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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Shazia Marri PPP
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
Will PTI challenge the election amendments in the Supreme Court? Ali Muhammad Khan's Statement
Will SC's verdict on reserved seats be implemented? - Shazia Mari and Ather Kazmi's Reaction
If SC invalidates Election Act Bill, What will govt do? - Big News
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Ali Muhammad Khan PTI
- Shazia Marri PPP
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
Will PTI challenge the election amendments in the Supreme Court? Ali Muhammad Khan's Statement
Will SC's verdict on reserved seats be implemented? - Shazia Mari and Ather Kazmi's Reaction
If SC invalidates Election Act Bill, What will govt do? - Big News
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00:00In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:16The government of the time has attacked the Supreme Court of Pakistan through the Parliament.
00:22The target is a Jamaat.
00:24Some friends of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf have said this about today's development.
00:28What has happened today?
00:30They think that an institution has attacked another institution to crush a political Jamaat.
00:36The biggest issue before the election was that there is a Jamaat called Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.
00:45It has not held its elections.
00:47Since it has not held its elections, it has been deprived of its electoral signs.
00:51Since it has not held its elections, it has been deprived of its electoral signs.
00:54As a Jamaat, it has lost its identity.
00:57As a Jamaat, it has lost its identity.
00:59As a Jamaat, it cannot hold its elections.
01:01It cannot hold its elections.
01:03It cannot hold its elections in the name of a single party.
01:05This was the whole story.
01:07In short, the election took place.
01:09Azaad fought.
01:10He won in good numbers.
01:12After that, there was a challenge in the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:14Everything was reversed.
01:16It was said that this Jamaat had the right not to be snatched from the case.
01:20On this basis, the election commission of Pakistan has deprived this Jamaat of its special seats.
01:28With this plea that it was not a Jamaat.
01:31If it was a Jamaat, then it would get special seats.
01:34If it is not a Jamaat, then how can it get special seats?
01:37No, it is not like that.
01:38It was a Jamaat and it should get special seats.
01:41You should give it special seats.
01:43This was the decision of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:45What happened today?
01:47Today, the National Assembly and the Senate have unanimously approved the bill of amendments in the Election Act 2017.
01:55What does this mean?
01:57And what has the opposition done in this?
01:59On the part of the opposition, the proposals presented in relation to these amendments have been rejected.
02:04Okay, what is this bill?
02:06In the Election Act 2017, this amendment bill was brought after the decision of the special seats of the Supreme Court on July 12.
02:14And what was the decision?
02:15The decision was that the Supreme Court of Pakistan should give the special seats to Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
02:22In its decision, the Supreme Court had declared Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf as a parliamentary party and gave the right to special seats.
02:32So what happened now?
02:33What has the government done in this regard?
02:35After the approval of the National Assembly and the Senate, the signature of the President of Pakistan has been left.
02:39After which, this bill will be converted into law.
02:43So what has happened?
02:46What has been amended in the Election Act 2017?
02:49What is the Election Act Amendment Bill 2024?
02:53In simple words, according to the first amendment, no Assembly can change the party certificate of its political party.
03:04What does this mean in today's situation?
03:08If a person has said that he is from the Sunni Teat Council, then the Supreme Court of Pakistan should say that he is from the PTI.
03:16Because the PTI was deprived of its rights at that time.
03:18Now it will be called the Sunni Teat Council.
03:20So the first amendment has come that no party can change the certificate of its political party.
03:26What has been amended in this?
03:29According to the second amendment, it is necessary for the acquisition of special seats that a party has deposited the list on time.
03:38What does this mean in today's situation?
03:40This means that since the PTI or the Sunni Teat Council, which was given by the Election Commission of Pakistan at that time, did not deposit the list for its special seats.
03:53Therefore, this party cannot be given special seats today.
03:56No matter what decision has come from the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
03:59Therefore, the PTI has declared this amendment as an attack on the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
04:06We will show you what the members of the National Assembly of the PTI, Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan, said in today's amendment on the floor of the parliament.
04:18This is the work of the parliament of Pakistan.
04:21A political party will use the parliament to attack the Supreme Court for its political purposes.
04:28How can you deprive us of the right we got after the Supreme Court's decision, after the majority decision?
04:36How did you accept those 39?
