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Get a behind-the-scenes look at Mighty Koi Studio, developers of Thorgal and The Night Wanderer, and the creation of games based on Thorgal and The Lord of the Ice Garden - iconic series of Polish fantasy.

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00:00:00In the previous episode...

00:00:15All exits before you enter, you have to look around, you have to investigate.

00:00:21Because you don't know where the enemies are hiding in the lighthouse.

00:00:31They said he came out of the icy waves of the North Sea.

00:00:40Born of its raging expanse.

00:00:47They said he emerged out of the night.

00:00:51Riding on a horse as big as a dragon.

00:00:55His sword ablaze.

00:01:03They said he came out of the fright wastelands.

00:01:10Shaped by depraved thoughts.

00:01:14A shadow followed him.

00:01:18A shadow who sang of war.

00:01:22They said he was the son of a vagrant god.

00:01:28Who sired him with a mortal woman.

00:01:41They said he was forged by lightning.

00:01:51A lightning that woke up the slumbering princess.

00:01:56The storm is.

00:01:59This is the moment I am born in.

00:02:09When the fire starts to burn.

00:02:19She was confined by the abyss.

00:02:26When the fire starts to burn.

00:02:29Her only hope, the ship carrying her beloved.

00:02:35When the fire starts, when the fire starts.

00:02:41When the fire starts, when the fire starts to burn.

00:02:50When the fire starts to burn.

00:02:54They said she died.

00:02:57Giving birth to fire.

00:03:02And to the warrior.

00:03:07When the fire starts to burn.

00:03:10When the fire starts, when the fire starts.

00:03:13They were all wrong.

00:03:25I AM HERE

00:03:40Welcome, my name is Ada Borysiuk

00:03:43and I have the great honor and pleasure to be your guide today.

00:03:47A guide in the world of visionaries,

00:03:49developers, game creators,

00:03:51animators and icons of the world of fantasy.

00:03:54A moment ago, you could see the trailer for the game The Night Wanderer,

00:03:58based on the book by Jarosław Grzędowicz,

00:04:00The Lord of the Ice Garden.

00:04:02And what I can reveal to you right now

00:04:04is that today we will discover the cards

00:04:06about not one, but two fantastic productions.

00:04:09I invite you to the world of innovation,

00:04:11to the world of technology

00:04:13and to the world of phenomenal stories.

00:04:15I invite you to the world of Mighty Koi.

00:04:17Let's get started.

00:04:21The Night Wanderer

00:04:52The Night Wanderer

00:05:07And here is the CEO of Mighty Koi, Karolina Majdzińska.

00:05:10Welcome.

00:05:11Hello.

00:05:12Hi.

00:05:13My dear, since we are at the beginning,

00:05:15we should talk about the beginnings.

00:05:17So what did Mighty Koi look like?

00:05:19Behind the seven mountains,

00:05:21behind the seven forests,

00:05:23quite seriously in Warsaw,

00:05:25there was a group of people

00:05:27who decided that they would like to

00:05:29be able to fulfill the dreams of all players,

00:05:32of all people who love games,

00:05:35books, stories, fantasy very much.

00:05:38Just as we love it,

00:05:40as we wanted to be able to share it

00:05:42and create new, cool products,

00:05:45including, above all, computer games.

00:05:48So that was the beginning.

00:05:50And what did we see?

00:05:52You immediately saw a certain niche for yourself,

00:05:55or a gap that you want to fill.

00:05:57And you see that this is what the players need,

00:05:59this is not there yet,

00:06:01and we have an idea for it.

00:06:02Will we do it?

00:06:03You know what?

00:06:04We looked a little more broadly,

00:06:05because there were people in our group

00:06:07with different experiences,

00:06:09with different perceptions,

00:06:10with different optics.

00:06:11So we also looked from the point of view

00:06:13of business,

00:06:15what are the expectations,

00:06:17what could be found

00:06:19as the best market for Betus.

00:06:21Because we wanted to make high-quality games

00:06:23from the beginning,

00:06:24i.e. also in high budgets.

00:06:26So we knew that we also had to analyze

00:06:28such issues,

00:06:30to be able to meet the needs of the players,

00:06:33the players' expectations,

00:06:34as well as our own.

00:06:35So we looked through business,

00:06:37we looked through what has a good reception

00:06:39in the environment,

00:06:41what players would like to receive,

00:06:43because for a long time

00:06:45it was also possible to read on forums

00:06:47that after some Polish games,

00:06:50another game should be a game

00:06:52based on The Lord of the Rings.

00:06:55So that's where the look

00:06:57at the date of the story came from.

00:06:59In addition, we also saw

00:07:01that the author Jarosław Grzędowicz,

00:07:02Jarek Grzędowicz, said

00:07:03that he would like to have a game

00:07:05based on his story,

00:07:08that he is ready to believe

00:07:10his work to someone,

00:07:11that he would do it differently,

00:07:13because a game is a sign,

00:07:14it is a different way of conveying.

00:07:16Hence the visit

00:07:18and long conversations with Jarek.

00:07:20It turned out that in human terms

00:07:22we just have chemistry,

00:07:23we look at certain issues in a similar way,

00:07:25we have similar values

00:07:27when it comes to products,

00:07:28what we would like to give away,

00:07:29how we want to treat

00:07:31the characters in his book.

00:07:34And that's how the production of the game

00:07:36based on The Lord of the Rings began.

00:07:39A combination of heart and mind.

00:07:41Definitely.

00:07:42Yes.

00:07:43We'll come back to Mr. Grzędowicz,

00:07:44but you say we were there.

00:07:45How big was the studio at the beginning

00:07:47and what did its expansion look like?

00:07:49At the beginning,

00:07:50at the very beginning there were three of us,

00:07:52then there were a few more of us,

00:07:53it was about 10-15 people,

00:07:55and at the moment,

00:07:56in total, everyone working on the game

00:07:58and all the technologies,

00:08:00tools, other issues

00:08:02that are necessary for this

00:08:03is almost 100 people.

00:08:05We talked for a while about the plans,

00:08:07but you definitely have hard goals

00:08:09for the next few years.

00:08:12There are a few IP universes

00:08:14that we will talk about,

00:08:17but which you deal with.

00:08:20Games are just part of the universe

00:08:22that comics, books, series, movies can create.

00:08:26Is this also an area

00:08:27that you would like to deal with,

00:08:29which you deal with?

00:08:30Definitely yes.

00:08:31This is something

00:08:32that we internally call transmedia.

00:08:35To better understand what it's about,

00:08:37we wanted to give our players,

00:08:39our users of our products,

00:08:41the opportunity to interact with them,

00:08:43basically from morning to night.

00:08:44If today is a day

00:08:45when I want to play a computer game,

00:08:47I play a computer game.

00:08:48If today is a day

00:08:49when I want to play a role-playing game

00:08:53with my friends,

00:08:54I play an RPG.

00:08:55And this also enlightened us,

00:08:57we wanted to achieve this

00:08:58and we will definitely go in this direction.

00:09:00Of course, also with mobile media.

00:09:03However, these are also plans

00:09:05that we will want to pursue,

00:09:06whether it's feature films, animated films,

00:09:09or other such issues.

00:09:11And how important is cooperation

00:09:12with the community, the fandom?

00:09:15It's definitely important.

00:09:17We wouldn't be here

00:09:18if not for the many people

00:09:19who helped us,

00:09:20who believed in us

00:09:22and our dreams, our goals.

00:09:24Without the players, without the community,

00:09:26it would be pointless

00:09:27to do something like that.

00:09:28Doing something for yourself

00:09:29and putting it on the shelf

00:09:30is not our goal.

00:09:31It's supposed to be a product

00:09:32that's really supposed to be played,

00:09:34that's supposed to be played,

00:09:35that's supposed to be used.

00:09:36Okay, so what are you going to show us today?

00:09:39Today we're going to show a trailer,

00:09:42today we're going to reveal

00:09:43another surprise,

00:09:44we're going to tell you more about it.

00:09:47And there's a lot of it,

00:09:48because we have a very big appetite

00:09:52for all that we can meet

00:09:56at the moment in game dev

00:09:59or in general terms

00:10:01in creative industries.

00:10:03There are a lot of phenomenal people in game dev,

00:10:05so I can only add from myself

00:10:07that there are a lot of people

00:10:09on this couch,

00:10:10actually not on the couch,

00:10:11but in our studio today.

00:10:12You'll see them

00:10:13and I'll have the opportunity

00:10:14to talk to them.

00:10:15But not just me.

00:10:16It was Karolina Majdzińska,

00:10:17CEO of MightyKoi.

00:10:19And since we're talking about people,

00:10:21let's move to the MightyKoi studio,

00:10:24where, in person,

00:10:25Filip Beskhamat Malinowski

00:10:27was able to observe

00:10:28how the work on the game

00:10:29The Night Wanderer looks like.

00:10:34THE NIGHT WANDERER

00:10:45I got my first volume

00:10:47on my birthday,

00:10:48I was 20 years old,

00:10:49and my first thought was

00:10:50this is a game-movie,

00:10:51why isn't there an adaptation?

00:10:52So for me,

00:10:53it's natural,

00:10:54it's a natural development of this IP,

00:10:56it was a natural consequence

00:10:58of what's in the books.

00:11:00There's so much material there

00:11:02that we didn't feel the need

00:11:03to create a new hero.

00:11:04Even from the beginning,

00:11:05when we got the right to this IP,

00:11:06it was clear,

00:11:07yes, this will be the story

00:11:08of Wuko Drakajnen,

00:11:09and that's it.

00:11:10We've been waiting for it for years,

00:11:12and in the end,

00:11:13we're doing it ourselves.

00:11:14So I think sooner or later

00:11:15someone had to reach for it.

00:11:16The material is great, so...

00:11:18Souls-like.

00:11:19Yes.

00:11:20This word has to fall.

00:11:21Where did the idea come from

00:11:23to combine this world

00:11:25and this story

00:11:26with a Souls-like genre?

00:11:28It was also,

00:11:29in fact, a few decisions.

00:11:30We've looked at the market,

00:11:31what players are playing,

00:11:32what we're playing,

00:11:33what our friends are playing,

00:11:34so this Souls-like

00:11:35is not without a reason.

00:11:38But let's also remember

00:11:39that the world itself,

00:11:40Mr. Glacier's Garden,

00:11:41Midgard's planet itself,

00:11:42is dangerous,

00:11:43because the so-called

00:11:44war of the gods is going on there.

00:11:45That's what the inhabitants

00:11:46of this planet call the whole phenomenon.

00:11:47We find out later

00:11:48why it's caused.

00:11:50So that makes it

00:11:51doubly dangerous there.

00:11:52So this genre,

00:11:53largely based on fighting mechanics,

00:11:57is a natural consequence

00:11:59of all this.

00:12:00In my opinion,

00:12:01it fits perfectly

00:12:02to give the planet

00:12:03a sense of danger.

00:12:04What makes players

00:12:05eager to reach out?

00:12:06Why is this genre

00:12:07so popular?

