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00:00And if I arrived in Milan and they asked me what number I wanted, and I, without thinking about it,
00:07I said 6 if possible, but as soon as I sent the message to my team manager,
00:14I said, wait Laura, here's a problem, you are in Milan, the number 6 jersey is of Franco Baresi,
00:21the great Franco Baresi, and the jersey has been withdrawn,
00:24that is, no surname can be associated with the number 6.
00:29Panic.
00:30I played as an attacker when I was little, I scored a lot of goals, of course,
00:34I scored like 30 in a year.
00:37And the boys there, how did they enjoy it?
00:39Well, I was lucky, because you can see that, since it was a team that was really
00:43well-rounded, I mean, I'm not saying I was one of the strongest, but we were close,
00:49so when I played, they were all happy, so they treated me,
00:52if someone yelled at me from the other kids, they defended me, so...
00:59New episode of Unlocking Room, Amici Rossoneri,
01:02we return with a special guest, Laura Fusetti, welcome.
01:06Hi, thank you very much for this invitation.
01:09First representative of our women's team,
01:12a career that has come to an end, another that has begun,
01:15in short, from the 24-25 season, team manager of the Primavera Femminile team,
01:20tell us a little about this passage, this mix of emotions,
01:23between the two careers in the same world.
01:26Well, certainly I still have to understand it well,
01:29because I certainly didn't fully realize it.
01:32Let's say it was a while ago that I thought the sad moment
01:38for all footballers and players would come,
01:41but I was lucky to have this opportunity from Milan,
01:46from the company that proposed to me to become the team manager of the Primavera.
01:51So, on the one hand, I'm sorry because I've been playing football for 20 years,
01:55but on the other hand, I'm very, very charged and happy
02:00to start a new adventure anyway, but above all to stay in Milan,
02:04which was what I was hoping for.
02:06Fuso, but when and how did the idea of quitting come about?
02:10Because, let's say, you were still doing very well,
02:13you could still do it another couple of years, come on.
02:16So, let's say it's a thought that has come to me at least a year ago.
02:25The level of women's football has increased, the intensity has increased,
02:30but above all there are many young, very strong and promising players.
02:36And on the other hand, there are more and more foreigners
02:39who come and bring a lot of experience
02:44and therefore increase the level of our football even more.
02:48If I have to think with my heart, I think I would have closed my eyes, ears,
02:56anything and I would have fought until the end.
03:00On the other hand, in my opinion, you have to reason, you have to use your head
03:04and understand that maybe it is right to conclude when you are still at a certain level.
03:13So, I didn't want to ruin what I was lucky enough to build
03:17in all the past years.
03:19You talked about young people, there was a strong image,
03:22your transition from A6, which we'll talk about later,
03:25because it's a number that you've only worn here in the last few years,
03:30a few years have passed since the goodbye of Baresi.
03:33Anadine Sorelli, and now I ask you, without putting pressure on her,
03:37because she's still a young girl,
03:39your transition from shirt to young Italian who grow up, how is she?
03:43Well, look, I'm very happy to have given the number 6 shirt to Anadine,
03:51because I think she's an excellent player, she can still improve a lot,
03:57but she reflects a bit what my characteristics were,
04:01she's gritty, she always puts her best, she never gives up, she never gives up.
04:06And so, by now I was fond of the 6,
04:11especially because I had the honor to wear it,
04:14so I said, it will be hard to see it on someone else,
04:18but I'm really happy that she has it,
04:22so I wish her the best and to get rid of a lot of satisfactions.
04:25How did you tell her, how was this idea born,
04:29and her reaction when she discovered this gift from you?
04:33Well, I have no idea, I mean, I don't know if she knew it before that moment,
04:38I had already known about this step for a week,
04:43and I saw her quite excited, I don't know if it was also because she was in front of everyone,
04:48there was also our president Scaroni,
04:51but she kept saying thank you, thank you, she was happy,
04:56and then for her to be in the first team is one of the first successes,
05:03because she has been in the youth sector of Milan for many years,
05:07she was the captain of the Primavera,
05:09which gave us the joy of winning the championship,
05:11so it was already a period full of emotions for her,
05:15it was definitely a further emotion,
05:19and I'm happy for her because I think she deserves it.
05:22Instead, I ask you, no, first I ask you this question,
05:25next to Nadine Sorelli, in the Primavera Scudetto final,
05:28there was another girl, and I saw her,
05:31Pomati maybe?
05:32Yes, yes, she won three Scudetti with Milan,
05:36she won the Under-15 last year, this year the Primavera,
05:41and two years ago the Under-17,
05:43so she won all the Scudetti with Milan,
05:45so let's say that behind your back, as Italians,
05:48we are at our best.
05:49As a defender, that's why I said, I give up,
05:52because I would say that we are well covered with Milan,
05:55she is also very good, very strong,
05:58tactically intelligent,
06:01even at this age it is not yet taken for granted,
06:06and surely she will also get a lot of satisfaction.
06:09She is super young,
06:11so the important thing is that she is calm and does step by step,
06:15even if she is the most brazen of the women's sector, of Milan.
06:19Instead, how did the fact come about that you were the first
06:23to take the 6 after Baresi?
06:25It is true that it was closed only for the first male team,
06:29but because there was no female one,
06:31in the sense that the first female and male teams
06:33are clearly the same level for us,
06:36and so it's okay, in the youth sector
06:38it's not that you can play without a name,
06:40you skip the 6, so there was,
06:42but in the first team, with the name above,
06:44the last one was Franco Baresi.
06:46How did you get this opportunity?
06:48How did you choose the 6?
06:49How did you take this responsibility?
06:51So, I'll spoil you this thing.
06:54First of all, obviously,
06:56I have always played with the 6,
06:59since I was little,
07:01and so for me it was a bit of a reference number,
07:04so much so that even in the national team,
07:06when the 6 was already occupied, I took the 16,
07:08in the sense that the 6 had to be there,
07:10and so I arrived in Milan
07:12and they asked me what number I wanted,
07:14and I, without thinking about it,
07:17I said the 6, if possible,
07:20but as soon as I sent the message to my team manager,
07:24I said, wait Laura, here's a problem,
07:26you're in Milan,
07:28the number 6 jersey belongs to Franco Baresi,
07:31the great Franco Baresi,
07:32and the jersey was withdrawn,
07:34that is, no surname can be associated with the number 6.
