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00:00You have already told us about yesterday's meeting, so I won't repeat it.
00:04I'll just ask one question and move on.
00:06Because Mr. Fawad has become very vocal and Mr. Zaidi and Mr. Imran Ismail have also become very vocal.
00:14So, we spoke to Mr. Khan yesterday about his return.
00:19And he said that nothing has happened yet.
00:21We'll see the case-to-case of these three later.
00:24Is this the case?
00:26Exactly. Thank you very much.
00:28May Allah bless him and grant him a safe journey, Maulana Muhammad.
00:32Yesterday, Mr. Khan has drawn a lot of clarity on this.
00:35I don't think there should be any confusion on this after this.
00:39Mr. Imran Khan said that there were many people who have been abused,
00:44or have been abused, or have been forced to do so.
00:48And there are some people who must have been exposed.
00:51So, I will see these things myself and I will see them case-by-case.
00:56So, when he said that I will see it myself and I will see it case-by-case,
00:59he has neither closed the door completely nor opened it completely.
01:04And he has the keys.
01:05So, it is completely unnecessary to criticize the current leadership of our former friends
01:11and to respond to the current leadership because Mr. Khan has also bound them to the current leadership.
01:20All our leadership, from the chairman to all the officials,
01:25and people like me who are now MNAs or former cabinet members of our community,
01:30or senior people or old people, Mr. Khan has put this restriction on everyone.
01:35You don't have to respond to them.
01:37You should focus on the issue of the release of prisoners, the return of the mandate,
01:42the genuine issues of justice and the return of the government.
01:45Ali Bhai, if I conclude this debate in this way,
01:48then it would be right to say that whether it is Mr. Fawad, Mr. Zaidi, Mr. Imran Ismail, or X, Y, Z,
01:53it is not final that they will not return.
01:56It is not final that they will not return.
01:58One thing is final, that until Mr. Khan is in jail,
02:00there will be no decision on this.
02:01They will come out and look at the case-by-case and then decide.
02:04Have I summed it up correctly?
02:07Yes, Mr. Khan, we will look at it ourselves.
02:08We will look at it case-by-case.
02:09The old people are with us.
02:11But I think that the current leadership,
02:14in which Mr. Rao Fasan is present,
02:16has been injured in the city.
02:18Barrister Gauhar has played a difficult role.
02:21Umar Ayoub is there.
02:22He has come out in a difficult situation.
02:23And along with that, our lawyer leadership,
02:27Mr. Salman Akram Raja, Mr. Sardar Khosla,
02:30Mr. Salman Sardar is a professional lawyer.
02:32And in this, our leaders are our lawyers,
02:34Mr. Naeem Panjota, and other friends.
02:36All of them have played a very fundamental role, Mr. Wasim.
02:38When we were in jail, they played a good role.
02:42Mr. Shibli Faraz is there, not to forget.
02:44So, a lot of people...
02:46This is a new combination of old and new.
02:49You will get a new, better, and refined justice when Mr. Khan comes out.
02:53I think that the old colleagues should also be patient.
02:57Mr. Khan did not say no, but they will look at the case-by-case themselves.
03:01So, because of this, this statement is damaging justice.
03:05So, Mr. Fawad has just given an interview to Mr. Asma Sharai at 8 o'clock.
03:10And then he spoke to Sahiba.
03:11And Mr. Rahul Fasan is also giving statements.
03:15So, if these are Mr. Khan's instructions, then why have these statements not been stopped?
03:20Look, I am telling you what Mr. Khan has done.
03:22Now, if someone wants to give a statement,
03:26we cannot stop them.
03:27But let me tell you one thing.
03:30Where my view...
03:31Those old friends also know, and everyone knows my view, that I think that
03:35no one leaves the Jama'at out of happiness, out of helplessness,
03:38if your children, your mother, your sisters are in threat.
03:41But here, a counter argument is also that the people who stood up and took a stand,
03:45they also had children, they also had mothers, they also had homes, just like us.
03:49So, without getting into these debates,
03:51let it be decided by the Supreme Leader Imran Khan.
03:55He, God willing, will come out soon and make a decision himself.
03:58So, avoid unnecessary fighting.
04:00This is the best for everyone's health.
04:03And anyway, Mr. Fawad Chaudhary, this is okay, right?
04:06If this is Mr. Khan's statement,
04:08it is a source of satisfaction for him.
04:10And you understand that he is very happy about this.
