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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Merciful, the most Compassionate, Peace be upon you.
00:05In the political scene of Pakistan, there is a lot of voice of forgiveness.
00:09Sometimes forgiveness is heard from here, sometimes forgiveness is heard from here.
00:13It is said from here, it is said from the people of Pakistan,
00:16that such a political, a political party, that is, the name of PTI is taken without talking about PTI,
00:20such a political leader, that is, the name of Imran Khan is taken without talking about Imran Khan,
00:25who has done all this.
00:27Until he apologizes, nothing can move forward.
00:30Imran Khan's last few days had some soft statements in relation to the army,
00:33so a debate arose that maybe there was some talk with the army,
00:36there was some softness from there, that is why Imran Khan is keeping his hand a little light.
00:39But the DGISPR cleared it in the press conference two days ago,
00:42that our position was the same, that is, apologize, otherwise the matter cannot move forward.
00:47Today Imran Khan has spoken to the journalists in the court, and what did he do there?
00:53Today Imran Khan has said something new, a new proposal has been made,
00:57an interesting development has been made.
00:59Imran Khan said that the incident of 9th May, my request is that his CCTV footages have been erased,
01:05so the CCTV footages of 9th May should be brought forward and the accused should be identified on the basis of it.
01:12The next thing is very interesting, he says,
01:14if in the incident of 9th May, the people of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf come out,
01:18that is, you bring the CCTV footage in front,
01:20obviously this is also an allegation in a way, that you have hidden the CCTV footages from the other side,
01:24and if it is found in the CCTV that our people are involved, then I will apologize.
01:30Very interesting, is there softness in this position,
01:34is there a way to apologize, or is there strictness in the position?
01:36We will analyze this after a while, that our people are not there,
01:39if they come out, then I will apologize.
01:41The real thing is that you have stolen the footages,
01:43because they are your people, so what is this actually, what do you want to say?
01:46We will analyze this.
01:48Mr. Khan says,
01:49the accused should be identified on the basis of the footages,
01:52and all those accused should be taken to the Kaifur-e-Kardar,
01:55that is, if he is a member of PTI, then he should be disowned to this extent,
01:58that why did he do 9th May, then punish him.
02:00If the people of PTI are involved in 9th May,
02:02then I will remove them from my party,
02:04I will get them punished myself,
02:06I will apologize when the CCTV footages of the 9th May incident should be brought forward.
02:12At this point, the journalists are present, there is an interaction,
02:15a journalist asked an innocent question,
02:17that sir, on 9th May, petrol bombs were seen in your people's hands,
02:21because Mr. Khan was saying that our people have not done anything,
02:23our people have come out, so I will apologize,
02:25then punish them, remove them from the party,
02:27so he asked that petrol bombs were seen in your people's hands,
02:30Mr. Khan gave a very innocent answer to this,
02:32Mr. Khan said,
02:33we used petrol bombs in Zaman Park, Lahore,
02:37but not anywhere else,
02:39he will not say that we used petrol bombs at GHQ,
02:41no, no, when the police ran in Zaman Park,
02:43then we used petrol bombs,
02:45the journalists present there say that
02:47Mr. Khan also told the details of the petrol bombs,
02:49that how it is made and how it is used,
02:51and what it is,
02:53so he said that I used it in Zaman Park,
02:55it is true, I did not go to GHQ,
02:57I did not use it anywhere else,
02:59then Mr. Khan says,
03:01the one who has made a mistake should apologize,
03:03the peaceful protest was turned into terrorism,
03:05we did not make any mistake,
03:07and further he says that
03:09the illegal arrest in my judicial complex,
03:11who will apologize to me on that,
03:13this is Mr. Imran Khan's latest statement,
03:15and this is the latest update,
03:17around the apology of Surat-e-Hal,
03:19in which the whole debate is revolving,
03:21you know,
03:23DGISPR had said,
03:25that apologize,
03:27otherwise the matter cannot move forward,
03:29the first reaction to this,
03:31which came after a few hours of that press conference,
03:33was of Asad Qaisal,
03:35Senior Anumay of PTI,
03:37he said that we do not apologize to anyone's father,
03:39see what he said,
03:49and there are many other statements like this,
03:51Mr. Lateef Khossa said that,
03:53brother, apologize to us,
03:55we will not apologize,
03:57what did Mr. Lateef Khossa say?