07:38I panicked,
07:40then I was told that they had asked for permission,
07:43from Franco Baresi, of course,
07:45rightly so,
07:47and he kindly granted this thing,
07:50so thanks to him I was able to use the number 6 jersey.
07:53The problem was then that one said,
07:55okay, I play with the number 6 jersey in Milan,
07:58it means that all the Milanese fans
08:00now say,
08:02if already one says, let's see how he plays,
08:05he says, let's see,
08:07he even took Baresi's number 6,
08:09let's see how it is.
08:11So I always tried to give even more,
08:14because I knew what the number 6 meant in Milan,
08:17and then I can say,
08:20at the very least,
08:21that I was able to do it,
08:23in the sense that I was able, at least,
08:24to honour that jersey
08:26and not make it disappear.
08:30My curiosity, though,
08:31is if you've ever spoken to Franco directly.
08:34Well, I met him,
08:36let's say that at the beginning
08:38I never allowed myself,
08:40then there was a day
08:43when it was his birthday,
08:46and our press said,
08:48look, do you want Baresi's number?
08:50So you wish him happy birthday,
08:52I said yes, yes, of course, absolutely,
08:54and then from there, let's say,
08:56every year I wished him happy birthday,
08:58then it was he who gave me the shirt
09:00of the 100 appearances,
09:02so every time I saw him,
09:05I certainly didn't stop thanking him,
09:08every time I remembered him,
09:10even by message,
09:12to let me know,
09:13because it's not like you keep in touch.
09:15That of the number 6.
09:16No, I mean, Laura Fusetti,
09:18the girl who plays with,
09:20thanks to you,
09:22I was able to wear the number 6 shirt,
09:24so for me it's an honour,
09:26every year, I think for six years
09:27I found the same jersey.
09:29In fact, that's why I stopped,
09:31because after six years,
09:33if not, it was the 7th or the 8th,
09:35it didn't make sense.
09:36Laura, I have a flash,
09:37let's go a little randomly
09:39in this chat,
09:41in which, under Casa Milan,
09:43it was known that that summer
09:44the female project was starting.
09:46I remember, under Casa Milan,
09:47I don't know if you were on that bus too,
09:49I see a bus from Brescia,
09:51full of girls from Brescia
09:53who come to talk,
09:55because clearly a t-shirt was bought,
09:57were you on that bus?
09:58I wasn't on that bus,
09:59but if it wasn't that day,
10:00it was another one.
10:01I'm on the bus,
10:02like this,
10:03and they say,
10:04ah, but you are the ones
10:05who will come to Milan,
10:06because I read that
10:07you were also on duty.
10:09I was a little scared,
10:10I said, who is this madman?
10:11And then, instead,
10:12for those who don't know,
10:14the title of Brescia was bought,
10:15which had already won a Scudetto,
10:17various Italian Cups,
10:18you come from that team,
10:19a glorious team,
10:20they played all the big ones,
10:21practically the Italian national team
10:22played all in that Brescia,
10:24and I ask you,
10:26how was born the fact
10:28that the year before,
10:30maybe two years before,
10:31Juventus started,
10:32or one, one, one, one.
10:33No, practically,
10:34the last year of Brescia
10:35was the first of Juventus.
10:36Exactly, one year before.
10:38But Brescia already had,
10:39Juventus had already won.
10:41Practically, when I arrived in Brescia,
10:43Brescia for two years
10:44was dismantled.
10:46Exactly, yes.
10:48And there, as it was,
10:49I'll explain it to you right away,
10:50there you are inside,
10:51you hear,
10:52ah, Milan wants to take Brescia,
10:53you imagine that,
10:54calm down, I'm here.
10:55No, actually,
10:56from my side,
10:57I said, well,
10:58we are here,
10:59because I, let's say,
11:00that year,
11:01I decided,
11:02that is, I played at Como,
11:03oh well, yes, Serie A,
11:04but we were always a little bit there,
11:06in the lower parts,
11:08here,
11:09and I said,
11:10I have to try to see
11:11if I really worth something,
11:14because everyone told me,
11:15ah, you, if you played in Brescia,
11:17up and down,
11:18how old were you?
11:20Twenty-six, twenty-five, I think.
11:23And so I said,
11:24let's try.
11:25In the end,
11:26it went well for me,
11:27because anyway,
11:28that year, unfortunately,
11:29we only won the Super Cup.
11:30Mr. Piovani,
11:31let's remember him.
11:32Exactly, yes.
11:33We only won the Super Cup,
11:34but we came to make the draw
11:35with Juve,
11:36which, anyway,
11:37Alpiola di Novara,
11:38I remember.
11:39Exactly, exactly.
11:40And then,
11:41I mean,
11:42I was already very happy,
11:43because, anyway,
11:44I was taking away
11:45my satisfactions.
11:47On the other hand,
11:48Milan arrived,
11:49and I, inside,
11:50I say,
11:52it went well for me,
11:53already that Brescia
11:54called me,
11:55now,
11:56I was so comfortable here,
11:57they had already told me
11:58that they were renewing me,
11:59and now,
12:00if Milan arrives,
12:01it's all to be done again,
12:02I mean,
12:03anyway,
12:04the level,
12:05I mean,
12:06it's a club that...
12:07But there,
12:08I imagine,
12:09the whole dressing room
12:10starts to say,
12:11oh, Milan,
12:12I'm going,
12:13you go,
12:14what are you doing?
12:15Above all,
12:16this arrives in Milan,
12:17what does it mean?
12:18I mean,
12:19concretely,
12:20I mean,
12:21also because,
12:22anyway,
12:23the president wanted
12:24to say it right before him,
12:25so there were a few voices,
12:26so,
12:27we were talking,
12:28let's say,
12:29in groups of two or three,
12:30and it has never been
12:31so blatant,
12:32so blatant,
12:33because,
12:34anyway,
12:35the president wanted
12:36to communicate it first,
12:37him,
12:38and then,
12:39and so on,
12:40so,
12:41maybe,
12:42the market times,
12:43in quotation marks,
12:44have slipped a bit,
12:45and so,
12:46so,
12:47it was,
12:48it was a bit
12:49difficult,
12:50I mean,
12:51difficult.
