Lower.
03:53Lower than a jack, Puerto Vallarta.
03:59A lot of loot going up on that young lady's side of the board right now.
04:03$500 and that trip to Puerto Vallarta.
04:05Let's go back to where we started.
04:07You got a jack.
04:08Still lower.
04:09Lower than a jack, it is a queen.
04:12The inimitable prize card jinx shows up.
04:15Let's go over here.
04:16We give Lyle.
04:17You get a shot from this card.
04:18You have to play from a seven.
04:20Okay, I'm going to go.
04:22I'm going to say higher, Bill.
04:23Higher than a seven, there's a queen.
04:25Okay, lower, Bill.
04:26Lower than a queen, it is a ten.
04:32I'm going to go ahead and play.
04:33I'm going to say lower than a ten, Bill.
04:35He's going lower than a ten.
04:36It is a four.
04:38Okay, Bill, all the way.
04:40We're going to say higher.
04:41He's going for the gusto.
04:42This is for the match.
04:43Higher than a four, it is.
04:51Well, you did it, Lyle.
04:54Thanks.
04:55Lyle is our new champion.
04:56I'd just like to take a moment here to thank Joe for being a wonderful champion with us all this week and last week.
05:02You got $13,805, and you can go buy your new car now.
05:07All right, Joe, thank you so much for being here.
05:09Bye-bye.
05:10Come on over here, Lyle.
05:11Bye-bye, Bill.
05:14Good luck to you.
05:15You're going to be excellent.
05:16We're going to take a break here, and when we come back, Lyle's going to play the money cards.
05:19Who knows what damage you'll do then?
05:21Stick around.
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05:30I'm not standing in a shadow.
05:31I'm standing next to Lyle, who is a big guy.
05:33There are Suzanne and Lacey.
05:35They're dealing out the money cards right now.
05:36But in addition to all the money that Lyle can win, and if he plays this game right and plays these cards right, he can win $32,000,
05:42we've added a Joker to the deck.
05:44And any time that shows up in the money cards, he's going to have an opportunity to win that brand-new Pontiac Sunbird back there.
05:49Great car that that is.
05:51And because he is the champion, we're going to guarantee him a shot at that car because Suzanne is holding the Joker that we're going to give him.
05:57And right after we're finished with the money cards, we'll go to that.
06:00But let's get started right now.
06:01Let's give Lyle $200.
06:03All right, Lyle, let's do it.
06:05Make some money here, sir.
06:06All righty.
06:07There's a king. $200 on a king.
06:09I'm going to say $150 lower, Bill.
06:12$150 lower than a king.
06:14It is.
06:15Yeah.
06:16$350 on a three.
06:17$300 higher.
06:18$300 higher.
06:19$300 higher.
06:20It is a nine.
06:21Ooh.
06:22$650 on a nine.
06:23Change that card, please.
06:24Yes, sir.
06:25With number one.
06:28All right, that nine now becomes a two.
06:30Ooh, yeah.
06:31And $650 on a two.
06:33$650 higher.
06:34Everything.
06:35$650 higher than a two.
06:37You realize if another two shows up, no win, no loss.
06:39It's a push.
06:40Exactly.
06:41$650 higher than a two.
06:42It is a five.
06:43Way to go.
06:45$1,300.
06:46We're going to give you $400 more now.
06:48Okay.
06:49You have $1,700 on a five.
06:54I'm going to go $700 higher, Bill.
06:57Going to keep the card?
06:58Yes, sir.
06:59Says $700 higher than a five.
07:01It is not.
07:02Ooh.
07:03$1,000 on a deuce.
07:04$1,000 higher.
07:05$1,000 higher than a two.
07:07It is a four.
07:08Yeah.
07:09$2,000 on a four.
07:11Okay, I'm going to go $1,500 higher.
07:16$1,500 higher than a four.
07:18Big bet here.
07:19$1,500 higher than a four.
07:21A nine.
07:24You got $3,500.
07:26You're playing off a nine.
07:27Yes.
07:28Could we change the card, please?
07:32I would like number two.
07:34Number two.
07:35You realize now, Lyle, that you must bet at least $1,750 on this card.
07:40It's a queen.
07:41Yeah.
07:45$2,000 lower.
07:47$2,000 lower than a queen?
07:50It is.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Yeah.
07:55$5,500.
07:56$5,500.
07:58That is just terrific.
08:00Good work.
08:01Come over here.
