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00:00When I saw the de-aging in the Spark part, I felt like talking about it.
00:05Vijay, this didn't work out, I didn't do a proper CGI.
00:08What do you think about this?
00:09So, I'm very happy that they've done de-aging in this.
00:14Because they're bringing a technology to Tamil cinema first.
00:17Even though I'm happy, the output is not satisfied.
00:21Techniques and time are the villains for the output.
00:32Because the speciality of Hollywood films is that they take time.
00:43They've seen Avengers, Marvel and Hollywood films.
00:49In Hollywood, they would've given 3 years for Avengers.
00:53You don't give that timeline.
00:56Because Tamil cinema doesn't have such a big timeline.
00:59It hasn't even been 6 months since we announced the vote.
01:08In Tamil cinema, there's a problem with marketing.
01:11Because they don't know about it, we went to Cairns and got selected.
01:18There's a category in Cairns.
01:20If you don't pay, they'll release your film.
01:30Hello to the viewers of One India.
01:32Yesterday, the Spark part was released.
01:36Vijay's de-aging has become a topic on social media.
01:44To talk about CGI, let's talk to Vinod Arumugam.
01:54Yesterday, the Spark part was released.
01:57When we got updates about the Goat film,
02:01we asked if Vijay had used de-aging.
02:06Venkat Prabhu took a photo from the CGI office
02:12to show that the Avengers are using CGI.
02:17Yesterday, when we saw the de-aging in the Spark part,
02:21it was a topic on social media.
02:23It didn't suit Vijay.
02:25What do you think about this?
02:31As a Vijay fan, I really like Vijay.
02:35His look in Leo was really good.
02:38I'm happy that he has used de-aging in this.
02:42Even though I'm happy that he has used technology for Tamil cinema,
02:47the output is not satisfied.
02:52This is to be expected.
02:54When we bring a new technology,
02:56it is to be anticipated.
02:58Another thing is that
03:00if they bring a new technology,
03:03how many minutes will they use it for?
03:07We have only seen a small visual.
03:11Even if we criticize the visual,
03:16the impact can be seen in the screenplay.
03:26When I saw it,
03:30they would have done better.
03:32When you look at Vijay's market,
03:35and his physique,
03:37they could have done better.
03:41If they are going to use it in the story,
03:46they should be very careful.
03:48They shouldn't have dipped the experience.
03:52From that angle,
03:54they should have done better.
03:56That's what I feel.
03:59A lot of people say that
04:01de-aging is an organization
04:03that did CGI for Hollywood movies.
04:10What do you think about this?
04:16I want to look at it technically.
04:18I will divide this question into two parts.
04:22First,
04:24If you want any technology to work in cinema,
04:27there are four factors.
04:291. The technology you use.
04:312. Budget.
04:333. Time.
04:354. Techniques.
04:37If all these four are set,
04:39the output will be good.
04:41You have to pay for any technology.
04:43In this film,
04:45I don't think money is a problem.
04:48Vijay has a good market,
04:50so there is no budget constraint.
04:53They have used AI for technology.
04:56Disney has released a software called Fron.
05:02So, there is no possibility
05:04of letting technology down.
05:06They have a budget.
05:08Techniques and time
05:10are the villains for the output.
05:13Harrison Ford's Indiana Jones 5
05:21is 70 years old.
05:23It has been de-aged to 30 years old.
05:25Samuel L. Jackson in a Marvel film
05:27has been de-aged to a young age.
05:30The speciality of Hollywood movies
05:34is that they take time.
05:37Indiana Jones 5 has been produced for 3 years.
05:42Do you know what AI does?
05:46The more time you give to AI,
05:50the better the output will be.
05:52Deepfake technology is evolving.
06:02It is not a complete technology pack.
06:06It is evolving.
06:08If you give a lot of time,
06:12the output will be good.
06:14If you give a lot of time,
06:16the output will be unsatisfactory.
06:21For this problem,
06:25they have worked with Avengers,
06:27Marvel and Hollywood.
06:31Hollywood would have given
06:33Avengers 3 years of time.
06:35If you give that timeline...