04:05he should apologize,
04:07why should we apologize,
04:09there is no question of apologizing,
04:11so there is no question of apologizing,
04:13CM KPK, two days ago,
04:15in Jalsa-e-Aam,
04:17said this about apologizing,
04:36in this Jalsa,
04:38Ali Muhammad Khan advised,
04:40obviously he was addressing the Afwaj,
04:42that you should apologize,
04:44that Malang Admi Khan will forgive you,
04:46Ali Muhammad Khan did not say anything,
04:49he is Malang,
04:51he is the servant of this nation,
04:53go and apologize,
04:55he will forgive you,
04:57if he forgives you,
04:59the country will flourish,
05:01by doing press conferences,
05:03the country will not flourish,
05:05you will have to admit your mistake,
05:07from here,
05:09the journey has come to this point,
05:11that not anyone else,
05:13but Ali Muhammad Khan's sister,
05:15she said this about apologizing,
05:18and if there is any doubt,
05:20that this is a misreport,
05:22as it happened before,
05:24that the journalists said,
05:26that Ali Muhammad Khan said,
05:28that he had called for an investigation,
05:30some people said,
05:32that Ali Muhammad Khan did not say this,
05:34then Salman Rehman Rai said,
05:36that he had called for an investigation,
05:38so to clear that doubt,
05:40let's listen to Ali Muhammad Khan's,
05:42apology.
05:47Ali Muhammad Khan's apology.
06:05So this is the situation,
06:07let's talk about this quickly,
06:09he is with us at the beginning of the program,
06:11of course he does not need any introduction,
06:13according to Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf,
06:15and he is a senior lawyer of this country,
06:17Mr. Salman Akram Raja is with us,
06:19Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
06:21Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
06:23Sir, thank you very much for your time,
06:25Mr. Salman, tell us,
06:27we got this impression from your speech,
06:29you said in our program,
06:31correct me if I am wrong,
06:33that you are saying,
06:35that some individuals made a mistake,
06:37and you should punish them,
06:39you did not pay the entire party,
06:41you did not pay 10,000 people,
06:43we got this impression from your speech,
06:45that he is sure that not even a single individual
06:47of PTI was involved,
06:49he said that even one person came out,
06:51I will apologize,
06:53will you be able to agree with this statement of Mr. Khan,
06:55in which he said that there was no one from our party,
06:57No, no, look, he did not say this,
06:59he said that those against whom there are evidences,
07:01present evidences,
07:03they are ready to accept,
07:05if there are evidences,
07:07then why won't they accept,
07:09look, if there are evidences,
07:11but you could not prove the case against anyone,
07:13if you prove the case,
07:15the evidence will be presented,
07:17then that person should definitely be punished,
07:19we are not on the side of any criminal,
07:21no one had the intention of breaking the case,
07:23and let me clarify,
07:25I never said that,
07:27in relation to 9th May,
07:29there was a decision of GHQ,
07:31I said that,
07:33there was a thought in the party,
07:35that we will protest,
07:37on 18th March,
07:39when Mr. Imran Khan was arrested,
07:41in a way,
07:43by the Rangers,
07:45so there was a discussion,
07:47but Imran Khan has nothing to do with it,
07:49he did not call GHQ,
07:51to come out or not,
07:53but in any case,
07:55if someone comes for a peaceful protest,
07:57then there is no crime in it,
07:59you said that after the judicial complex incident,
08:01there was a discussion in the party,
08:03and Mr. Khan was also a part of it,
08:05that if something like this happens,
08:07then there will be a protest,
08:09you said that,
08:11No, Mr. Khan was not a part of it,
08:13on 9th May,
08:15he was arrested illegally,
08:17in relation to 9th May,
08:19he did not have a chance to speak,
08:21so the fact that he is connected to 9th May,
08:23is not right,
08:25but there are two aspects to it,
08:27so Mr. Khan was unaware of the party's protest,
08:29exactly what happened that day,
08:31Mr. Khan was unaware,
08:33he was in custody,
08:35he was arrested,
08:37obviously he was unaware of what was happening,
08:39but there was a discussion in the party,
08:41that if Khan was arrested,
08:43then the one who arrested him,
08:45will be put where he should be,
08:47with this discussion,
08:49you are saying that Mr. Khan was unaware,
08:51I did not say that there was a formal discussion,
08:53or a meeting,
08:55or a core committee,
08:57it is not like that,
08:59it is a matter of impression,
09:01which will be in the minds of different people,
09:03the statement that was given in front of the court,
09:05that is his statement,
09:07which was given in front of the court,
09:09and it is recorded in the court's decision,
09:11he said that I have no connection with this matter,
09:13I did not know anything,
09:15that someone has to protest here,
09:17why he protested,
09:19this is his own opinion,
09:21therefore he has no connection with any scheme,
09:23or any crime,
09:25he has said today that if someone has committed a crime,
09:27then you punish him,
09:29and you will have to apologize to the people of Pakistan,
09:31every person who has violated the law,
09:33if someone of ours has committed a crime,
09:35then we will apologize to the people,
09:37we will take a political step against him,
09:39therefore this game of apology
09:41will not take the country forward,
09:43today Alia Hamza is free after 15 months,
09:45there were cases against her in every city of Pakistan,
09:47who will apologize for her,
09:49she stayed away from her children,
09:51she stayed away from her husband,
09:53she stayed away from her parents,
09:55everyone could see that there were
09:57serious cases against her,
09:59one person could not protest
10:01in four provinces,
10:03in six cities,
10:05all these incidents have happened,
10:07thousands of people have been arrested,
10:09they all want to apologize to them,
10:11therefore if we want to move the country forward,
10:13then we will have to move forward
10:15by accepting our mistakes,
10:17we will have to sit together,
10:19we will have to end the unrest in the country,
10:21this is our position.