00:12:10You know what?

00:12:11In my opinion,

00:12:12there are a few reasons.

00:12:13First of all,

00:12:14it's a bit of a return

00:12:15to the roots,

00:12:16to the old games.

00:12:17Secondly,

00:12:18I think it's a natural,

00:12:19you know,

00:12:20atavistic desire

00:12:22to compete,

00:12:23to prove oneself.

00:12:25Plus, you know what?

00:12:26These games are

00:12:27really quite fair.

00:12:29I think that's what it's all about.

00:12:31You have the freedom

00:12:32to think,

00:12:33you can do a lot

00:12:34in your own way,

00:12:35but it has its price.

00:12:37If you've planned something

00:12:39wrong somewhere,

00:12:40well,

00:12:41then it's too bad.

00:12:42Maybe you should have

00:12:43followed the path

00:12:44shown by the light

00:12:45in Elden.

00:12:46And that's it.

00:12:47If you could tell us

00:12:48about something

00:12:49that stands out,

00:12:51not only in Slayke,

00:12:52but also in other games.

00:12:53Of course,

00:12:54I think of the number.

00:12:56How it will be used.

00:12:58But I assume

00:12:59you can add something

00:13:00to it.

00:13:01Imagine that

00:13:02your user interface

00:13:04depends on what's

00:13:05sitting in your

00:13:06cybernetic,

00:13:07fungal graft

00:13:08that's under your skin,

00:13:10which, through the magic

00:13:11of an alien planet,

00:13:12has gained consciousness.

00:13:13I don't think

00:13:14that's happened yet,

00:13:15because the number

00:13:16will be your guide,

00:13:17a kind of companion,

00:13:18but also,

00:13:19you know,

00:13:20it's responsible

00:13:21for what's displayed.

00:13:22So, theoretically,

00:13:23if you have a bad relationship

00:13:24with it,

00:13:25you know,

00:13:26you go to a party,

00:13:27and there's a party,

00:13:28so I can spoil you

00:13:29that much.

00:13:30And it turns out

00:13:31that the number says,

00:13:32okay,

00:13:33you're like that,

00:13:34so deal with it yourself.

00:13:35And around,

00:13:36for example,

00:13:37monsters and fog,

00:13:38or the so-called

00:13:39cold fog,

00:13:40which we know

00:13:41from the book.

00:13:42So, yes,

00:13:43the number is

00:13:44multidimensional,

00:13:45it's one of the,

00:13:46let's say,

00:13:47selling points

00:13:48of our game.

00:13:49But not only.

00:13:50I think the world

00:13:51will also surprise players

00:13:52in a few aspects.

00:13:56How much of Midgard's world

00:13:58will be open to the player,

00:14:00and what will be the possibility

00:14:02of navigating it?

00:14:04I'll tell you this,

00:14:06there will definitely be elements

00:14:08that will allow

00:14:10the player to feel the world.

00:14:12Of course,

00:14:13the souls-likes

00:14:14are quite closed,

00:14:15because the feeling of alienation

00:14:17is quite important.

00:14:18We want to break it,

00:14:19we want the player

00:14:20to love Midgard a little bit,

00:14:22to feel here

00:14:24like at home,

00:14:25because that's how Wuko,

00:14:26our main character,

00:14:27reacts to it.

00:14:28He runs away from the ground

00:14:30to be more free.

00:14:32And Midgard gives him that.

00:14:34We have a character

00:14:35who is a modern human for us.

00:14:37He has the same mindset

00:14:39as each of us,

00:14:41and he is thrown

00:14:42into a completely different world,

00:14:44thanks to which

00:14:45we play on the same principles

00:14:47as him.

00:14:48We get to know

00:14:49a completely new world

00:14:50through the eyes

00:14:51of a human like us.

00:14:52For me,

00:14:53this is a great solution

00:14:55for the narrative

00:14:56to tell this story.

00:14:58We want the player

00:14:59to feel it somewhere,

00:15:01and we want certain elements

00:15:06of the world,

00:15:07well,

00:15:08I'm talking about the hub.

00:15:09We're planning a cool hub,

00:15:11more RPG-like

00:15:12than souls-like,

00:15:14so we open the player

00:15:16to this world

00:15:18much more than

00:15:19in other souls-likes.

00:15:22We want the quests

00:15:24to be strong,

00:15:25exciting,

00:15:26so that the player

00:15:27can experience them

00:15:28after many years.

00:15:29I'm a tabletop RPG player,

00:15:31and this is something

00:15:32I struggle with,

00:15:34because you can never

00:15:36predict what will happen

00:15:37at the RPG table.

00:15:39If you lock the player

00:15:41in a tight corridor

00:15:43and don't let him

00:15:45choose his path,

00:15:47the player will get bored.

00:15:50Of course,

00:15:51there are some players

00:15:52who like to be

00:15:53kicked in the back

00:15:54so that they get

00:15:55a clue,

00:15:56an adventure.

00:15:57You have to respect this,

00:15:59because everyone

00:16:00has their own approach

00:16:01to playing the game,

00:16:03but for me,

00:16:04you can make a choice,

00:16:06but you don't have to.

00:16:07If you want to,

00:16:08we'll do it

00:16:09according to your will.

00:16:11I would like to

00:16:12convey this

00:16:13as strongly as possible

00:16:15in our game,

00:16:16so that the choices

00:16:17are real,

00:16:18not just

00:16:20illusory,

00:16:22so that at the end

00:16:24the player can say

00:16:25that this is his story.

00:16:27The keyword is

00:16:28digital.

00:16:29In the book,

00:16:30it's an integral part

00:16:32of the character,

00:16:34but also

00:16:35a separate being.

00:16:37How are you going

00:16:38to use digital

00:16:39in the game?

00:16:41Listen,

00:16:42for us,

00:16:43digital is

00:16:44one of the most

00:16:45important elements of the game.

00:16:47It's also

00:16:48an element

00:16:49of your own agenda.

00:16:51It's not really

00:16:52a fantasy,

00:16:53as you might think.

00:16:54Actually,

00:16:55Mr. Nowak-Ogrod

00:16:56is pure sci-fi.

00:16:57You just have to

00:16:58read the ending.

00:16:59And he kind of looks

00:17:00like a cool

00:17:01cyber viking.

00:17:02Yeah,

00:17:03cyber viking,

00:17:04exactly.

00:17:05Cyber viking,

00:17:06isn't that?

00:17:07Yes,

00:17:08cyber viking,

00:17:09this is the

00:17:10exact description.

00:17:11That's everything

00:17:12that you need

00:17:13to create him.

00:17:14Yes, yes,

00:17:15cyber viking,

00:17:16to achieve

00:17:17the feeling,

00:17:18I would say,

00:17:19old-fashioned sci-fi

00:17:20stuff,

00:17:21like 80s,

00:17:22something like this.

00:17:23So,

00:17:24maybe a good

00:17:25reference here

00:17:26could be also

00:17:27the Star Wars,

00:17:28for example,

00:17:29because it's

00:17:30like old-style

00:17:31and this kind of

00:17:32not digital,

00:17:33but analog sci-fi.

00:17:34It doesn't look

00:17:35that much

00:17:36high-tech.

00:17:37Yes,

00:17:38and that was

00:17:39the idea,

00:17:40because,

00:17:41you know,

00:17:42it has to be sci-fi,

00:17:43but it has to be

00:17:44believable.

00:17:45Exactly,

00:17:46so this also

00:17:47was an inspiration,

00:17:48so everyone

00:17:49can find something

00:17:50familiar.

00:17:51Yeah,

00:17:52but maybe one thing

00:17:53I can highlight

00:17:54that voice-over,

00:17:56basically,

00:17:57it is literally

00:17:58just the actor

00:18:00reading the first

00:18:01chapter of the book.

00:18:02So,

00:18:03we literally thought

00:18:04how the voice-over

00:18:05should work,

00:18:06what the text

00:18:07should be there,

00:18:08and so on,

00:18:09but then we just

00:18:10opened the book,

00:18:11we just read

00:18:12an introduction,

00:18:13and we're like,

00:18:14what do we need?

00:18:16We have even

00:18:17a director

00:18:18who is working

00:18:19with us full-time,

00:18:20in-house,

00:18:21because it's very

00:18:22important that

00:18:23every single

00:18:24casting should be

00:18:25directed,

00:18:26and we personally

00:18:27act like

00:18:28it's a real movie.

00:18:29I don't know,

00:18:3015 seconds,

00:18:31but all these

00:18:32rules,

00:18:33and we have

00:18:34a professional

00:18:35director in our team,

00:18:36and all this stuff,

00:18:38the approach

00:18:39is completely

00:18:40the same

00:18:41like in movies,

00:18:42and I personally

00:18:43try to push

00:18:44as far as possible

00:18:45the possibilities

00:18:46of the tools

00:18:47that we have

00:18:48for this game,

00:18:49and to achieve

00:18:50this as realistic

00:18:51as possible,

00:18:52as cinematic

00:18:53as possible,

00:18:54as movie-style

00:18:55as possible

00:18:56approach.

00:18:57So,

00:18:58this is basically

00:18:59what I'm trying

00:19:00to push

00:19:01everyone in the team,

00:19:02the artists,

00:19:03the art directors,

00:19:04it's all about that.

00:19:06So, I guess

00:19:07we can expect

00:19:08the game to be

00:19:09cinematic experience,

00:19:10much more than

00:19:11Yeah,

00:19:12this is

00:19:13my main

00:19:14internal goal.

00:19:15It's not highlighted,

00:19:16but this is

00:19:17my responsibility

00:19:18on this project,

00:19:19that it has to be

00:19:20really, really cinematic.

00:19:22So,

00:19:23is the teaser

00:19:24in any way

00:19:25a good indication

00:19:26of what we could

00:19:27expect in game?

00:19:28I hope so.

00:19:30I hope so.

00:19:32Yes,

00:19:33I think yes.

00:19:42So,

00:19:43here is some

00:19:44magic happens.

00:19:45Oh,

00:19:46the magic.

00:19:52What about

00:19:53Deidra?

00:19:54I mean,

00:19:55she's redhead,

00:19:56are there any

00:19:57inspirations?

00:19:58For sure.

00:19:59I really love

00:20:00the work with the skin,

00:20:01as you can see,

00:20:02it's really highly

00:20:03detailed,

00:20:04and we will try

00:20:05to use those

00:20:06details for the game

00:20:07as well,

00:20:08so not only

00:20:09in the teaser,

00:20:10but we can also

00:20:11take those concepts

00:20:12and turn them

00:20:13into 3D assets.

00:20:14Sure, sure.

00:20:15For example,

00:20:16this one is still

00:20:17in process,

00:20:18but we,

00:20:19as you can see,

00:20:20we have a lot of...

00:20:21All those assets

00:20:22that are in teaser.

00:20:23Yes, yes.

