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Jis Jamat Ka Hissa Hain Is par Hamlay Kiyu? Ch Ghulam Hussain Ka Fawad Chaudhry say sawal
Jis Jamat Ka Hissa Hain Is par Hamlay Kiyu? Ch Ghulam Hussain Ka Fawad Chaudhry say sawal
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00:00I don't think their policy of attacking a party is a wise policy.
00:07First of all, they should answer that all the people are wrong, you are right.
00:12Secondly, Pakistan has to go on the path of law and order.
00:19And from here, derailment, martial law or any other form that can be worse,
00:24it has to fall into its own hands.
00:27When you are talking to us, many of the MNAs have lost their homes.
00:33This can be called anything but democracy.
00:37This is the second question.
00:40Thirdly, if you don't want to run the country by law and order, then what is your intention?
00:49And the last thing is that they keep on beating around the bush.
00:54We are talking about Panama and Akama.
00:58No one understands better than you, Fahad Chaudhary,
01:02what Akama was and why he was punished.
01:06So if you think it is appropriate, then answer it today.
01:10Okay, you have said three or four things.
01:13The first thing is that the reality of Pakistan is that according to the law and order,
01:19Pakistan will not run.
01:21And the whole struggle is how to restore the law in Pakistan,
01:25which is a challenge for the judiciary, a challenge for civil society,
01:30and a challenge for the media in Pakistan,
01:33that how will we get back on track?
01:36Now, the criticism you are talking about on justice,
01:39First of all, my criticism is that your politics does not govern your legal strategy.
01:52It is the opposite.
01:53Your political strategy tells your legal strategy what you have to do.
01:57Now, the problem here is that you have heard every day for months,
02:01a lawyer comes and says that Imran Khan will come out after Eid,
02:05Chhoti will come out after Eid,
02:07this will not happen.
02:08And sometimes we say that we will not talk to someone,
02:12we will talk to the establishment, we will talk to them.
02:16All this is the political wisdom of the PTI,
02:20despite being such a big power, despite having such a big support,
02:26why couldn't the PTI get Imran Khan out?
02:29They couldn't get him out because their political strategy is not there.
02:33And their dependence is that maybe they will take Imran Khan out.
02:38This will not happen.
02:39Your political strategy was very important that
02:42the parties that do not agree with the elections on 8th February,
02:47and they think that they are involved,
02:49your alliance should have been with them by now.
02:52But this is the leadership of justice, they could not make an alliance.
02:56Maulana Fazlur Rahman, Hafiz Naeem, Peer Pagada,
03:00these were the people you had to talk to first.
03:05And the second thing is that if you talk to the establishment alone,
03:09it will look like you are asking for a deal.
03:11If you talk to the political party alone, it is of no use.
03:15So you don't talk about who you want to talk to,
03:18you give your agenda that this issue has to be discussed,
03:21everyone else can talk whatever they want to.
03:24But first of all, you make an opposition alliance.
03:27And this is a criticism of my practical wisdom.
03:30I did not make a personal criticism.
03:33Some people are already worried that if he comes, what will happen to us?
03:37I don't have a problem, but I don't need an office to come on TV or to talk.
03:42I don't have a problem with an office.
03:44And if I didn't have to live with Imran Khan,
03:47or if I had to become a minister, I was a minister in 2011 too.
03:51It is not a problem for me to become a minister.
03:53And all three of you know me very well.
03:56Even the policeman is not with me.
03:59If I have to drive my own car, then first close the road or the protocol.
04:03I don't have these issues.
04:05We do national politics.
04:07You can ask me in Halka.
04:09I don't even know who the SHO Patwari is, who the DPO is.
04:12I do development politics in Halka.
04:15And on top of that, I do national politics.
04:17I do traditional politics.
04:19Absolutely right.
04:20Mr. Fawad Sharif, I will come to you now, Hasan.
04:23Do you really think that after making an effective political strategy,
04:28the unity that you are talking about,
04:30Imran Khan can be thrown out of jail?
