• 5 months ago
In a heart-wrenching incident, three UPSC aspirants have died after a basement at an IAS coaching center in Delhi's Rajendra Nagar was flooded. Reports suggest the basement was being used illegally for commercial purposes. This tragedy has ignited political chaos, with the BJP accusing the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) government of criminal negligence. As rescue operations continue and protests erupt across the city, we explore the details of this devastating event and the political ramifications. Join us as we investigate who is truly responsible for this disaster.

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00:00Is it enough or we just get awakened when someone dies then we are talking about it
00:05otherwise we wouldn't have even talked about the kind of situation that we have of Delhi streets
00:11It is a classic case of multi-organ failure and there are very many regions
00:15every time we have such untoward incident the media also wakes up
00:19and the government also swings into action
00:22They have their canteens in the basement and it's running in a free flow
00:26There is nobody who is coming and going to you know stop it until and unless someone dies
00:31All those who are responsible must be must be brought to books
00:34as my learned panelists both had legal humanities so to say
00:38I totally agree with them on this point
00:40What is the way ahead? Is it going to continue like this?
00:43Millions and millions of rupees involved
00:45It's a private you know education system
00:48What is it happening in India?
00:50Nobody is bothered about welfare of the students and things
00:54We have all sympathy for these three brilliant students who could be IAS officers in our country
01:00Hello and welcome I am Nagend Singh
01:02and today we are here to discuss one of the big issues that we are seeing in India
01:07and that's about how all these education institutes are working in India
01:13What kind of limitations are there?
01:15Is there corruption involved?
01:17How the death of three students took place in Rajinder Nagar?
01:22Who is responsible?
01:23And if the educationists of India have turned into mafia
01:29Well we are being joined by people from different departments
01:33We have an advocate, we have a retired police officer
01:37We have an educationist as well
01:39I am going to introduce you to everyone
01:41and then we are going to take further this discussion
01:45Who is responsible if Indian educationists are turning into a big mafia
01:52because it's a multi-billion business in India to educate students
01:58Well I have been joined by three of the panelists
02:01I have Alan Rao, he's a former DCP of Special Cell
02:06We have advocate Anubha Srivastav Sahay
02:08She's the president of India White Parents Association and child rights activist
02:14And then we have Mr. Braj Kishore Gupta
02:16He's an educationist and chief mentor gainship
02:21And the name of his organization is Gainstep
02:25Well first of all I'll go to Mr. Alan Rao
02:27Mr. Rao, who is responsible?
02:29What is happening?
02:30Is there corruption involved?
02:32When someone like MCD or the other departments
02:37They give them a place, the basement and everything
02:42We have figured out that there were no appropriate instructions
02:47given by MCD to run that particular place, that particular library
02:52But it was running in the basement
02:54So how does it really work?
02:56Who are the people who give these kind of...
03:02There are no restrictions on the kind of places
03:04that are being used by these big education departments
03:09Yes, this is a very serious incident
03:14which shattered the minds of so many of our Indians
03:18Especially when these three brilliant students were done to death
03:24because of some negligence on the part of...
