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00:00This programme contains strong language and adult humour.
00:04APPLAUSE
00:31Good afternoon and welcome to the Countdown studio.
00:34I heard an extraordinary story recently.
00:37It came out of the Philippines.
00:39It involved a fisherman who struggled and strained
00:42and dragged onto his boat this enormous thing.
00:45It weighed 32kg and he sort of looked at it.
00:49He wasn't altogether sure what it was,
00:51but he stuffed it underneath the bed.
00:53Had it been a pearl, it was so enormous,
00:55apparently it would have been worth £75 million.
00:58Anyway, he popped it underneath the bed
01:00and then dragged it out ten years later
01:03and gave it to the local museum.
01:06The local city hall actually put it on display.
01:09It turned out it was a pearl.
01:11Extraordinary. So there it is, the city hall.
01:14If you fancy, you know...
01:16Let me just tell you, it's 67cm long. Extraordinary.
01:20What could you do with a 67cm pearl?
01:23Good question. You give it to the local city hall.
01:26Who would have £75 million knocking around
01:29just in case that ever was for sale?
01:32Actually, Rachel, no, come on, there are nutters out there
01:36who, in order to get the oldest, biggest...
01:40There's so much dodgy money floating around the world these days
01:45and to own the biggest pearl the world has ever seen,
01:48somebody would do it just to have it, I think.
01:50OK, fair enough.
01:52Now then, Rachel, we've got Doug Roberts back.
01:54Doug, of course, is the child's entertainer from Somthing in Worthing.
01:58Welcome back, Doug.
02:01And you beat Amber, smashing player.
02:03She was very good player.
02:05But you got there, well done.
02:07And you're up against Kevin Stokes. Welcome, Kevin.
02:09Hello, Nick.
02:10From Portsmouth, runs a media production company.
02:14This is sort of films and videos?
02:17Yes, it's corporate sales conferences, promotional videos,
02:20award ceremonies, that sort of thing.
02:22It's a great fun, fast-moving world.
02:24Yeah, it's a great world, yeah.
02:26And also you like a bit of a challenge.
02:28You abseiled down the Spinnaker Tower in Portsmouth.
02:31I did.
02:32For charity?
02:33I did, yes, I did it for the motor neurone disease charity.
02:36Good man.
02:37300 feet.
02:38Whoa.
02:39And it took nine minutes.
02:40Did it?
02:41Yeah.
02:42I'm surprised it didn't take shorter, you're quite a big, heavy fellow.
02:45But there we are.
02:46Now then, let's have a big round of applause then
02:48for Kevin and Doug Roberts.
02:50APPLAUSE
02:53And over in the corner then, of course, Susie Dent,
02:58and lawyer, TV personality, historian, classicist,
03:02my good friend Margaret Manford.
03:04Welcome back, Margaret.
03:06Welcome back.
03:07Now then, Doug Roberts, let's have a letters game out of you.
03:11OK, good afternoon, Rachel.
03:12Good afternoon, Doug.
03:13Can we start with a consonant, please?
03:15Thank you. Start today with C.
03:17And another consonant?
03:19D.
03:20One more.
03:23P.
03:24And a vowel?
03:25O.
03:26One more vowel?
03:27I.
03:28Another vowel?
03:30U.
03:31A consonant?
03:33R.
03:35Another vowel?
03:37E.
03:38And a final consonant, please?
03:40And a final N.
03:43And the countdown clock starts now.
03:45CLOCK TICKS
04:16Yes, Doug?
04:18Eight.
04:19Eight. And Kevin?
04:20A six.
04:21And your six?
04:22Pawed.
04:23Pawed. And the pirate?
04:25Uncopied.
04:27Um...
04:30Not there.
04:32Oh, I'm really sorry.
04:34Bad luck.
04:35Sorry.
04:36Bad luck indeed. So it's a good start for Kevin there.
04:38Now, in the corner, Margaret and Susie,
04:40what have you dredged out of that?
04:43Well, there's unpriced. Is that a word?
04:46It is. That's where it seems very unfair.
04:48Sorry, Doug.
04:50Yes, unpriced is there.
04:52That would give you an eight.
04:54And pounder for seven, otherwise.
04:56And a pounder.
04:57Yeah.