08:02Stand next to me, Lyle, because Susanna has brought out your Joker,
08:05and I'm going to give that to you, sir,
08:06because that Joker entitles you with a chance to win this brand-new car.
08:10Bob, tell them about it.
08:11All right.
08:12It's a new Pontiac Sunbird SE Coupe,
08:13the road machine that's practical enough to keep your budget from intruding on your fun.
08:17Sunbird SE Coupe, only from Pontiac.
08:20We build excitement.
08:22Back to you, Bill.
08:23Thank you, Bob.
08:24Here we are.
08:26You've got to love a crowd that goes ooh and ah for the car, man.
08:29It's a game-show tradition.
08:30Anyway, Lyle, this is how you do it, sir.
08:33In front of you are seven numbered cards.
08:34Behind one of them is the word car.
08:36You find it with the Joker, and it's all yours.
08:38Go do it.
08:39Okay.
08:40I'm going to go with number one.
08:43Number one?
08:44Number one.
08:45Not a lot of people pick number one, you know.
08:49Any particular reason for that?
08:51Don't ask me.
08:52I don't know.
08:53You don't know.
08:54You just got a feeling that the word car is behind here.
08:57Yeah.
08:58Let's just take a look.
09:00No, it is not.
09:01It is behind number four.
09:04Right over here.
09:05We had it behind number four.
09:06Anyway, you're the champ.
09:07If you win again and you're the champ again, you come back and try it again.
09:10Great.
09:11We'll be right back with a challenger for Lyle right after this.
09:15Let's get started and meet a new challenger right now.
09:17Come on out, Debbie.
09:23Introduce yourself, Debbie.
09:25My name is Debbie Trudeau,
09:27and I'm a registered and certified dental assistant in Glendora,
09:31and I'm a native of Ontario, California.
09:34Ontario, California.
09:35A little south of here.
09:36That's nice to know.
09:37And you've already cut your cards backstage, I hope.
09:39Yes, I did.
09:40Good luck to you.
09:41Oh, check this out.
09:42Prize cards again.
09:43Ladies and gentlemen, a trip to Waikiki.
09:45Over $2,000 worth of vacation there.
09:47Can't beat that.
09:48Yeah.
09:49Let's get started right now.
09:50Susanna's already dealing out the cards.
09:52This is our audience poll question.
09:54We always have a lot of fun here.
09:55We've got ten women from our studio audience who are helping us out this week.
10:03Joe, I'm sorry, Lyle, this question is for you.
10:06Before the show, we asked these ten women,
10:08have you ever been fingerprinted?
10:11How many of these ten women have been fingerprinted?
10:15Boy, that's a tough question.
10:16Now, looking out there, I see one person in the military,
10:19so that would tell me something maybe.
10:22I don't think many people have a reason to get fingerprinted these days.
10:25Maybe I'm going to say two.
10:30Two.
10:31What do you think, Debbie?
10:34Well, they're all really pretty ladies.
10:39They don't look like they have any mug shots.
10:43Today, with all the new jobs and things that women do,
10:48I'm going to say it's just a tad bit higher.
10:50A little bit higher?
10:53I agree with you.
10:54I think it's going to be higher.
10:55I'm going to say, I'm going to go 50-50 deal.
10:57I'll bet five.
10:58I'm going to just say five.
10:59But you say two, you say higher.
11:01The actual number of women who have been fingerprinted is eight.
11:05It is higher.
11:06It is higher.
11:08So who are the ladies who have been fingerprinted?
11:11Oh, look at that.
11:12Let me ask Kathy.
11:13Kathy, why were you fingerprinted?
11:16It was for a job in Key West, the city ordinance.
11:20You needed a security clerk and they had to check you out?
11:22Everyone had to have a permit.
11:25Everybody had to have that permit.
11:26All right, that's what I'm saying.
11:27Sign of the times there.
11:28Thank you so much, ladies.
11:29Have a seat.
11:30Appreciate it.
11:31Debbie, here's your base card.
11:34Let's see how you're doing.
11:35You got an eight.
11:36I want to change that card.
11:37You can change it.
11:38Let's take a look.
11:39Now it becomes a five.
11:40Okay, we'll go higher.
11:42Higher than a five.
11:43It is a king.
11:44We're going to go lower.
11:45Lower than a king.
11:46It's a four.
11:48We're going to go higher.
11:50Higher than a four.
11:51A seven.
11:53We're going to freeze.
11:54Going to freeze on the seven.
11:56Boy, I'm glad you did.