03:27Not only negligence
03:28This is a case of culpable homicide
03:30not amounting to murder
03:32It is covered under section 105, 106 and 290 of BNC
03:37latest laws on BNC
03:41Offences has been explained in that
03:44Let me apprise of the facts till now
03:49which I have come across
03:50that this premises was being used as a library
03:55and a study room, a study place
03:57for the aspirants of the candidates
04:00who are preparing for IAS and civil services examinations
04:04and that was a basement
04:07If bylaws or building bylaws
04:09we can see that basement cannot be used for this type of purposes
04:12That is very clear
04:13The basement may be used for the purpose of storage some stuffs
04:20and particularly in some cases
04:22that some lawyers and some doctors and architects
04:27There are six categories
04:28They can be allowed to be used basement as their offices also
04:34But in this case, I must tell you
04:36there was some complaint about the sewage
04:39that water was coming into this place
04:42and there was previously a complaint as stated by the students
04:45and that was not looked after
04:48That complaint was not taken care of by anyone
04:51by the concerned officials of MCD
04:53and also there is a requirement of NOC
04:56NOC means no existence certificate by the fire department also
05:02Because the fire department also has to see
05:06if the place which is being used for the study purposes
05:09is worth using that
05:12If there is any fire incident
05:14then is there any escape route
05:16and in the basements also
05:18there is a provision in MCD bylaws
05:21that there should be another exit also
05:24There should be two exits
05:26so that in case of eventuality
05:28that there cannot be a stampede
05:30in that two exits can be used
05:32for evacuating these persons
05:34who have been trapped in any type of tragedy
05:38So this case seems to be the blatant ignorance
05:45or blatant misuse of the building bylaws
05:50and flouting the rules of MCD on these aspects
05:58So investigation is being carried out
06:00the persons I think seven persons
06:02have been arrested till now
06:04and further the investigation is being carried out
06:06and the whosoever is the responsible person
06:08in this case they will not be spared
06:10because this is a very serious
06:12you can say gruesome kind of incident
06:19There were almost 27 students who were there
06:22but when it comes to responsibility
06:25Rao IS they have come up with a statement
06:28but there is nothing more than
06:29the death of three students
06:32Well coming to Anuva Srivastava
06:34she is an advocate
06:36Ms. Srivastava what do you think
06:37what kind of actions are being taken
06:40will someone will really be responsible
06:42or it is just the decision of barring 13 institutes
06:45They have said that they are going
06:47to lock down 13 institutes in Delhi
06:51but is it enough or we just get awakened
06:54when someone dies
06:55then we are talking about it
06:56otherwise we wouldn't have even talked
06:58about the kind of situation
07:00that we have of Delhi streets
07:04Thank you for having me on this show
07:06and actually this is a very serious issue
07:10and as the panelist Mr. Rao also pointed out
07:14that these authorities must be booked
07:16for culpable genocide
07:18and also for criminal negligence
07:21because what has been done by these
07:23I don't know how come such institute
07:25was running in the basement
07:28there might be some other institute also
07:29maybe some in other basement area
07:33they have to they have to
07:36they cannot get permission
07:38how they got the permission
07:39how they got the NOC from fire department
07:41all these things needs to be investigated
07:43and strict action must be taken
07:46taken against not only the institute
07:48coaching institute
07:48but also against the authorities
07:50because they are the main culprits
07:52authorities are the main culprits
07:55who has given permission
07:56to run such institute
07:59coaching institute
08:00which is not allowed
08:01yes definitely you can do
08:03you can store
08:04you can do parking
08:05parking is allowed in basement
08:06storage is allowed
08:07but that also needs requires permission
08:10on what basis they got permission
08:13we have to we must find out
08:14and I would say that a CBI investigation
08:17must be ordered immediately
