Sales/PC/BC/KC, 1977
Transcript
00:00Ladies and gentlemen, from New York City, Joe Garagiola!
00:10Thank you!
00:13Thank you very much, and thank you, Alan Calder.
00:21Hey, how's this for a good deal?
00:23Now, I got a great deal for you.
00:24A hotel room for one night, plus brunch, and the use of a swimming pool, for only $15.95.
00:33Pretty good deal, right? Now, there is one catch to it.
00:36You've got to be a woman to register.
00:39Now, some of you will have recognized the hotel, I'm sure, by that description.
00:43It's the famous Barbizon Hotel for Women, right here in New York City.
00:47And we'll meet the manager of the Barbizon, but first we're going to meet our panel on To Tell the Truth, and here they come!
00:53Here's Sookie Sales!
00:58Peggy Tax!
01:02Bill O'Reilly!
01:07And Kitty Carlyle!
01:19Well, Peggy, you came out like you just hit a home run. That's the way those guys do it nowadays.
01:24Slap your hand and handshake.
01:26I like the new dance they do when they get a touchdown.
01:28Oh, yeah, what's his name, Willie Whiteshoes?
01:30Yeah.
01:31I think if I was a defensive man and the guy did that, I may have to give him that football for breakfast.
01:38Or that little dance they do. You'd think they'd really invented the game, but oh well.
01:41Hey, listen, we got a great guest coming up here.
01:44The manager of the Barbizon Hotel for Women.
01:55Number one, what is your name, please?
01:57My name is Barry Mann.
01:59Number two?
02:00My name is Barry Mann.
02:02And number three?
02:04My name is Barry Mann.
02:06It's kind of unique. Runs a hotel for women. It's a man, and his name is Barry Mann.
02:11And here is his story.
02:13I, Barry Mann, am the manager of the Barbizon Hotel for Women.
02:17Located at 63rd Street and Lexington Avenue in New York City,
02:22this renowned hotel affords cloistered security in an atmosphere that is very much like a college dormitory or sorority house.
02:33The rooms are reasonable, but as you can see, not very large.
02:38For many years, a woman needed three character references in order to be considered for the Barbizon.
02:44In addition, a desk clerk would grade each resident on an A, B, or C scale.
02:50I took away all the rules except one.
02:53Men are still not allowed in the women's rooms.
02:57Incidentally, the Barbizon has been the New York address for such luminaries as Grace Kelly,
03:02Liza Minnelli, Cloris Leachman, and of course, the one and only Peggy Cass.
03:09Sign, sign Barry Mann.
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06:27Well, across from you, panel, we have three gentlemen all claiming to be Barry Mann,
06:32who is the manager of the Barbizon Hotel for Women.
06:34And we're going to start with the former resident of the Barbizon, Peggy Cass.
06:38Well, obviously, none of these gentlemen were the manager when I was there.
06:41Number one, the Barbizon had a very famous doorman for years and years.
06:46Do you know his name?
06:47Yes, his name was Oscar.
06:48Uh-huh. And number three, who was Mrs. Sibley?
06:52Mrs. Sibley was the assistant manager of the hotel for a great many years.
06:55I have a feeling she rated me C-.
06:57Now, number two, he nodded yes.
07:00Number two, if you wanted to entertain a fellow, where would you have to take him?
07:05Up to the lounge on the second floor, that's it.
07:08Oh, is there no other floor you're allowed to take a fellow to?
07:11Absolutely.
07:12Well, number one, was there ever another floor that were you allowed to take a fellow to?
07:16Yeah, on the 18th floor.
07:17Thank you. Number three, do you still serve tea in the afternoon?
07:20Occasionally, not on a regular basis like we used to.
07:23Well, it was good because when you were broke, you ate all those cookies and it did for dinner.
07:27I think that's too bad you took that away.
07:29Now, number two, a school, a very well-known school,
07:32had two floors of the Barbizon when I lived there for their students to live in.
07:37What school was that?
07:38Catherine Gibbs, but they had three floors.
07:41Oh, they did? Well, you guys know everything.
07:43Let's go to Bill Collins.
07:45I once got to the 18th floor of the Barbizon.