04:58OK, thank you, thank you.
04:59Well done, Margaret, and it's Kevin's letters game.
05:01Hello, Rachel.
05:02Hi, Kevin.
05:03Can I start with a consonant, please?
05:05Thank you. Start with G.
05:07And another?
05:10K.
05:11And another?
05:14R.
05:15And a vowel, please?
05:17I.
05:18And another vowel?
05:20A.
05:21And one more?
05:24E.
05:25And a consonant?
05:27T.
05:29And another consonant?
05:31P.
05:32And a final vowel, please?
05:34And a final I.
05:37Countdown.
05:44MUSIC CONTINUES
06:10Kevin.
06:11A six.
06:12A six.
06:13Doug?
06:14A six.
06:16Kevin?
06:17Um, pirate.
06:19Have we got two pirates, though, by any chance?
06:22We certainly have.
06:23We have. We've only got four pirates.
06:25R.
06:26R.
06:27R, indeed.
06:28Margaret?
06:29Yes, another pirate here.
06:31Well done.
06:32And Susie?
06:33Yeah, we're here too.
06:35You can also have parkie for a park keeper.
06:37No-one dresses as a park keeper, unfortunately.
06:39But, yeah, just sixes.
06:41Well done.
06:42So it's 12 points to Kevin, Doug on six,
06:44and it's Doug's numbers game.
06:46Go, Doug.
06:47Can I have six more, please, Rachel?
06:49You can indeed, thank you, Doug. Six little numbers coming up.
06:52And for the first time today, they are six, seven, six,
06:57nine, four and two.
07:02And the target, 281.
07:04281.
07:05MUSIC PLAYS
07:12MUSIC CONTINUES
07:37Yes, Doug?
07:39274.
07:41274.
07:44And Kevin?
07:45Not even close, I'm afraid.
07:47No. Let's go, Doug.
07:49OK, I've got seven times nine.
07:52Seven times nine, 63.
07:54Times four.
07:55Times four is 252.
07:58And then six plus six.
08:00Six plus six, 12.
08:02Times two.
08:03Times two is 24.
08:05276.
08:07Did you declare 274?
08:09I declared 274, didn't I?
08:11You were closer than you thought.
08:13Unlucky. Bad luck.
08:15281, then.
08:17Rachel?
08:19Yes, it was there.
08:20If you say two plus six is eight.
08:23Times four is 32.
08:26Times nine is 288.
08:28And take away the seven, 281.
08:30Oh, well done. Thank you, Rachel.
08:32APPLAUSE
08:34Well done.
08:36Doug on six and Kevin on 12,
08:38we return to our first Tea Time teaser, which is Tear Flow.
08:41And the clue, might this be the dog's best friend in the garden?
08:45Might this be the dog's best friend in the garden?
08:57APPLAUSE
08:59APPLAUSE
09:05A warm welcome back.
09:06I left with a clue.
09:08Might this be a dog's best friend in the garden?
09:11And the answer is flea wort.
09:16What is flea wort, Susie?
09:18It's a Eurasian plant and it looks a bit like ragwort
09:21and it's related to ragwort, ragwort,
09:24and it's reputed to drive away fleas, so very useful.
09:27Cat's purposes.
09:29Yeah, flea wort. Very good.
09:31Six points to Doug, Kevin on 12, and it's Kevin's letters game.
09:35Kevin.
09:37I'll start with a consonant, please.
09:39Thank you, Kevin. W.
09:41And another one.
09:43M.
09:44And one more.
09:46L.
09:48And a vowel, please.
09:50O.
09:52And another vowel.
09:53E.
09:54And one more.
09:56O.
09:57And a consonant.
09:59T.
10:01Another consonant.
10:03S.
10:05And a final vowel, please.
10:07And a final U.
10:10Stand by.
10:26MUSIC PLAYS
10:42Kevin.
10:43Another six.
10:45Doug.
10:46Six.
10:47Kevin.
10:48Molest.
10:49Molest. And...
10:51Molts.
10:52Molts.
10:53Yes, both fine. Six.
10:55Anything fresh?
10:57Not for me.
10:59A twosome is there for seven.
11:01A twosome.
11:03A pair of people considered together.
11:05A twosome, a handsome twosome.