06:38Tamil cinema has such a long timeline.
06:41It hasn't even been 6 months since
06:43the announcement of Avengers 3.
06:45When they gave this timeline,
06:47even the director and team
06:49wanted to measure the timeline
06:51and release it within that time.
06:53They would have come to a compromising point.
06:57They thought that time was the constraint.
07:01Even if it was done by Avengers graphics unit,
07:06if you give the right factors,
07:08budget, technology,
07:10and time,
07:12you will get the output.
07:14Lastly, there is a technical problem.
07:18Kamal would have acted as Kullam
07:22in the movie Aboorva.
07:24It is not only the digital graphics
07:28that make Kamal act as Kullam.
07:30The cinematographer and lighting
07:34distract you technically.
07:38It may be the use of light
07:40or the use of colors.
07:42There are limitations.
07:44When you shoot a movie,
07:46when you do something new,
07:48when there is a chance
07:50for it to go wrong,
07:52the director and cinematographer
07:56and costume designer and art director
08:00use a technique to distract you.
08:02They make you believe that Kamal is Kullam.
08:06In this case,
08:08they have only released the song.
08:10An important problem in deepfake is
08:12when there are a lot of movements,
08:14it is very limited.
08:18If you give a realistic photo,
08:22it will be photorealistic
08:24because it is a static image.
08:26As you give motions to AI,
08:30the output starts to change.
08:32To correct the output,
08:34you have to give a lot of time.
08:36Only then will the result be good.
08:40Even if there are a lot of movements,
08:44even if it is a static image,
08:48it will look good.
08:50It will look good.
08:52Even if it is a static image,
08:54it will look good.
08:56It will look good.
08:58If you take photos in frames,
09:00it will look good.
09:02It will give a good static output.
09:04Maybe it will look good in a visual scene.
09:10Since there are a lot of movements,
09:14there is a chance that AI will mess up.
09:16That is an important reason.
09:18The second part of this question is...
09:22There is something called Avengers.
09:24This has been happening in Tamil cinema for a long time.
09:28Tamil cinema should be seen as a victim.
09:30These people will be cheated.
09:34If you take an Avengers movie,
09:38or a Marvel movie,
09:40if they make graphics for it,
09:42they will give it to a company.
09:44That company can't do it by themselves.
09:48They need a lot of resources.
09:50They will make chunks and clips.
09:54They will outsource it.
09:56Marvel, Avengers, Batman,
10:00if you look at the graphics,
10:04at least 5 to 10 companies in India
10:06will be involved in it.
10:08They will be given 3 to 5 minutes
10:12to make the graphics.
10:14China, Philippines, Hong Kong,
10:16India, this is the highest graphics market.
10:18Because the cost is low.
10:20Their salary is also low.
10:24If you take a movie,
10:26not just one company will work.
10:28Many people have worked under that company.
10:30What they will do is...
10:32This is something that always happens in Tamil cinema.
10:36What they will do is,
10:38they will market the movie
10:40as if they made the entire movie.
10:42Or they will go to Hollywood
10:44and open a small office.
10:46They will say,
10:48this is a Hollywood company
10:50and we will do it.
10:52In Tamil cinema,
10:54there is a problem with marketing.
10:56What they will do is,
10:58since they don't know about it,
11:00they will say,
11:02we went to Cairns and selected our movie.
11:04There is a category in Cairns.
11:06If you pay money,
11:08they will release your movie.
11:10Many people don't know about it.
11:12What they will do is,
11:14if you pay money,
11:16they will release your movie.
11:18They will say,
11:20our movie has been selected for the Oscars.
11:22They will say that.
11:24If you have that kind of marketing,
11:26they will say,
11:28Hollywood stuntmen have worked for this movie.
11:30Hollywood graphics company
11:32have worked for this movie.
11:34But,
11:36it is good for marketing.
11:38It is good to talk about it.
11:40The fans of Tamil cinema will enjoy it.
11:42The fans of Avengers will enjoy it.
11:44The fans of Avengers will enjoy it.
11:46The fans of Marvel will enjoy it.