04:38Is justice lawful for those 39?
04:41And is it forbidden for these 41?
04:43We reject this bill.
04:45This government is attacking the Supreme Court on behalf of the parliament.
04:50The people of Pakistan Tariq Insaaf are also saying that any legislation is for the future.
04:58However, under this amendment, it will be applied in the past.
05:01It has not come yet.
05:02The government is saying that this is a retrospective.
05:05It is a modern past.
05:06It will be applied in the past.
05:07The PTI is saying that this cannot happen.
05:09If you bring an amendment today, if you bring a bill today, if you make a law today,
05:12it will be applied in the future.
05:14It cannot be done in the past.
05:16Therefore, this amendment is irregular.
05:18Pakistan Tariq Insaaf has said that it will go to the Supreme Court of Pakistan against this legislation.
05:23And we show you the spirit of Pakistan Tariq Insaaf in the words of this announcement.
05:29Mr. Barrister Gauhar has said this in the National Assembly today.
05:37Legislation is being made against the bill.
05:39This time, we are trying to open the seats of women and minorities.
05:44By making a new legislation, which we announce on the floor, we will challenge this.
05:51And this challenge, God willing, will be decided by the Supreme Court.
05:56So now it is also very important to know that the government which is bringing this bill,
06:00which is bringing this amendment, which is bringing this law, what is it saying?
06:03It is very interesting.
06:04The government is saying that this legislation is not against justice.
06:07This practice is already there.
06:09Otherwise, it is an innocent question that if the practice is already there,
06:12then why is the need to bring this bill now?
06:14The government is saying that we have just made further clarification of this law through this bill.
06:19We have not brought anything new.
06:20We have just made further clarification.
06:21We show you that Ms. Shazia Marie of the Pakistan People's Party,
06:26in reference to this bill, because she is also a government,
06:29in what words did she defend this bill?
06:33This bill is not against any court.
06:35This bill is against this parliament.
06:37In reference to ending the lotocracy,
06:40in reference to shutting down the party system,
06:44to give the impression that this is a confrontation of a court order.
06:51It is absolutely wrong.
06:53No court has the right to make laws.
06:57It is only the parliament's prerogative to make laws.
07:01No court can write a new law for us.
07:05Keep quiet.
07:07Keep quiet.
07:08Order in the house.
07:09Talk about the issues of this country.
07:11But you can't stop crying.
07:15This digital terrorism that you have done,
07:17you didn't leave anyone's turban,
07:19you didn't leave anyone's dupatta,
07:21you didn't leave anyone's sheet.
07:23This digital terrorism.
07:24So, she is saying that this has nothing to do with it.
07:27This has nothing to do with it.
07:28We have done this only to discourage lotocracy.
07:32In fact, the government is saying that
07:36if the Supreme Court of Pakistan gives a ruling,
07:39according to the law, it is our duty to follow it.
07:42But the Supreme Court of Pakistan says that
07:44the parliament has the right to make its own laws.
07:47And no court can stop the parliament from doing this.
07:49So, we are just making our own laws.
07:51And the government also says that
07:53they have rewritten the law.
07:56The Supreme Court of Pakistan should make decisions according to the law.
07:59It should not rewrite the law.
08:00And the Supreme Court of Pakistan is rewriting the law
08:02when it says that the PTI should be given special sessions.
08:05The government says that the purpose of this legislation
08:07is to stop people from being opportunistic.
08:09So that people don't leave the parties.
08:11Just like the judiciary has the right to make its own laws,
08:16the parliament has the right to make its own laws.
08:19This is the whole matter.
08:21We have to talk about some other issues as well.
08:23But let's start with this.
08:25We have with us Mr. Ali Muhammad Khan.
08:28You heard his speech today.
08:31He was in great form at the Jalsa yesterday.
08:33We will talk to him about that as well.
08:35We will discuss the initial questions from today.
08:37And then we will talk about the Jalsa.
08:39Huzoor-e-Allah, Salam-o-Alaikum.
08:43Wa-Alaikum-Salam, Hussain Bhai.
08:45Thank you for your time.
08:47We have discussed all the details.
08:52Are you sure that when you go to the Supreme Court of Pakistan,
08:55this legislation will be passed?
08:59Bismillah-ir-Rahman-ir-Rahim.