12:52Then,
12:53anyway,
12:54there were other requests,
12:55because we had...
12:56But everyone was waiting for Milan.
12:57So,
12:58look,
12:59I'm talking to you personally,
13:00I,
13:01I told everyone,
13:02as long as I haven't
13:03talked to Milan,
13:04I don't decide anything,
13:05I mean,
13:06because,
13:07you know,
13:08maybe there were
13:09other teams,
13:10everyone wanted it,
13:11I do it.
13:12As long as
13:13those of Milan
13:14don't call me
13:15to talk,
13:16I don't move.
13:17Fortunately,
13:18in Milan,
13:19so,
13:20I...
13:21Who called you?
13:22Well,
13:23you know there are
13:24the prosecutors,
13:25so,
13:26to me,
13:27directly,
13:28I don't...
13:29You talked to
13:30Casa Milan,
13:31did you come?
13:32Yes,
13:33I talked to
13:34Casa Milan,
13:35and...
13:36How was the emotion
13:37of entering Casa Milan?
13:38Well,
13:39think,
13:40I'm also
13:41close to Milan,
13:42I'm between
13:43Varese and Milan,
13:44practically,
13:45and,
13:46and so,
13:47it was,
13:48it was beautiful.
13:49Then,
13:50Bergamaschi was also
13:51with me,
13:52and,
13:53we came here,
13:54we talked,
13:55and,
13:56also in the interview,
13:57I said,
13:58the sentence that
13:59I will always remember
14:00is this,
14:01he told me,
14:02Milan is not
14:03just a club,
14:04Milan is a family.
14:05And so,
14:06then,
14:07from there...
14:08But I ask you,
14:09women's football,
14:10especially,
14:11I'm talking about
14:1210 years ago,
14:13right?
14:14Even if
14:15a little less.
14:16Was Milan always
14:17a family?
14:18Or not?
14:19I mean,
14:20you know,
14:21where maybe
14:22there are not
14:23great economic possibilities.
14:24That,
14:25that,
14:26certainly,
14:27because,
14:28anyway,
14:29I mean,
14:30in the end,
14:31I played most of
14:32my years,
14:33and it was really
14:34like going to
14:35a second home,
14:36because,
14:37I mean,
14:38I lived there,
14:39I knew everyone,
14:40even maybe
14:41with the management,
14:42I made that joke,
14:43that,
14:44anyway,
14:45now I would know
14:46something about it.
14:47Exactly,
14:48now I have to,
14:49I'm on the other side.
14:50A nanny.
14:51No,
14:52but Galari,
14:53no,
14:54there is no longer
14:55a nanny.
14:56When I was young,
14:57there was a nanny,
14:58and I suffered from it.
14:59Now that I'm old,
15:00you suffer from young people.
15:01There is no longer
15:02a nanny,
15:03so I'm screwed,
15:04basically.
15:05And so,
15:06certainly,
15:07for me,
15:08I have been,
15:09in the teams
15:10where I played,
15:11there have been
15:12many years,
15:13because,
15:14certainly,
15:15when you go
15:16to a company like Milan,
15:17you expect
15:18that there are
15:19certain dynamics,
15:20so everything changes a bit,
15:21but rightly so.
15:22And so,
15:23to hear you say
15:24that sentence,
15:25I mean,
15:26you say,
15:27ah,
15:28so here it's not just,
15:29I mean,
15:30there is also something else,
15:31anyway,
15:32the human aspect
15:33remains important,
15:34because,
15:35you know,
15:36it's easy to say,
15:37I don't know,
15:38you come to this company,
15:39you are a number,
15:40because it's as if
15:41it were a company,
15:42which we would miss,
15:43but even in these six years,
15:44anyway,
15:45that I lived here in Milan,
15:46it's true,
15:47because,
15:48I mean,
15:49in the end,
15:50you know everyone,
15:51I mean,
15:52there is really
15:53that sense of belonging,
15:54so,
15:55it was nice to see
15:56that even in such
15:57an important company,
15:58anyway,
15:59you can feel at home.
16:00Let's take a step back,
16:01no,
16:02because Patri Baresi
16:03helps us reconnect
16:04to your childhood.
16:05Tell us a little
16:06about the beginnings,
16:07that is,
16:08how you played,
16:09where the passion
16:10for football was born,
16:11the first seasons.
16:12Well,
16:13I started playing football
16:14practically because
16:15my mother kicked me out
16:16of the house
16:17on Sunday morning
16:18and my dad went
16:19to play,
16:20he was still playing
16:21at the amateur level
16:22and so I...
16:23Where, where?
16:24Eh,
16:25area,
16:26province of,
16:27of Varese
16:28and so,
16:29nothing,
16:30I in the morning,
16:31on Sunday morning
16:32I went out
16:33with my dad
16:34and nothing,
16:35there was a certain,
16:36the time they change
16:37before,
16:38the time they change
16:39after,
16:40I was there
16:41and I started
16:42playing football
16:43and then
16:44my dad's friends
16:45were there,
16:46they passed me the ball
16:47and so from there
16:48my curiosity
16:49started.
16:50Five or six years?
16:51Eh,
16:52yes,
16:53six or seven maybe
16:54and nothing,
16:55there I went
16:56to my dad
16:57and I said,
16:58dad,
16:59but we can't
17:00go to the oratory,
17:01at the oratory
17:02near my house
17:03there was this team
17:04and obviously
17:05of men
17:06because at the time
17:07it was called
17:08Carcor
17:09and C
17:10I don't know
17:11what the initials are
17:12and
17:13nothing,
17:14it was just
17:15the oratory,
17:16very quiet
17:17and
17:18You were already playing
17:19in defence right away
17:20or how do they put you?
17:21In the middle of the pitch?
17:22No,
17:23I played as an attacker
17:24as a kid,
17:25I scored a lot of goals
17:26of course,
17:27one year
17:28I scored like 30
17:29And the men
17:30there,
17:31how did they play?