04:36Because the ground reality is that the balance of power
04:42is with the People's Party and Noon League.
04:45And why will the People's Party and Noon League agree
04:50to accept the status of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf?
04:53Because when they accept the status,
04:55then keeping the current situation in front of them,
04:58they will be finished.
05:00At least for now.
05:01We can see that.
05:02Look, there is no end to it.
05:05The People's Party is also a political reality.
05:08PMLN will also have to live.
05:10I am talking about the current situation.
05:12Look, when Maryam Nawaz was saying earlier
05:15that she was taking the narrative of giving respect to the vote,
05:18then Maryam Nawaz was a very effective political leader.
05:22So when that time changed,
05:24they did not get the election done at that time.
05:26In fact, timing is everything.
05:28That timing is not theirs.
05:30The matter is ruined.
05:31There is still time.
05:33And that is why political parties should be a little distant.
05:36Politics will not end with this.
05:38I am just saying that if Maulana Fazlur Rehman
05:42and PTI have an alliance today,
05:44what does it mean?
05:46It means that the entire province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
05:49that is, there are only two groups there,
05:51one is PTI, which is the majority group,
05:54and the opposition is JUI.
05:56So 100% of the province will go to one side of the federation.
06:00So how will you run the federation?
06:02If both the parties are not ready to go with you,
06:06you will have to bring them to the fold.
06:08After that, the street power,
06:10which is the street power of JUI at the moment,
06:13is very lethal.
06:15PTI has already defeated the government
06:18with political, moral and judicial trust.
06:21Now they are saying that you can take it physically.
06:24Hassan will ask you a question.
06:26I was not saying that their politics will end.
06:29I am saying that you just said that PTI has a two-thirds majority.
06:32People have voted.
06:33So PTI is saying that until our two-thirds majority is not accepted,
06:37if we do not talk about it, what will we do?
06:40Who are we talking to?
06:41I was talking in that sense.
06:43That will be discussed later.
06:45The parties will give their positions.
06:48So whichever position the party gives,
06:50the other party will give its position.
06:52Absolutely right.
06:53The starting point has to be decided now.
06:55You are absolutely right.
06:56I just wanted to talk about the Supreme Court's decision.
06:59You are saying that the final authority to decide
07:02is the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
07:04So there is no denial of this.
07:06But the Supreme Court of Pakistan has done something
07:09on which criticism is made.
07:11You can comment on that decision.
07:13It is a public property.
07:14The candidate has three days to participate in any party.
07:19The Supreme Court has made it 15 days.
07:21Then they reversed the clock.
07:23We had heard that the time that had passed would not come back.
07:25But they reversed the clock and showed it.
07:27The clarification that was done in the name of article 51,
07:31that was also a misunderstanding.
07:35They dismissed the appeals of the Sunniyat Council.
07:40But at the same time,
07:42they satisfied the impugn order of the Peshawar High Court.
07:45There were some new things.
07:47Appeals are dismissed and impugn order satisfied.
07:50It was difficult to digest these things.
07:52But the main thing I wanted to talk about
07:54was about him and his party.
07:56Mr. Rohan Fasan.
07:57You can answer first.
07:58I have already commented on that.
08:00No, he wants to answer.
08:01I spoke in response to his question.
08:03Listen, he wants to comment.
08:04I spoke in response to his question.
08:06You can listen.
08:07You can ask questions after that.
08:08Yes, Mr. Choye.
08:09Hassan wants to comment.
08:11No, he has already commented.
08:13You can talk about your party politics later.
08:15You can answer the question on the judgment.
08:18On the judgment, I just wanted to say
08:20that the clock has to be reversed.
08:22Five minutes ago,
08:24when Hassan and the Supreme Court
08:26praised the decision of no confidence,
08:29the Supreme Court did exactly the same.
08:32They said, reverse the clock
08:34and start again from where the no confidence ended.
08:37The Supreme Court has repeated the judgment in that case.
08:40So, you are against that judgment
08:41and we are against that judgment.