08:20against the authorities
08:21and the authorities
08:22who who will be
08:25can we say that there is one authority
08:26that is responsible
08:28where does the buck stop on this
08:30see the authorities
08:31or everyone is responsible
08:33not only MCD the fire department
08:36a fire department issues NOC
08:38to each and every building
08:39without NOC you cannot get OC
08:43that is mandatory
08:44how come this building was running
08:46and apart from the fire NOC
08:49they have to conduct inspection
08:51regular inspection
08:53why that was not being done
08:54by the fire department
08:55why that was not being done
08:56by the MCD
08:58why all these authorities were silent
09:00I don't know how many
09:02in how many buildings
09:04like in Mumbai BMC conducts inspection
09:08of all the schools
09:09of all the premises
09:10whether that structure is okay or not
09:13and then they issue notice
09:15I don't know how come in Delhi
09:16such things are not happening
09:17which is the capital of our country
09:19first part is that
09:20Delhi being the capital of our country
09:22has seen such incident
09:23what means situation in other cities
09:25and small towns
09:26don't know
09:27definitely if the government
09:29will not take action
09:30then I don't think these institutes
09:32or maybe other
09:33poaching mafias
09:34or any other business
09:36people who are doing such business
09:38in the premises
09:39using basement
09:40using illegal
09:42doing illegal activities
09:43I would say that
09:44this is an illegal activity
09:46and this must be stopped
09:47so that people in other states
09:50will not do such things
09:52we living in Delhi
09:53or we know about cities like Bombay
09:56it is all in front of us
09:58it is a daily thing which happens
10:01but all these issues become bigger
10:04we can think of the basement
10:05or a library in the basement today
10:07but there are multiple places
10:09they have their
10:11you know they have their cafes
10:13they have their canteens in the basement
10:16and it's running in a free flow
10:17there's nobody who is coming
10:18and going to you know stop it
10:20until and unless someone dies
10:22now let's go back
10:24to the educationist
10:25that we have
10:26Mr. Branj Kishore Gupta
10:28what do you think about
10:29you know what is happening
10:31in these institutes
10:32they charge from 1 lakh
10:34to 3 lakh to 4 lakhs
10:36to prepare you for IAS
10:38but they cannot give you a guarantee
10:41that your child is safe
10:43in that place
10:44where you know children
10:46are being sent for studies
10:47and they're spending hefty money
10:50they are paying hefty money
10:51to all these institutes
10:53without the basic necessities
10:55or the basic infrastructure
10:58thank you
10:58thank you for the for the invitation
11:01two of my learned panelists
11:03have had very legal perspectives
11:06and they're absolutely right
11:07I agree with them
11:08but first of all
11:09my heartfelt condolence goes
11:12for the parents of Sreya, Tanya and Dalvin
11:16it's very unfortunate
11:18that three young lives have been lost
11:22nothing can compensate that
11:24but what I feel
11:26we are more interested
11:27in doing lip service
11:29my focus is to understand
11:31the entire situation
11:33in a holistic perspective
11:34this is a classic case
11:36of multi-organ failure
11:38it is a classic case
11:39of multi-organ failure
11:41and there are very many regions
11:43every time we have
11:44untoward incident
11:45the media also wakes up
11:47and the government also
11:48swings into action
11:50and we have now
11:51a lot of media doing this
11:53but is this different
11:55from what happened in Kota?
11:57that's my question to the media
11:59it is not
12:00this is not one incident
12:01my friend
12:02this has been happening
12:03why does it happen?
12:04if we are
12:06if we are
12:07thinking or trying
12:08to punish the guilty
12:10that is very legitimate
12:11that is in accordance with the law
12:13but you have to go into
12:16the genesis of the matter
12:18who all are responsible
12:19it is not just the law
12:21if you see the credibility of law
12:23IS Coaching Institute
12:25it has done wonders
12:26in terms of producing IS
12:29but here the focus is not
12:32the credibility of the institute
12:34it is something else
12:36it is the security reason
12:38why did the students get locked up?