00:20:24So,

00:20:25since the book

00:20:26that the game

00:20:27is based on

00:20:28is a non-visual medium,

00:20:29and there are

00:20:30only hints

00:20:31of how the world

00:20:32should look like,

00:20:33what is the most

00:20:34exciting part,

00:20:35or maybe it's

00:20:36challenging

00:20:37in creating it

00:20:38pretty much

00:20:39from scratch?

00:20:41I guess it is

00:20:42the most challenging

00:20:43part of our work,

00:20:44so,

00:20:45basically,

00:20:46we need to recreate

00:20:47the imagination

00:20:48of the author,

00:20:49but even though

00:20:50that's really hard

00:20:51for us to create

00:20:52those unique

00:20:53environments,

00:20:54still,

00:20:55it's going to be

00:20:56really, really

00:20:57awesome experience

00:20:58and unique experience

00:20:59for the player.

00:21:00And also,

00:21:01a few words

00:21:02about what we're

00:21:03working on right now,

00:21:04we start with the

00:21:05lands heavily influenced

00:21:06with the Nordic style,

00:21:07and then we're

00:21:08going to go

00:21:09into something

00:21:10more crazy

00:21:11and fantasy-like.

00:21:13So, there are

00:21:14different stylistics

00:21:15as well

00:21:16than you can expect?

00:21:17Yes, for sure.

00:21:19If not to spoil

00:21:20the whole game,

00:21:22every biome

00:21:23has its own

00:21:24atmosphere,

00:21:25own weather,

00:21:26own narrative,

00:21:28so it's absolutely

00:21:29different,

00:21:30and that's the most

00:21:31difficult part for us,

00:21:32because,

00:21:33yeah,

00:21:34if something is

00:21:35really, really different,

00:21:36you need to create

00:21:37a smooth connection

00:21:38in between.

00:21:39So,

00:21:40I can expect

00:21:41many different locations

00:21:42with their own

00:21:43specific environment

00:21:44and feel?

00:21:45Yes, for sure.

00:21:46Based on books?

00:21:47Yes.

00:21:48Okay.

00:21:59I can't count

00:22:00how many times

00:22:01I've heard

00:22:02the word

00:22:03Souls-like

00:22:04in the context

00:22:05of The Night Wanderer.

00:22:06I already know

00:22:07that this game

00:22:08will be something more

00:22:09than just Souls-like

00:22:10and something different

00:22:11than many people

00:22:12might think

00:22:13when they hear

00:22:14or hear this word.

00:22:15I won't name games

00:22:16because there are

00:22:17some games that

00:22:18replicate it

00:22:19and that's it.

00:22:20We really don't

00:22:21want to fall into traps

00:22:22where it's just

00:22:23something that already

00:22:24existed.

00:22:25In fact,

00:22:26we want to push

00:22:27the evolution of the genre

00:22:28forward

00:22:29and just experiment

00:22:30a little,

00:22:31so we want

00:22:32to play around

00:22:33with this formula.

00:22:34So,

00:22:35people will find

00:22:36something for themselves.

00:22:37Yes.

00:22:38It's a golden mean

00:22:39and you have to

00:22:40balance it well.

00:22:41But we really try

00:22:42to make focus tests

00:22:43so that every group

00:22:44of people

00:22:45will find something for themselves.

00:22:46If someone likes

00:22:47Souls-like,

00:22:48wants a challenge,

00:22:49will find something

00:22:50for themselves.

00:22:51The same goes

00:22:52for casual players

00:22:53who just want

00:22:54to experience history,

00:22:55like IP,

00:22:56like books,

00:22:57this will also be

00:22:58a game for them.

00:22:59Most Souls-likes

00:23:00are characterized

00:23:01by a gloomy atmosphere,

00:23:02a heavy atmosphere.

00:23:03Yes.

00:23:04Did you manage

00:23:05to keep a certain balance?

00:23:06Was there also

00:23:07a place for humor?

00:23:08Yes, there is a lot of humor.

00:23:09Ok.

00:23:10Of course.

00:23:11I'm sorry

00:23:12to ask you

00:23:13a bit ahead of time.

00:23:14So not so depressing.

00:23:15No.

00:23:16You know,

00:23:17you have some main quest,

00:23:18you've done something

00:23:19in some location,

00:23:20let's say you're

00:23:21in a inn

00:23:22and something is happening there.

00:23:23You see some interaction

00:23:24between two NPCs

00:23:25and you can talk to them.

00:23:26You know,

00:23:27very life-like,

00:23:28funny situations

00:23:29will also be in our game.

00:23:30This is quest design,

00:23:31side activities,

00:23:32where the player

00:23:33will experience

00:23:34side events.

00:23:35Speaking of fighting.

00:23:36I know

00:23:37you have

00:23:38a lot of

00:23:39mock-ups.

00:23:40Could you tell us

00:23:41a bit about

00:23:42how it will look

00:23:43like as a show,

00:23:44animations and so on?

00:23:45The animations

00:23:46in Souls-like

00:23:47are very precise.

00:23:48Milliseconds

00:23:49are counted,

00:23:50everything is based

00:23:51on frames,

00:23:52the whole gameplay.

00:23:53So it was

00:23:54one of the main

00:23:55things

00:23:56we had to quickly

00:23:57analyze

00:23:58and reiterate

00:23:59some solutions

00:24:00so that

00:24:01the whole pipeline

00:24:02works effectively.

00:24:03So it was

00:24:04a big iterative

00:24:05process.

00:24:06We did

00:24:07pretty well

00:24:08and it will be

00:24:09even better.

00:24:10Because this is

00:24:11something that

00:24:12can be improved

00:24:13and changed

00:24:14all the time

00:24:15through development.

00:24:16So we're

00:24:17playing with it all the time.

00:24:18You know,

00:24:19Souls has

00:24:20some stylized

00:24:21animations.

00:24:22That's why

00:24:23we don't

00:24:24make mock-ups.

00:24:25Jedi has

00:24:26more realistic

00:24:27animations

00:24:28and we want to

00:24:29do the same

00:24:30in the game.

00:24:31And this world

00:24:32is actually

00:24:33something you can

00:24:34relate to.

00:24:35It can

00:24:36actually

00:24:37happen.

00:24:38And do you think

00:24:39you'll be able

00:24:40to connect

00:24:41the depth of the

00:24:42gameplay and

00:24:43the possibility

00:24:44of fighting

00:24:45with the value

00:24:46of film production

00:24:47when it comes

00:24:48to the game

00:24:49segment?

00:24:50It's possible.

00:24:51Definitely.

00:24:52And taking into

00:24:53account that

00:24:54you're adapting

00:24:55the first

00:24:56chapter,

00:24:57there's a

00:24:58lot of

00:24:59potential.

00:25:00Do you think

00:25:01you'll be

00:25:02able to

00:25:03expand it

00:25:04in the future?

00:25:05Maybe some

00:25:06DLC, additional

00:25:07elements?

00:25:08We're running

00:25:09into the future.

00:25:10But yes,

00:25:11this world is

00:25:12huge,

00:25:13very rich

00:25:14and there's

00:25:15a lot of

00:25:16maneuvering

00:25:17to do.

00:25:18And we

00:25:19think about

00:25:20it.

00:25:21It's all

00:25:22planned

00:25:23forward

00:25:24to some

00:25:25extent.

00:25:26So,

00:25:27yes,

00:25:28we're

00:25:29planning

00:25:30to

00:25:31expand

00:25:32the game

00:25:33segment

00:25:34in the

00:25:35future.

00:25:36And

00:25:37yes,

00:25:38there's

00:25:39a lot of

00:25:40maneuvering

00:25:41to do.

00:25:42And

00:25:43yes,

00:25:44we're

00:25:45planning

00:25:46to

00:25:47expand

00:25:48the game

00:25:49segment

00:25:50in the

00:25:51future.

00:25:52And

00:25:53yes,

00:25:54we're

00:25:55planning

00:25:56to

00:25:57expand

00:25:58the game

00:25:59segment

00:26:00in the

00:26:01future.

00:26:02And

00:26:03yes,

00:26:04there's

00:26:05a lot

00:26:06of

00:26:07maneuvering

00:26:08to do.

00:26:09And

00:26:10yes,

00:26:11we're

00:26:12planning

00:26:13to

00:26:14expand

00:26:15the game

00:26:16segment

00:26:17in the

00:26:18future.

00:26:19And

00:26:20yes,

00:26:21there's

00:26:22a lot

00:26:23of

00:26:24maneuvering

00:26:25to do.

00:26:26And

00:26:27yes,

00:26:28there's

00:26:29a lot

00:26:30of

00:26:31maneuvering

00:26:32to do.

00:26:33And

00:26:34yes,

00:26:35there's

00:26:36a lot

00:26:37of

00:26:38maneuvering

00:26:39to do.

00:26:40And

00:26:41yes,

00:26:42there's

00:26:43a lot

00:26:44of

00:26:45maneuvering

00:26:46to do.

00:26:47And

00:26:48yes,

00:26:49there's

00:26:50a lot

00:26:51of

00:26:52maneuvering

00:26:53to do.

00:26:54And

00:26:55yes,

00:26:56there's

00:26:57a lot

00:26:58of

00:26:59maneuvering

00:27:00to do.

00:27:01And

00:27:02yes,

00:27:03there's

00:27:04a lot

00:27:05of

00:27:06maneuvering

00:27:07to do.

00:27:08And

00:27:09yes,

00:27:10there's

00:27:11a lot

00:27:12of

00:27:13maneuvering

00:27:14to do.

00:27:15And

00:27:16yes,

00:27:17there's

00:27:18a lot

00:27:19of

00:27:20maneuvering

00:27:21to do.

00:27:22And

00:27:23yes,

00:27:24there's

00:27:25a lot

00:27:26of

00:27:27maneuvering

00:27:28to do.

00:27:29And

00:27:30yes,

00:27:31there's

00:27:32a lot

00:27:33of

00:27:34maneuvering

00:27:35to do.

00:27:36And

00:27:37yes,

00:27:38there's

00:27:39a lot

00:27:40of

00:27:41maneuvering

00:27:42to do.

00:27:43And

00:27:44yes,

00:27:45there's

00:27:46a lot

00:27:47of

00:27:48maneuvering

00:27:49to do.

00:27:50And

00:27:51yes,

00:27:52there's

00:27:53a lot

00:27:54of

00:27:55maneuvering

00:27:56to do.

00:27:57And

00:27:58yes,

00:27:59there's

00:28:00a lot

00:28:01of

00:28:02maneuvering

00:28:03to do.

00:28:04And

00:28:05yes,

00:28:06there's

00:28:07a lot

00:28:08of

00:28:09maneuvering

00:28:10to do.

00:28:11And

00:28:12yes,

00:28:13there's

00:28:14a lot

00:28:15of

00:28:16maneuvering

00:28:17to do.

00:28:18And

00:28:19yes,

00:28:20there's

00:28:21a lot

00:28:22of

00:28:23maneuvering

00:28:24to do.

00:28:25And

00:28:26yes,

00:28:27there's

00:28:28a lot

00:28:29of

00:28:30maneuvering

00:28:31to do.