10:23Sir, I wanted to come to this question,
10:25you mentioned it yourself,
10:27how do you interpret the recent release
10:29of some women workers,
10:31do you think it is not possible
10:33to keep them in custody any longer,
10:35or has there been a decision
10:37at any level
10:39that the matter
10:41of softness has increased,
10:43I am asking this because
10:45according to your statements,
10:47and it is true that
10:49there was no such thing before,
10:51but still they used to come out of one
10:53and were arrested in the other,
10:55so why do you think
10:57it is not possible now,
10:59or has there been a decision?
11:01No, this has happened
11:03that the court has to take care
11:05of its responsibility,
11:07which I think is a very important
11:09turn for Islamabad High Court,
11:11after that,
11:13there has been a new heat
11:15in the court,
11:17there has been a new
11:19determination about its role,
11:21whatever was happening was wrong,
11:23the court is not ready
11:25to take the burden
11:27that it is becoming
11:29a part of an illegal act.
11:31The court was saying
11:33to leave it,
11:35but it was not being left,
11:37the court is saying
11:39with more intensity
11:41that now we mean business,
11:43that is why it is happening.
11:45Look, even today it happened
11:47that in Gujranwala,
11:49Aliya Hamza was bailed,
11:51and it was seen that
11:53as soon as they step out,
11:55they will be arrested and taken
11:57to Quetta or Sukkur or somewhere else.
11:59We went to the court,
12:01to Aliya's court,
12:03we called out that this is an
12:05illegal act and the court
12:07listened to us and said
12:09that they will not be handed over
12:11to Sindh or Balochistan police.
12:13In Punjab, as they were
12:15bailed in all cases,
12:17so today they are with their
12:19families after 15 months.
12:21Sir, from where it started,
12:23the last thing,
12:25do you think this statement
12:27is not a heavy statement
12:29that if any of my workers
12:31come out, I will take
12:33disciplinary action and
12:35ask for forgiveness.
12:37If this is revealed,
12:39one or the other will come out,
12:41then Mr. Khan will ask for forgiveness.
12:43Do you think this statement
12:45is correct?
12:47If a person is punished,
12:49he will also be given political
12:51punishment and legal punishment
12:53from the court.
12:55There is no shame in this.
12:57No, the punishment will be given
12:59and Mr. Khan will also apologize
13:01if one of his party members
13:03comes out.
13:05Yes, he will apologize
13:07to the people of Pakistan.
13:09He will definitely apologize
13:11that he should not have done
13:13this. Every political party
13:15will have one PTI worker
13:17or none at all.
13:19In your personal opinion.
13:21Look, I am not suing him,
13:23but it is quite possible that
13:25there are some people who
13:27have come under suspicion
13:29or have been incited.
13:31But look, you have kept
13:33Dr. Yasmeen Rashid for 15 months.
13:35What evidence do you have against
13:37her that she is saying on the
13:39roof of a car that stay peaceful
13:41and don't even break a pot.
13:43What evidence do you have against
13:45her that she is saying on the
13:47roof of a car that stay peaceful
13:49and don't even break a pot.
13:51What evidence do you have against
13:53her that she is saying on the
13:55roof of a car that stay peaceful
13:57and don't even break a pot.
13:59What evidence do you have against
14:01her that she is saying on the
14:03roof of a car that stay peaceful
14:05and don't even break a pot.
14:07What evidence do you have against
14:09her that she is saying on the
14:11roof of a car that stay peaceful
14:13and don't even break a pot.
14:41What evidence do you have against
14:43her that she is saying on the
14:45roof of a car that stay peaceful
14:47and don't even break a pot.
14:49What evidence do you have against
14:51her that she is saying on the
14:53roof of a car that stay peaceful
14:55and don't even break a pot.
14:57What evidence do you have against
14:59her that she is saying on the
15:01roof of a car that stay peaceful
15:03and don't even break a pot.
15:05What evidence do you have against
15:07her that she is saying on the
15:09roof of a car that stay peaceful
15:11and don't even break a pot.
15:39What evidence do you have against
15:41her that she is saying on the
15:43roof of a car that stay peaceful
15:45and don't even break a pot.
15:47What evidence do you have against
15:49her that she is saying on the
15:51roof of a car that stay peaceful
15:53and don't even break a pot.
