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00:00Mr. Muhammad Ali Durrani, of course, has been giving a lot of important speeches.
00:05And in the recent past as well, what is going on behind closed doors, what can be done, what can't be done,
00:10based on his analysis, based on his information, and based on his character,
00:14he has been giving opinions.
00:15This is a situation where after a few days of debate,
00:18whether there is really a change in the atmosphere, what is happening, what is not,
00:20let's find out from him, what is his opinion about this, or what is the information.
00:24Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:26Wa-alaikum-us-Salaam.
00:56Bismillah-ir-Rahman-ir-Rahim.
01:27As far as the question is concerned, in the circles of the establishment,
01:31I think that for them, it is a good thing that the representative of the public,
01:37a political entity, which is a representative of the majority of the public,
01:44the government was trying to plan a clash with them,
01:51to which the leadership of the PTI, through its statement and its wisdom of action,
01:58has given a chance to the government.
02:02Do you think that this will melt the ice between the two?
02:05Between the PTI and Muqtada?
02:07I think that in reality, the ice will melt for someone else,
02:12but here, the fire that was being lit between the two,
02:16that fire is now possible to be extinguished.
02:18And it will be extinguished, Inshallah.
02:20Look, all the cases of the PTI and the establishment that have been made so far,
02:25whether it was the incident of 9th May, or all the other incidents after that,
02:30the role of inciting the fire has been played by the government.
02:36And through this step, I think that the wisdom of action that Mr. Khan has adopted,
02:43after that, this fire will definitely begin to be extinguished.
02:47To extinguish this fire, a very fundamental role has been played by the court of justice of Pakistan.
02:55And the role that the court of justice is playing at the moment,
02:58look, when any kind of justice begins to emerge in the society,
03:04then through that, sanity begins to emerge in the country.
03:08And that sanity, its effects are good for everyone.
03:12In your opinion, what would Mr. Nawaz Sharif be thinking about all this, or what would he be doing?
03:18I think that Mr. Mian was already worried, and he will be more worried.
03:24And do you think that the situation will change to such an extent that
03:28in the next 4-6 months, the survival of the government will be in danger?
03:32I am asking you, there are such restrictions.
03:33And the government cannot last for 4-6 months.
03:37No, I have been saying this for a long time, that this...
03:41I had said on the day of the election that when the public's opinion is not in favor of anyone,
03:47then the institutions of the country, whether it is the court of justice or the establishment,
03:52they cannot stand behind that power for a long time, which has become hollow due to the public's opinion.
03:59So the government that is in place at the moment,
04:02it is not on the ground, it is in the air,
04:04it is deprived of the support of the public,
04:06and the ability to do something in which it is deprived,
04:10this is such a government, and how can you run this government?
04:15This is a government that is on a respirator, or a government that is in a cold room.
04:25So do you think that whatever has happened in the last one and a half years,
04:30all the statements that have been made,
04:32and then whatever has come from there, from the establishment,
04:35is there a possibility that after these statements,
04:37the establishment should also forget all this and give some space and move forward with matters?
04:41This should happen, that is a different thing, you have clarified it.
04:44But do you think that this will happen in the near future?
04:48I think that this will definitely happen.
04:52Look, when the PTI people used to say that we will talk to the establishment,
04:56we will negotiate with this and that,
04:58I came at that time and said very openly that this is not their job,
05:03nor should they do this, nor will this happen,
05:06that the politicians should negotiate among themselves.
05:10However, as far as the establishment is concerned,
05:13bringing the establishment into a state of clash is not in the interest of Pakistan at the moment.
05:19And I think that as far as the army is concerned,
05:23the simplest understanding for the army will have to be done with the PTI.
05:31Otherwise, the other ends have so many skeletons of their own,
05:36that because of those skeletons, they cannot go towards any long-term settlement.
05:43And the conflict that comes with their national interest at every minute,
05:49becomes a conflict with that institution.
05:52And now I will give you another prediction from the future reference,
05:57that Mr. Khan, when I am seeing the courts at the moment,
06:02I can see that the government will change very soon in the parliament.
06:07And this will change through court decisions.
06:10And the change that will come in the assembly after the departure of 1947 and the arrival of 1945,
06:20will be dependent on the change of the government.
06:22So, today's government is going to be tomorrow's opposition and today's opposition is going to be tomorrow's government?
06:29Yes, it will be, it seems to be.
06:31And secondly, I would like to tell you that for Mr. Khan, after this statement,
06:37which is a bigger statement than this, we will expect from him,
06:40we will expect from him and the entire nation should expect from him,
06:43that he should now decide to come out of this jail as Nelson Mandela.
06:50He should come to the public with the agenda of national reconciliation.
06:55He should come back to his political life as a sign of understanding.
07:02And his return to the public should not be a sign of fear or danger for anyone,
07:09but a sign of progress for the country, happiness for the people and a sign of peace.