17:32So,
17:33I was lucky
17:34because you can see
17:35that since it was
17:36a team
17:37that was really
17:38the strongest
17:39but
17:40we lacked a little
17:41so when I played
17:42they were all happy
17:43so they treated me
17:44if someone
17:45yelled at me
17:46about other kids
17:47they defended me
17:48so I
17:49Did you have companions
17:50or were they all men?
17:51No,
17:52all men
17:53only
17:54the first time
17:55maybe there was
17:56a girl
17:57but poor
17:58I mean
17:59let's say
18:00football
18:01wasn't her sport
18:02so then
18:03she abandoned
18:04also because
18:05the men
18:06sometimes
18:07they were
18:08very aggressive
18:09so
18:10they didn't
18:11like me
18:12and
18:13they weren't
18:14happy
18:15so
18:16I
18:17didn't
18:18want to
18:19be a
18:20man
18:21so
18:22I
18:23had to
18:24be a
18:25woman
18:26so
18:27so
18:28I
18:29was a
18:30woman
18:31so
18:32so
18:33too
18:34I was
18:35a woman
18:36I went to Tradate, I was lucky enough to have a team 20 minutes away from home
18:43that played in Serie A2 at the time, which would be a bit like Bidia now.
18:48So I was 13-14 years old, I waited for the 14th year of age,
18:53and from there I started playing in the first team.
18:56So then I played on Saturday with Primavera, because I played with those of my age,
19:00and on Sunday I went with...
19:02How did the veterans treat you? I imagine a 14-year-old girl with 30 years...
19:07There were people, yes, even more than 30 years old, because then once,
19:11maybe you had many more, then we were few, so those who were there, you kept them.
19:15So I was very lucky, I was very lucky because everyone helped me.
19:20So my first coach was quite strict, but...
19:24Was she famous or not?
19:26Her name is Maria Mariotti, she played for the national team at the time,
19:32so she also played with Morace, so at the time she was famous.
19:38She was very strict, but then I think she did it because she saw something in me
19:44and so she wanted to help me.
19:46Then when we won the European Championship in 2008,
19:51she came to the airport with my other relatives, my mom, my dad and all my friends
19:57to say hello to me, that I was back.
20:00So then, with the sound of the Poi, I understood that...
20:03So no, I did it from 14 to 18, 19 years there in Tradate.
20:09Then from Tradate I went to Como and there I did two years of B,
20:14then we went up and we always did the A.
20:17And even in Como I stayed nine years, practically.
20:20You're someone who never betrays.
20:22No, exactly.
20:23And at the beginning of Como, did you understand that it could become a very serious thing?
20:29So, actually I had to wait until Brescia, because...
20:35You realize that even if we were in Serie A, we trained three days a week,
20:41in the evening because...
20:42Times have changed.
20:43Yes, yes, in the evening because everyone was working, so...
20:46So three days a week...
20:48It's a dream now that you train five days a week.
20:50No, three days a week...
20:51Yes, but now it's madness.
20:53It's like a second category.
20:55Exactly, practically yes.
20:56Maybe now in Excellenza they will train three times a week.
20:59What else? Now in Excellenza? Four at least.
21:02Yes, in my opinion someone who puts the fourth day in Excellenza.
21:04Yes, no, no, but in fact, every now and then, I'm kidding,
21:07I was in Serie A, three workouts.
21:10So there, let's say I kept doing it,
21:15first of all because my parents allowed me to.
21:18Until I had the license, they were pushing me back and forth.
21:21Anyway, the kilometers were many, and in winter when it was cold...
21:25Did you study at that time?
21:26Yes, I studied, because obviously my parents always told me,
21:29okay, play football, you like it, we'll do whatever you want,
21:33but you have to study, you have to...
21:35So I did a scientific high school and then a linguistics course,
21:39and then I went to university and I graduated in science and technology,
21:44in restoration.
21:46Ah!
21:47Yes, so much so that I...
21:50But is it a second career, let's say, a passion that you continued?
21:54So, the truth is that I've always liked to eat.
21:57So first you have to cook.
21:59So you have to understand a little how the production chains work.
22:03No, referring to your question, when I started to understand
22:07that I could really believe it,
22:11the last year of high school I was auditioning for the thesis of my degree,
22:18and it was in a company that worked in the food sector,
22:25which supplied appliances and everything,
22:29and if they had given me a contract, a job,
22:37I don't know if I would be here today,
22:40because I was already 25, 25 years old,
22:45I don't know if in front of me...
22:47In front of a fridge or an attaché.
22:49I get it, I don't know what I would have chosen,
22:51but there was no opportunity for the various problems
22:55that this company had,
22:57and so I said, you know what?
22:59Let's give it a try, let's go to Brescia and see
23:02if I'm really able to stay in this world,
23:05we'll see.
23:07Were you already training every day in Brescia?
23:10Yes, yes, in Brescia.
23:11Always in the evening?
23:12No, in the afternoon.
23:13Because your colleagues weren't working anymore?
23:15No, no, they weren't working in Brescia,
23:17but I repeat, in those years, in Serie A,
23:19there were many other teams,
23:21but people were still...
23:22But in those years in Brescia, maybe without making numbers,
23:25now there is the professionalism, there are the minimums, etc.,
23:27but how much could the salaries go?
23:29I mean, I guess, being directors,
23:31there was the 17th, 18th, 20th, even zero, I guess.
23:34In my opinion, there were people who...
23:38a normal salary, in my opinion, was enough,
23:41then who more, who less, maybe who arrived,
23:43I don't know, to say it like me,
23:45it was a little less, but I mean,
23:47from then on, I mean, in Brescia,
23:49they gave us the house,
23:51but there, I mean, I never asked for anything from mine,
23:54because I still had...
23:55Did you train in Rigamonti?
23:56Yes.
23:57And did you always play there?
23:59No, we trained at Club Azul in Rigamonti,
24:02we only played the Champions League.
24:04Ah, ok.
24:05Yes.
24:06And so, I mean, from then on,
24:08but already in the last years in Como,
24:10anyway, as a kind of income-expense,
24:12they gave you something.
24:13It's not comparable to what you have now,
24:16but, I mean...
24:17But then, a little bit this, the first money,
24:20let's say, but above all, the change of schedule,
24:22I mean, a life that puts football as your first job.