16:09What evidence do you have against
16:11her that she is saying on the
16:13roof of a car that stay peaceful
16:15and don't even break a pot.
16:40Welcome Mr. Fawad Chaudhary.
16:44Assalam-o-Alaikum.
16:46Wa-alaikum-as-salam.
16:48Thank you for your time.
16:50First of all, Mr. Fawad,
16:52what is your brief explanation?
16:54Today, Mr. Khan's statement is
16:56that you bring a CCTV,
16:58one of our people came out
17:00and I will apologize.
17:02Do you interpret this as
17:04the temperature is low
17:06and if a person comes out,
17:08you will say that we are
17:10asking for the benefit of the
17:12country, so you should
17:14apologize. Or are you looking
17:16at it as a strict statement
17:18that we have not done anything
17:20and if you come out,
17:22I will apologize.
17:24How do you analyze this?
17:26This is the third such statement
17:28of Mr. Khan in a week
17:30in which he wants to go
17:32towards engagement.
17:34First, he said that you
17:36should apologize.
17:38There is no question
17:40that we should take revenge
17:42from anyone or say that
17:44I will not work with Fawad.
17:46There will be some fool
17:48who will say that
17:50he will not work with Fawad.
17:52In my year, about
17:54three meetings, Mr. Khan
17:56has tried to bring
17:58the temperature down
18:00and it should come down.
18:02And the two press conferences
18:04have not been
18:06as direct as they
18:08used to be.
18:10But I think that
18:12the response from the
18:14establishment should be
18:16better. Then only the
18:18temperature can come down
18:20according to this statement.
18:22But when he says that the CCTV
18:24was brought forward and
18:26our people did not do it,
18:28then what is he saying?
18:30This is the expression of
18:32the establishment.
18:34What to do by apologizing
18:36or what to do by apologizing.
18:38This is the expression of a
18:40provocation. If the provocation
18:42is less, these things will
18:44end anyway. Things do not
18:46work by apologizing.
18:48What is the big conflict in the
18:50world that you think
18:52that things do not end
18:54by bringing others on their
18:56opponents' knees?
18:58Reconciliation is better
19:00than reconciliation.
19:02If the leader of the people
19:04is Imran Khan, then
19:06it is not possible that
19:08we do not understand him.
19:10Imran Khan will also have
19:12to be respected and
19:14things will move forward
19:16with him. It is important
19:18for Pakistan that Imran
19:20Khan has moved forward
19:22and the establishment
19:24and the government
19:26have also moved forward.
19:28So, in a way, he is saying
19:30that you have hidden the CCTV.
19:32Hide it because your people
19:34are not our people.
19:36This is not the reason for
19:38anger on the other side.
19:40This is a part of it.
19:42This is a part of it.
19:44The main character in this
19:46whole thing is of this
19:489th of May.
19:50After 9th of May,
19:528th of February has also happened.
19:54Now both the facts
19:56have to be kept in front
19:58to find a solution.
20:00We are our country,
20:02state, people.
20:04See, politics
20:06is like a flowing river.
20:08It is not possible that we are
20:10stuck in the past.
20:12The army has not forgiven
20:14the speeches of Nawaz Sharif.
20:16It has forgiven playing the instrument.
20:18Nothing has happened.
20:20Let's just understand that it has happened.
20:22Let's just go ahead. It's been two years.
20:24Remember,
20:26if you had made such a big narrative
20:28that Imran Khan would have
20:30ended, PTA would have ended,
20:32that did not happen.
20:34Now, the people who come on TV,
20:36many people who say that we have
20:38a very good relationship,
20:40they say that there is anger there.
20:42Anger is not enough to make a country
20:44of 25 crores.
20:46You have to make an alternate.
20:48You should not play with the fate
20:50of 22 crore people.
20:52Is it far from reality or
20:54maybe there can be something
20:56around it?
20:58For example,
21:00if someone comes out,
21:02which one will we apologize to?
21:04Just like any party
21:06if a person does something wrong,
21:08then the head of the party should
21:10apologize to the people.
21:12Will you apologize to the people
21:14that some of our individuals
21:16made a mistake?
21:18Is it possible or
21:20is it very far from reality?
21:24I don't think it's that important.
21:26The real importance is
21:28that the trust deficit
21:30that has been created,
21:32the communication that has been lost,
21:34first remove the communication
21:36and a trust should be created.
21:38In my opinion,
21:40if you want to ask PTI
21:42what they have to say,
21:44first of all,
21:46the people sitting outside,
21:48the social media accounts
21:50who have tried
21:52to create confusion
21:54among the people of Pakistan
21:56and the army,
21:58PTI will have to disassociate
22:00themselves from them.
22:02These Haider Mehdi and
22:04Giyadul Raja Taiz have nothing
22:06to do with PTI.