09:01Allahumma salli ala Muhammadin wa ala Muhammadin.
09:03We are fully confident, Hussain Bhai.
09:05The reason for this is that
09:07there are many weaknesses in this legislation.
09:11The first and most important thing is that
09:14as Pakistanis, we all should be concerned about this.
09:21This Parliament should be used for the benefit of the people of Pakistan.
09:26Not to make any political group a plus or minus.
09:30When we, as a member of the National Assembly,
09:34or as a senator, or as a minister,
09:37or as a prime minister, or speaker, deputy speaker,
09:40or chairman of the senate, or deputy chairman of the senate,
09:42we take oath,
09:44in that we openly express that
09:46we will use our responsibilities for the benefit of the people of Pakistan.
09:54When you work in the Parliament,
09:56many things happen when the interests of a party
10:00and the interests of the people of the Parliament are the same.
10:03Or sometimes it happens that
10:06the interests of your community
10:08are for your political gain.
10:10It is not necessary that it gives a great benefit to the people.
10:14We know that the decision of the Supreme Court,
10:17in which it was said that
10:19Tariq-e-Insaf was a community, and Tariq-e-Insaf is a community.
10:23Now, the benefit that we are getting,
10:25the decision that came in our favor,
10:28many times it happens that the federation goes,
10:30the decisions come in the favor of the federation,
10:32the decisions come against the federation,
10:34meaning the federal government.
10:36They accept it.
10:37If this custom is broken,
10:39if this custom is broken,
10:40that when the decision comes from the last court against you,
10:43then instead of accepting it,
10:45you go to the Parliament and change the law
10:48on the basis of which the decision has been made against you,
10:50that there will be no Bans and there will be no Bansri.
10:53So this will affect the work of the federation,
10:56the work of the state will be affected
10:58and the Parliament versus the Supreme Court will happen.
11:01This is a matter of a broader spectrum.
11:03Let's go into new detail.
11:04So I will tell you in short,
11:06that if you have any right today,
11:09according to the law,
11:11whatever law I make tomorrow,
11:13it can be for the future.
11:15In the past,
11:16you cannot make any of my actions a crime.
11:19Neither can you take my property from me,
11:21my right from me,
11:22nor can you take the shares of my bank from me.
11:24Yes, you can stop me in the future.
11:27So in the past,
11:28the benefit that Tariq Ansaab has received,
11:30or the right he has received,
11:31this is a suitable word,
11:32you cannot snatch it.
11:34Okay, now there is a very big question mark in this,
11:37in the existing communities,
11:39there is Muslim League Noon and People's Party,
11:41in which the respected members of the People's Party
11:43were very angry today.
11:44It was very sad.
11:45Such speeches do not benefit the Parliament or democracy.
11:48We have seen it in the politics of the 90s,
11:51we have seen the result of it.
11:54This question is very important to me.
11:58Do ask those people,
12:00that what has happened with Tariq Ansaab
12:02in the past two years,
12:04our leader was caught,
12:06he was shot,
12:07then he was put in jail,
12:08the marks were snatched,
12:09people were picked up,
12:10papers were snatched,
12:11a complete ban was imposed on Tariq Ansaab,
12:14our people were made invisible,
12:16even today Haji Imtiaz Sahib is invisible,
12:18even today we have this complaint,
12:20that our MNA,
12:21Ijaz Sahib,
12:22by torturing his son,
12:25his voice was told to his mother,
12:28that he should stop his father,
12:30that he should not be involved in Tariq Ansaab,
12:33and there are many such examples,
12:34Amir Sultan Sahib was picked up,
12:36Jamshed Dasti Sahib was picked up,
12:38our Jatoi Sahib is a member,
12:40he was picked up,
12:41all these things,
12:43by taking such a stand,
12:45and by making such a legislation,
12:48are the People's Party and Noon League
12:50owning all these actions,
12:52or are they distancing themselves from it?
12:54Okay, this question has come,
12:55we will ask this question to them,
12:56absolutely right,
12:57okay,
12:58this is about today's legislation.
13:00Now let's go back to yesterday,
13:02where after 9th May,
13:03yesterday was the first official Jalsa.