11:07All right.
11:0812 points plays Kevin's 18, and it's Doug's letters game.
11:12Doug.
11:13Can I start with a consonant, please, Rachel?
11:15Thank you, Doug. T.
11:17And another consonant.
11:19M.
11:21And another consonant.
11:23And a vowel.
11:25I.
11:26And another vowel.
11:27O.
11:29Another vowel.
11:31A.
11:32And a consonant.
11:34T.
11:36And another consonant.
11:38L.
11:40And a final vowel, please.
11:43And a final E.
11:45Stand by.
11:47MUSIC PLAYS
11:53MUSIC CONTINUES
12:17Yes, Doug?
12:18Seven.
12:19A seven. Kevin?
12:20Just a five.
12:22Five.
12:23Fleet.
12:25And potable or potable?
12:27Drinkable.
12:28Drinkable, very good, yes. Excellent.
12:30And anything else there?
12:33A plomb.
12:35Yes, a plomb.
12:36That's a good word, isn't it?
12:38Yes.
12:39With a plomb.
12:40With a plomb.
12:41Perfect.
12:42Anything else?
12:43That's there for six, and for seven, optimal.
12:45Optimal. A plomb.
12:46It's a great word.
12:4719 plays 18, and Doug's just one point ahead.
12:50Numbers time for you.
12:52Hi, can I have two from the top and four from the bottom, please?
12:55You can indeed, thank you, Kevin.
12:57Two large, four little.
12:58And this time, the four little ones are two, seven,
13:01another seven, and ten,
13:03and the large two, 25 and 50.
13:06And the target...
13:08457.
13:10457.
13:12MUSIC PLAYS
13:21MUSIC CONTINUES
13:42Kevin.
13:43459.
13:45459 plays...?
13:47457.
13:48So, Doug.
13:50Seven plus two?
13:51Nine.
13:52Times 50?
13:53450.
13:54And add the other seven?
13:55Yeah, 457.
13:56There we go. Well done.
13:59Neatly done.
14:01Propels you into a lead, 29 to Kevin's 18,
14:04as we turn to Margaret.
14:06Margaret, yesterday, we were up on Hadrian's Wall,
14:11and then you suddenly decided to go all Arctic.
14:15What was that about?
14:16Well, I thought I'd go a bit further north.
14:18Yeah.
14:19So I went on a cruise to the Arctic in July,
14:22which was absolutely fantastic.
14:24And the main reason I went was because I wanted to see polar bears.
14:28And we saw eight polar bears quite close up,
14:31which was absolutely fantastic,
14:33including three together that were on the shore
14:36of a little rocky island.
14:38And it looked like two of them were boxing,
14:41on their hind legs, boxing, they're big animals.
14:44And the other one was lying down.
14:46And then the two would stop this boxing, and one would lie down,
14:50and the other one would get up, and there'd be another boxing match.
14:53I thought, what is going on?
14:55Because it didn't look like they were having a real fight.
14:58And the expert on bears, the wildlife expert that was with us,
15:02he said, you know what this is?
15:04He said, he'd never seen it before, it's really rare to see.
15:07This was a mother bear, who was slightly bigger than the other two,
15:11trying to tell the cubs that, look, it's time to go off on your own.
15:15They were about two and a half.
15:17She would have been ready to mate again.
15:20And they'd been trailing around,
15:22having her catching all the seals and everything for them,
15:25and she was saying to them, no, you've got to go and leave home now.
15:28And periodically they'd just lie down,
15:30oh, we don't want to go, and she'd go and duff on them.
15:33Exactly like trying to get teenagers out of the house.
15:36Lovely, what a good story.
15:38But these were, of course, when they're on their hind legs,
15:41they're eight feet or whatever they are.
15:43Yes, very tall.
15:45A large female weighs about 300 kilos,
15:47and the males can be up to 500 kilos.
15:49I mean, they're huge animals,
15:51so you wouldn't stand much chance in the boxing match
15:54if one was the other participant.
15:56Yeah, yeah. But anyway, it was a great trip.
15:59Super trip. Lovely, very good.
16:05Thank you, Margaret. Now what shall we do?
16:07Let's go to Doug for a letters game.
16:09Can we start with a vowel, please, Rachel?