22:08Why is PTI not
22:10openly disassociating itself
22:12from them?
22:14It is very important
22:16that PTI disassociates itself
22:18from the people of Pakistan.
22:20Secondly,
22:22Imran Khan has to reassure
22:24the political parties
22:26and the opposition
22:28that we will not take
22:30revenge
22:32for the treatment
22:34of PTI.
22:36These are the two reassurances
22:38that I think are essential.
22:40Will you not take revenge
22:42from the establishment
22:44and the opposition?
22:46No, I will take revenge
22:48from both.
22:50PTI will not
22:52disassociate itself
22:54from the people
22:56who are in danger.
22:58The real important thing
23:00is how to create trust.
23:02You yourself say that
23:04trust is deficient.
23:06Now suppose that
23:08you do what you think
23:10is right.
23:12You will not take revenge
23:14from the army
23:16or the opposition.
23:18If the other party does not
23:20believe in trust,
23:22then they will
23:24turn their back on you.
23:26How can you be sure
23:28that this will happen?
23:30Communication can
23:32lead to a lot of things.
23:34For example, you can
23:36put constitutional guarantees
23:38and make the prosecutor's office
23:40in big European countries
23:42where you do not have
23:44control over your political
23:46opponents.
23:48Similarly, the election commission
23:50has to be constituted.
23:52Judiciary has become
23:54as strong as ours.
23:56We should not worry
23:58that a political party
24:00will be able to do it.
24:02In my opinion,
24:04communication is important
24:06so that
24:08trust is built.
24:10If this snow melts,
24:12can international guarantors
24:14play a key role in this?
24:16Yes, they can.
24:18But I feel
24:20that international guarantors
24:22have become so irrelevant
24:24that no big player is interested.
24:26They have their own problems.
24:28For example, America is
24:30in the elections.
24:32Who will guarantee from there?
24:34Saudi Arabia and the UAE
24:36have interfered a little in Pakistan.
24:38They will ask for more money.
24:40China does not interfere much.
24:42Traditionally,
24:44the UAE,
24:46Saudi Arabia and America
24:48interfere in such matters.
24:50But I do not think
24:52that China has interfered much in Pakistan.
24:54There was a voice
24:56from the Jalsa
24:58that Mr. Ahmad Azhar
25:00said that
25:02he will do a long march
25:04towards Adiala.
25:06Mr. Ahmad Azhar
25:08said that
25:10it could be a slip of tongue.
25:12Mr. Ahmad Azhar said
25:14that it is not a slip of tongue.
25:16Can this long march
25:18towards Adiala
25:20play a key role
25:22in creating pressure in the government?
25:24If the PTI wanted to
25:26do this,
25:28it should have been done
25:30on 9th February.
25:32If the PTI wanted to
25:34do this,
25:36it should have been done
25:38on 9th February.
25:40If the PTI wanted to
25:42do this,
25:44it should have been done
25:46on 9th February.
25:48If the PTI wanted to
25:50do this,
25:52it should have been done
25:54on 9th February.
25:56If the PTI wanted to
25:58do this,
26:00it should have been done
26:02on 9th February.
26:04If the PTI wanted to
26:06do this,
26:08it should have been done
26:10on 9th February.
26:12If the PTI wanted to
26:14do this,
26:16it should have been done
26:18on 9th February.
26:20If the PTI wanted to
26:22do this,
26:24it should have been done
26:26on 9th February.
26:28If the PTI wanted to
26:30do this,
26:32it should have been done
26:34on 9th February.
26:36If the PTI wanted to
26:38do this,
26:40it should have been done
26:42on 9th February.
26:44If the PTI wanted to
26:46do this,
26:48it should have been done
26:50on 9th February.
26:52If the PTI wanted to
26:54do this,
26:56it should have been done
26:58on 9th February.
27:00If the PTI wanted to
27:02do this,
27:04it should have been done
27:06on 9th February.
27:08If the PTI wanted to
27:10do this,
27:12it should have been done
27:14on 9th February.
27:16If the PTI wanted to
27:18do this,
27:20it should have been done
27:22on 9th February.
27:24If the PTI wanted to
27:26do this,
27:28it should have been done
27:30on 9th February.
27:32If the PTI wanted to
27:34do this,
27:36it should have been done
27:38on 9th February.
27:40If the PTI wanted to
27:42do this,
27:44it should have been done
27:46on 9th February.
27:48If the PTI wanted to
27:50do this,
27:52it should have been done
27:54on 9th February.
27:56If the PTI wanted to
27:58do this,
28:00it should have been done
28:02on 9th February.
28:04If the PTI wanted to
28:06do this,
28:08it should have been done
28:10on 9th February.
28:12If the PTI wanted to
28:14do this,
28:16it should have been done
28:18on 9th February.
28:20If the PTI wanted to
28:22do this,
28:24it should have been done
28:26on 9th February.