12:42it was primarily
12:43the failure of the biometrics
12:45number one
12:46number two
12:48as my learned panelist
12:50rightly talked about
12:51an NOC was required
12:52for running that kind of business
12:54that was not meant to be so
12:56and it was not one party
12:58that is to be singled out
13:00so what I feel
13:01we have to see education as a whole
13:04also because today
13:05we are talking
13:06not in terms of GDP
13:07we are talking about HDI
13:09human angle is very very important
13:11what is the fund in quality education
13:14if lives cannot be saved
13:15my friend
13:16government has to wake up here
13:18government has to give priority
13:20to education
13:20and when I say priority to education
13:22it is not just the quality of education
13:24if life cannot be saved
13:26where in lies the significance
13:28and importance of quality education
13:30my friend
13:30so saving life
13:31has to be the top priority
13:33and the government cannot be
13:35exonerated from the blame
13:37all those who are responsible
13:38must be brought to books
13:40as my learned panelists
13:41both are legal luminaries
13:43so to say
13:44I totally agree with them
13:45on this point
13:46but this is a classic case
13:47of multi-organ failure
13:51I stand by that
13:52but in such a scenario
13:54my question is to all three of you
13:56we'll keep it short
13:57one minute
13:59you must have children
14:01you are parents yourself
14:02so in a situation like this
14:05we already know
14:06that parents are spending so much
14:08but what are the things
14:09they are going to see
14:10before sending someone
14:11to a place like Rao IAS
14:13so many big institutions
14:15we are live from Noida sector 62
14:18even in this area
14:19we have multiple institutions
14:22all the IAS institutes are here
14:24but what should a parent think about
14:27in a place like India
14:29where we have no clarity
14:31or we cannot have a
14:33written guarantee
14:34from any of the institutions
14:35that their child is safe
14:36what are they going to think of
14:38before sending their kids
14:39to study to such institutions
14:41which are huge
14:42which are popular
14:44which are one of the best names
14:46in India
14:47if you want to become an IAS
14:49so what should a person
14:51what should a parent think
14:52before sending their kids
14:53to these kind of institutions
14:58my question is to all three of you
15:01see what can I comment
15:03sure sure
15:06as far as the institutes are concerned
15:08coaching institutes
15:12schools and other issues
15:14are separate
15:15but today we are discussing
15:16about coaching institutes
15:17not colleges and schools
15:19so people are facing problems
15:20even in colleges
15:21as far as coaching institutes
15:23are concerned
15:24you can see in the past
15:25four five years
15:26there's mushrooming of
15:28these institutes
15:29in every hook and corner
15:31across India
15:32so we have been demanding
15:33the government since a few years
15:35that bring a legislation
15:36to regulate these coaching
15:38institutes
15:39now the government has come up
15:40with a regulation
15:41and there are certain guidelines
15:43which these institutes
15:44have to follow
15:46otherwise their recognition
15:47will be cancelled
15:49or they will not be able
15:50to run the coaching classes
15:53so that is a good step
15:54no doubt
15:55but again implementation
15:56is a very big challenge
15:59as far as implementation
16:00is concerned
16:01we know the incident
16:02which happened in Delhi
16:04unfortunately
16:05these are students
16:06and the authorities
16:09as far as the NOC
16:11from fire department
16:12is concerned
16:13that was not in place
16:14and how they got NOC
16:16we don't know
16:16so corruption is there
16:17no doubt
16:18so even if the regulation comes
16:21we don't know
16:21whether the regulation
16:23will be implemented
16:24so parents are worried
16:25if we are sending our children
16:27to these institutes
16:28they must give us guarantee
16:29that yes your child is safe
16:31if there is any problem
16:32it's not only about the incident
16:34which happened
16:34if there is any mental problem
16:36the students are facing
16:37like in Kota and all
16:38whether they will be getting
16:39any counselor
16:40but so many things are there
16:42so it's high time
16:42that everybody
16:44should come forward
16:46not only that
16:46the coaching institutes
16:48or the government
16:49or the authorities
16:50every stakeholder
16:52who are involved
16:53must come forward
16:55to bring reform
16:56in education system
16:57in our country
16:58otherwise it is very difficult
17:00to survive
17:01has it become like a mafia?