24:26Yes, exactly, yes, absolutely.
24:28As a priority, as a maximum concentration.
24:30Yes, in the end, I practically played most of my years
24:34where it was a break,
24:36I mean, you did everything you had to do during the day,
24:38school, study, and all the rest,
24:40and then you went to the field, but to take a break,
24:42I mean, it was like, it was just fun and that's it.
24:45Then also in Brescia, instead, there, no, I mean,
24:48you trained in the afternoon, you had to be...
24:51I mean, everything was focused on football anyway,
24:54so from there I started to see it as a job, that's it.
24:58But when did you become a defender?
25:00So, I became a defender...
25:02So, I was in Como,
25:04first I was a midfielder,
25:06I did two or three years as a midfielder,
25:08then, since already...
25:09In Como, as a midfielder?
25:10Yes, no, in Tradate, I did the third, the outside,
25:14the outside forward, midfielder, everything.
25:17I see Fusetti on the belt dribbling.
25:20Look, maybe because the speed was a bit reduced,
25:24but I was going, I mean, I was young and I was going.
25:27And then there was a year,
25:29since I said earlier that we were few,
25:31so all those who were there were doing well,
25:33we found ourselves without a central defender.
25:36They look at me and say,
25:37Laura, would you like to be a central defender?
25:39At first I said, why?
25:42Because it's fun.
25:43No, more than anything, the midfielder is a bit the heart of everything,
25:47you know, you defend, you attack, you score.
25:49But I said, okay, if there's a need, I'll do it.
25:52At the end of the fair, I had a lot of fun,
25:54because in the end, it's true that you don't attack and you don't score,
25:58unless you go up on the field like that.
26:01But if you stop the attacker who's just going under,
26:06good night.
26:08He's going to the goal.
26:10Exactly, he's going to the goal.
26:12In any case, its effect does it.
26:14In fact, from there, I was happy with the choice.
26:18Then, anyway, I cared about playing.
26:20Listen, but, in fact, this speech,
26:22before you played for fun, you played for fun, etc.
26:24So even the game, for the love of God,
26:26there was a lot of commitment in the world,
26:28but it was a moment like no other.
26:30When you then arrived in Brescia,
26:32it started to become a very serious thing.
26:34How did you live the games?
26:36That is, you had managers who paid you,
26:38you had teammates who lived it like a job,
26:41you who started doing it.
26:43How did you do this mental step of,
26:45ah, now it's no longer just a fun game.
26:47If I lose...
26:49Sure.
26:51So, the truth is that I've always played football
26:55and I was more committed to anything else.
26:59I mean, if maybe someone says,
27:01study is important, etc., etc.
27:03I've always said I did,
27:05I played football as if it were my job,
27:08even if it wasn't at all.
27:11The thing I noticed when I went to Brescia,
27:15it was before the games,
27:17at the beginning I happened to be there
27:19and I thought,
27:21yes, but they are paying you.
27:23If you play a bad game...
27:27I mean, at the beginning,
27:29I think I was struggling,
27:31I felt like it was my fault,
27:33to say, they pay me,
27:35maybe I'm doing it wrong.
27:37Then, of course,
27:39you also have to realize
27:41that in the end,
27:43football,
27:45you can play a game
27:47and maybe you can make a mistake,
27:49it happens to everyone.
27:51The important thing is to be serious,
27:53professional,
27:55because even if we have become
27:57professionals for only two years,
27:59I think that we footballers
28:01have been doing it for a while,
28:05as if it were a job.
28:07So, this change was definitely easy,
28:11except when you say,
28:13they pay me,
28:15if I do something wrong,
28:17they tell me,
28:19they are right,
28:21you can't even tell them anything.
28:23In Como, where did you play,
28:25where did you train,
28:27how was it?
28:29So, in Como,
28:31let's say we were a bit wrong,
28:33in the sense that at the beginning
28:35we played at the Belvedere,
28:37which was right near the center of Como,
28:39then we moved to Ponte Lambro,
28:41which was a bit far,
28:43so let's say
28:45I never had the honor
28:47to play at Senigallia,
28:49but...
28:51You didn't play at Senigallia,
28:53you played at San Siro.
28:55You lost, 1-0.
28:57How was the emotion there?
28:59Beautiful,
29:01obviously there was COVID,
29:03so there were a maximum of 1000 people,
29:05but maybe it's better,
29:07because how can you fill San Siro?
29:09It was beautiful,
29:11everything was huge,
29:13and you,
29:15tiny inside,
29:17so it was really beautiful,
29:19also the changing rooms,
29:21we went the day before
29:23to see the field,
29:25spectacular, with all the lights
29:27that took care of the field,
29:29to make it wonderful,
29:31and that will remain
29:33one of the most beautiful memories.
29:35I have a question about this,
29:37you went to the stadium,
29:39beautiful, maybe from abroad,
29:41you played in the Champions League,
29:43or with the national team,
29:45an incredible structure,
29:47or on the contrary,
29:49a field that helps you,
29:51maybe even for the weather,
29:53in the wind,
29:55there was snow,
29:57there was rain,
29:59I remember
30:01that I came out
30:03full of mud,
30:05it was one of those sports centers
30:07that you entered and made the sign of the cross,
30:09because you didn't know,
30:11they were really,
30:13not old,
30:15cold showers,
30:17we don't talk about it,
30:19it happened often
30:21that you had to stay there for half an hour
30:23waiting for the boiler to start again,
30:25and the fields,
30:27bad fields,
30:29I start, Bari,
30:31Bari, but there were
30:33many, especially...
30:35San Zaccaria.
30:37San Zaccaria, that too.
30:39With Linda there?
30:41Yes, yes,
30:43I also played against Linda,
30:45a character,
30:47and there really,
30:49if you struggle to say
30:51pass or not pass,
30:53you enter the field and say
30:55if the first pass goes well,
30:57everything is fine,
30:59if the first pass goes well,
31:01we have the ball with the rabbit,
31:03because there were all the bulls,
31:05instead beautiful fields,
31:07but look, I remember the first game
31:09we played at the Bismara,
31:11it was wonderful,
31:13a field like that,
31:15I was not at all
31:17used to it,
31:19then obviously when you go abroad
31:21you see how they take care
31:23of any kind of field,
31:25I remember when we went to play
31:27against Ajax in the Champions League,
31:29there was the field,
31:31there was the stadium
31:33for the youth sector,
31:35next to the stadium
31:37of the male Ajax,
31:39but it had at least 5 or 6 fields,
31:41all combed.