04:13On one hand, there is the current leadership, Mr. Rahul Fasan,
04:15who is showing on television programs,
04:17that look, he has been removed from the party.
04:20So, the case to case that Mr. Khan is talking about,
04:22Fawad Chaudhary is not even a part of it.
04:23Because he has been removed from the party.
04:26So, on one hand, Mr. Rahul Fasan is saying this.
04:27But on the other hand, Mr. Khan is saying, I will see.
04:29No one is saying that he has been removed from the party.
04:31So, Mr. Fawad is very satisfied with this, right?
04:34That his statement has become more reliable in this regard, right?
04:40Mr. Khan will see for himself.
04:41I think Mr. Fawad should also be patient until then.
04:44And it would be appropriate that the current leadership,
04:49they have also made sacrifices, they have also taken a stand.
04:51So, our focus is on Mr. Imran Khan's release
04:55and the return of the mandate.
04:57Our focus is on the real issues of the people at the moment.
05:00And anyway, there is no denying the fact that
05:03those who have taken a stand, those who have suffered,
05:07there is no change in that.
05:08The suffering that Shariar Afridi has suffered,
05:10the suffering that Shandana Gulzar has suffered,
05:12the suffering that Jad Chaudhary is suffering,
05:13the suffering that Dr. Yasmeen Rashid Sahiba is suffering,
05:15our former Governor, Mr. Cheema, he is also from Punjab.
05:18He is still standing.
05:19Mr. Parvez Ilahi, our Shah Mehmood Qureshi,
05:22not to forget, Ms. Bushra, all of them,
05:24these are the people who have suffered.
05:27So, let Mr. Khan come out.
05:30These issues will be resolved, Inshallah.
05:31You have already said that this is the issue.
05:36Another issue is that those people who are a part of the party,
05:41who are also being called the current leadership of the party,
05:42Mr. Rahul Fasan and others,
05:44that they are a part of the party, they are the backbone,
05:46Shandana Sahiba, Mr. Shariar.
05:48But these people also have a heart for a few things.
05:52And this is not a secret that they have a grudge against the current leadership.
05:54I am saying this on air.
05:55Mr. Shariar is saying that he wants to meet me,
05:56but I am not allowed to meet Mr. Khan.
05:58I don't know who doesn't let me meet him.
05:59Shandana Sahiba is saying that we are frustrated with the party's inaction.
06:03I am quoting her words.
06:05So, the meetings that Mr. Khan has tomorrow,
06:07are with these two groups,
06:08that Shandana Sahiba, Mr. Shariar, etc.,
06:11and the current leadership,
06:12so that the issues between them can be resolved.
06:14Are these the meetings that Mr. Khan has tomorrow?
06:17When this issue came to Waseem Bhai,
06:19and there was a lot of talk about it,
06:22I remember at the end of last week,
06:24I spoke very openly about it,
06:26that there is no forward block in Tariq-e-Insaab,
06:29there is no group.
06:30And whoever tries to make a forward block in Tariq-e-Insaab,
06:34or tries to make a group,
06:36he will dig his own political grave.
06:38I am telling you clearly.
06:39And yesterday, Mr. Imran Khan spoke openly about it.
06:42Your own media persons came there and asked questions.
06:45Let me tell you, the way the media is handled there,
06:48Mr. Khan is not allowed to speak.
06:50It is sad to see such a great leader being treated like this.
06:53But anyway, let's move on to another topic.
06:56Mr. Khan himself said that there is no forward block in Tariq-e-Insaab,
07:00nor is there a group in it,
07:02because no one can afford it.
07:04At the moment, Tariq-e-Insaab is the only group.
07:06Fifty years ago, there was a time of Mr. Bhutto,
07:08when he used to win.
07:10Now, Tariq-e-Insaab has a very large vote bank.
07:13Politically, if someone, God forbid,
07:16I am using the word God forbid,
07:17is not loyal,
07:19he looks at the political expediency and thinks,
07:21no, there is no politics outside of Tariq-e-Insaab.
07:23So, there is no forward block.
07:26Yes, there can be a difference of opinion,
07:28and there should be.
07:30If there is no difference of opinion,
07:31it means that there is no political group.
07:33Yesterday, when Mr. Khan spoke about that,
07:36I also suggested to him,
07:38that some of our friends,
07:39your old companions,
07:40call them, listen to them,
07:41and see what their reservation is.
07:43So, Mr. Khan himself has given direction in that regard.
07:45Yesterday, he called some of his friends.
07:47There are no groups in this.