Ban on PTI: Does PPP support government's decision? Ghumman's analysis
Ban on PTI: Does PPP support government's decision? Ghumman's analysis
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00:00Let's talk to Bureau Chief Islamabad and Anchorperson Khawar Ghumman.
00:05Good morning, Khawar.
00:06Good morning, Khawar.
00:07We are saying good morning because sometimes the weather in Karachi is good.
00:12So, we feel like saying good morning.
00:14So, today we will be showing you our voice in a proud way.
00:18You tell us, how is the weather for you?
00:20First, let's start with him.
00:21The weather here is very good.
00:22It is raining almost on a daily basis.
00:25The weather in Karachi and Islamabad was very hot last week, but now the weather has improved a lot.
00:32Great.
00:33Now, let's move from good weather to hot political weather.
00:38This is the Cabinet meeting and the issue of restrictions will be discussed.
00:43One of my questions in this was, for starters,
00:47the statements that were given by the People's Party,
00:51Atta Tarar's press conference and everything,
00:54at that time, the statements were different.
00:56Yesterday, the way Sharjeel Memon was talking,
00:59and he was highlighting how he did the 9th incident,
01:03how he broke it up.
01:05Then, the statement of Sherry Rehman Sahiba,
01:07which we saw, had the same thing.
01:09So, has there been any change in the statements?
01:14Look, this is a very simple statement.
01:18I don't think there is a need for rocket science to understand this.
01:22The current government, Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
01:25needs a number of 167 to become a simple prime minister in the National Assembly.
01:31Okay.
01:32Those who are close to him,
01:34all those who came together and later met with him,
01:37it becomes 120 something.
01:39The rest, the basic majority,
01:43the support provided by the Pakistan People's Party,
01:47it is important to understand one thing,
01:50that the current government is established
01:53only because the Pakistan People's Party supports it.
01:56Okay.
01:57Today, in the next five minutes,
01:59in a moment, a statement will come
02:01from the leadership of the Pakistan People's Party,
02:05that if they do such a thing,
02:07then we will take back the support we have given to the government.
02:11So, the government will fall down.
02:13Therefore, I think…
02:15But such a statement is not coming.
02:17I am saying the same thing.
02:19Such a statement is not coming.
02:21I don't think it makes sense for me to raise questions.
02:25The People's Party is against this.
02:28The People's Party is not against this at all.
02:31If you are familiar with Islamabad,
02:33and Mr. Satti, who has visited this place,
02:36you must have also seen Islamabad.
02:38If you throw a stone between the presidency and the prime minister's office,
02:42you can easily throw it.
02:44Mr. Zardari can walk there,
02:46Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
02:48and they also go there and meet.
02:50Therefore, it is not possible
02:52that such a big decision,
02:54which is going to have such a serious impact on Pakistan's politics,
02:59and that government is established only because
03:02the Pakistan People's Party supports it,
03:05and the opinion of the Pakistan People's Party
03:07has not been taken in such a big decision.
03:09At least, in my opinion, this is wrong.
03:11But if you are sitting in Karachi and
03:13forming such an opinion,
03:15or you can do it...
03:16Actually, the thing is that we saw this presidency here,
03:19and in this presidency,
03:21a long time ago, we also saw that
03:23the party from which Mr. Farooq Laghari became the president,
03:25he overturned the throne of that party.
03:27So, sometimes, even while being close,
03:29the distances increase a lot.
03:30You never know.
03:31But here, you are right that
03:33here, the matter is something else,
03:34something else is going on.
03:35But, what will be the result in the future?
03:37Yes, but what is this today?
03:38Will the cabinet reach the conclusion
03:40that now we are going to do this,
03:42and the People's Party is still saying this,
03:44that first you decide,
03:45then we will discuss it.
03:47So, will there be a consensus on this today?
03:49Look, the news we have here,
03:52the sources are telling us that
03:54all the discussion has been done.
03:56The legal points have also been discussed.
03:59And last night, you also heard Mr. Attar,
04:02he is also saying that we are completely ready,
04:04and this decision is our hotel.
04:06Today, there is a cabinet meeting,
04:08and it is being said that
04:10in this cabinet meeting,
04:12a clear statement will be made
04:14regarding this decision,
04:16that whether the government is doing it or not.
04:18Now, there are two things.
04:20One thing is that
04:22the party should not be banned.
04:24Only Article 6,
04:26these 4-5 big ones,
04:28Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf, Kewani PTI,
04:30Sabik Sadar, Qasim Suria,
04:32and some other characters,
04:34whose vote of no confidence
04:36has been taken,
04:38should be put under Article 6,
04:40and should not be put under pressure.
04:42This is also being discussed.
04:44Look, today there is a cabinet meeting.
04:46What will happen?
04:48A statement that came out yesterday
04:50that it has been admitted
04:52that there is a possibility
04:54of an attack on arrest,
04:56this statement has been attributed
04:58to Bani PTI.
05:00Now, Khawaja Asif says that
05:02he has given a statement for pardoning.
05:04If you want to leave politics
05:06and come into the political arena,
05:08then more than welcome.
05:10But Salman Akram Raja says
05:12that he has not given any such statement.
05:14So, first tell us about this statement.
05:16And then Salman Akram Raja
05:18is also saying that the doors of dialogue
05:20should be opened.
05:22Now, from whom will the doors
05:24of dialogue be opened?
05:26Look, the doors of dialogue,
05:28you know that they had also
05:30made a committee and
05:32we listen to statements from the government,
05:34but neither have we
05:36spoken on behalf of Mr. Dardari,
05:38who is the President of Pakistan,
05:40nor on behalf of the Prime Minister.
05:42You must remember that
05:44a few years ago,
05:46the Prime Minister went to Karachi
05:48and the businessmen said
05:50that you should talk to the
05:52Diala machine
05:54in the country
05:56to improve the economy.
05:58I have not received any opinion
06:00on this from either side.
06:02Justice for Pakistan
06:04is present in the parliament.
06:06They say that these are our
06:08fundamental issues.
06:10We are ready to talk about them.
06:12Both sides are on
06:14their own stands.
06:16We do not see anything happening at the moment.
06:18As far as yesterday you
06:20spoke, you stated that
06:22in the jail,
06:24in the jail,
06:26our colleagues go,
06:28there the context is different.
06:30You are right.
06:32Obviously, the issues of communication
06:34and when the news
06:36comes out,
06:38we get
06:40a different impression.
06:42You are right in this sense.
06:44You know that
06:46one issue with a Jamaat
06:48was that their leadership
06:50was presented
06:52beyond the context and context.
06:54Secondly, these issues
06:56are present in so many places
06:58that the report is different.
07:00We got the idea of this
07:02when we were talking about
07:04remarks in the Supreme Court.
07:06Now that we are seeing this directly,
07:08we understand what the real issues are.
07:10Thank you so much.
07:12Mr. Khawar Ghumman,
07:14thank you for taking out
07:16your time for us.