00:28:32And

00:28:33yes,

00:28:34there's

00:28:35a lot

00:28:36of

00:28:37maneuvering

00:28:38to do.

00:28:39And

00:28:40yes,

00:28:41there's

00:28:42a lot

00:28:43of

00:28:44maneuvering

00:28:45to do.

00:28:46And

00:28:47yes,

00:28:48there's

00:28:49a lot

00:28:50of

00:28:51maneuvering

00:28:52to do.

00:28:53And

00:28:54yes,

00:28:55there's

00:28:56a lot

00:28:57of

00:28:58maneuvering

00:28:59to do.

00:29:00And

00:29:01yes,

00:29:02there's

00:29:03a lot

00:29:04of

00:29:05maneuvering

00:29:06to do.

00:29:07And

00:29:08yes,

00:29:09there's

00:29:10a lot

00:29:11of

00:29:12maneuvering

00:29:13to do.

00:29:14And

00:29:15yes,

00:29:16there's

00:29:17a lot

00:29:18of

00:29:20maneuvering

00:29:21to do.

00:29:22And

00:29:23yes,

00:29:24there's

00:29:25a lot

00:29:26of

00:29:27maneuvering

00:29:28to do.

00:29:29And

00:29:30yes,

00:29:31there's

00:29:32a lot

00:29:33of

00:29:34maneuvering

00:29:35to do.

00:29:36And

00:29:37yes,

00:29:38there's

00:29:39a lot

00:29:40of

00:29:41maneuvering

00:29:42to do.

00:29:43And

00:29:44yes,

00:29:45there's

00:29:46a lot

00:29:47of

00:29:48maneuvering

00:29:49to

00:29:50do.

00:29:51And

00:29:52yes,

00:29:53there's

00:29:54a lot

00:29:55of

00:29:56maneuvering

00:29:57to do.

00:29:58And

00:29:59yes,

00:30:00there's

00:30:01just

00:30:02a lot

00:30:03of

00:30:04maneuvering

00:30:05to do.

00:30:06And

00:30:07yeah,

00:30:08there's

00:30:09a lot

00:30:10of

00:30:11maneuvering

00:30:12to do.

00:30:13And

00:30:14just

00:30:15like

00:30:16add

00:30:17And the very recent examples of the characters, environments, they are so photorealistic that sometimes it's very hard to see the difference between the real world and the final picture.

00:30:32But on the other hand, there are still requirements, technical requirements, and limitations of the different platforms, new computers, players' computers as well.

00:30:42So we will apply all the knowledge, all the experience we have to mix the movies industry and game industry to use not only the technical solutions, but the storytelling solutions, cameras, movement, the narration, just to make it as cool as possible, as realistic as possible.

00:31:06When we are talking only about the technology, so I think right now Unreal Engine provides the best solutions to achieve that. So we are experimenting a lot with the limits and pushing these limits as much as possible. So I hope you will be glad with the results, at least inspired.

00:31:33Basically nothing to add.

00:31:37Speaking of the cool effects, I think I had a pleasure, no, I had a pleasure, it was a pleasure to be a part of the process in Motion Capture Studio. So what's your experience of that day?

00:31:51You definitely can think about another career.

00:31:58We're still in this topic.

00:32:01Yes.

00:32:02Still in the negotiation.

00:32:05Because it was great. It wasn't like, okay, let's test it or let's try it. You just had literally fun.

00:32:11This is the best moment. You should just have a look. Let's watch it.

00:32:15We just need to measure our actress to understand the real physical size of the body, then put all this information to the computer and to create the same skeleton for the upcoming motion capture session.

00:32:46Okay, now we need to fit all the...

00:32:51Triniki.

00:32:52All the triniki.

00:32:54All the triniki.

00:32:55To the right position.

00:32:56Okay.

00:32:57This specific one independent in terms of the optical tracking. You don't need cameras. So you're quite free. It's like a total freedom for the motion capture.

00:33:17For me personally, I like it. You can go outside and run in the forest. It's very hard to simulate forest in the studio. You cannot just literally put millions of trees in the studio and just run between these trees.

00:33:31They punch you.

00:33:32But with this one, you can do that.

00:33:34We worked a lot with the celebrities, Dolph Lundgren, Korn, Sabaton, Offscreen. We shot a lot of videos.

00:33:41Wow.

00:33:43Nice.

00:33:45So we created effects for different movies. Now we just want to concentrate all this experience and bring it here and tell the perfect story and do our best to bring this experience to gamers.

00:33:58And now you can make several fights. You can show jumping, moving. At the same moment, camera in front of your face recording all your emotions.

00:34:19Normally, you have one screen when actor can see actually.

00:34:23Yeah.

00:34:24Or not.

00:34:25Normally, we don't record motion capture inside the cage.

00:34:28Oh, yeah.

00:34:29You can see your digital double here.

00:34:37Great one. I need something like that in my home.

00:34:40Why not? It's very cool for the trainings. And when we use Unreal Engine, we cannot show this generic body, but we can literally show the character.

00:34:51I have no idea what I'm doing, but it's fun.

00:34:54You just generated a ton of data.

00:34:56Yeah, I know.

00:34:58For the solving.

00:35:09Nice.

00:35:10Nice.

00:35:11This is nice.

00:35:12This is nice. All right.

00:35:14Sorry.

00:35:15It's okay. It's okay. No problem.

00:35:18All right. So now we can solve it.

00:35:21Now solve it.

00:35:24Wow.

00:35:25The result is really cool.

00:35:26You can see that even small movements of the shoulders, of the head, everything is okay.

00:35:32What is usually...

00:35:33Oh, I'm good.

00:35:34Yeah.

00:35:35Yes.

00:35:36Yes.

00:35:37It's too low.

00:35:38We will definitely...

00:35:39My knee is perfect.

00:35:41You were asking about non-cap actors, but you know...

00:35:44You can do that.

00:35:45Yes. Really?

00:35:46Yeah.

00:35:47Do you record it? Did you record it? Do we have it on tape?

00:35:50Yeah.

00:35:51You can definitely do that.

00:35:53Okay.

00:35:54We can literally then replace this character with, I don't know, a game character or somebody else and just create a video.

00:36:02High five. Thanks.

00:36:04Whoa.

00:36:05And high five.

00:36:06Nice.

00:36:07Nice.

00:36:08We got it.

00:36:16I don't know if I'm proud of the effect, but you're the experts.

00:36:21Tell me about your thoughts.

00:36:23I think it was great, so feel free and...

00:36:27Where can I send my CV?

00:36:28You can do it just after the recording.

00:36:30Okay, thanks.

00:36:31No problem here.

00:36:33Thank you, guys.

00:36:51What do you think makes people in the world want to reach for it more and more and are interested in it?

00:36:57It comes from the fact that the authors of fantasy in Poland started as fans of fantasy.

00:37:05And they read a lot.

00:37:07They read world literature, English literature, but then we didn't realize that what we have at our disposal is just cream.

00:37:18Publishers who have limited resources choose the best things.

00:37:23And we were convinced that every Western author is a class of Bradbury or Aldiss or Zelazny or whoever,

00:37:35because that's the only thing we got.

00:37:38And our own specificity was added to it.

00:37:42I mean, we developed our own topos, much more original.

00:37:49Because abroad, if someone wanted to write fantasy, they started with something that was based on something.

00:37:56And these were things that have their own structure.

00:38:00It's known that it works.

00:38:02So that we didn't know that, we developed our own structures.

00:38:06So our fantasy is just very original.

00:38:09What is so special about it that it attracts us so much?

00:38:12Very different things.

00:38:14We are open to the world, but at the same time we are closed.

00:38:19On the Internet, on YouTube, in social media.

00:38:24And we use this openness to the world less than it seems.

00:38:29Because the world has become very complicated.

00:38:33Few people understand what's going on here.

00:38:37Especially in recent years, when many things have gone out of control.

00:38:41And fantasy is a source of emotions, okay.

00:38:47But in a way more understandable than what we deal with every day.

00:38:53So it provides security.

00:38:55It provides security and at the same time provides emotions.

00:39:02On the pages of a book?

00:39:03On the pages of a book or on the screen.

00:39:05Let's move on to Mr. Lodowy Ogrod.

00:39:08Is it science fiction or fantasy?

00:39:11It's a complicated thing.

00:39:14It would also be difficult for me to answer the question without making a shameful spoiler.

00:39:19But it is science fiction to a large extent.

00:39:27When you deal with it, you get the impression that you are still in the world of fantasy.

00:39:33There, the world has some mysteries that are only revealed at the end.

00:39:39I also wanted to move so smoothly to the question of Midgard as a planet

00:39:44on which the action of the story takes place.

00:39:47What could we tell our viewers?

00:39:49What will they find so unique in this Midgard?

00:39:52Apart from the basic ontological mystery of the world, which I will not reveal,

00:39:58I tried to build this world as wide as possible.

00:40:06There are different cultures, different languages.

00:40:10There are several of these cultures.

00:40:11They are all quite elaborate and colorful.

00:40:14I wanted the reader to have the impression that apart from what he sees,

00:40:19which was described by the narrator,

00:40:21there is a corner somewhere.

00:40:23We have a living world.

00:40:24We have a living world.

00:40:25There are more plans, more places, more landscapes.

00:40:28It's not just what the hero is going through at the moment.

00:40:32It was important for me that there were no ghosts.

00:40:36Everyone had to have their own character, their own personality.

00:40:40Everyone had to be someone.

00:40:42It was not a third-party statistic, whose task was only to fill the background.

00:40:48What about places you like to go back to?

00:40:53Of course, to the coast of Żagl.

00:40:55This is my favorite place.

00:40:59I would be very curious to see a visualized ice rink.

00:41:04It will be there.

00:41:07Have you ever thought about your story as a content that can be transferred to other media?

00:41:16I didn't think about games.

00:41:18However, I often thought about visualization,

00:41:20because I had to imagine this world all the time.

00:41:25I had it so much in front of my eyes

00:41:28that I could be very dissatisfied with some illustrations,

00:41:31because it was not in this climate, as I imagined it.

00:41:37I thought it was not similar to anything, certainly not to Mr. Ice Garden.

00:41:45Visualization, whether it was a movie, a comic book or a game,

00:41:53I had it in the back of my mind and I always thought about it.

00:41:58So we looked for someone who could be interested in such a project.

00:42:05And there were different proposals, which were not satisfactory for us.

00:42:12Because we decided that we were not in a hurry,

00:42:16we would wait for the right contractor and partner,

00:42:21because we wanted this game to be wow,

00:42:24to be something, to be well done,

00:42:27to play well, to satisfy the player,

00:42:32and for me to be satisfied with the visualization of the world.

00:42:36I would say, yes, it could look like this.

00:42:40And we came to the conclusion that this could be it.

00:42:44Do you play at all?

00:42:46No.

00:42:47Did you play?

00:42:48No.

00:42:49Will you play our game?

00:42:51I won't be able to.

00:42:52We'll show you.

00:42:57Can we zoom in a little?

00:42:59Yes, yes.