13:07Now let me show this to the viewers,
13:09then Ali Khan Sahib,
13:10you tell us,
13:11yesterday itself,
13:12a few hours before the Jalsa,
13:13Afwaj-e-Pakistan did a press conference,
13:15and about 9th May,
13:16there was a question again,
13:17that question and answer,
13:18first,
13:19show it to the viewers,
13:20what happened yesterday.
13:21One topic is 9th May,
13:23about which you announced,
13:24the army had a clear position,
13:26that until those who did this,
13:27are not asked for forgiveness,
13:29they will not be able to talk to them.
13:32Big anchors are giving news,
13:34that some non-political people are talking,
13:36with the head of the Jamaat,
13:38who was involved in 9th May,
13:40and some deal talks are taking place.
13:42What is the latest update on this?
13:44Has the army softened its position?
13:46Because on the other hand,
13:47some statements are coming,
13:49some soft statements are coming from the other side,
13:51which shows,
13:53that they have created some softness in their position.
13:56On this topic,
13:58the very clear position of the army,
14:01which was stated in the press conference of 7th May,
14:06there has been no change in it,
14:09nor will there be.
14:12And what was the topic of 7th May?
14:16Please show us a glimpse of it.
14:18If a political thought,
14:20or a political leader,
14:22or a political party,
14:23attacks its own army,
14:25and creates hatred and animosity,
14:27between the people and the army,
14:29which is the army of the nation,
14:31and humiliates the martyrs of the same nation,
14:33and threatens the army of the same nation,
14:36and propagandizes,
14:37then no one will talk to them.
14:39There is only one way for such a political thought,
14:42that they apologize with a sincere heart,
14:44in front of the nation,
14:45and promise,
14:46that they will leave the politics of hatred,
14:49and take part in constructive politics.
14:51And anyway,
14:52the talks,
14:54give the political parties,
14:57and the army,
14:58or the institutions,
14:59are not at all suitable for these talks.
15:27Go and apologize,
15:28and he will forgive you.
15:29If he forgives you,
15:30then the country will function.
15:31If you do a press conference,
15:33the country will not function.
15:34You will have to admit your mistake.
15:38Now, Ali Muhammad Khan sir,
15:39this is absolutely,
15:41you both are standing poles apart.
15:44One is looking here,
15:45the other is looking there.
15:46Exactly what he is saying to you,
15:47you are telling him.
15:48He is saying,
15:49without apologizing,
15:50it won't work,
15:51you will have to admit your mistake.
15:52And you are also telling him,
15:53that brother,
15:54don't do a press conference,
15:55apologize,
15:56without apologizing,
15:57it won't work.
15:58You both are standing poles apart,
16:00so how will this problem be solved?
16:04Look,
16:05there is a meeting point in this.
16:06What is that?
16:07Now,
16:08the DG who is saying,
16:10that there should be an investigation,
16:12so for DG sir's information,
16:14when he was not a DG,
16:16then the DG who was before him,
16:17from that time,
16:18Imran Khan sir,
16:19after 9th May,
16:20when he was presented for the first time in the Supreme Court,
16:23from that day,
16:24till today,
16:25he has only one position.
16:27On this,
16:28make a judicial commission,
16:29under the Supreme Court,
16:30Pakistan's Supreme Court.
16:32There is no bigger court in this country than that.
16:34On that,
16:35DG sir will also have confidence,
16:36we have it,
16:37and all the people,
16:38you will also have it.
16:39There should be an investigation under the Supreme Court,
16:41whose fault it is,
16:42he should apologize.
16:43The second thing is,
16:44I want to say this to DG sir,
16:46the army that you are serving today,
16:48tomorrow you won't be there,
16:49this army will be there,
16:50that is our army too.
16:51The crores of people behind us,
16:53that is our army too,
16:54the army of the people of Muslim League Noon,
16:56the army of Jamiat people too,
16:57and the people's party people too.
16:59So that is why,
17:00when you talk to someone,
17:01calling them a conspiracy group,
17:03you create a distance.
17:05Don't do that.
17:06The conspiracy group is definitely the one,
17:08who said the medicine,
17:09who made a mistake.
17:10But,
17:11it is not right to tag crores of people with it.
17:13See,
17:14what is the situation right now?
17:15Pakistan has security concerns,
17:17Pakistan has threats,
17:18internal and external.