16:11Thank you, Doug. O
16:13And another vowel.
16:15A
16:17One more vowel.
16:19E
16:21And a consonant.
16:23D
16:25Another consonant.
16:27R
16:29Another consonant.
16:31J
16:33One more consonant.
16:35I
16:37And a final vowel, please.
16:39And a final U.
16:41Countdown.
17:05WHISTLE BLOWS
17:15Doug? Seven.
17:17A seven. Kevin? A seven.
17:19Two sevens. Doug?
17:21Roadies. Roadies and...?
17:23Roadies. Two roadies.
17:25I don't think Margaret's got roadies, have you, Margaret?
17:28No. It's not your sort of word, really.
17:31No, I've got radios.
17:33That's what we used to call the wireless.
17:35Indeed.
17:37Susie?
17:39Well, I'm really lowering the tone with aroused for seven.
17:42Aroused. Yes.
17:44No, no.
17:46I... Yes.
17:50I was trying to work it into a poem, but I thought I'd better have it.
17:5336 against 25.
17:55And, Kevin, letters game.
17:57I'll have a consonant, please.
17:59Thank you, Kevin. N
18:01S
18:03And another.
18:05R
18:07And a vowel, please.
18:09A Another vowel.
18:11O
18:13One more.
18:15I
18:17And a consonant.
18:19M
18:21Another consonant.
18:23T
18:25And a final vowel, please.
18:27And a final U.
18:29MUSIC PLAYS
18:59Kevin?
19:01Seven. A seven, Doug?
19:03Eight. And an eight. Kevin?
19:05Amounts.
19:07And Manitou's?
19:09Yes, excellent.
19:11Manitou's. These are good or evil spirits
19:13amongst certain North American Indians.
19:15Very, very good.
19:17Yeah. Excellent.
19:21Excellent.
19:23And the corner?
19:25I thought we had a nine.
19:27I thought we had a nine with Manitou's.
19:29But, sadly, it's just one Manitou, and he's got a capital M.
19:32In fact, it doesn't work.
19:34Bad luck. All right. 44, please.
19:3625, and it's numbers time again.
19:38For you, Doug.
19:40Can we try six small again, Rachel, please?
19:42We can indeed. Thank you, Doug.
19:44Six littlens.
19:46R
19:48Four. Six.
19:50Two. One.
19:52Four. And seven.
19:54Quite small. The target.
19:56Four. Two, nine.
20:27Yes, Doug?
20:29Just four, two, four.
20:31Four, two, four. Kevin?
20:33Four, two, one.
20:35And four, two, one. So, Doug?
20:37I did four plus one.
20:40Four plus one is five.
20:42Times two.
20:44Ten.
20:45Times six.
20:46Sixty.
20:47Times seven.
20:48420.
20:49Plus four.
20:50And then you've got the other four left over.
20:52Yep, four, two, four.
20:54Four, two, four.
20:56OK, and it wins, but four, two, nine.
20:59Rachel?
21:00Leave it with me.
21:02Certainly. I'll leave that with you.
21:04As we turn to our second Tea Time teaser,
21:07which is Rob's ding.
21:09And the clue.
21:10You may sometimes wake up to this first thing in the morning.
21:13You may sometimes wake up to this first thing in the morning.
21:25APPLAUSE
21:32Welcome back. I left with the clue.
21:34You may sometimes wake up to this first thing in the morning.
21:38And the answer is birdsong.
21:40What a pleasant thing to wake up to. Birdsong.
21:43Now, Rachel Riley, what have you been up to?
21:45429?
21:47It is there. If you say four times four, 16.
21:51Times two, 32.
21:53Add one for 33, and then seven plus six is 13,
21:57and times them together.
21:59There we go. 429. Well done.
22:03429.
22:05With Doug in the lead, 51 to Kevin's, 25.
22:08Kevin, letters game.
22:10We'll start with a vowel, please.
22:12Thank you, Kevin. E.
22:14And another vowel.
22:16O.
22:17And one more.
22:18I.
22:19And a consonant.
22:21Z.
22:22Another consonant.
22:24M.
22:25And another.
22:26N.
22:28And a vowel, please.
22:30O.
22:32And a consonant.
22:34H.
22:36And a final consonant.