11:58I didn't think you could have lived through that choice if you would have made it.
12:00Anyway, Debbie freezes on the seven, and if she gets this next question right, she can change it.
12:05So let's see what happens.
12:06Debbie, educating guess.
12:08If a person normally weighs exactly 100 pounds, how much would he weigh on the moon?
12:19Kind of strikes me the same way, Debbie, but I had to ask it.
12:23That's the way it is here.
12:24You're weightless on the moon, so you would weigh nothing.
12:31Zero.
12:32Can I say that?
12:33You can say whatever you want.
12:34Zero.
12:35You're going zero.
12:36Lower is a tough choice for you, Lyle, but what do you think?
12:41Well, she's rendered me speechless.
12:44What can I say?
12:46I can only say that it must be higher, maybe, you know, by ounces.
12:50All right.
12:51You're going higher.
12:52It's got to be higher.
12:53Interesting choice.
12:54I don't know.
12:55This is one of those math problems in school that cost you a degree is what this thing is.
12:58The actual weight of a 100-pound person on the moon would be 17 pounds.
13:05It is higher.
13:06It is higher.
13:10Useless information, but we've got to stick around.
13:12I like that idea.
13:13You do like that.
13:14Yeah, I guess you would.
13:15All right.
13:16Let's take a look at this, Lyle.
13:17Here's your card.
13:18Tell me what you want to do, sir.
13:19I'd like to change that card, please, Bill.
13:20Okay.
13:21All right.
13:22The 6 now becomes a 9.
13:23Oh, okay.
13:24I'm going to say lower, Bill.
13:25Lower than a 9, a 7.
13:27Ooh.
13:30I'm going to go higher, Bill.
13:31He's right in the middle here.
13:32He can go either way.
13:33He says higher than a 7.
13:34He did it.
13:35Yeah.
13:36I'm going to go lower, Bill.
13:37Lower than a queen, a 10.
13:40I'm going to go lower.
13:41He's going for it.
13:42I'm going to go higher.
13:43Team number 1, no.
13:44Oh.
13:45Oh.
13:46Ooh, what a long trip this is, all the way back to that 9.
13:50And, Debbie, you're going to get a free shot, and you get it off the 7.
13:53I'm going to go higher.
13:54She says higher than a 7.
13:56If she's right, she's got one game on her side of the board.
13:58It is not.
13:59It is not.
14:00That is how it goes when the cards don't work out.
14:03Let's go on to our next question.
14:05This one is for Lyle.
14:06We surveyed 100 happily married men, and we asked them,
14:11have you ever had an affair?
14:15Maybe that's why they're happy.
14:16No, I don't want to get into that.
14:17How many married men admitted they have?
14:21Boy, that's a tough question.
14:22Now, if I were married, I certainly wouldn't have an affair.
14:27I know that.
14:28But, boy, I think there are a lot of people out there.
14:31Listen to those guys.
14:33I think there are a lot of people out there that probably do, and on the fly, too.
14:37Now, however, to admit it, I'm going to say it's probably going to be about 38.
14:42About 38?
14:43Yeah, about 38.
14:44I think that on the fly is the key.
14:46You wouldn't want to say, honey, I'm going out with some milk and my affair right now.
14:50I'll be back in about 20 minutes.
14:52You're going 38.
14:54Debbie, what do you think, higher or lower?
14:56Well, I'm going to say they're happily married.
15:01I'm going to say lower.
15:05Yeah, I'm going to go lower.
15:06My first husband, you could ask him that question, but he would give you a good story.
15:12Now, I think lower.
15:13Lower than 38.
15:14The actual number of happily married men who have had an affair is 18.
15:18It is lower.
15:19It is lower.
15:22All right, Debbie, here's your chance.
15:25I'm going to go higher.
15:26Well, you can change it if you want.
15:27Oh, I can change it?
15:28Yes, yes.
15:29Oh, I'm going to change it.
15:30All right, thank you.
15:31Got us all nervous in the studio here.
15:33All right, that 7 now becomes that 6.
15:38It's on the side of the board right now.
15:40Lacey's putting it up for Debbie.
15:42Let's change this back right now.
15:44You've got a 7.
15:45You want to change it to a king.
15:47Oh, lower.
15:49Lower than a king for game number one and one step closer to Hawaii.
15:53No.
15:58Amazing.
15:59That is amazing.
16:00That is amazing.
16:02All right, Lyle, you've got the 9, and you can get a free shot from me.
16:04Okay, well, I'm going to go lower, Bill.