07:47Yes?
07:48The elevator was broken, I had to walk up the stairs.
07:51When I got there, I wasn't dangerous to anyone.
07:53Number one, number one.
07:56Were you before?
07:57No, I wasn't before.
07:59Number one, did Peggy indeed have three character references to get into the Barbizon?
08:04Did Peggy have three references?
08:06Yes, did she have to have three character references?
08:08I assume she did.
08:09Number three, were they carefully checked?
08:12Yes, I'm sure they were at that time.
08:14Now, staying with you, number three, this A, B, or C, they grade you.
08:17On what does that depend?
08:19Well, primarily, the Barbizon was started as an age group hotel,
08:23comparable to a dormitory, so A, B, C are purely age groups.
08:27Oh, I see. It was nothing about department or conduct or anything like that?
08:30No, not usually.
08:31Number two, how much did it cost when Peggy stayed there?
08:35Do you recall?
08:36I was not the manager then. I don't know.
08:38Number one, do you have a wild guess about how things have gone up?
08:43I imagine, I don't know when she was there, but if she was there 15 years ago,
08:47it was probably $20, $30 a week.
08:50Back further, number one.
08:5125.
08:52Right, right.
08:5725 years ago.
08:58I was in school.
08:59Well, I should name a room for you there, I really think.
09:01I wouldn't guess the room they named for me. Forget it.
09:06Okay, Kitty.
09:07Number three, how much do you charge a night now?
09:10We charge anywhere between $15 and $22 a night.
09:13It used to be that a week.
09:15$15 and $22 a night, that's not bad, that's not bad at all.
09:19Now, number two, there were no ratings when Peggy was there,
09:22they didn't rate her department, is that right?
09:25Only on looks.
09:27They rated her on looks?
09:28Yes.
09:29Oh, and Grace Kelly and Liza Minnelli too?
09:31Well, that would be on an A plus, B plus scale.
09:34Ah, well, Peggy got A plus, I'm sure.
09:36Now, number one, you say that fellas can go to the 18th floor.
09:40What's on the 18th floor?
09:41There are two lounge areas with a sun deck going around the entire perimeter of the building.
09:46Thank you. Number three, no restaurant can they go to?
09:48They probably got a trained gorilla up there too.
09:50Okay, Silky.
09:54Number one, is it just for people, girls in show business?
09:59No, just for girls.
10:01Oh, well, that's for girls, so am I.
10:04Number two, let me ask you this, for a girl to stay at the Barbizon,
10:09do you have to interview each and every one of them?
10:11Not now, no.
10:12Number three, they can just check in, do they have to pay in advance?
10:15No.
10:16Number four, do they pay cash?
10:19I mean, number one.
10:20Well, I went one, two, three.
10:22One, two, three, back to one is four in my book.
10:24But let's look at it this way.
10:26You better.
10:28Number one, do they pay?
10:32Do they have to pay by the week or by the month or what?
10:36There are three rates.
10:37There's a daily rate, a weekly rate, or a monthly rate, and they have to be paid in advance.
10:41Uh-huh. Number two.
10:43Game's over, and Soupy will go back to his little cage and vote like the rest of them.
10:47Isn't he something?
10:48Hey, do you think it's number one?
10:51Or do you think it is number two?
10:53Or do you think it is number three?
10:56We'll pay $50 for each incorrect vote, $500 if all the votes are wrong.
11:01And Peggy, you got to start.
11:02How did you vote?
11:03Gee, number one, I was going to vote for you right up to the last minute,
11:06but when you said they have to pay in advance, I don't think the Barbizon is that kind of a hotel.
11:10You have to pay for your night's rent in advance.
11:12Number three, I think you're too good-looking.
11:14You're a danger around there, but I voted for you.
11:17Okay, Bill Cullen.
11:19I voted for number three on the basis of his answers to Peggy's questions,
11:23and I'm glad I did now that I see that she voted for number three, too.
11:25We'll go down together.
11:26Number three, Kitty.
11:27Well, gee, I think number one and two are also a threat to the ladies depending on one's age.
11:32And I voted for number one because he knew about the 18th floor,
11:37and I just think he's the one.