28:28If the PTI wanted to
28:30do this,
28:32it should have been done
28:34on 9th February.
28:36If the PTI wanted to
28:38do this,
28:40it should have been done
28:42on 9th February.
28:44If the PTI wanted to
28:46do this,
28:48it should have been done
28:50on 9th February.
28:52If the PTI wanted to
28:54do this,
28:56it should have been done
28:58on 9th February.
29:00If the PTI wanted to
29:02do this,
29:04it should have been done
29:06on 9th February.
29:08If the PTI wanted to
29:10do this,
29:12it should have been done
29:14on 9th February.
29:16If the PTI wanted to
29:18do this,
29:20it should have been done
29:22on 9th February.
29:24If the PTI wanted to
29:26do this,
29:28it should have been done
29:30on 9th February.
29:32If the PTI wanted to
29:34do this,
29:36it should have been done
29:38on 9th February.
29:40If the PTI wanted to
29:42do this,
29:44it should have been done
29:46on 9th February.
29:48If the PTI wanted to
29:50do this,
29:52it should have been done
29:54on 9th February.
29:56If the PTI wanted to
29:58do this,
30:00it should have been done
30:02on 9th February.
30:04If the PTI wanted to
30:06do this,
30:08it should have been done
30:10on 9th February.
30:12If the PTI wanted to
30:14do this,
30:16it should have been done
30:18on 9th February.
30:20If the PTI wanted to
30:22do this,
30:24it should have been done
30:26on 9th February.
30:28If the PTI wanted to
30:30do this,
30:32it should have been done
30:34on 9th February.
30:36If the PTI wanted to
30:38do this,
30:40it should have been done
30:42on 9th February.
31:10It's exactly the same mood and temperament as it was.
31:12In your opinion, has there been an army from there as well?
31:16I haven't taken a direct take on the two press conferences,
31:20but I believe that the steps needed are not yet visible.
31:24I agree with you.
31:25And especially the issue with the judiciary
31:29and the aggressive posture taken by the government,
31:33and the government is obviously saying that,
31:34the establishment has taken it,
31:36and because of that, I think, there could be an escalation.
31:41And this will not happen in the interest of Pakistan,
31:44because the general impression is that,
31:46at any cost, the government, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
31:50wants to stop you from becoming Justice Pakistan.
31:53This impression is very inappropriate,
31:55and Pakistan will definitely not be able to afford it.
32:01Do you not believe those statements of the Minister of Justice,
32:04which he has given a long time ago,
32:05that Mr. Faiz Issa has said that he is not interested at all,
32:08and we have told him that this is not under consideration at all.
32:11This is wrong, this is a rumour.
32:13No, this is not the case,
32:14for example, Mohsin, who is your reporter,
32:19and one of the very, I must say,
32:20one of the very leading reporters in Islamabad,
32:24I spoke to him, and I told him that you,
32:26he said that I asked the registrar,
32:30that will Mr. Faiz Issa retire or not,
32:34and I did not get any answer.
32:36So far, the judge, Mr. Faiz Issa,
32:39has not directly said anything negative about his retirement.
32:42The Minister of Justice has said it,
32:44but it was not said by Mr. Faiz Issa,
32:46because of which this is a rumour.
32:48Mr. Faiz Issa should clarify tomorrow,
32:50that he is retiring, and the next Justice,
32:52will be Raseen-e-Mosque, who is a judge under him,
32:55if he is there, then this could be a rumour.
32:57If Mr. Faiz Issa gets another chance,
33:00it is possible that he will be retired by the end of the year.
33:03It is possible that he will be retired by the end of the year.
33:06As of today, the government does not have two-thirds of the votes.
33:09So, do you think that the government will be able to manage two-thirds of the votes?
33:14The situation at the moment is that,
33:16if the government wants to pull the issue of reserved seats towards itself,
33:22if this happens, then of course it will be two-thirds,
33:25and they are in a position to bring a constitutional amendment.
33:28And with that, they say that they want 9-10 PTI MNAs,
33:32and of course, you know,
33:34the way the PTI MNAs have been divided,
33:36they don't get any share, otherwise what do you want to get out of those MNAs?
33:40They have been abducted, they are being tried to take from them.
33:45And secondly, there is a recommendation from the overall environment,
33:49that it should be passed in a fair manner.
33:52This is the reason why this issue is coming up,
33:55and the government's position on this is not clear.
34:00In Islamabad, people are saying that they are trying to bring a constitutional amendment.
34:04Do you see it happening?
34:05What is your analysis? Do you see it happening?
34:08Look, the things that are happening,
34:10apart from this,
34:12I don't understand the pain of abducting 9 MNAs,
34:15and what do you want to do about it?
34:17If you don't want to do anything,
34:18I don't understand the pain of abducting 9 MNAs.