16:06Lower than a 9, it is a queen.
16:08Boy.
16:09Boy, you ever get the idea you wanted to burn a deck of cards?
16:12We're going to be right back with Sudden Death right after this.
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16:23Here we are.
16:24We're back, everybody.
16:25Listen, I want to remind all our young people in the audience that if you would like to be a contestant here on Card Sharks
16:31and you are between the ages of 11 and 14, here is Lacey to tell you how to do it.
16:36Thanks, Bill.
16:38Just send a postcard with your telephone number to Young Contestants,
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16:52Back to you, Bill.
16:53Thank you, Lacey.
16:54Nice to be back, too.
16:55Here we are.
16:56We have, this is Sudden Death, guys, so pay attention right here.
16:59Somebody must win the game on this play of the cards.
17:01Control of the board is the whole key right here.
17:03This question is for you, Debbie, and this is our audience poll question.
17:06We have ten women from our studio audience who are having a lot of fun with us.
17:13Listen up.
17:14Debbie, before the show, we ask these ten women, have you ever written a fan letter to a movie star?
17:20How many of these ten women have written a fan letter to a movie star?
17:25I think sometime in their life they had to have.
17:28Come on, girls.
17:29I know it.
17:30I mean, I know I have.
17:32Maybe when I was a teenager, and I'm sure they did.
17:35So I'm going to say about five of them.
17:39Five.
17:40Right in the middle, right in the fence.
17:41What do you think, Lyle?
17:42Bill, I think it's going to be just a little lower than that.
17:44A little bit lower?
17:45Yeah, yeah, I think so.
17:47I'm going to go higher.
17:48I'm going to say it's about eight.
17:50The actual number of these women who have written a fan letter to a movie star
17:54is four.
17:55It is not higher, it is lower.
17:57Interesting.
17:58I thought it would be higher.
17:59Who are the four ladies who have written?
18:01Ah, there's Rosalind, and Betty, and Sherry, and Terry.
18:04Terry, who did you write to?
18:05Who's your star?
18:06When I was 16, I saw Louis Jourdan in A Letter from an Unknown Woman.
18:10Ooh.
18:11And he was gorgeous.
18:12Yeah, he always still is.
18:13And I wrote him the letter.
18:14He was tall, dark, and French, and I loved him.
18:18Loved him.
18:19You're getting pretty excited already, Terry.
18:21You're getting pretty excited already, Terry.
18:22You know that?
18:23Yeah.
18:24You better go home and write Louis again.
18:25I think you should do that.
18:26Yeah.
18:27Okay, thank you so much.
18:28Have a seat, ladies.
18:29Yeah, Louis Jourdan.
18:30Handsome guy.
18:31All right.
18:32Let's take a look at what we have to do right now, Lyle.
18:35You can change this card to play on, or you can force Debbie to play off an excellent card.
18:41What do you want to do, play or pass?
18:42I'm going to play, and I want to change that card, please.
18:45All right, I think you made the right choice.
18:47All right, he's going to change that nine.
18:48That nine now becomes a five.
18:50Excellent.
18:51Okay, Bill, I'm going to say higher.
18:52Higher than a five, sir.
18:53Sudden death is an ace.
18:55Lower.
18:56Lower than an ace.
18:57It is $500.
18:58Yeah.
18:59Yeah.
19:00For the prize card.
19:01Right up on Lyle.
19:02Lacey's putting that up right now.
19:03There's the ace.
19:04Again, we're calling.
19:05Again, lower.
19:06Lower than an ace.
19:07It is a seven.
19:08Tough call.
19:09I'm going to go ahead and play, and I'm going to say higher, Bill.
19:12You have to.
19:13You don't have much choice.
19:14I've got to play.
19:15Every turn of the card here means the game.
19:16Higher than a seven.
19:17Higher than a seven.
19:18It is a deuce, and that means that Debbie did it.
19:19Debbie's won the game.
19:20Oh, congratulations to Debbie.
19:21She's got one game on her side of the board.
19:22We'll be right back with more Card Shocks right after this.
19:27Put your sweet lips a little closer to the phone.
19:31I'm in my endgame position right now.
19:38We really don't have enough time to continue on.
19:47to continue on. Interesting scenarios taking place. Debbie, our challenger, has one game on her side
19:51of the board and that was how Lyle came on to win the championship when he was here. Anyway,
19:56we're going to pick it all up tomorrow from where we left off. There's Susanna, there's Lacey, Bob
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