11:39Oh, and I didn't ask you about the pool, which I've used.
11:42Good pool there.
11:43Okay.
11:44I can't wait for this vote.
11:45Soupy Sales.
11:46No, I disagree because I know about paying in advance
11:49because I travel around a lot and they always like the money in advance.
11:53Number one, as a true hotel man, he'd take advance money from anybody right there.
12:00Okay, now the votes are all in, and waiting backstage is a lady by the name of Alice Sachs.
12:06Now, Miss Sachs first moved to the Barbizon way back in 1935.
12:10That's over 42 years ago.
12:12Now, she still lives there, and she is the longest-term resident in the Barbizon,
12:16and we thought it would be appropriate we would invite Miss Sachs to the studio
12:20and help us pick out the real Berry Man.
12:22So, ladies and gentlemen, the Honorable Alice Sachs.
12:25And here she is.
12:33One can't be a Berry Man.
12:36It's got to be one.
12:39There he is, number one.
12:41Okay.
12:47All right, number one.
12:49Number one, let us find out now about the imposter.
12:52Number two, what is your name, what do you do?
12:54My name is Don Niederlitz.
12:56I'm a commercial artist and a co-founder of Acting by Children.
12:59Uh-huh.
13:04And number three, what is your name, what do you do?
13:07My name is John Rowe, and I'm the creator of a product called The Million Dollar Soap.
13:11I see.
13:12Okay.
13:13Okay.
13:17Miss Sachs, we introduced you as the Honorable, and there's a reason for that.
13:21You're well-known for your role in politics.
13:23Can you tell us a little bit about your activities?
13:25Yes.
13:26I must say, though, that I didn't have to pass a test.
13:28I got in through the Wellesley Club, and one reason I have moved is because I lucked in.
13:32I might not get back in again if I hadn't moved out.
13:34You're talking about the Barbizon.
13:35I'm talking about the Barbizon now.
13:37I work at Crown Publishers, but I am known as Honorable because it's a generic term,
13:42like a brand name, used if you hold any public position.
13:46On the side, I am a Democratic district leader and also a member of the New York City Board of Elections,
13:53currently the president.
13:54Wow.
13:55Uh-huh.
13:57Okay.
14:00And you've been living there a long time and enjoying every minute of the Barbizon, huh?
14:04Every single minute except those that I didn't.
14:07Uh-huh.
14:08Great answer, great answer.
14:09Thank you, Miss Sachs.
14:10Barry Mann, our two imposters from Playing to Tell the Truth.
14:12Thank you very much.
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16:39Well, panel, you had a chance to examine the apparatus.
16:41What do you think it does? What do you think it is, Sue?
16:43I think it's a plastic corned beef sandwich.
16:47What do you think it is, Peg?
16:48Well, I think it's a noiseless musical instrument.
16:51Okay, Bill?
16:52It's a three-dimensional game.
16:54All right, Kitty?
16:55I think it's one of those things that you buy people for Christmas that doesn't do anything.
16:59All right, we've just had four very adequate answers.
17:04You really don't know.
17:06Wait till you hear it.
17:07Let's meet the man now who invented the device that you're still looking at.
17:11Let's meet him.
17:14Number one, what is your name, please?
17:16My name is Simeon E. Kruger.
17:19Number two.
17:21My name is Simeon E. Kruger.
17:23And number three.
17:25My name is Simeon E. Kruger.
17:28Well, it's time to find out more about what Mr. Kruger invented, and here is what he has to say.
17:34I, Simeon E. Kruger, am an inventor.
17:37A number of years ago, I was forced to retire because of rheumatoid arthritis.
17:43In order to regain strength and flexibility in my hand,
17:47I designed the apparatus that the panel is still examining.
17:51You can see them.
17:52I call it the Hand Gym.
17:55Here is a demonstration of how my invention puts the entire hand through its paces by bending,
18:03spreading,
18:06straightening,
18:09and curling.
18:13A five-minute daily workout can help restore hand function and strengthen finger muscles.
18:19If you've ever had trouble picking up small objects,
18:22holding a pencil, or opening a screw-top jar,
18:25the Hand Gym should improve your mobility.
