• 5 months ago
On "Forbes Newsroom," presidential historian David Greenberg spoke about what could happen at the DNC if President Biden drops out of the 2024 race.

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Transcript
00:00Busy times. As I said to you before we started recording, I feel like I've lived a year in the last week.
00:06But let's talk about where we are right now. As we are recording this,
00:10top Democrats are calling on President Biden to drop out of the presidential race.
00:15What is the precedent for something like this to happen after so many voters have voted in the primaries?
00:22Really there is none. The primary system as we know it sort of started in 1972.
00:30There were primaries before that going all the way back to the early 1900s.
00:34But only in the 70s did they become the binding method for choosing the party's nominee.
00:42And since then, no one has ever dropped out after winning, which Biden, of course, won.
00:48He ran pretty much unopposed. There was a kind of token opposition in the form of Dean Phillips,
00:54an admirable Minnesota congressman who warned that Biden was not in good enough health
01:02or sort of at the top of his game strong enough to beat Trump in a rematch.
01:08But at the time, of course, people stuck with Biden, trusted in Biden and voted for Biden.
01:15So we really are in uncharted territory. You have to go back to the years before the primaries
01:23were the method for selecting nominees. And back then, that was done by the delegates.
01:30Party leaders in each state, governors, state senators, that sort of thing,
01:37who would decide our state's going for Kennedy, our state's going for Adlai Stevenson.
01:42And they would decide who the nominee was, not the voters at large.
01:48So are we in a situation now where if President Biden drops out of the race, it's down to these delegates at the DNC?
01:57That's exactly right. So right now, the delegates are bound. They're pledged to vote for Biden.
02:04But he can release them from that. He's the only one who can do that.
02:08That's why people have been waiting on Biden to say, I'm ready to step aside,
02:14which, as we're talking right now, he still hasn't done, although it's looking like that's at least more of a possibility
02:22than it seemed a week or two ago. So we will have a sort of strange and unfamiliar situation
02:30where roughly 4000 people will get to decide who who they want the nominee to be.
02:37And if there's one person nominated, then it'll be easy.
02:42If there's several people nominated, it'll be whoever gets to 50 percent of the delegates first.
02:48You may have to have several ballots before one person clears 50 percent.
02:53Of course, we're dealing in hypotheticals here. But just to continue down this hypothetical path,
02:57if President Biden drops out, he's on a ticket with Vice President Harris.
03:01So would he say or could he confer his delegates to Vice President Harris?
03:07Or do the delegates literally just get to be on the DNC floor and say,
03:12I want Bernie Sanders back or I want Hillary Clinton back or what happens there?
03:18Yeah, the delegates get to decide. I mean, Biden can put his thumb on the scales by saying,
03:23I endorse Vice President Harris. And if he does that, it would likely be in concert with other party leaders
03:31to try to create a fait accompli, the sense that she is the handpicked successor
03:38and that most of the delegates would therefore go along.
03:42It's also the case that, you know, it changes from convention to convention.
03:47But each year the rules specify how a nomination is made, how many signatures or votes you need to be a full fledged nominee.
03:59That is, you know, nominated to be the nominee. So you might not have more than one candidate.
04:07But if it's a truly open convention, as we call it, then, you know, in the past,
04:12sometimes people have from the floor, you know, on the second day of the convention,
04:16third day of the convention, we still don't have a nominee.
04:19Someone new is put into the mix and that scrambles everything.
04:23I don't think we're likely to go that route this year, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
04:30So anything is possible, it sounds like.
04:34Well, certainly there's a broad range of possibilities.
04:37I mean, right now, what I'm hearing is that there's a sense that Harris should be the nominee
04:45if it's not Biden. But there's a lot of other people who look at her polling and say she's not that strong against Trump.
04:54Shouldn't the party put forward the person who would be the best, strongest nominee?
04:59If we're going this unprecedented route of asking, let's face it,
05:05a successful one term president who's proven himself capable of beating Trump for asking him to step aside
05:12after having won all the primaries, we should only take that extraordinary measure in order to get the best candidate out there.
05:21And depending on, you know, your analysis, that may or may not be Vice President Harris.

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