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00:00I'm Kelsey Grammer, and you're watching Deadline.
00:30Great.
00:31Hello.
00:32Okay.
00:33Yes, thank you.
00:34I'd love to come in.
00:35So.
00:36Your place is so...
00:37Damn, when I started that sentence, I thought I'd think of something.
00:42Yeah.
00:43Sorry.
00:44The Picasso's getting reframed, and the whole second floor's in the shop.
00:47No, you're not.
00:48You're not.
00:49You're not.
00:50You're not.
00:51You're not.
00:52You're not.
00:53You're not.
00:54You're not.
00:55You're not.
00:56You're not.
00:57You're not.
00:58You're not.
01:00You know, you have your mother's sense of humor, Frederick.
01:03Oh no, it's charming.
01:05It reminds me of the sort of place one would wrestle a cartoon rat for a crust of bread.
01:10There it is.
01:11Your subtle reminder I'd make more money if I wasn't just a firefighter.
01:15No, no.
01:16I admire what you do.
01:17It's a noble profession.
01:18It's just that you did so well in your psych classes at Harvard.
01:21Right, but I wanted to do something important.
01:23What I do is important.
01:24It is at least as important as what you do.
01:26Okay, sure.
01:27Let's find someone who has low self-esteem and is also on fire and see which one of us
01:30they run to first.
01:33There's that mother of yours again.
01:36Welcome to the Actor's Side.
01:37Everybody knows Kelsey Grammer.
01:40And boy, you have set records for the longest period of time playing one single character.
01:46I didn't realize that.
01:47Are you tied with Jim Arnez on Gunsmoke?
01:49Right.
01:50Which is pretty amazing.
01:51This is Kelsey Grammer.
01:53Hi.
01:54Thanks.
01:55Welcome to the Actor's Side.
01:57Mariska Hargitay, I think, has now eclipsed both of us.
02:00She's been on that show for a long time.
02:03I'm proud to say I'm back in the barrel, and maybe I'm going to catch up to her again.
02:07See?
02:08You're going to jump ahead again.
02:09This is a contest that's not quite over.
02:12It's pretty amazing, though, when you think about it.
02:14Now you've brought Frasier back, obviously.
02:16It's a success all over again.
02:19You're going into the second season, right?
02:21Yes.
02:22Yeah.
02:23But it's a whole new Frasier.
02:24But it's such a great character.
02:25You just couldn't stay away, could you?
02:26Well, you know what?
02:27The funny thing about Frasier is he didn't disappear.
02:30He went on to another life.
02:31And that's what we always constructed in our minds, in my mind at least.
02:34I always thought, well, he's off in some place somewhere in the zeitgeist or in the whatever that would be, the ethereum.
02:41And he is living a life and growing and changing and becoming a richer, wiser man.
02:47And that might be interesting to have another look inside his world.
02:50Yeah.
02:51So it came out that way.
02:52There's so much to Frasier.
02:53Yeah.
02:54There's so much to explore, I think, you find now at Frasier's now, what, 68 or something?
03:00Something like that.
03:01Yeah.
03:02Somewhere in that range.
03:03Yeah.
03:04Back to Boston.
03:05Yeah.
03:06You're not trying to recreate what we saw before.
03:08That's interesting, bringing back everything.
03:10Was there ever a thought you were going to have the original cast come back to?
03:14Well, I originally wanted to bring the whole legacy cast back.
03:18But it didn't work out.
03:20But also, the idea was always to be that they'd all grown.
03:23We'd all changed, gone on to their own lives, somewhere else.
03:26Everyone was somewhere else.
03:27Right.
03:28And of course, the thing that was the linchpin was that John Mahoney had died.
03:31Yeah.
03:32And so Martin then had to be dealt with.
03:34And that would be what would launch the next phase, the act three or four.
03:38Yeah.
03:39Or what you want to call it.
03:40That's so nice because you have such a tribute to John Mahoney here, even in the naming of Mahoney's and all of that.
03:45Yeah.
03:46And the baby's name is John.
03:47And the baby's name and everything.
03:49That was a great relationship.
03:51I mean, maybe even for you personally in playing that, having that father.
03:56Yeah.
03:57When John died, I got a call from one of the press people I work with who said,
04:03you know, people are upset you haven't posted something.
04:05Well, I don't post my grief.
04:07I mean, I don't do that.
04:09But he said, can you put something on?
04:11And I just said, he was my father.
04:14That was a real true statement in a lot of ways because he was my practice father, the one I knew.
04:22I mean, I didn't really know my dad.
04:24And he died when I was fairly young.
04:26But even before that, I barely knew him.
04:28And so John was my functional father.
04:31David Hyde Pierce was my functional brother.
04:33I got to explore the relationship a man might have with his father as a grown man.
04:39I got to explore the relationship I might have with a full-grown brother with David.
04:44And it was a luxury, I always thought, and actually sort of a family that replaced the one I might have had.
04:52It was great.
04:53So I got to learn some lessons that maybe I wouldn't have known otherwise.
04:56That's the great thing about being an actor, too, that you can do that, which is great about that profession.
05:02Did you have a dog, too?
05:04Well, I had several dogs.
05:05Oh, okay.
05:06Kelsey had a lot of dogs.
05:08At one point, there were eight dogs in my house.
05:10Oh, my gosh.
05:11And seven cats.
05:12Then I moved more to coyote country, and the cats all went.
05:16I was like, oh, for Pete's sakes.
05:18I tried to tell them.