00:43:00So you can see the details.

00:43:02And did you like the idea of the capsule?

00:43:05It was very good.

00:43:06I was afraid it would be too small,

00:43:08that it would barely fit in there.

00:43:13It looks as if such a capsule could look like this.

00:43:19It even has an ablation cover at the bottom.

00:43:22The guys did a lot of research on this topic.

00:43:25That was our goal.

00:43:27To make it believable.

00:43:29To make it believable, yes.

00:43:31You had to replace the kiss in the glass with something.

00:43:35Yes, yes.

00:43:37Is it true that I'm giving this creation back?

00:43:39Yes, it could be.

00:43:40Absolutely.

00:43:42What is this exactly?

00:43:44A boss.

00:43:45At this moment, it's a boss.

00:43:48Yes, one of the heroes.

00:43:58Tomek, show us what you're working on at the moment.

00:44:01Boss Fight.

00:44:02The first Mother of Monsters.

00:44:04We're creating an arena where the fight will take place.

00:44:08A dynamic, fast fight.

00:44:10And we want the bow to be visible.

00:44:14Like during a fight.

00:44:17The accuracy is important.

00:44:19The player must know that he will never be punished

00:44:22for an animation error.

00:44:24Every movement must be perfectly reproduced.

00:44:27That's the specificity of this genre.

00:44:29I'm calculating the force applied to the player

00:44:31at the moment of the jump.

00:44:33What did you try to calculate?

00:44:35We tried to calculate it in a three-dimensional space

00:44:39using gravity and other vectors,

00:44:41applying vectors to calculate

00:44:43exactly where the player will land.

00:44:45We were able to prepare a map for this.

00:44:49It was a great experience.

00:44:54Now, thanks to the game, thanks to the new medium,

00:44:57the whole new generation can finally touch

00:45:00the Lord of the Glaciers in a different form.

00:45:03Maybe in a more accessible form.

00:45:06How do you approach this?

00:45:08We saw with our own eyes

00:45:11how the whole generation started to read it fanatically

00:45:14thanks to Harry Potter.

00:45:16And it turned out that it's not true

00:45:18that children don't read.

00:45:20They must have something to read.

00:45:22They must have something to read, exactly.

00:45:24And to find out what it is,

00:45:26sometimes they have to see it first.

00:45:28When we talk about the young generation,

00:45:31what can the older generation

00:45:33or the younger generation

00:45:35learn from your story?

00:45:38The values that appear in The Lord of the Glaciers

00:45:41are simple values.

00:45:44And they are timeless.

00:45:49It's dealing with the adversities of fate.

00:45:54Loyalty.

00:45:55To friends and comrades in arms.

00:46:00Having a defined goal

00:46:03on an ethical level.

00:46:05I mean, there are things that we do,

00:46:07there are things that...

00:46:08Boundaries.

00:46:09Boundaries.

00:46:11Some kind of universal ethics.

00:46:15Put to the test,

00:46:17because this hero is thrown into a dangerous world,

00:46:19into dangerous situations.

00:46:22He has to fight

00:46:23and at the same time

00:46:24save humanity

00:46:25and save his moral circle.

00:46:28And these are things

00:46:30that never change.

00:46:32You can change them by force,

00:46:35but it's not true.

00:46:37It's fiction.

00:46:39How do you look at the issue

00:46:41of our technological development?

00:46:43Because here we will use

00:46:45various technologies,

00:46:47primarily related to visualization.

00:46:49We will use the X-Sense combination,

00:46:52so how do you see this change

00:46:55in recent years

00:46:57from the perspective

00:46:59of a science fiction writer?

00:47:01Let me put it this way,

00:47:03it may sound a bit impolite,

00:47:05but technological development,

00:47:08when it comes to graphics,

00:47:10when it comes to animation,

00:47:12in a sense,

00:47:13has grown up to books like mine.

00:47:16I mean, you need to have

00:47:18this type of technology

00:47:20and this type of equipment

00:47:21to be tempted

00:47:22and do something

00:47:23that will be adequate.

00:47:25So I'm very happy about it.

00:47:27I am full of admiration

00:47:29when I see these animations.

00:47:31I still remember special effects

00:47:34that were basically

00:47:36only on Mechatronika.

00:47:39Fire was some kind of

00:47:40dancing jelly,

00:47:42smoke was just kleks,

00:47:44and water was also

00:47:46some kind of jelly,

00:47:48and at the moment

00:47:50a character comes out of the water

00:47:52and we see that she is wet.

00:47:54We will soon see a cold fog

00:47:56thanks to this.

00:47:58And such things were impossible

00:48:00with people.

00:48:01At the moment, smoke is smoke.

00:48:02And AI?

00:48:03Doesn't it scare you,

00:48:04this kind of digital?

00:48:06Of course it scares me.

00:48:08I was supposed to put something

00:48:10into my head

00:48:12that was supposed to help me,

00:48:13but it does a hell of a lot.

00:48:14And it can really

00:48:15force me to do something.

00:48:17Or someone can take over

00:48:18this control.

00:48:20And Wuko agrees with that.

00:48:22He is, let's say,

00:48:24a generation ahead of us.

00:48:26He is already used to such things.

00:48:29He learned to live in times like ours

00:48:31and to keep himself at it.

00:48:33He doesn't adapt.

00:48:35Above all, he is

00:48:37an extreme individualist.

00:48:39He can't be manipulated,

00:48:41he can't be forced to do something,

00:48:45to fulfill a mission,

00:48:47a command.

00:48:49He has to be convinced

00:48:51that it is right or wrong.

00:48:54He will do what is necessary

00:48:56or what he thinks is right.

00:48:58There is no other way.

00:49:00He would have to be

00:49:01a very difficult person

00:49:02on a daily basis.

00:49:04That was my assumption.

00:49:05And I don't know exactly

00:49:06how the game works,

00:49:07whether it will be possible

00:49:08to convey it.

00:49:09Yes, Wuko as a character

00:49:11is a landmark for us

00:49:13when it comes to

00:49:14conveying a certain content

00:49:16to the player.

00:49:18And that's great.

00:49:19That's what I mean.

00:49:20Wuko is supposed to be

00:49:21the man in the book,

00:49:23because we like him personally.

00:49:25That's it.

00:49:26And I'm counting on it.

00:49:28OK.

00:49:29That's all from me.

00:49:30I would like to thank you again,

00:49:32first of all,

00:49:33for Mr. Lodowy Ogród,

00:49:34for the material

00:49:35we will be working on.

00:49:36Great job.

00:49:37Thanks.

00:49:38Thank you too.

00:49:39I'm looking forward to our cooperation.

00:49:43And I welcome you

00:49:44in our fandom,

00:49:45cozy corner.

00:49:47This is our element.

00:49:49Ours,

00:49:50because I have with me

00:49:51Maria Lengren,

00:49:52publisher,

00:49:53editor,

00:49:54translator of comics

00:49:55and co-author of a podcast

00:49:57whose name I will not say yet

00:49:59so as not to spoil the surprise.

00:50:00Hello.

00:50:01Good morning, everyone.

00:50:02And Tomasz Kołodziejczak,

00:50:03writer,

00:50:04publicist,

00:50:05publisher,

00:50:06fandom activist,

00:50:07human institution.

00:50:09Good morning.

00:50:10Good morning.

00:50:11Referring to the interview

00:50:12with Jarosław Grzędowicz,

00:50:14the question is,

00:50:15Mr. Lodowy Ogród,

00:50:16why do you think

00:50:18Jarosław Grzędowicz's tetralogy

00:50:20is such a grateful material

00:50:22for game adaptation,

00:50:24or maybe not just game adaptation,

00:50:25Maria?

00:50:26In my opinion,

00:50:27first of all,

00:50:28it is an incredibly capacious world

00:50:30and incredibly densely populated,

00:50:33really very grateful

00:50:35for game adaptation creatures.

00:50:37But what is more important for me

00:50:40is also the possibility of identifying

00:50:43with the hero,

00:50:44who is so important in the game,

00:50:46on such a meta-level,

00:50:47because he is a hero

00:50:49from outside the fantasy world

00:50:51with a very contemporary mindset

00:50:54and quite contemporary problems

00:50:57with which he came to this planet

00:50:59and has to immerse himself in it

00:51:01and deal with it

00:51:02and fulfill his tasks in it.

00:51:04So he is a bit in a similar position

00:51:07as a player

00:51:08who enters a new reality

00:51:11created by game designers.

00:51:14So this is a really cool opportunity

00:51:17not only to like the hero,

00:51:20but also to be in a wider dimension with him.

00:51:24When 40 years ago

00:51:25with young Jarek,

00:51:26ten-year-old Jarek Grzędowicz,

00:51:28we discussed our stories

00:51:30on story-writing machines,

00:51:32we did not expect

00:51:33that in a few decades

00:51:34computer games

00:51:35would be based on these texts.

00:51:37We did not expect

00:51:38that every computer would have one at home.

00:51:40And I am very happy

00:51:41that Jarek's story

00:51:42will be adapted to the needs of the game,

00:51:44because I think

00:51:45it perfectly fulfills

00:51:47all the conditions

00:51:48that a good story

00:51:50and a good computer adaptation

00:51:52of a story must meet.

00:51:54It gives a fantastic,

00:51:56diverse,

00:51:57scenographic world

00:51:59with a lot of civilization,

00:52:01interesting characters,

00:52:03great accessories.

00:52:04And it gives the possibility

00:52:06to lead this hero

00:52:08through the nooks of this world

00:52:10and get to know this world.

00:52:12I think it will be a breakthrough.

00:52:14Do you have the impression

00:52:15that you can use

00:52:17the origin of the main character

00:52:18in an interesting way?

00:52:19Finnish, Croatian, Polish?

00:52:21I think that

00:52:22the sum of the components

00:52:24of Wuko's personality,

00:52:25not only his origin,

00:52:26is a very grateful material

00:52:28for creating the hero of the game,

00:52:31which has this Slavic,

00:52:33Finnish charm in it.

00:52:36It's definitely a character

00:52:38that is very likeable.

00:52:40And it's nice that these features,

00:52:42this indomitability,

00:52:44this standing by your side,

00:52:47are what we meet every day

00:52:49among our friends

00:52:51from a similar cultural circle.

00:52:53We will also be able to show it

00:52:54more widely in the world.

00:52:56This origin serves the whole of Europe

00:52:58from the north to the south

00:53:00with a central point in Poland.

00:53:02We have Finland and Croatia.

00:53:04And in general,

00:53:05such heroes who are mixed,

00:53:07who come from different cultures,

00:53:08from different countries,

00:53:09have different experiences,

00:53:11are certainly great figures

00:53:13to tell very complex stories,

00:53:15to show them in a specific,

00:53:17original way,

00:53:18with this local background,

00:53:20also local culture

00:53:22and local history.

00:53:23Staying with the famous titles

00:53:25of Fantasy and game adaptations,

00:53:27we now have something

00:53:28really special to present,

00:53:29something that I think

00:53:31a lot of people have been waiting for

00:53:33and probably won't even say a word about it.