18:28My invention has been used by thousands of patients in hospitals around the world
18:33and has been clinically studied for both rheumatoid and osteoarthritis at St. Vincent's Hospital in New York City.
18:40It proved very effective.
18:42Signed, Simeon E. Kruger.
18:46And we're going to start our questioning now with Kitty.
18:50Oh, well, sir, whoever you are, it's terrific.
18:53I know that exercise works because I have a friend called Frederick Lowe, a famous composer,
18:59who fixed his arthritic hands with piano work, practicing the piano.
19:04But everybody can't play the piano, so that's a marvelous idea.
19:07Do you believe, number two, that exercise is good for everybody?
19:13Exercise is good for every form of arthritis?
19:17For instance, arthritis of the neck.
19:19Would you do head exercises?
19:21Yes, as a matter of fact, that's the only thing you can do.
19:24Number three, there are an awful lot of doctors who say,
19:27oh, take 16 aspirin a day, there's nothing you can do.
19:30You don't believe that?
19:32You have to do exercise in addition to the aspirins.
19:34Uh-huh. Thank you.
19:36Let's go to Supi.
19:38Number three, is it true that warm weather climate is the ideal situation for an arthritic?
19:45There's nothing ideal, but you feel better as an arthritic in a warm climate.
19:49Uh-huh. Number two, how long did it take you to invent this, I mean, to come up with this?
19:58Well, it took me quite some time because I did sculpting.
20:05And I found out I can't do any more work.
20:09So I started doing little exercises.
20:12And it took me about three years before I finally finalized it.
20:16Uh-huh. Number one, who did you take this to when you first perfected it?
20:21I took it to hospitals.
20:24I let doctors pass judgment on it.
20:27And then one of the hospitals in New York.
20:29That's as far as you have to go there, number one, because we're going to go to Peggy.
20:33Thank you. Number three, some of this stuff, do you push and pull or do you just use your hands with the elastics?
20:44No, well, you do everything. You push and you pull.
20:47But you curl, as you saw, you curl your fingers around the...
20:51Uh-huh. Well, number two, this is not an expensive thing to make, is it?
20:56No, not really.
20:58Well, when you sell it to the hospitals, I mean, it's almost anybody could afford this, isn't that true?
21:04Yes, certainly.
21:05Well, number one, how much does it cost to buy one of these hand gyms?
21:10Well, it varies who sells it.
21:14Some people charge more and some people charge less.
21:17Ah, but number three, do you get these to the hospital or you just can walk in anywhere and buy them?
21:22Well, you get them through surgical supply stores.
21:26Buzzer. Let's go to Bill Cullen.
21:28Number one, staying with you, just to get the workings right, do I put my left fingers in there like so and my right in there?
21:34Well, the rubber bands are guides.
21:37I see.
21:38And at first, your hands are put in above the rubber bands and then later on below.
21:44It depends upon what motion you have selected first or second.
21:49Number two, is there a theory behind this, a bit of psychology, it being that if you have gone to the trouble to buy and pay for this, you will exercise correctly?
21:57Is that also part of the treatment?
21:59Well, you have to believe that it will. That's the work.
22:02Number three, could I do the exercises necessary without this aid?
22:06It would be very difficult.
22:09Number three.
22:10Well, that means the game's over and now it's time to vote and they must mark their ballots.
22:15And do you think it's number one or do you think it is number two or do you think it is number three?
22:23Kitty has to vote first.
22:26She was looking for a pen and she has just voted.
22:29So how did you vote, Kitty?
22:30I voted for number three because he believes in his instrument and he answered Bill's question by saying,
22:37you could do the exercises without my gadget, but it would be difficult.
22:41OK, Sue B. Sayles.
22:42Well, number one was most emphatic about how it worked and how it performed.
22:46I vote for him.
22:47Peggy.
22:48Oh, you know who I voted for?
22:50I voted for Tug McGraw, number two, who said you got to believe.
22:54OK, Bill Cullen.
22:56I, too, on the basis of pure faith.
22:58All right.
22:59The votes are all in.
23:00Let's ask that question.
