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Agla aik Saal Imran Khan kay liye kaisa Hoga? Mohammad Malick's Analysis
Agla aik Saal Imran Khan kay liye kaisa Hoga? Mohammad Malick's Analysis
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00:00We have seen from 5th August till now, it's been 12 months since Mr. Khan has been in jail.
00:05From this 5th August to the next 5th August, do you think it's not strange that he has to spend another year in jail?
00:10Or do you think, no, this won't last that long, this matter has to reach some end.
00:14There is a lot of time till the next 5th August.
00:17Look, here the effort will be made to keep him in jail, and this talk will continue,
00:22there will be noise, there will be jalsas, there will be noise, but the government will continue.
00:27But again, it's the same thing, that the courts are very important right now.
00:32We forget that there are tribunals.
00:34If the tribunals' decisions start coming, the tribunals of Punjab, the tribunals of Islamabad,
00:40that will be another spark that can immediately change the political landscape.
00:48That's why he is still in his place, he is still in the Supreme Court.
00:52If he passes a bill in the court and then makes another move,
00:56I think he will be out of jail for a couple of months,
01:02but the tribunals and the Supreme Court, where the decisions will come very fast.
01:08So, Mr. Malik, if I ask a direct question, if it comes to a level where there is no control,
01:13for example, there is no number control to bring a constitutional amendment,
01:16there is no tribunal control, there is no control over the Supreme Court's decisions,
01:19if they call and start fighting, then they are the courts.
01:22So, in that situation, is the martial law emergency completely out of the question,
01:28or do you think that they will try?
01:30The financial situation is not such that it can be put in place,
01:32but if everything is completely out of hand, then maybe the matter will go there as well.
01:37Look, I think the establishment will try its best to manage things through its political proxies to the last extent.
01:44But if there is no talk of political proxies,
01:48and there is no talk of changing faces,
01:51that instead of the Muslim League, the People's Party comes up,
01:53I think a desperate stage can come where you change the top.
01:57And if that does not happen, then I do not rule it out.
02:02I am speaking with great fear, because this is not good for the country in any way,
02:06for our democracy, for the media, but it is not out of the question at the moment.
02:12Where things are stuck, where heads are stuck,
02:16everyone is surviving in an existential threat.
02:19The army chief considers it an existential threat,
02:21Mr. Khan is worried about his existential threat.
02:24Both political leaders and the People's Party are in an existential threat.
02:28The Supreme Court's top judge is also worried about his own survival.
02:34So, where the first priority of all power centers is their own survival,
02:39then the survival of the country is in danger.
02:42And some of our friends, who talk to my PTI people,
02:46they also understand, they think,
02:48that what if there is a channel of conversation going on,
02:50not directly, they are not doing it themselves,
02:52but a group of friends are in the middle,
02:54in which the other side is also face-saving,
02:56who can say that we have not spoken,
02:58if the game goes bad, then.
03:00So, in your opinion, is there no conversation going on in any forum,
03:04or is it just that there is no direct conversation going on?
03:06No sir, they are not going on in any forum,
03:08they are not going on in any forum,
03:10but if the People's Party gets a central role,
03:12then I have a very good chance that
03:14the conversation can go on sideways,
03:16on the sidelines,
03:18and a negotiated settlement will come.
03:20As long as the PMLN is sitting at the top,
03:24I see it as impossible to have a negotiated settlement.
03:28So, this means that,
03:30and one last thing,
03:32what you are saying,
03:34the constant presence of press conferences,
03:36even last time you said,
03:38we will interact more with you,
03:40this too, in a way,
03:42you can say that,
03:44I have not been able to manage the government,
03:46the government is not able to make its own narrative,
03:48what will it make for others?
03:50So, now they are coming and talking themselves.
03:52Today's press conference was very important,
03:54in the sense that,
03:56one, they reiterated on 9th May,
03:58and ended all these things,
04:00which people thought,
04:02which you were also asking,
04:04one, they ended it.
04:06Secondly, today's press conference,
04:08we noted that,
04:10they were talking about the achievements of the army,
04:12as an institution, we did this, this, this.
04:14And when it came to smuggling,
04:16and someone said,
04:18you are sitting at the borders,
04:20then the answer came,
04:22who gives these permits,
04:24we are not giving anything.
04:26And if we catch terrorists,
04:28or smugglers,
04:30then the legislation that should be there,
04:32and agriculture, these are provincial subjects.
04:34So, if no one else is doing it,
04:36then should we not do it?
04:38Today, it was clearly visible,
04:40that there was a desire,
04:42or an effort of the army,
04:44that you see the army separately,
04:46do not bracket us with the government.
04:48Now see what we are doing,
04:50as army, and we are doing it for the country,
04:52we are not so clever,
04:54we are doing so much,
04:56what are we doing as an institution for the country?
04:58So, you see a slight distance,
05:00earlier, in one breath,
05:02we used to talk about both.
05:04Now, the declared enemy is PTI,
05:06but the ownership of the government,
05:08today, that ownership of the government,
05:10from the institution side,
05:12was not visible,
05:14when it was visible before.
05:16So, this was very important to me,
05:18because of the press conference,
05:20that this little distance,
05:22like you move one step aside,
05:24not much,
05:26a slight step aside,
05:28this is one development,
05:30but very soon, we are moving towards
05:32very big decisions.