17:19Ali bhai,
17:20on a lighter side,
17:21if you want to move forward,
17:22everyone should accept their mistake.
17:24Till yesterday,
17:25when he used to say the same thing,
17:26about the same department,
17:27the same translation,
17:28about some other Jamaat,
17:29he used to be called a conspiracy group.
17:31See,
17:32now he has said,
17:33that he is a traitor.
17:34He is a traitor.
17:36Let me complete my sentence.
17:39I want to say that,
17:41right now,
17:42there are internal and external security threats.
17:44The need is that,
17:45the nation and our institutions,
17:47including the army,
17:48inter-services,
17:49other institutions,
17:50police,
17:51rangers,
17:52all of them should be killed.
17:53Right now,
17:54we don't want to marginalise people.
17:56We don't want to be inclusive,
17:57we don't want to be exclusive.
17:58You have tribal issues,
18:00terrorism issues,
18:01there are issues in Balochistan,
18:03there is a lot of protest.
18:04And,
18:05if in this situation,
18:06that Jamaat,
18:07which is the biggest Jamaat in the country,
18:08which,
18:09till today,
18:10and till tomorrow,
18:11when we are in government,
18:12and even after the government,
18:13our worker,
18:14just like that,
18:15used to defend his country,
18:16and the armed forces,
18:17just like Mr. Imran Khan did.
18:19Yes,
18:20we have an objection to the role of the army,
18:21or the institutions,
18:22in politics.
18:23The rest of the institutions,
18:24are our institutions.
18:25But,
18:26when you connect the actions of a few people,
18:27to a crore of people,
18:28that this is everyone's,
18:29and all of this is a group,
18:30see,
18:31a crore of people,
18:32Ali bhai,
18:33Ali bhai,
18:34okay,
18:35go ahead.
18:36But,
18:37I am saying that,
18:38what is the solution to these issues?
18:39Yes,
18:40you have also learnt this,
18:41look,
18:42you are saying that,
18:43when he came to politics,
18:44this much,
18:45on top of each other,
18:46you are saying that,
18:47you have not taken part in politics,
18:48which is absolutely right.
18:49Till yesterday,
18:50if your government,
18:51and you,
18:52political parties,
18:53which were yours,
18:54yours,
18:55but,
18:56we were telling them,
18:57to vote for us,
18:58that is also wrong.
18:59But,
19:00without going into the details,
19:01it is not a very old thing,
19:02when Mr. Tareen,
19:03and others,
19:04went out to meet,
19:05from the protest,
19:06with the same friends,
19:07with the people of the army,
19:08so,
19:09a statement was made by Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
19:10and a statement was made by DJI SPR,
19:11at that time,
19:12they were standing on the floor of the house,
19:13and they were saying,
19:14that,
19:15no,
19:16they did not say,
19:17that,
19:18look,
19:19one statement is of Nawaz Sharif,
19:20and the other is of DJI SPR,
19:21and I don't know,
19:22who is speaking the truth,
19:23they said,
19:24no,
19:25they said,
19:26tell us,
19:27the army has said,
19:28that Nawaz Sharif is lying,
19:29so,
19:30it has been proved,
19:31that Nawaz Sharif is lying.
19:32Till then,
19:33the statement coming from there,
19:34used to be a proof,
19:35for you,
19:36but,
19:37it is not today.
19:38Mr. Wasim,
19:39look,
19:40in politics,
19:41all of us,
19:42have to learn,
19:43and for the betterment of the country,
19:44we have to make informed,
19:45and mature decisions,
19:46keeping ourselves aside,
19:47I always say,
19:48that,
19:49everyone has to get down,
19:50from their ego,
19:51from their ego,
19:52and have to think,
19:53about 25 crores.
19:54Today,
19:55if some decisions of the past,
19:56are being reminded to us,
19:57and it is being said,
19:58then,
19:59what,
20:00General Ayyub Sahib,
20:01General Zia ul Haq Sahib,
20:02or Musharraf Sahib,
20:03now,
20:04none of them,
20:05are in this world.
20:06Is it their fault,
20:07that we are afraid of,
20:08DJI SPR Sahib,
20:09or the present army chief,
20:10or the present,
20:11officials,
20:12no,
20:13no,
20:14no,
20:15no,
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