31:43I ask you a question,
31:45because the structures are important,
31:47I ask you, in your opinion,
31:49the last season Fiorentina returned
31:51to the Champions League,
31:53with an incredible season,
31:55and I don't think it's a coincidence
31:57that all the structures,
31:59that is, the two things go hand in hand,
32:01I think, or do you say,
32:03no, she did her season,
32:05even if she didn't have a nice gym,
32:07how do you see it,
32:09infrastructures and results on the field,
32:11in the evolution of women's football in general?
32:13So, definitely,
32:15having structures
32:17equipped with everything
32:19and more, gyms,
32:21anyway Viola Park,
32:23I think it was a crazy investment,
32:25because we went there to play,
32:27it's really beautiful,
32:29there is a green area,
32:31an infinity of fields,
32:33there is everything,
32:35if you need something,
32:37there it is,
32:39so that certainly encourages you
32:41and makes you want to train
32:43even when it rains.
32:45On the other hand,
32:47I tell you,
32:49definitely having structures helps,
32:51and it has also been seen
32:53I mean, unfortunately,
32:55you had to go there on the weekend
32:57because there was no one
32:59and there was the gym of the village,
33:01but on the other hand,
33:03I think it doesn't matter,
33:05I mean,
33:07nowadays
33:09everyone is equipped
33:11and has everything,
33:13so definitely
33:15that will have been
33:17something more,
33:19but I think that goes a little beyond.
33:21I have two questions,
33:23the first you said,
33:25the gym did not exist,
33:27the gym structure or also
33:29the concept of gym
33:31within training?
33:33How much did you dedicate
33:35to the physical part
33:37and how much to the field,
33:39to the ball, etc.?
33:41Now I will reveal a great secret,
33:43I hate, I hate going to the gym,
33:45I hate it with all myself.
33:47So you look for books in the folder
33:49I mean, the athletic people
33:51know very well
33:53that I don't like it,
33:55but I do everything,
33:57probably also because
33:59I was not used to it,
34:01I mean, once the strength
34:03we did was the jumps,
34:05the climbs with maybe
34:07the weights on the ankles,
34:09then the steps,
34:11the steps of the stadiums,
34:13so surely you tried to do something,
34:15but obviously you didn't have
34:17But do you envy more
34:19for the fact that now
34:21the championship rises in level,
34:23the stadiums are all more beautiful,
34:25there is Viola Park, there is Juventus,
34:27there are all the situations,
34:29there is the Champions League, the spectators,
34:31we also saw in the Champions League
34:33all the new Zagorito Camps here and there,
34:35or are you grateful for the fact
34:37that you managed to do your passion
34:39a job?
34:41Or still, I add the third,
34:43luckily at 15 years
34:45I didn't have to go to the gym.
34:47So let's start from there,
34:49no, apart from the jokes,
34:51the other day I made this joke
34:53to my athletic coach, I said,
34:55thank goodness that when I was young
34:57there was no physical part to do like this,
34:59no, no, I told him, I ran once
35:01the day of the field, everyone was fine,
35:03so no, I
35:05absolutely have no envy,
35:07I am happy because it means that
35:09what was done by us
35:11then led to what,
35:13thanks also to the help of the men's clubs
35:15is now seen in women's football.
35:17It is certainly beautiful to see the stadiums
35:19full, even a women's game,
35:21because many times my mother came to see us,
35:23my father, my brother
35:25if it happened.
35:27The brother says, oh, 5 euros paid.
35:29Exactly, exactly, so
35:31then I
35:33think I was really
35:35lucky
35:37because I believed so much
35:39in football, but
35:41I never hoped so much,
35:43I mean, if I
35:45went back now,
35:47I mean,
35:49I don't know, I think I was
35:51really lucky because
35:53I don't know how many people
35:55can say they have realized a dream,
35:57for me, I always played football
35:59and I hoped to continue,
36:01a while later I hoped not to
36:03finish university so I didn't have to go to work
36:05so I went on to play football
36:07because I knew that sooner or later
36:09it would be over, I mean,
36:11there was the day when you had to say,
36:13but there is the evolution of football
36:15that is growing
36:17on the women's side,
36:19but compared to Europe
36:21it is still behind, right?
36:23And then I tell you, tomorrow you are at the head of the federation,
36:25it is clear that the federation
36:27is working well, it is clear that
36:29we don't have the magic wand,
36:31Laura Fusetti, with your experience,
36:33who has seen it, who knows, who knows
36:35and has a vision of what
36:37could happen, what would you do
36:39to improve women's football?
36:41Well, let's say that
36:43as you said, what
36:45can be done, they are doing it,
36:47we definitely need even more
36:49visibility, especially to
36:51involve many more
36:53people, especially the sponsors
36:55because it is true that
36:57one is passionate about everything but
36:59objectively
37:01there is also a need, it is bad to say
37:03but of money because
37:05what do you invest if there is nothing to invest?
37:07So definitely
37:09the sponsors are needed
37:11a lot, there are many
37:13young people who want to play football
37:15so you have to give as much
37:17visibility as possible. On the other hand
37:19I tell you, it is true that the work
37:21must be done from above but
37:23it is also up to us,
37:25or rather from now on
37:27from my ex-teammates
37:29to do our best
37:31always because
37:33now even more it is a job
37:35that is, you have to be
37:37professional both on and off the pitch
37:39so if you want
37:41pointed reflectors you also have to know how to manage them
37:43so definitely
37:45I don't know if maybe
37:47I would also think of training
37:49young footballers right from the start
37:51under this aspect because if you
37:53don't know how to sell the product
37:55then no one
37:57buys it and certainly abroad
37:59this mentality has already been
38:01light years ago
38:03they did it
38:05in America then we don't talk about it
38:07there everything is a show even when we went
38:09last year in America
38:11you saw the stadium
38:13wonderful stadium
38:15there they set everything
38:17as if it were a show
38:19so people come to see
38:21I saw that you said the first time
38:23I played at Wismar it was perfect, incredible
38:25because you played at Wismar but not on the main field
38:27right? No. So it's the first time
38:29you set foot on that field? Yes, absolutely
38:31we trained there
38:33now I don't remember
38:35exactly, there are a lot
38:37we had our field but
38:39then the pitch
38:41it was up to us and
38:43the spring. Tell us
38:45your day
38:47the last years of your career
38:49ok
38:51any day of the season
38:53yours because you are you
38:55but the point is
38:57how do you
38:59divide it?