00:53:36You already know what it will be.

00:53:38And without revealing to the viewers

00:53:40who will see it in a moment,

00:53:42if you had to say one sentence

00:53:44related to what is about to happen.

00:53:48Heroes who have been very active

00:53:51so far only in my head,

00:53:53and whom I have seen so far

00:53:55only in frozen poses,

00:53:57finally have a chance to come to life

00:53:59and show themselves in three dimensions.

00:54:03There is a frame,

00:54:04which has changed the way of thinking

00:54:06about the comics of the whole generation of Poles,

00:54:09including mine.

00:54:12And this frame will finally be launched.

00:54:15Let's see it then.

00:54:30Waters, hide the truth

00:54:41All your hopes and dreams

00:55:00Waters, hide the truth

00:55:18So we are in this dark and lyrical mood.

00:55:22And in our studio,

00:55:23Marcin Grzegórski, co-founder of Mighty Coins Studio.

00:55:26Welcome.

00:55:27Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

00:55:28Since Torgal has already entered the carpet,

00:55:31of course, we will talk about him.

00:55:33Where did the idea for the adaptation of this character,

00:55:36these comics, come from?

00:55:38And was it difficult to get such an IP?

00:55:41I think it's destiny.

00:55:43I think Torgal's time has come.

00:55:46I think the world needs another epic story,

00:55:49which we can show you in a short time.

00:55:54I think it's crucial for us

00:55:56when it comes to building Polish gamedev,

00:55:59where we base on Polish stories,

00:56:01Polish-Belgian stories in this case.

00:56:04However, I have the impression that this is an IP

00:56:06that has a chance to achieve global success

00:56:09because of how rich it is,

00:56:11how expressive its characters are

00:56:13and what these characters represent.

00:56:15There are many such universal values

00:56:17that we can read in Torgal.

00:56:21Are they the most important ones

00:56:23that you wanted to transfer to your game?

00:56:25Yes, we want to build the whole game

00:56:27based on the fact that Torgal is a family man.

00:56:30For him, his whole life is a family,

00:56:32it's a fight for his wife, for his children,

00:56:34for building this friendly home.

00:56:37However, gods, history, fate

00:56:40have different plans for him.

00:56:42However, this is a story of value

00:56:44because of what this man represents.

00:56:47How he behaves towards random people,

00:56:50that he tries not to kill, not to hurt.

00:56:53This is a character that the world currently needs.

00:56:55These are values that we should have

00:56:57rooted from the beginning of our lives.

00:56:59You mentioned an interesting thing,

00:57:01that he tries not to kill, not to hurt.

00:57:03It is difficult to build a game based on a protagonist

00:57:05who is a character rather pacifistically

00:57:07set to the world.

00:57:09Was it a difficulty of this kind?

00:57:11It is indeed a great difficulty

00:57:13to build a character that at the same time

00:57:16shows these values through gameplay.

00:57:19Creating mechanics that enable

00:57:21to neutralize the opponent

00:57:23and at the same time not to hurt him

00:57:25is difficult.

00:57:27Of course, we try to make the player

00:57:29choose which book he wants to follow.

00:57:31Should Torgal be a family man

00:57:33or should he be a completely different character

00:57:35that the player will come up with?

00:57:37Of course, every decision

00:57:39that we make in the game

00:57:41will have its consequences.

00:57:43It is a big problem for these games

00:57:45to be interesting,

00:57:47to flow, to be dynamic,

00:57:49to be interesting enough

00:57:51for the player to want to stay

00:57:53until the end of the adventure,

00:57:55to want to know the end of the story.

00:57:57I think that the key here is

00:57:59to build the clarity of the character,

00:58:01but also the scenario of what will happen

00:58:03to Torgal in this game.

00:58:05The desire to explore the world,

00:58:07to interact with the characters

00:58:09that we meet by chance,

00:58:11the desire to immerse ourselves

00:58:13in Torgal through other products,

00:58:15not only games.

00:58:17The desire to go back to the comic book,

00:58:19the desire to compare it.

00:58:21The desire for the player to feel

00:58:23the hunger of this adventure all the time.

00:58:25I think this is the most important thing.

00:58:27I think that games turn

00:58:29the direction of filmmaking very much.

00:58:31That's why for us, for our studio,

00:58:33animations are key

00:58:35to show this expression, this emotion.

00:58:37Facial expressions.

00:58:39We have developed a special technology

00:58:41just to focus on the faces,

00:58:43where we see the smallest change of emotions,

00:58:45where we want to show these emotions

00:58:47through the interaction

00:58:49of various characters in the story.

00:58:51This is the key, in my opinion,

00:58:53and at the same time the scenario.

00:58:55The scenario that the comic book gives us,

00:58:57which tells really great stories,

00:58:59it is electrifying.

00:59:01The stories that are shown in the comic book

00:59:03are incredibly deep,

00:59:05incredibly intense.

00:59:07We have a lot of material

00:59:09that we could use.

00:59:11The problem is that

00:59:13we won't be able to put everything

00:59:15in the hours that we plan to do.

00:59:17Perhaps this is also the basis

00:59:19to make another part,

00:59:21maybe a few.

00:59:23We'll see how it goes with the first one.

00:59:25The first one will also answer the question

00:59:27whether we really did it

00:59:29and met the expectations of the audience.

00:59:31However, the interaction, for sure.

00:59:33We definitely want to talk to the community

00:59:35so that things appear in this game

00:59:37that they value in this Torgal.

00:59:39This is important.

00:59:41Since we're talking about the community

00:59:43and the fanbase.

00:59:45A big one,

00:59:47definitely strong in Europe,

00:59:49but not the youngest,

00:59:51as for the players.

00:59:53Yes, this is an interesting story

00:59:55because Torgal in the 90s

00:59:57was considered one of the strongest

00:59:59IPs in Poland.

01:00:01In those days it was more recognizable

01:00:03than The Witcher by Sapkowski.

01:00:05This also gives a certain understanding

01:00:07of what is happening at the moment.

01:00:09The main group that recognizes

01:00:11this IP are people

01:00:13aged 35-50

01:00:15who grew up on this Torgal.

01:00:17Our main task

01:00:19is to show this IP

01:00:21to the younger audience

01:00:23who currently mainly buy

01:00:25computer games.

01:00:27This is the whole trick

01:00:29to adapt what we see in the comic

01:00:31to the current times

01:00:33and to make it a clear message

01:00:35for the new audience.

01:00:37I hope that

01:00:39those who read about Torgal

01:00:41will come back to play the game

01:00:43and experience this adventure

01:00:45in a different medium.

01:00:47I asked you about this at the beginning

01:00:49but you answered cleverly.

01:00:51How do you get such a big IP?

01:00:53Is it a difficult process?

01:00:55How many studios do you have to compete with?

01:00:57It's a race of weapons

01:00:59and tuning of feathers.

01:01:01No matter how you look at it,

01:01:03there is someone who manages this IP

01:01:05and has a lot of freedom of choice.

01:01:07You have to build a strong trust.

01:01:09Respect for the creators

01:01:11is extremely important.

01:01:13We have the pleasure of working

01:01:15with outstanding creators.

01:01:17Grzegorz Rośniński is a legend in itself.

01:01:19Piotr Rośniński is a man

01:01:21who is responsible for

01:01:23the development of this IP

01:01:25and for the development of the community.

01:01:27There were a lot of meetings

01:01:29and conversations.

01:01:31A bond was born between us

01:01:33and it showed that we trust each other.

01:01:35This trust is built

01:01:37through our relations.

01:01:39It is important for us

01:01:41not to disappoint the author

01:01:43and at the same time to promote this IP.

01:01:45I think he deserves it.

01:01:47Not only because it is interesting

01:01:49but also because it can

01:01:51bring something from himself.

01:01:53It can improve us as people.

01:01:55I think we need role models

01:01:57like Torga

01:01:59when we are struggling with wars,

01:02:01with economic crises

01:02:03where trust is lost.

01:02:05I think it is worth showing Torga

01:02:07at this moment.

01:02:09I think it is his destiny

01:02:11to emerge at this moment.

01:02:13It is electrifying for me.

01:02:15How would you describe

01:02:17the mood in the game?

01:02:19You say there will be

01:02:21chases, wars, shootings,

01:02:23chases, explosions,

01:02:25what other people like.

01:02:27Of course, there will be such elements.

01:02:29We want to show people

01:02:31that the world is cool

01:02:33in these calm moments

01:02:35and at the same time

01:02:37throw him into the deep water

01:02:39because there is a whirlwind of events

01:02:41and you have to react.

01:02:43We all behave well

01:02:45when it is nice and safe

01:02:47but people get to know

01:02:49certain events

01:02:51that affect their families,

01:02:53their environment.

01:02:55We want to show Torga

01:02:57as a person you can always count on.

01:02:59He always reacts to the harm

01:03:01of other people

01:03:03and always helps.

01:03:05There is a million discussions

01:03:07that we have all the time

01:03:09to make the IP well received

01:03:11and at the same time

01:03:13keep the character of the comic.

01:03:15It is hellishly difficult.

01:03:17Creating expressive characters

01:03:19through the model,

01:03:21where we have the possibility

01:03:23of customization of these characters,

01:03:25we change it all the time

01:03:27and I think we will change it

01:03:29and polish it for many months.

01:03:31But the point is

01:03:33that these IPs,

01:03:35despite being based on the same story,

01:03:37were completely different

01:03:39but at the same time

01:03:41they referred to each other

01:03:43and at the same time

01:03:45they were contemporary.

01:03:47There are many problems

01:03:49that we discuss together

01:03:51and Grzegorz Rośnicki

01:03:53helped us to achieve this cooperation.

01:03:55At the end, I would like to ask you

01:03:57if Torgal will be as popular

01:03:59or maybe even more popular

01:04:01than our Polish Witcher?

01:04:03I think that the fate of The Witcher

01:04:05and our Torgal

01:04:07are very similar.

01:04:09The whole etymology

01:04:11of the CD Projekt

01:04:13is very similar

01:04:15to what we are trying to do.

01:04:17It is a great example for us.

01:04:19I think Torgal should follow

01:04:21Geralt's footsteps.

01:04:23It has a huge chance

01:04:25because there is

01:04:27a huge need for such games.

01:04:29When I finished The Witcher 3

01:04:31I felt a great lack of satisfaction

01:04:33and I would like to play it for a long time.

01:04:35I think the fans feel the same

01:04:37and that's why Torgal can be

01:04:39a complement.

01:04:41I would like to have

01:04:43an equal,

01:04:45partner rivalry

01:04:47that can help both sides.

01:04:49Of course, it's us who are chasing

01:04:51and not them chasing us.

01:04:53Thank you very much.

01:04:55It was Marcin Grzegórski,

01:04:57co-founder of Mighty Goit Studio.

01:04:59And now we will connect

01:05:01with our fandom corner,

01:05:03our library,

01:05:05where Filip Malinowski is.

01:05:07The game Torgal.