17:04you think
17:04you think that
17:05it has become like a mafia
17:07operating in a big system
17:09in a legal manner
17:10yes it is like a mafia nowadays
17:13it is like a mafia
17:14that's why regulation is required
17:16now the anti
17:17so many
17:18now the regulation
17:19which has come
17:20definitely again
17:20to regulate coaching institute
17:22which we have been demanding
17:23we accept that
17:24the government must implement it
17:26on ground
17:27that is what we are expecting
17:28and strict action
17:30to demand a strict action
17:31against the authorities
17:32for this incident
17:35i can't discuss
17:36yes yes please
17:37if you want to say
17:38yes yes
17:39that regulation is
17:41by the government
17:42is most welcome
17:43and there are some guidelines
17:44as well as
17:45the standard operating procedure
17:47is also mentioned in that
17:49and i think that
17:50if it is implemented
17:51that is very important
17:53i agree with Balwaji
17:54that the most important part
17:56is that that
17:58how it is implemented
17:59the implementation part
18:01is most important
18:02because laws are there
18:03no doubt in that
18:04but if these are not followed
18:06or these are not implemented
18:07in a real
18:09latent speed
18:10then they are useless
18:12so in this case
18:13if there is any floating
18:14floating from these bylaws
18:15and by sections
18:16or the directions
18:18as prescribed by the government
18:20to run these institutions
18:22then there should be a
18:23strict action against them
18:24they should not be allowed
18:25to run all these things
18:26because definitely
18:27you can say indirectly
18:28that these are the mafias
18:31in the name of education
18:32they are selling the education
18:34because in the
18:35garb of these coaching institutions
18:37they are
18:37in this case also
18:38you can see that
18:41this organization was earning
18:42huge minting
18:43huge money
18:44but they could
18:45they could not
18:46take a space
18:47when the
18:49the students could accommodate
18:51in a very proper environment
18:53not in the basement
18:54but in some other floor
18:56which having a good light
18:58good air
18:58and everything
18:59because if they are being paid heavily
19:01then they should also take care
19:02of the welfare of the students
19:05so that they can
19:07they can learn
19:08so many other things also
19:09but in this case
19:10I think that was apathy
19:12on the part of the institution
19:14and other
19:15civil department
19:16as well as
19:17other authorities
19:18who are responsible
19:18to check all these
19:21irregularities
19:21and they could not
19:22they could not detect it
19:24and not only this
19:25I must tell you
19:26Mr. Nagendraji
19:27there are so many other
19:29institutions
19:30are going on in Delhi
19:31particularly
19:31and not only in Delhi
19:32also
19:33you can see
19:34go and see the quota
19:35quota area also
19:36is also very famous
19:37for these things
19:38so if you
19:39survey all these
19:41institutions
19:41survey all the places
19:43you will find that
19:43there are
19:44these bylaws
19:45and the rules and regulations
19:46are flouted like anything
19:48nobody is bothered about
19:50welfare of the students
19:51and we have all sympathy
19:53for these three
19:54brilliant students
19:55who could be
19:56IAS officers
19:57in our country
19:58but they are no more now
19:59because of the
20:01this
20:01negligent part
20:02and the
20:03apathy on the part of this
20:05organization
20:06owner
20:07and the coordinator
20:08or runner
20:08who was
20:09responsible in this case
20:11so
20:12this case
20:13after investigation
20:14will come out with these
20:15so many other
20:16answers
20:16all
20:17all
20:17questions
20:18that who are responsible
20:19and what action
20:20has been taken against whom
20:22there is no
20:24just the last question
20:25of course we want to
20:26wind up with you
20:29you have been in education
20:31for so many years
20:33you know
20:34how much of money
20:34is involved in this business
20:36you also know
20:37that how
20:38so many
20:39or so many
20:40educational institutes
20:41these
20:43centers
20:43coaching centers
20:44have erupted
20:45throughout India
20:46in last few years
20:48so where are we heading
20:49where are we heading
20:50as a nation
20:51in terms of education
20:53and
20:53what is the way ahead
20:55is it going to
20:55continue like this
20:56millions and millions
