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Pakistan Main Sab Kuch institutions kay Hawalay Kiya Jaraha Hai? khurram Dastgir's Statement
Pakistan Main Sab Kuch institutions kay Hawalay Kiya Jaraha Hai? khurram Dastgir's Statement
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00:00Mr. Khurram, you are talking about the issue of parliamentary democracy,
00:03but here the question is on democracy itself.
00:06The question is on the health of this democracy.
00:09Along with the question on your status,
00:12you are taking such steps more seriously.
00:15Recently, Mr. Shabaz Sharif had declared the vetting of the agencies
00:18necessary for the appointment of bureaucrats.
00:21And you know very well, sometimes the reports are made wrong,
00:24they are made on purpose, they are also politically guided.
00:27This was in the personal knowledge of the Chief Justice,
00:30of which I am a personal witness,
00:33that the reports of a few judges were not properly provided to them.
00:36It was said that these gentlemen are not fit to be a judge.
00:39And the Chief Justice called them to make reports again
00:42and said that these gentlemen are not right.
00:45And then they came back as right again.
00:48So the problem is, sir, you are handing over all the powers yourself.
00:51Where is your democratic credibility today?
00:54This is a challenge for us.
00:57And now, because we are so busy in emergencies,
01:00because first of all we have to take care of the financial economy of Pakistan,
01:03there is a challenge of terrorism.
01:06But if there is any challenge other than this,
01:09then it is a major challenge for all of us.
01:12That we have to show the capability of the state of Pakistan
01:15to work, to be able to work.
01:18We have to show the capability of the state of Pakistan
01:21to work, to deliver.
01:24Because the civilian side,
01:27there is always firefighting,
01:30the improvement of the capacity of the civilian agencies
01:33is always lacking,
01:36is always lacking.
01:39So in the coming months and years,
01:42if Allah Almighty does good,
01:45and Shabbah Sharif continues his hard work,
01:48that if some economic work comes in,
01:51then the next step is this,
01:54that we tell all these other agencies
01:57to do their reporting.
02:00The capacity in the civilian government
02:03has to be developed
02:06so that they can do all this work themselves
02:09and can give their opinion about this matter
02:12which is going to be decided in the next few months.
02:15But this is still a little far.
02:18Right now, our civilian agencies
02:21have a lack of capacity,
02:24a lack of resources.
02:27And the military agencies,
02:30which the Pakistani nation has traditionally provided more resources,
02:33they have developed a capacity.
02:36But this is a temporary phase,
02:39I expect.
02:42This capacity will be developed by the civilian government.
02:45Sir, the issue of capacity will come later.
02:48From the beginning, it is the issue of safeguards that have not been implemented yet.
02:51It is the issue of that meeting that has not yet taken place in the parliament.
02:54It is the issue of that consultation on which you have not yet started.
02:57It is the issue of that transparency that has not yet been made.
03:00With such steps, you are further deepening the impression
03:03of the helpless government of Form 47.
03:06Look, there will be an impression,
03:09the media will continue to pick it up.
03:12But the real challenge is to deliver it to the people of Pakistan.
03:15But the real challenge is to deliver it to the people of Pakistan.
03:18And if that delivery starts,
03:21it will not happen right now.
03:24It will take at least 6 to 10 months
03:27to see the results.
03:30It is expected to start in the beginning of next year, in the calendar year.
03:33This will be done in 2025.
03:36And a very big challenge in the coming months is that
03:39that inflation, which has been controlled with great difficulty,
03:42that inflation, which has been controlled with great difficulty,
03:45if it remains less than 12%
03:48and then the government is able to cut interest rates,
03:51which will give it a lot of relief in debt repayments.
03:54The real issue is that if stability is achieved,
03:57then along with time, these impressions can also be expressed
04:00with their work, with their hard work.
04:03And the parliament's committees should be used with more transparency.
04:06And the parliament's committees should be used with more transparency.
04:09And the parliament's committees should be used with more transparency.
04:12But sir, the problem is that there is no delivery yet
04:15and there is a lot of question on credibility
04:18and you have disengaged the parliament through SROs.
04:21Now, if Imran Khan starts a hunger strike in the middle of this,
04:24then how will you tolerate this pressure?
04:27I mean, with the hunger strike,
04:30the country's country chickens should be saved.
04:33But the real issue in front of the government at the moment
04:36is stability, economic stability,
04:39is stability, economic stability,
04:42political stability, that is,
04:45much more important than the hunger strike of Imran Khan
04:48is that the interaction with the Pakistan Vivace Party
04:51should be done more deeply,
04:54should be done frequently,
04:57should be done more deeply.
05:00The majority of the government's own parliament should be solid.
05:03There should not be any doubt in it.
05:06If the government has its own political viability,
05:09for example, this is perhaps something that many people have forgotten,
05:12that the government which was formed,
05:15the fake government of Shahbaz Sariq Sahib,
05:18this number of reserve seats was not included in it.
05:21It was formed without it.
05:24The government's majority will not be affected by the decision, but the issues are such that
05:33Mr. Shahbaz Sharif and his ministers are facing huge challenges on a daily basis.
05:42And as I said, we have not yet seen the kind of leadership that we need in Iblis.
05:49Mr. Khurram, the people of the past have a lot of fun playing with random principles,
05:53whether it is you or Imran Khan, so this is still a joke.
05:57But now the people are also crying about it.
05:59Now the judges are complaining about interference, writing letters,
06:02secret cameras in bedrooms, audio recordings, blackmailing.
06:05Not just politics, but the courts have also been severely affected.
06:08Even in 1993, after Mr. Mian's government was announced, which later escalated,
06:13when the Supreme Court was hearing this case,
06:15there was a case of recording the phone calls of the judges in front of the court.
06:18And during the hearing in the closed room,
06:20all the materials of the recordings of the telephone conversations of the judges and politicians were presented.
06:26At that time, 11 judges of the Supreme Court were recorded on the phone,
06:29and you are saying that it was not regulated, it was going on.
06:31If it is regulated, it is good.
06:32The problem is that all of us have come under this.
06:34So you as a democrat today, are you disappointed when you read this SRO, sir?
06:39Yes, I think it could have been refined much better.
06:44And there is still time when there is a discussion in this parliament.
06:49So in this, more safeguards,
06:52anyway, somewhere, new judicial officers should be created,
06:56in front of whom agencies should take their petitions,
07:00so that the safeguard of our rights is strengthened.
07:06Thank you very much, Mr. Khurram Dasagir.