01:05:09When we started our conversation,

01:05:11Mario, I said that you are

01:05:13co-hosting a podcast.

01:05:15I didn't say which one.

01:05:17I would like to start with you.

01:05:19What are your impressions

01:05:21after watching this teaser?

01:05:23I hope we will all talk

01:05:25about Torgal much more

01:05:27thanks to what we just saw.

01:05:29First of all, I was happy

01:05:31to see this huge space

01:05:33at the beginning

01:05:35that always struck me

01:05:37from Grzegorz Rosiński's drawings.

01:05:39I am happy to see

01:05:41this Torgal,

01:05:43whose look still seems

01:05:45to be a bit out of place,

01:05:47but he versus the world,

01:05:49versus extraordinary beings,

01:05:51which, of course,

01:05:53as it usually happens in Torgal,

01:05:55are always only a carrier

01:05:57for our very human problems,

01:05:59which is a huge strength

01:06:01of this series.

01:06:03But I am glad

01:06:05to see him here,

01:06:07exposed to the highest trials,

01:06:09just like in the series,

01:06:11but with such a willingness

01:06:13Tomasz?

01:06:15This frame is Torgal

01:06:17attached to a rock,

01:06:19but a witch's red hair

01:06:21was leaning over it.

01:06:23I am here.

01:06:25It's true.

01:06:27He leaned over Torgal.

01:06:29It promises to be great

01:06:31and I hope that this game adventure

01:06:33will take the next generations

01:06:35of readers, players,

01:06:37comic book lovers,

01:06:39just like my generation

01:06:41started about three years ago.

01:06:43So I am waiting.

01:06:45Finally, Torgal is coming.

01:06:47Tomasz, what are your expectations

01:06:49and hopes for this game?

01:06:51I would like it to

01:06:53bring the world of Torgal

01:06:55to the screens of computers

01:06:57or consoles,

01:06:59but also to keep

01:07:01a certain ethical and moral line

01:07:03in this comic book.

01:07:05I think it is very important.

01:07:07Adventure, fight, entertainment,

01:07:09sometimes humor,

01:07:11but also a clear message

01:07:13about what should be done

01:07:15and what should not be done,

01:07:17what is important in life

01:07:19and what is not.

01:07:21We will see how it will turn out

01:07:23for the creators of the game.

01:07:25I also hope that this

01:07:27ordinary layer that is

01:07:29extremely important in Torgal

01:07:31and which this rich world,

01:07:33this universe serves

01:07:35will be preserved,

01:07:37because this moral circle

01:07:39mentioned by Tomasz

01:07:41is extremely important for Torgal.

01:07:43And the fact that he,

01:07:45having to deal

01:07:47with incredible twists

01:07:49from space,

01:07:51from the celestial spheres,

01:07:53from underground,

01:07:55from many different dimensions,

01:07:57apart from various

01:07:59strict Viking rulers and wars,

01:08:01that he faces all this

01:08:03while remaining himself,

01:08:05is of an unobvious origin.

01:08:07So I hope that

01:08:09Torgal will remain

01:08:11so unbreakable,

01:08:13because he is a beacon of hope

01:08:15for us,

01:08:17who face

01:08:19an unpredictable world

01:08:21every day.

01:08:23And I see that Aga is already

01:08:25on stage, waiting for us,

01:08:27so we join Aga.

01:08:31And we are again

01:08:33in our studio, and it's time

01:08:35to talk a little about money.

01:08:37In our studio are

01:08:39Miłosz Białas, Senior Developer Relations Manager

01:08:41at AMD.

01:08:43Robert Łakuta, Vice-President

01:08:45of Fabryka Słów.

01:08:47And Tomasz Jędruszak,

01:08:49CDO of Mighty Koi.

01:08:51Mighty Koi wants to designate

01:08:53new directions,

01:08:55including helping partners.

01:08:57I would like us to talk about

01:08:59these new directions and plans at the beginning.

01:09:01First of all, we invest

01:09:03a lot in technology.

01:09:05We are not only a game development company,

01:09:07but we also have other pillars.

01:09:09So we have both

01:09:11an animation studio and a small software house,

01:09:13where, using only our

01:09:15internal resources, we are able

01:09:17to carry out the entire spectrum of game production.

01:09:19An additional pillar is

01:09:21outsource, i.e. both our animation studio

01:09:23and our software house

01:09:25offer a very high class

01:09:27of services for foreign companies.

01:09:29And this is the sector

01:09:31we want to exist in in the future.

01:09:33So about 80%

01:09:35of our services are provided

01:09:37to our external clients,

01:09:39when it comes to these two pillars.

01:09:41However, we use the rest of the resources

01:09:43to produce our own IPs,

01:09:45i.e. in this case, Torgal

01:09:47and Mr. Ice Garden.

01:09:49Speaking of IPs,

01:09:51based on wonderful books and comics,

01:09:53these games can be built,

01:09:55if you have such a foundation.

01:09:57Let's talk about the Fabryka Słów.

01:09:59Since when did the Fabryka Słów

01:10:01cooperate with Mighty Koi?

01:10:03How does it look like and how can it develop in the future?

01:10:05The book by Mr. Ice Garden,

01:10:07based on which Mighty Koi

01:10:09makes its game,

01:10:11is the best book published by

01:10:13the Fabryka Słów in more than 20 years.

01:10:15There are hundreds of thousands of copies,

01:10:17I don't know if not under a million or more,

01:10:19of these copies sold in Poland only,

01:10:21because this book is still

01:10:23not translated into English.

01:10:25We could not give this book away to anyone.

01:10:27During these years,

01:10:29because the first volume was published in 2005,

01:10:31there were many proposals

01:10:33to try to sell the rights

01:10:35to this book, the rights to games,

01:10:37to screenings,

01:10:39but all the time with Jarek Grzędowicz

01:10:41we could not decide on any proposal,

01:10:43because, as he said in his interview,

01:10:45it seemed to us that

01:10:47none of the proposals

01:10:49fits, even technologically,

01:10:51to the possibilities of this complex world

01:10:53in Mr. Ice Garden, for example.

01:10:55And only after talking with Mighty Koi

01:10:57it turned out that

01:10:59there was a light in the tunnel,

01:11:01a studio that would lift it,

01:11:03which firstly has a vision, secondly has a technology,

01:11:05and thirdly, we feel chemistry with them,

01:11:07that is, they give on similar waves

01:11:09as we do.

01:11:11Therefore, we decided

01:11:13to decide on this cooperation.

01:11:15And not only that, I think that this cooperation

01:11:17has greater possibilities

01:11:19than it seems at the moment.

01:11:21I mean, if this game

01:11:23will be a success,

01:11:25which we very much believe in,

01:11:27so will the second game, Torgal,

01:11:29then maybe we will use our potential

01:11:31and other activities

01:11:33around this product

01:11:35will appear,

01:11:37because now the world is such

01:11:39that the book competes, you know,

01:11:41with various media.

01:11:43However, we observe, thanks to this,

01:11:45an increase in interest, for example,

01:11:47in audiobooks and electronic content,

01:11:49so I think that

01:11:51the effect of this cooperation

01:11:53will also be the expansion

01:11:55of our activities in this direction,

01:11:57so that around these products

01:11:59a world is created,

01:12:01thanks to the Word Factory.

01:12:03Around, you circle, you circle, my dear,

01:12:05but I think I can more or less

01:12:07figure out the direction

01:12:09and what you are heading for,

01:12:11because we have Torgal comics,

01:12:13but we don't have books.

01:12:15And what you say about competition,

01:12:17I think that games also

01:12:19struggle with it a bit.

01:12:21They struggle.

01:12:23Torgal is, in my opinion,

01:12:25such a strong trend,

01:12:27because I read the first Torgals

01:12:29in the old days,

01:12:31as it turned out, in Relax,

01:12:33and it caused a huge tension

01:12:35in the whole community

01:12:37of these fans of fantasy,

01:12:39and it seems to me that

01:12:41you don't have to weigh

01:12:43these open doors here.

01:12:45I think it's a real hit.

01:12:47We also have to distinguish

01:12:49two brands in terms of reach.

01:12:51The brand of Mr. Garden

01:12:53is a completely unused diamond,

01:12:55which can really conquer the world.

01:12:57If this book had been translated

01:12:59into English earlier,

01:13:01probably the offers of games

01:13:03and movies would have been pouring in a long time ago.

01:13:05However, thanks to the fact

01:13:07that Mighty Coy will come in

01:13:09with such a strong product right away,

01:13:11it will practically take place

01:13:13in Poland and abroad.

01:13:15You have been emotionally

01:13:17associated with this book

01:13:19and the author of this book

01:13:21for 25 years.

01:13:23Since Mighty Coy's proposal

01:13:25was the best,

01:13:27something had to kill in the heart,

01:13:29because it seems to be a very important

01:13:31universe for you and a very important story.

01:13:33It means a lot,

01:13:35because Jarek Grzędowicz is also

01:13:37an important figure for me.

01:13:39We have known each other for a long time

01:13:41and he brought something

01:13:43unprecedented to this publishing house.

01:13:45At the beginning, we tried

01:13:47various other books from the fantasy field.

01:13:49He brought such epochal works

01:13:51comparable to Dune

01:13:53or The Lord of the Rings,

01:13:55something that was not yet

01:13:57available in the Polish market.

01:13:59Andrzej Sapkowski started with stories

01:14:01and then had some stories from it.

01:14:03However, Jarek Grzędowicz

01:14:05had a large, complex world

01:14:07constructed from the beginning.

01:14:09We decided to do everything

01:14:11to let people know about this book

01:14:13and read it.

01:14:15But our work required only publishing

01:14:17at some point.

01:14:19It happened in a blink of an eye

01:14:21and this book became one of the most popular

01:14:23fantasy books in Poland.

01:14:25But I can see that you are a huge fan

01:14:27because we can talk about the book

01:14:29until tomorrow.

01:14:31I am a fan of this book,

01:14:33like many people in Poland.

01:14:35I really want this book

01:14:37to become a game.

01:14:39A game reaches everyone

01:14:41regardless of time and territory.

01:14:43You can buy it, play it,

01:14:45pay for it and enjoy it.

01:14:47But everything goes further

01:14:49because people want to

01:14:51get to know this character.

01:14:53Books, audiobooks,

01:14:55merchandising...

01:14:57Video games!

01:14:59Video games, comics, everything.

01:15:01Let's go back to those games

01:15:03because we have a lot of fans

01:15:05and they love IP.

01:15:07But if IP and the production

01:15:09attract such partners,

01:15:11huge partners like AMD,

01:15:13I wonder if you felt

01:15:15that it is created by people

01:15:17who love this story

01:15:19and know how to move

01:15:21players' hearts.

01:15:23I can see that the hearts of people

01:15:25behind this project are already moved.

01:15:27The love for this production

01:15:29and this story is just pouring out.

01:15:31There were some criteria

01:15:33but we believe in these people

01:15:35and we believe in this project.

01:15:37Yes, but there is one more

01:15:39key argument.