39:01we train
39:03every morning
39:05so morning, wake up
39:07breakfast then you go to the pitch
39:09what do you eat for breakfast?
39:11what did I want to eat
39:13or what did I have to eat?
39:15you left the cappuccino with brioche
39:17now I will take them back
39:19I can't wait for the cappuccino with brioche
39:21obviously you have to have a balanced breakfast
39:23because then you have to go to the pitch
39:25you have to train
39:27so you have to eat
39:29otherwise you can't even
39:31perform
39:33also because you go to the pitch
39:35there is the activation part
39:37or maybe physiotherapy if you need it
39:39do you eat salty food?
39:41I don't particularly love salty food
39:43but in the last years
39:45I am convinced because it is hunger
39:47so maybe you know
39:49toasts, things like that
39:51also with the fact that every now and then we played
39:53so before the game
39:55if you don't eat
39:57something substantial
39:59you crash
40:01so you do those
40:03three hours counting
40:05activation and then discharge
40:07and then we all went
40:09to eat
40:11and then in the afternoon
40:13everyone is free to do what they want
40:15in the last two years
40:17actually almost three
40:19in the afternoon when I could
40:21I used to go to my niece
40:23and then for a year
40:25my nephew
40:27then maybe there are
40:29various events to participate in
40:31but let's say that
40:33until two or three
40:35you are busy
40:37then you have enough freedom
40:39I come to the question before
40:41advice to young footballers
40:43let me explain
40:45once at 14 years old
40:47many were already playing in the first team
40:49let's say at 14
40:5115, 16 years old
40:53you were in the starting team
40:55now there is
40:57under-15, under-16, under-17, under-19
40:59and then
41:01you go on loan
41:03or you go to play
41:05the funnel is always tighter
41:07what advice do you give?
41:11then once the A2
41:13the B series
41:15there were no foreigners
41:17the first time I saw a foreigner
41:19was in Brescia, so six years ago
41:21so there was less competition
41:23now it is much more difficult
41:25certainly
41:27also in this regard
41:29we have come closer to what is
41:31the male because in any case
41:33in the male youth sectors
41:35there are few who then have the fortune
41:37to play in the team
41:39where they grew up
41:41so that's definitely
41:43the most difficult part
41:45there are many positive things
41:47then there are those that
41:49obviously we had more
41:51ease to show up
41:53to play because once they needed numbers
41:55so that you were big, small
41:57who cares, just play
41:59now for a young
42:01it's hard to show up
42:03but on the other hand
42:05they have a great fortune
42:07which is to have
42:09everything they need to grow
42:11in the best way
42:13the important thing is that it is always taken
42:15as a fun, especially when
42:17you are young, without the pressure
42:19to say I have to get there, I have to do it
42:21because otherwise
42:23if you live it like that, in my opinion you live it badly
42:25and in the end the results
42:27you don't even get them
42:29so I think
42:31that if one puts the commitment, the sacrifice
42:33then
42:35if it really counts
42:37sooner or later anyway, maybe it takes a little more
42:39time, that certainly comes
42:41We always try to get
42:43to the locker room inside the dressing room
42:45so I ask you, without making names
42:47years in which you played, so season
42:49don't say anything
42:51name of the coach, but tell us
42:53an absurd thing, a speech
42:55that you say, but what happened
42:57or an anecdote that you stayed
42:59you say, but what is this stuff
43:01that you can tell us without
43:03say when, where, that is, it could be
43:05from the wrists
43:07to the elbow
43:09Look, look, many years have passed
43:11but I think I'll always remember it
43:13it was a game where we had to
43:15win, I mean, but with low hands
43:17at the end of the first half
43:19I was also
43:21quite small
43:23at the end of the first half we lost
43:251-0
43:27believe me, I was
43:29scared because
43:31who trained us
43:33that year
43:35started to destroy
43:37the whole dressing room, football
43:39a thing... Did you play?
43:41Yes, yes, yes, no, look
43:43terrified, because then
43:45I was small, you know, so I don't know
43:47if I would have been 16 years old
43:49And there it changed, like all the players
43:51three changes, there were all of them
43:53Someone took it and changed it
43:55immediately, that is
43:57insulted it and then said enough
43:59sit down, then I don't remember
44:01I don't even remember how the game ended
44:03because I mean, I remember
44:05Yes, and instead in recent years
44:07there are
44:09more than anything funny anecdotes
44:11especially with Linda
44:13when Linda was there
44:15Sabatino Tuccieri was an important couple
44:17I was about to say Dani and Linda
44:19were
44:21let's say that extra one
44:23you know when the air is a bit heavy
44:25they always found the joke
44:27the right joke
44:29But why didn't you call Sabatino
44:31Ciabattino instead?
44:33So, the truth
44:35is that Dani
44:37for me is one of the
44:39strongest forwards
44:41still now
44:43I never stop
44:45because he still shows
44:47that she always scores
44:49so absolutely
44:51for me it was an honor to play with her
44:53but from the years
44:55that were
44:57practically they took her around
44:59for how she kicked, because she didn't
45:01kick perfectly
45:03so from there Ciabattino
45:05the truth is that
45:07whether she kicked well or badly
45:09she always scored
45:11so in the end she said
45:13yes, say what you think
45:15Linda was
45:17very nice
45:19so I guess she
45:21made some jokes
45:23for sure
45:25She made so many
45:27that I don't remember
45:29when you couldn't
45:31maybe in preparation
45:33they make you run, they make you go up
45:35and you go here and there
45:37she said exactly that thing
45:39that maybe said by someone else
45:41they told you what you were saying
45:43you even got in trouble
45:45she said it with that humor
45:47nothing, people laughed
45:49because what did you have to do?