22:38And a final T.
22:40Stand by.
22:52MUSIC PLAYS
23:12Kevin?
23:13Five.
23:14A five, Doug?
23:15A five.
23:16Kevin?
23:17Month.
23:18And?
23:19Yeah, I'm going to say month as well.
23:21There we are.
23:24Thank you. Can we improve on month?
23:27We could beat it with hitmen.
23:29What better? Hitmen. Anything else?
23:32I was very slow here. Motion was there for six,
23:35and at the last minute I saw the E, so emotion.
23:38Emotion. Well done. All right, thank you.
23:4056 plays 30.
23:42Doug, your letters game.
23:45Can we start with a consonant, please, Rachel?
23:47Thank you, Doug. F.
23:49And another consonant.
23:51S.
23:52One more.
23:54T.
23:56A vowel.
23:58A.
23:59Another vowel.
24:00E.
24:01One more vowel, please.
24:03I.
24:05And a consonant.
24:07C.
24:09And another consonant.
24:11W.
24:12And a final vowel, please.
24:14And a final A.
24:17Stand by.
24:48Doug?
24:50Seven.
24:52And Kevin?
24:53Just a six.
24:54And your six?
24:55Fasted.
24:56Fasted and?
24:57Awaited.
24:58Very good.
24:59And awaited.
25:01All right.
25:03Anything else there in the corner? Margaret and Susie, what have you got?
25:06Got wasted. That's seven again.
25:09Very good. Anything else?
25:11With the I, short-waisted, etc, long-waisted.
25:13No, sevens was our best, actually.
25:15All right, thank you. 63 plays 30.
25:18Doug's in the lead there,
25:20as we turn to Susie and her wonderful origins of words.
25:24Now, what have you got for us?
25:26Well, there is a joy sitting next to Margaret, Nick,
25:29because she enjoys words and language,
25:32and she was telling me something I didn't know,
25:34which was that the origin of Caligula, the name Caligula, the emperor,
25:38and apparently it came from the Caliga or Caligae sandals,
25:42very heavy-wearing sandals that Roman soldiers used to wear,
25:46and as a child, apparently Caligula would try on these sandals
25:51as part of a legionary costume,
25:53and they were little, I think Caligula means little boot or little sandal,
25:58and apparently when he did become emperor,
26:00he wore heavily jeweled, absolutely beautiful Caligae or Caligulae, indeed.
26:05And it got me thinking about the slightly strange story
26:09behind another famous person's surname, and that's Cicero.
26:14Now, Cicero is a name that comes from the Latin cica,
26:17which meant chickpea, believe it or not,
26:20and according to Plutarch, the name was first given to one of Cicero's ancestors
26:24because he had a cleft in his chin that was the size and shape of a chickpea.
26:29Very, very unlikely.
26:31More likely, apparently, according to surname experts in this field,
26:37onomatopoeias they're called,
26:39was that his whole family was involved in the selling of chickpeas,
26:43and actually this sort of name was quite common in those days.
26:46So Fabius, which was another very popular name of the time,
26:49meant bean, and then there was piso, meaning peas,
26:52so not quite as unlikely as possibly as it seems today.
26:56But it reminded me again of that lovely story of warts and all,
27:00that expression that goes back to Oliver Cromwell,
27:02Oliver Cromwell also, we think, who demanded that his portrait be painted
27:06completely unembellished and not in the style of the day
27:09when they all look absolutely fantastic with a shapely calf.
27:12And if you look at his death mask,
27:14you can see that he had a very prominent wart just here
27:17and had a slightly warty face.
27:20But, yeah, very unlikely that Cicero,
27:22he's supposed to have had probably the biggest influence on language
27:25than any other person, in fact, in Latin or any other European language indeed,
27:29that his name actually goes back to a tiny little pole school for chickpea.
27:33Very good. Well done.
27:41Lovely. Thank you. Thank you, Susie.
27:4363, page 30.
27:45And, Kevin, your letters came.
27:48A consonant, please.
27:50Thank you, Kevin. H
27:52And another?
27:54R
27:56And one more?
27:58F
28:00And a vowel, please?
28:02E
28:04Another vowel?
28:06U
28:08And another?
28:10I
28:12And a consonant?
28:14S
28:16Another consonant?