20:57of rupees involved
20:59it's a private
21:00you know
21:00education system
21:01what is it happening in India
21:04let me
21:04let me answer your question
21:05by asking a counter question
21:07why is that happening
21:09my learned
21:10panelists talked about
21:11the irregularities
21:12and corruption
21:13there is no denying that
21:14of course
21:15all that exists there
21:16and that must be checked
21:17I totally agree with them
21:19my point is
21:20why is the need
21:21for mushrooming
21:22of educational institutes
21:24our educational institutions
21:26are failing to cater
21:27to the aspirations
21:28of the students
21:29what is that aspiration
21:30all about
21:31joblessness
21:32these institutions
21:33promise you jobs
21:34and as a parent
21:35I would like my child to
21:37to get job
21:38yes or no
21:38you tell me
21:39so why is that happening
21:41so the question comes
21:42we have to revisit
21:43our education system
21:45what do I mean by that
21:47the curriculum system
21:48the curriculum that we have
21:50has to be restructured
21:52why can't we have
21:53teachers
21:54why can't we have
21:55study materials
21:56for our students
21:58that will prepare them
21:59for competitive exams
22:01like CLAT
22:03like civil services
22:05like engineering
22:06why can't we do that
22:08the problem is
22:09we are focused exclusively
22:11on an event that happens
22:13and we have discussions
22:14and debate on that
22:16and thereafter
22:17everything is forgotten
22:18till an untoward incident occurs
22:20so to conclude my friend
22:22I say
22:23we have to understand
22:24that the strength of India
22:26has always been education
22:28it was not for nothing
22:29that it was said
22:35that is not happening today
22:36we have to revisit
22:37our education system
22:39and in this context
22:40NEP has done a good job
22:41by bringing focus back
22:43on entrepreneurship
22:46on internship
22:49and on creating jobs
22:51but the other aspects
22:53how can we make
22:54our educational system
22:56across the nation
22:58competitive
22:59in terms of preparing
23:00our children
23:02only then
23:03only then can such
23:04mushrooming of educational institutions
23:07be stopped
23:08otherwise we will go on
23:09blaming and blaming
23:10and that will not
23:12resolve the malice
23:15which is eroding
23:16the very fabric of the nation
23:19however it seems
23:21it's a long way to go
23:22when we look at
23:23the number of institutes
23:25that we have
23:26the amount of money
23:27that is involved in it
23:29it seems like
23:30India has a long way to go
23:31if we want to reform
23:33our education system
23:35we know that the governments
23:36have been saying
23:36that they will be reforming
23:38and they are into the process
23:40they have of course reformed
23:42so much of the syllabus
23:44but let's see what
23:45how it goes
23:46in terms of you know
23:47reforming the higher education
23:49which is the demand
23:50of the country
23:51demand of so many youngsters
23:53who are who are jobless
23:56and of course I understand
23:57when you talk about
23:58that it all erupts
23:59from one place
24:00that of course
24:01everybody needs a job
24:02and millions of
24:03millions of students
24:04who are there
24:05they are still struggling
24:06they are trying for IAS
24:08for NEET
24:09for so many big exams
24:11that happen in India
24:12well thank you so much
24:14for everyone
24:15for joining and
24:16bringing in your perspective
24:18from the police department
24:20from the law
24:21and the educationist yourself
24:23thank you so much Mr. Rao
24:26Mr. Srivastava
24:28and Mr. Gupta
24:30I think we'll be connecting again
24:32and thank you for raising the issue
24:34we here at One India
24:36we have been on the ground
24:37since it all happened
24:39we have been bringing you
24:40the coverage
24:41and we are also bringing you
24:44some of the interviews
24:45of the eyewitnesses
24:46who were there
24:47at the spot
24:48when it all happened
24:50because mind you
24:50there were 27 students
24:53who were stuck
24:54thank you so much
24:54for your time sir
24:56I think we'll be connecting again
24:57and we'll have a longer chat
24:59when we can
25:00if we can call you
25:01thank you
25:01thank you
25:02thank you again
25:02thank you very much
25:05thank you very much
25:06thank you
25:07this is Nageen Singh for One India

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