34:23After that, the legislation has been done.
34:25What was the problem with the Supreme Court's decision?
34:28They didn't have any problem, they were the majority,
34:31and their case had to be done.
34:33The government was not falling for this decision.
34:36But the way it was made,
34:39the way the government started a campaign against the Supreme Court.
34:42You see, there is a third press conference of the Information Minister
34:46against the judiciary.
34:48And the rest of the people did it too.
34:50So, now I don't understand what they are doing.
34:53Why is the government falling in love with Mr. Ishaq Khan?
34:56And the Supreme Court judges,
35:00they feel that something new should be brought in.
35:04And I don't know why this kind of unnecessary...
35:08But the amendment in the Election Act,
35:10don't you think it's so simple that it's a challenge and it will be blown up?
35:14Or no, it's not that simple, it's nothing like that.
35:18No, it has to be blown up 100%.
35:20Everyone knows that the Supreme Court's decision...
35:22If it's blown up, the PTI will get a seat.
35:25But tell me, what's the point of making so much effort?
35:30Does the government want the Supreme Court to send him home
35:33and give him a narrative, a part-lonely narrative?
35:36So, till now, the truth is that I don't understand its logic,
35:40except that the government wants to bring a constitutional amendment
35:45so that they can get judicial practice approved.
35:47I don't understand any other logic.
35:49And in my opinion, this is a very unnecessary effort.
35:53Because even if you do it, it will only increase the shock.
35:57Pakistan cannot afford any more shock.
35:59And you won't get any support in the judiciary either.
36:02Even if you give the extension to the Justice Minister,
36:06there is so much unpopularity in the judiciary
36:09that he will not be able to help you anyway.
36:11So, I don't know why the government is doing all this.
36:15Towards the end, a journalist asked me,
36:18when I told him that it was a CCTV,
36:22and that if a person comes in front of us, we will apologize,
36:24a journalist said that he had seen it himself.
36:26He was a journalist from Pindi.
36:27He said that he had seen your people throwing petrol bombs.
36:30So, he said that this is wrong.
36:32We did use petrol bombs in Zamaan Park, but not anywhere else.
36:36What do you have to say about this innocent statement?
36:41What can I say?
36:44My question is,
36:46those who are talking in Lahore,
36:48about what happened there,
36:51about the riots that took place there.
36:55But in my opinion, it is a simple matter.
36:58Without Imran Khan, Pakistan's politics is incomplete.
37:01This picture cannot be made without the CTI.
37:04So, the best thing that can happen to Pakistan is
37:09that normalcy comes back in Pakistan.
37:11A normal situation is created between the establishment and the CTI.
37:16And Pakistan should have a normal politics.
37:19Such a big social change has come.
37:22We cannot afford such a big political upheaval.
37:24We are the people of peace and order.
37:29We have to take care of our politics.
37:30Things have to go in the right direction.
37:33And we are politicians.
37:36We don't have to...
37:37Let's go towards the end.
37:38In this situation, if you could answer in the last audio of the video,
37:43what will happen to these characters,
37:46for example, Hassan Niazi,
37:48who is seen to be in control of the situation.
37:50Will the party ultimately disown him?
37:52Or what will happen?
37:54The punishment is within 15-16 months.
37:58How many more punishments do you want to give?
38:01This is a big issue.
38:04How many punishments are enough for these people and their children?
38:09I don't know.
38:11People have different opinions on this.
38:14A lot of people...
38:17Some people say that they went to build cemeteries.
38:20Some people say that they went to the Ghaa.
38:22But...
38:23I specifically mentioned that if this is the case, then what should be done?
38:29Obviously, politics has become difficult for them.
38:31It has become difficult for them to do politics.
38:33Because no one will ignore such events as you did in the beginning.
38:38So, politics will now take a new shape.
38:42It will move forward.
38:43But where we have ignored so much of the rest,
38:47I think this should also be done with a soft heart.
38:50Like Sheikh Rashid is repeatedly saying that the public should apologize.
38:54So, let's see.
38:56And we need to improve these things and move forward.
39:01We need to move forward with inclusion.
39:03And like I said, the PTI will have to make some concessions.
39:09And the government and the establishment will have to make some concessions.
39:13Otherwise, Pakistan cannot continue to be like this.
39:16Thank you very much.
39:17We are going down this much.
39:18Thank you very much, Mr. Fawad Chouhai.
39:20He was giving his opinion.
39:21Let's move quickly.
39:22There have been a lot of developments in the neighborhood of Bangladesh.
39:25First, Haseena Wajid Sahiba went there.
39:28The Talbat organization played a big role.
39:29Then she had a doubt that the army should not form a new government of its own accord.
39:33So, she gave a name to it.
39:34Her second big success was the same name of Muhammad Yunus,
39:37Grameen Bank, which is a Nobel prize-winning organization.