28:18D
28:20And a final vowel, please?
28:22And a final O.
28:24Time's up.
28:28MUSIC PLAYS
28:52Yes, Kevin? Six.
28:54A six, Doug? A six.
28:56Housed.
28:58And rushed.
29:00Yes.
29:02And Doug's rushed. Yep.
29:04Anything else?
29:06Er, more sixes, like shored. Quite a few sixes there.
29:10One seven that we could find is hideous.
29:12Hideous. Hideous. Yeah.
29:14Hideous aspect.
29:1669-36.
29:18Final letters game for Doug.
29:20Can we have a consonant, please, Rachel?
29:23Thank you, Doug. S
29:25And another consonant?
29:27R
29:29One more?
29:31N
29:33Another one?
29:35S
29:37And a vowel, please?
29:39A
29:41Another vowel?
29:43E
29:45Another vowel?
29:47I
29:49Another vowel?
29:51U
29:53Time's up.
29:55MUSIC PLAYS
30:23MUSIC STOPS
30:27My word. Doug?
30:29Eight. An eight.
30:31Kevin? Five.
30:33Your five? Uses.
30:35No, then, Doug? Airiness.
30:38Airiness is in the dictionary.
30:41Airiness of a room. Well done.
30:43Very good, yeah. Well done.
30:45APPLAUSE
30:47It looks a pretty difficult one.
30:49Pretty difficult selection.
30:51What have you conjured out of that?
30:53There was one other eight there,
30:55and it's from poetry and prosody,
30:58and that's Cenarius.
31:00S-E-N-A-R-I-U-S, or Cenarius, indeed.
31:03A verse of six feet, especially an iambic trimeter, or trimeter.
31:07Really? Yep.
31:09Few of us, I think, would have known that.
31:11Thank you very much. 77 plays 36,
31:14and we're into the final numbers game.
31:16And it's got Kevin's name on it. Kevin?
31:19Two large ones, please, Rachel, and four from anywhere else.
31:22Thank you, Kevin. Two large, four,
31:24little for the final one of the day.
31:26And these four smalls are 10, 9, 5 and 1,
31:30and the large two, 75 and 50.
31:33And the target, 501.
31:36501.
31:49MUSIC PLAYS
32:10Now, Kevin, let's get this over with fairly quickly.
32:13Yeah, I've got 501.
32:15Well done. And? Likewise.
32:17And, Kevin?
32:1910 times 50 plus 1.
32:21Yeah, trust you. We didn't even need to ask.
32:23There we go. All right. We'll not fight about that.
32:26So, here we go. 70, 87, I'm so sorry, to 46,
32:30as we go into the final round.
32:32So, fingers on buzzers, please.
32:34Doug, Kevin, let's roll today's Countdown Conundrum.
32:38BELL RINGS
32:44Yes, Doug?
32:46No, it's not dissenting.
32:48Down to you, Kevin.
33:12BUZZER
33:14Kevin?
33:16You just fancied the sound of the buzzer.
33:18All right, why not?
33:21Who will solve this for me?
33:23Yes, ma'am?
33:25Is it detesting?
33:27Detesting? Let's see whether you're right.
33:30Detesting. Well done.
33:32Well done.
33:34Very good.
33:36So, Doug takes the day, 87 to 46.
33:38Well done, Doug.
33:40And bad luck, Kevin.
33:42The Pirate.
33:44The Pirate is a good player, I think.
33:46And today, he vanquished all before him.
33:49So, thanks for coming. Pleasure.
33:51And take this goodie bag back to Portsmouth with you.
33:55Now then, Doug, we shall see you on Monday.
33:57Tomorrow, we're going racing.
33:59So, you have a quiet weekend, no swashbuckling.
34:01I'll try. Yeah? No plunder.
34:03I'll do my best. Behave yourself over the weekend.
34:06We shall see you on Monday.
34:08As indeed, Margaret, you'll come back on Monday, won't you?
34:10Certainly will, thank you. Wonderful.
34:12And Susie, too. Yes. All right.
34:14See you on Monday, Rachel.
34:16Have a lovely long weekend. All right. Indeed.
34:18Same time, same place.
34:20You be sure of it.
34:22Monday is Countdown Day again.
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