01:15:41I am a technology guy

01:15:43so I will always come back to technology.

01:15:45Tomek mentioned that they use

01:15:47the latest solutions

01:15:49and the fact that both titles

01:15:51are based on the latest version

01:15:53of the Unreal engine is also

01:15:55an invaluable argument for us

01:15:57because this is the best

01:15:59on the market at the moment

01:16:01and we are aware

01:16:03that our technology

01:16:05allows us to make the best of it.

01:16:07So it was also much easier

01:16:09to support this project

01:16:11from our side

01:16:13because this technology is used for it.

01:16:15And there are a lot of animation techniques,

01:16:17photorealism,

01:16:19which is provided

01:16:21thanks to, among others,

01:16:23Mr. Smroja Studio,

01:16:25who were our guests today.

01:16:27I think I can convince you

01:16:29that if we are able to give back

01:16:31so much emotion,

01:16:33at least on the faces of our heroes,

01:16:35protagonists or NPCs,

01:16:37it also indicates a high level

01:16:39of technological advancement.

01:16:41And here, by the way,

01:16:43we can say right away

01:16:45that we support this project.

01:16:47As AMD, we are in a unique position

01:16:49because we have graphics cards,

01:16:51we have processors,

01:16:53so it is a technology that allows

01:16:55to drive artistic visions

01:16:57of our productions,

01:16:59but also the other pillars

01:17:01mentioned by Tomek,

01:17:03i.e. animation production

01:17:05or even programming itself.

01:17:07And what is particularly important

01:17:09is the fact that the studio

01:17:11also creates its own technologies,

01:17:13the so-called plugins,

01:17:15so it also indicates

01:17:17the maturity to use

01:17:19the potential of its people

01:17:21to get the most out of this technology

01:17:23for the needs of their productions,

01:17:25but also those of the future,

01:17:27which will eventually fall under the umbrella.

01:17:29I am extremely excited

01:17:31that these two fantastic worlds

01:17:33will find their reflection

01:17:35in video games for me,

01:17:37so that's why I'm spinning a little

01:17:39in the chair,

01:17:41because knowing that it will happen

01:17:43in the end, I just can't wait.

01:17:45And from the perspective

01:17:47of the position taken by me,

01:17:49AMD, I am glad that

01:17:51we can drive it technologically

01:17:53and make this vision

01:17:55simply find its place

01:17:57in video games.

01:17:59Great power and great responsibility,

01:18:01I have the impression,

01:18:03that flows from the words of our guests,

01:18:05who are your partners.

01:18:07How does it look from the side of MightyCoi,

01:18:09because we already know that

01:18:11both AMD and Fabryka Słów want to

01:18:13continue to build strong brands with you

01:18:15and see each other,

01:18:17I think I can say it easily,

01:18:19in a few years,

01:18:21because at one time

01:18:23there was a survey on the market,

01:18:25what players are really waiting for

01:18:27at the moment.

01:18:29And the two first titles

01:18:31that were on the top of this list

01:18:33were Torgal and The Night Wanderer.

01:18:35So in a way,

01:18:37it is a very big obligation for us

01:18:39to ensure that the expectations

01:18:41of our players

01:18:43will be met as much as possible.

01:18:45So having this whole ecosystem

01:18:47that supports us here,

01:18:49both animation and software house,

01:18:51from a technological point of view,

01:18:53we are able to deliver a game

01:18:55meeting the expectations

01:18:57of our players.

01:18:59Moreover,

01:19:01we are talking about a game here,

01:19:03but we also have to remember

01:19:05the whole concept of transmedia,

01:19:07that is, we are not only working on the game,

01:19:09but we will also focus

01:19:11on the original products,

01:19:13that is, when it comes to series or movies,

01:19:15because we want this whole ecosystem

01:19:17of titles to become more popular

01:19:19among fans,

01:19:21and probably also to get

01:19:23new fans of these two titles.

01:19:25What do you think,

01:19:27which markets do you want to talk about

01:19:29at the very beginning,

01:19:31which you think can be convinced

01:19:33of these quite specific IPs?

01:19:35Yes, I mean,

01:19:37I think, of course,

01:19:39we will start with the markets

01:19:41that are the most natural on our side,

01:19:43i.e. Torgal, which has been selling

01:19:45over 20 million copies,

01:19:47and every year

01:19:49more than 400,000 copies

01:19:51disappear from the shelves.

01:19:53However, these are definitely

01:19:55mainly French-language markets

01:19:57at the moment,

01:19:59but we definitely want to

01:20:01expand to Asia,

01:20:03i.e. China, Korea and Japan.

01:20:05These are markets that are

01:20:07as cool as possible,

01:20:09very interesting IPs,

01:20:11and we think here,

01:20:13these two IPs are so interesting

01:20:15that they will also

01:20:17stimulate the imagination of Asian markets.

01:20:19Since we have the latest

01:20:21and best technologies,

01:20:23the best stories, the best IPs on board,

01:20:25it can't go wrong, right?

01:20:27We believe in it very deeply.

01:20:29Of course, we also need

01:20:31players and community.

01:20:33Thank you very much, gentlemen,

01:20:35for a great conversation,

01:20:37and with this smooth step

01:20:39we will move to our fandom corner,

01:20:41where Filip Beskamat-Malinowski

01:20:43and his guests are already.

01:20:47And we are in our

01:20:49very cozy fandom corner,

01:20:51in our element.

01:20:53Dear, in your opinion,

01:20:55can we talk about something like

01:20:57the renaissance of Polish fantasy,

01:20:59not only in the book medium,

01:21:01but maybe actually

01:21:03especially in other media

01:21:05than books?

01:21:07I didn't feel anything like that,

01:21:09at least in my environment.

01:21:11Of course, because we are sitting

01:21:13in a fandom corner,

01:21:15it is a kind of a bubble,

01:21:17but I didn't feel the fall of

01:21:19the vitality of fantasy,

01:21:21so I don't know if it's a renaissance.

01:21:23However, I feel it,

01:21:25being at book fairs

01:21:27where it's not only about

01:21:29fantasy and science fiction,

01:21:31that it's still the backbone

01:21:33of reading in Poland,

01:21:35and that fantasy,

01:21:37such a fast-moving segment

01:21:39of literature,

01:21:41extends its boundaries.

01:21:43Beyond the classic dimension

01:21:45to which we were accustomed

01:21:47a dozen or so years ago,

01:21:49more and more fits

01:21:51under this concept.

01:21:53As a result, more and more readers

01:21:55also fall into it.

01:21:57The most important thing is that

01:21:59they are young, and therefore,

01:22:01at least if it's not a renaissance,

01:22:03it doesn't lean towards

01:22:05renaissance, that's for sure.

01:22:07Of course, the technological development,

01:22:09when it comes to special effects in the cinema,

01:22:11or the incredible leap

01:22:13of the possibility of visual representation

01:22:15in the game,

01:22:17does very well

01:22:19in fantasy.

01:22:21And stories like

01:22:23Grzędowicz's story

01:22:25are a dream

01:22:27for environmental storytelling

01:22:29in the game,

01:22:31so I think there will be

01:22:33more and more of it.

01:22:35Polish fantasy has always been strong.

01:22:37Lem, Sapkowski, Dukaj, hundreds of writers

01:22:39who have created their works

01:22:41over the last several decades.

01:22:43Literature is a cheap medium.

01:22:45There is an author with his head

01:22:47and a typewriter or a computer,

01:22:49so there were a lot of these books

01:22:51and they were very diverse.

01:22:53On the other hand, computer games or movies

01:22:55are media that require budgets,

01:22:57large investments,

01:22:59entire human teams,

01:23:01and now the time has come,

01:23:03after The Witcher's great success,

01:23:05the time has come for

01:23:07more Polish stories to be adapted

01:23:09to the needs of other media,

01:23:11on a much larger scale,

01:23:13on an international scale.

01:23:15So it's not a renaissance,

01:23:17it's a new step in the development

01:23:19of fantasy as a medium in Poland.

01:23:21Taking into account these two game adaptations

01:23:23that we have on the horizon,

01:23:25i.e. The Night Wanderer based on The Lord of the Glacier

01:23:27and Torgal,

01:23:29is it possible to launch

01:23:31an avalanche of game adaptations

01:23:33best done by Polish studios,

01:23:35but perhaps not only based on

01:23:37other works that we have

01:23:39in the catalogue of Polish fantasy?

01:23:41We know that

01:23:43more games are being created.

01:23:45These are two powerful brands,

01:23:47because Torgal is one of the most popular

01:23:49comics in Europe,

01:23:51but still the most popular in Poland.

01:23:53And The Lord of the Glacier

01:23:55is probably the biggest bestseller

01:23:57of the last 20 years,

01:23:59so the impact is huge.

01:24:01If these games are a success,

01:24:03then I think that

01:24:05the next producers,

01:24:07or maybe the same producer,

01:24:09will go further.

01:24:11We are waiting for it.

01:24:13Yes, I also think that

01:24:15the gates that have been opened

01:24:17by The Lord of the Glacier

01:24:19are opening up more and more.

01:24:21I especially hope that

01:24:23Polish comics will find,

01:24:25in the past and now,

01:24:27a wider entry into the gaming market,

01:24:29because they are often ready storyboards

01:24:31with really phenomenal visions

01:24:33of the worlds presented.

01:24:35Polish fantasy is extremely rich,

01:24:37because in Poland we have always

01:24:39had something to run away from

01:24:41for domestic emigration,

01:24:43and there is really

01:24:45something to draw from,

01:24:47so that more and more studios

01:24:49dare to take such steps.

01:24:51I think that computer games

01:24:53have already entered

01:24:55this space of art,

01:24:57where they can be considered

01:24:59to be independent art,

01:25:01and certain narrative tools,

01:25:03which are different from

01:25:05literary or comic tools,

01:25:07allow for fun,

01:25:09for development,

01:25:11for building the reality

01:25:13that the user experiences

01:25:15in a way that is not provided

01:25:17by either literature

01:25:19or comics.

01:25:21So, yes,

01:25:23do it right, gentlemen,

01:25:25so that we can have fun

01:25:27with the digital world.

01:25:29So, we are looking forward

01:25:31to Mighty Core games

01:25:33and all the others,

01:25:35I hope,

01:25:37due to these two titles,

01:25:39and I can see that

01:25:41Aga is waiting for us on stage,

01:25:43so it's time to join in.

01:25:45MIGHTY CORE

01:25:50They say that everything good

01:25:52comes to an end,

01:25:54but in fact, it's just the beginning.

01:25:56Today's event is coming to an end.

01:25:58It was a great pleasure to host it.

01:26:00Thank you, Mighty Core studio,

01:26:02thank you, partners,

01:26:04but most of all,

01:26:06players and viewers,

01:26:08thank you for being with us today.

01:26:10Together we will write a beautiful story.

01:26:12See you!

01:26:43You can have it all now

01:26:46Yeah, you can have it all

Thorgal & The Night Wanderer | Mighty Koi Studio: Behind the Scenes

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