23:01Will the real Semyon E. Kruher please stand up?
23:07There he is, number three.
23:13OK, let us find out about the imposters now.
23:16Number one, what is your name and what do you do?
23:18My name is Charles Renz.
23:19I'm a retired newspaper and magazine columnist.
23:22Aha.
23:25Number two, what is your name and what do you do?
23:27My name is Baylor Kovacs.
23:29I teach shop and printing at Manhattan Country School here.
23:33Aha.
23:36Mr. Kruher, it's obvious that your apparatus helps those people with arthritis,
23:40but it helps other people, too, does it not?
23:42Well, it will help anybody who wants to improve his flexibility
23:48and strength of the fingers for his profession or hobby,
23:52like people who play the piano, the guitar, dentists, etc.
23:57Aha.
23:58Get that flexibility in your hands.
24:00You know, I know a great many of the viewers either suffer from arthritis themselves
24:04or have some friends.
24:05I would like to give you an address if you want more information
24:07about Mr. Kruher's remarkable hand gym that we have here,
24:10but I do caution you, please, and I beg you,
24:14please don't write to me or write to our panel or to tell the truth
24:17because the letter will just simply get lost.
24:20I'm going to give you the address.
24:21I'm even going to spell it out, and please, again, do not write to me.
24:26Much better results if you write post office box number 12,
24:31Paquanock, New Jersey, 07440.
24:35Now, that's post office box number 12, Paquanock,
24:38and you spell that P like in Paul, E-Q-U-A-N-N-O-C-K,
24:44Paquanock, New Jersey, 07440.
24:50Now, if you want some information, that's where you write,
24:52and, again, I say, please don't write to me or to our panel.
24:57Mr. Kruher, let me get back to you since I gave that
24:59because I know many of our people would like that information.
25:04How about in a sporting life, like, say, a pitcher who throws a curveball
25:08or a golfer to get stronger hands?
25:10Would this help him?
25:11Yes.
25:12We have, in the studies at St. Vincent Hospital,
25:15there were two people who played golf who were helped by it,
25:19and evidently it will also help people who play golf who don't have arthritis.
25:23It helps their flexibility and gives you a surer hand.
25:27Now, as a matter of fact, there was a study made by
25:29Adelphi University in Garden City with normal subjects
25:33by the Department of Public Health, no,
25:37gymnastics or something you call it, especially for that purpose.
25:40Uh-huh.
25:41Now, is there an advanced apparatus or is this the whole thing?
25:44No, it's the same.
25:45Keep it going.
25:46Keep it going.
25:47Well, congratulations to you.
25:49I'm sure you've given many people much hope, much help.
25:51We thank you for that, we thank you for Plants That Tell the Truth,
25:54and we thank you, R2 Impostor.
25:55Thank you very much gentlemen.
25:57Applause
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27:32The greatest stars in television history appear on Game Show Network.
27:38Okay, Kirstie. Harriet said, I'm worried about my husband.
27:41He keeps bringing home leftovers from work.
27:45The only trouble is he works in a blank.
27:47Hospital.
27:48In a hospital.
27:52Do you agree that that was not a little bit morbid?
27:54It was quite morbid.
27:55Isn't she something?
27:56But it's not as morbid as Mortuary.
27:58Mortuary.
27:59See your favorite stars on Game Show Network.
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28:05Where to tell the truth continues with Gary Moore.
28:08Followed by What's My Line and Password.
28:14By the way, Mr. Crewer, who was just on our last spot, being as generous as he is,
28:18has asked that his share of the prize winnings be donated to the Arthritis Foundation.
28:21And of course, we will be happy to do just that.
28:24So, having said that, we hope you enjoy the show.
28:27We'll look for you again tomorrow.
28:28You be sure to join us.
28:29Bye-bye, everybody.
28:30In addition to the Cash Awards,
28:31our presenters and attendees will receive fashion jewelry from Sarah Coventry.
28:34We have jewelry for every occasion.
28:36You see the jewelry with fashion know-how at a Sarah Coventry home fashion show.
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29:38Stick around.
29:39There's more To Tell the Truth heading your way.
29:41This time with Gary Moore.
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