11:48The fans of Marvel will enjoy it.
11:50The fans of Marvel will enjoy it.
11:52But,
11:54Hollywood output will not come
11:56just because you say Hollywood.
11:58They have produced
12:00an animation movie
12:02or a graphic movie
12:04for five years.
12:06If you take it here,
12:08they have produced Bhogabali for three years.
12:10The shooting time will be less.
12:12But,
12:14it will take more time
12:16to produce the graphics.
12:18So,
12:20there is no problem
12:22if you say that you are involved
12:24in Hollywood.
12:26If you pay for it,
12:28you will get Hollywood stuntmen
12:30and make-up men.
12:32Which story are you going to use it for?
12:34In a movie,
12:36Shankar used freeze technology
12:38to make a song.
12:42But, in Matrix,
12:44it was used for a fight.
12:46You have money.
12:48You will get the technology.
12:50But, how are you going to use it?
12:52How much time are you giving them?
12:54How are you going to use it in the story?
12:56All these things
12:58will give you the experience
13:00and satisfaction.
13:02If I had money,
13:04I would have given it to them.
13:06It will be easier to talk about marketing.
13:08If you look at the news,
13:10they will say this 10 times
13:12during the promotion.
13:14It is not a matter of that.
13:16There is a question
13:18of how much time you give them.
13:20We have a time constraint.
13:24We will get a disappointing output.
13:26If you give ample time,
13:28the team will do it well.
13:30I don't have a problem with the budget.
13:32We have to consider all these things.
13:34To make the output
13:36disappointing,
13:38I look at both.
13:40I look at time as a villain.
13:42Maybe the unit itself
13:44is a victim.
13:46They may have overestimated
13:48and given it to a company.
13:50In Endurance 2,
13:54they faced a huge loss.
13:58If we combine all these things,
14:00we can understand
14:02why the output is disappointing
14:04and whether it is okay
14:06for Tamil cinema.
14:10You said something about
14:12de-aging.
14:14It is not good
14:16because it involves
14:18a lot of motion.
14:20If they had used it
14:22in stunts,
14:24the output would have been
14:26similar.
14:28That is what I am saying.
14:32There is a technique.
14:36If you focus too much,
14:38it will not work.
14:42If you keep it long,
14:44there will be a compromise.
14:48In stunts,
14:50they have more stunt movements
14:52and he has calculated
14:54stunt movements.
14:56Technique plays a vital role.
15:00The stunt master,
15:02cinematographer,
15:04lighting,
15:06composing...
15:10If I know so much,
15:12the consultants
15:14who get crores
15:16will be the first to come.
15:18They will be in the shooting spot.
15:20They will also guide.
15:22The people sitting here
15:24will know a lot.
15:26The consultants
15:28will have told them
15:30how much they can do
15:32and how much motion
15:34they can capture.
15:36We do not know
15:38what technique they used.
15:40There are two basic techniques.
15:42One is tax.
15:44They capture the motion
15:46with tax.
15:48They have already created
15:50an image of an age
15:52and superimpose it.
15:56Then the motions
15:58will look like a face swap.
16:00Another technique is
16:02they take old pictures of Vijayan
16:04and give it to the machine learning
16:06neural network.
16:08They take the face features
16:10and patterns
16:12and try to
16:14regenerate the input.
16:16The consultant
16:18will have explained
16:20how to do it.
16:22This is how much
16:24the output will be.
16:26How will it work?
16:28A consultant
16:30will sit with you
16:32and give suggestions
16:34on what scenes to use.
16:36They have planned it properly.
16:38If we use eye color
16:40and light
16:42to create
16:44fast dance movements
16:46it may look
16:48a little disappointing.
16:50As far as I know
16:52this would be better
16:54in a movie.
16:56There is a possibility.
16:58They would not have left it
17:00just like that.
17:02The fast movements
17:04may not have captured them.
17:06Stunts
17:08do not have fast movements.
17:10You can manage it.
17:12I do not know
17:14where they used screenplay.
17:16But I believe
17:18they would have done it very carefully.
17:20Thank you for
17:22joining us.