45:51she laughed and so she was
45:53stamping everything
45:55in fact that's a bit missing
45:57I had a hot head
45:59but we made a lot of jokes
46:01One last question
46:03then we close with a couple of quick games
46:05before you were talking about grandmotherhood
46:07it was there, now it's not there anymore
46:09was there a reason?
46:11as you experienced it
46:13and why it's not there anymore?
46:15because you veterans don't do it anymore
46:17because young people have a different approach
46:19when they enter a dressing room like this
46:21I'm talking about grandmotherhood
46:23in the sense that I remember
46:25the Chinese at the end of the training
46:27the ball at the end of the training
46:29if we had to go and get something
46:31we young people had to do it
46:33and so with the years
46:35I don't know, I think I stayed young forever
46:37because even now
46:39I pick up the balls and everything
46:41but
46:43then
46:45in my case it was really
46:47quiet, in the sense of going and getting
46:49maybe the Chinese and everything
46:51but there were stories about
46:53when I was young I came to the first team
46:55and they hid things
46:57things a little more
46:59tough, which now
47:01absolutely, when I talk about grandmotherhood
47:03I don't talk about that because I think
47:05maybe it's a good thing that it's not there anymore
47:07it's the only thing
47:09that now maybe one says
47:11oh well, if I have to
47:13throw things on the field, do I have to do it?
47:15I mean, I'm 33 years old
47:17the young people
47:19don't worry, they take it, they go and do
47:21things, they don't even think about it
47:23so on the one hand
47:25then you think
47:27you suffered it
47:29in quotes, it wasn't nice
47:31why make them relive it
47:33so absolutely I think
47:35the fact that it's not there anymore is a good thing
47:37on the other hand
47:39I hope that
47:41young people always have respect
47:43towards the older ones
47:45and with more experience
47:47but more than anything because they can learn a lot from them
47:49so maybe even that extra advice
47:51that they don't see it as
47:53a judgment
47:55but yes
47:57You know this game, right?
47:59Let's say 10 names and you have to put them
48:01from the strongest to the least
48:03strong, they're all very strong
48:05obviously you don't know the order, so at the end
48:07you'll find yourself with one that you put aside
48:09Wait, so I put here
48:11the ones that I think are the least strong
48:13Exactly, from Maradona
48:15to down
48:17Ok, let's start
48:19we're talking about the strongest female players
48:21in Italian football
48:23obviously there aren't all of them because there are a lot
48:25for example Giuliano
48:27we didn't put him but he should be there
48:29it's a game, the first one is
48:31Sara Gama
48:33You don't know what's next
48:35Fazzini
48:37Second place
48:39Carolina Morace
48:41Eh
48:43I aimed too high from the start
48:45It's a challenge but I'll put it
48:47Let's put it here
48:49First place
48:51Laura Giuliani
48:53You never know
48:55Laura Giuliani
48:59This is a question
49:03A goalkeeper among the players
49:05is a bit more difficult to put
49:07I understand
49:11How many are there?
49:13No
49:15Come on, I'll put it here
49:17The goalkeeper was a great excuse
49:19to put her in fourth
49:21There's the save
49:23Panico
49:29Who will end up there?
49:31Third place
49:33Bartoli
49:37Come on, I can't know
49:39who's next
49:41For me she's very strong
49:43Let's put it here
49:45Third place
49:47Jacinti
49:49Eh
49:53Let's put it in fourth
49:55Let's put the G's in the bottom
49:57Sabatino
50:03Third place
50:05You struggled in third place
50:07I saw you
50:09One second to go
50:11Girelli
50:13What did we say?
50:15The G's go in the bottom?
50:17How do you know?
50:19Politichiesi
50:21I put this one because it's new
50:23Dragoni
50:25Fourth place
50:27Gota
50:29And the last one, Gabbiadini
50:31There you go
50:33Except for the G in the last place
50:35They are
50:37They are history
50:39Cards, random
50:41Any questions?
50:43Pick two
50:45A couple
50:51No, I want this one
50:55Should I spin?
50:57One at a time?
50:59Which historical figure
51:01would you like to chat with?
51:03Sabatino?
51:05Historical figure
51:07but also sports
51:09Anyone
51:13I'd say Franco Baresi
51:15but I was lucky
51:17to continue
51:19chatting with him
51:21because I think
51:23he's a great footballer
51:25and a great man
51:27so he gave a lot to Milan
51:29and I think it would be nice
51:31and it would help me
51:34Next
51:38What's the most important thing
51:40for you in friendship?
51:42Well, since I'm a person
51:44who doesn't trust
51:46people
51:48the people I consider
51:50my friends
51:52it's because I have a blind trust
51:54full trust in them
51:56so definitely trust
51:58Well, you came to this podcast
52:00with little trust
52:02You came
52:04and you gave us some
52:06Ok, let's finish with this
52:08happy ending
52:10for all our guests
52:12it's about
52:14directing you
52:16towards happiness
52:18with the magic lamp
52:20so rub it
52:22and make three wishes
52:24Ok
52:28You can make three wishes
52:32My first wish
52:36even if maybe
52:38I won't be able to participate actively
52:40I'd like to see
52:42the Milan
52:44women's team
52:46win a trophy
52:48since we didn't do it in six years
52:50So this is the first
52:52It's the first year
52:54you don't know you're going to win
52:56No, well
52:58I'm already
53:00champion of Italy
53:02with my first win
53:04So
53:06my second wish
53:12Well, definitely
53:14to get rid of my satisfactions
53:16in these new clothes
53:18and being in Milan
53:20is important
53:22for me
53:24and it's beautiful
53:26so I hope to be able to do it
53:28in the best way
53:30and then
53:32to get rid of my satisfactions
53:36The third one
53:38The third one
53:42I don't know if it's a wish anymore
53:44but since I know
53:46my fans gave a lot for me
53:48and for me to go forward
53:50in my dream
53:52I hope
53:54for them
53:56to be happy
53:58about all of this
54:00and that they can continue to be
54:02and obviously
54:04to make them proud of me
54:06even in the future
54:08because I think if I got this far
54:10it's thanks to them
54:12so I wish them the best