39:40Fawad said that they should be made the leaders.
39:42A new government was formed.
39:43They came from Paris.
39:45So, what's next?
39:46Let's talk.
39:47Arfaat Wislam is with us.
39:49He is a senior journalist from Bangladesh.
39:50He has kept a close eye on the matter of Bangladesh throughout.
39:53Sir, thank you very much for your time.
39:55Mr. Arfaat, tell me one thing.
39:59Now that the second big demand of students has been fulfilled,
40:02that those who wanted to become the leaders of the government have come.
40:05So, the chaos that was happening,
40:07the demolition and demolition,
40:09all this has ended.
40:10Are things back to normal now?
40:14Sir, it has not been back to normal yet.
40:17But the intensity has reduced.
40:20It is not heard so much now.
40:23At the moment, the new interim government is to be formed.
40:28The students have proposed some names.
40:30The name of the president has been passed.
40:33And it should be finalized tomorrow.
40:35So, the military expects that the interim government will be formed tomorrow.
40:41So, what are the news now that the interim government will be formed
40:44in Mr. Yunus's opinion?
40:45So, how long will it take for the general election to be announced?
40:50The main opposition party in Bangladesh,
40:55BNP, Bangladesh Nationalist Party,
40:57had a big program in Dhaka today.
41:01So, they expect that the election should be held within three months.
41:06But there are many other things as well.
41:09This party has been saying for 15 years that it has been under a lot of repression.
41:15It has faced a lot of crackdowns.
41:17Party leaders, many of the party leaders were in jail.
41:22So, the other political parties also need time to prepare for the election.
41:28And the new interim government also needs time.
41:33Because it is not easy to hold a free, fair, inclusive election
41:37that can be held in two days, one month or two months.
41:40It needs time.
41:41So, it is not clear how long it will take.
41:46So, now tell me...
41:47BNP is also saying that it should be held within three months.
41:52Okay.
41:53So, Haseena Wajid's party, Mujeeb-ur-Rehman's party,
41:56do they have any representatives on the ground or not?
42:00For example, when will the next election be held?
42:05So, will there be a political party?
42:07Will there be a political party? Or is there no political party at all?
42:11I myself spoke to Shaujib Wajid.
42:14He is Joy, Shekhar Sinha's son, who lives in UCB.
42:18I spoke to him yesterday and today.
42:21So, it seems that...
42:23He said that he was not invited.
42:27The other party did not invite him to this discussion.
42:30And it is also true that most of the leaders are in hiding
42:36or fled to other countries.
42:37Some of them were arrested.
42:39So, the condition of the party is very bad right now.
42:42It seems that it is very bad because...
42:44So, tell me, Gharfansar, when the elections were taking place in December-January,
42:48I said that the elections have not yet taken place in Bangladesh,
42:51but it is not hard to predict that Haseena Wajid will win
42:54and she will be the next Prime Minister.
42:56Is it right to say that it is not hard to predict
42:58that in the next election,
43:00the Awami League will be held,
43:01and it will be held in a very ceremonial manner.
43:05And it is not hard to predict that Khalda Zia Sahiba
43:07or her party will gain power.
43:10Is it right to say this or is it a bit too early?
43:13No, it is not.
43:15Because the situation has changed.
43:17Because the massive uprising that you saw,
43:20the mass movement,
43:22many young students participated in it.
43:24And it was led by students.
43:26So, it is a bit difficult to say
43:28because the support that these students got...
43:32Because you saw that when these students were attacked,
43:35many people supported them.
43:38People from all around the country supported these students.
43:43Now, we will have to see...
43:45The crowd was so big that the students led it.
43:48It was a leaderless crowd.
43:50Yes, they led it, but the crowd that supported it...
43:53If these students plan something else in the future,
43:57if they support a political movement,
44:02it can become something else.
44:03So, it is not really sure who will come to power
44:07if there is a free, fair and inclusive election.
44:09So, it is very difficult to say now.
44:12It is possible that...
44:13But there is one thing that Professor Yunus wants
44:17that there should be a free, fair and inclusive election
44:19and whoever wins this election will get power.
44:22Is it wrong to say that the majority of these students
44:25are in favour of Khalda Zia Sahiba's party
44:29or what is their political tilt?
44:32It is difficult to say.
44:33There are many students.
44:37I have seen it on Facebook.
44:39I have spoken to some of them.
44:41But they want a change.
44:44They want something new.
44:46Yes, interesting.
44:47They want something traditional.
44:50They want something new.
44:53It is possible that a new leadership emerges in the days to come.
44:56It is possible that a new leadership emerges from students.
45:00It is difficult to say now.
45:02But it is very important that there is a free, fair and inclusive election
45:07and whoever wins this election will get power.
45:09Thank you very much.
45:12Stay healthy, God willing.
45:13See you tomorrow.