05:19I said, you've got to move inside the house.
05:21You have to deal with this litter box thing because you can't live like we lived in the valley anymore.
05:26Right.
05:27And they were gone in about six months.
05:29Oh, my God.
05:30Yeah, no, it just broke my heart.
05:31Cats are impossible.
05:32I have two, Thelma and Louise.
05:34Well, you named them properly.
05:37Everyone loved Eddie.
05:38Yeah.
05:39Everyone loved Eddie.
05:40You know, that was just—
05:42Well, he was lovable.
05:43He was a remarkable dog for, you know, a trained dog.
05:47Yeah.
05:48So now that Frazier's back in Boston and this whole new life with these wonderful characters, and Nicholas—
05:55Nicholas Lindhurst.
05:56He is so perfect in this.
05:59He's wonderful.
06:00We met on stage four years ago, almost five years ago now.
06:03He was a delight.
06:05The minute we met, we fell in love, and we just became fast friends.
06:08I would venture to say we may very well be—I mean, I always hate it when somebody says this, but he might actually be my best friend.
06:14Wow.
06:15So it's pretty wild, but it always seemed like he would have to be on the show.
06:20Yeah.
06:21And we were discussing the reboot at that point.
06:24About a year later, I said to him, I said, would you be interested in maybe being on the new Frazier?
06:30And he said, you've spoken words I've dreamed of hearing.
06:34He's a wonderful guy.
06:35Do you like that format of doing the comedy series in front of the audience in that way rather than just single camera?
06:42Well, yeah.
06:43I mean, I've grown accustomed to both.
06:44I mean, I like theater.
06:46Probably that's my number one favorite.
06:48But then the perfect mix is multiple camera, sitcom-style shooting with a live audience.
06:55Without the live audience, it seems sort of silly.
06:57We tried to do some stuff during the lockdown with a very limited audience and everybody was wearing shields and stuff.
07:03It just was—
07:04How do you get the laughs there?
07:06There was no joy in it.
07:08So that was a very hard lift.
07:10But this was great.
07:13We could bring the folks back in.
07:14It was really, really wonderful.
07:15They give you everything, honestly.
07:17If you don't know where a joke is, the audience will tell you.
07:19Right.
07:20Yeah.
07:21This is really the Kelsey Grammer production from behind the scenes to in front.
07:27I mean, you are the guy here.
07:30You directed?
07:31Yeah.
07:32You directed like over 30 of them.
07:34I did.
07:35I think 33.
07:3630, yeah.
07:37And then you've done several of these, too.
07:38A couple of these.
07:39Four of these, yeah, yeah.
07:40And producer as well and so involved.
07:43So do you like that hands-on kind of thing?
07:46Is that necessary, in other words?
07:49Well, the only person that's looking out for me as well as I am is—
07:52Well, there's nobody.
07:53There's just me.
07:54I mean, I'm in it with my whole heart, with everything I can give.
07:59And actually, my friend and sort of partner in crime, Tom Russo, mentioned years ago,
08:05six or seven years ago, said,
08:07What about a Frasier spin-off?
08:09And I was like, I don't know.
08:11And then it just started to gain steam when the Roseanne show did so well,
08:16when she came back.
08:17And there was kind of a popular move to bring back some other shows.
08:20I don't know how inspired that was or even successful that was.
08:22But I thought, if we're going to do it, we have to make sure he's responsible and moving
08:27and having evolved and was in a different position.
08:31And what was funny was when David Hyde Pierce basically made it clear
08:34he really didn't feel like playing Niles anymore,
08:36that became the launching pad for Boston, to go back to Boston.
08:42That freed you up.
08:43Absolutely.
08:44Frasier has unfinished business there.
08:46And that made it really, really interesting.
08:48Suddenly there was a whole bunch of stuff going on in my mind
08:51that will fulfill all the dreams he had when he was a young man
08:54that he didn't quite live up to.
08:55And there are relationships there that he has to kind of get some closure on still,
08:58like Diane and maybe some folks from the bar,
09:01but certainly Lilith, who was back on the show this year,
09:04and his son, which is Frederick, who they had a little,
09:08we've sort of fictionalized it and built this mythological world
09:13where they kind of broke up, whatever that was.
09:16There were some uneasy feelings about college
09:18and Harvard didn't go quite the way Frasier had hoped for his son
09:21and things like that.
09:23And I like that we've sort of come up with that storyline
09:25that's the backstory now for this relationship,
09:27an exploring relationship,
09:29that will now replace the relationship with my father.
09:32We've just bookended it.
09:34It's really well cast.
09:36All of them seem to fit just so perfectly.
09:38You watch it, Frasier fans are not Frasier people.
09:42People that are just looking at it the first time
09:44just get very comfortable looking at this,
09:46and it's so believable.
09:48And that's so important, that casting,
09:51and obviously to play this over and over and over again,
09:54as you have with this character.
09:56You've done so much.
09:58I mean, I look at what you've done.
10:00By the way, I saw Jesus Revolution.
10:02I saw it a couple times.
10:03Oh, thanks. I was very proud of that.
10:05Yeah, my wife wanted to see it, so I went again.
10:07It's very good.
10:08This was your recent film, Jesus Revolution,
10:10where, you know, it's a true story.
10:12I played Chuck Smith,
10:14who was sort of the father of the Jesus Revolution,
10:16just because he opened the church to hippies.
10:19Yeah.
10:20That's really what he did, and to music.
10:22I mean, the whole sort of Christian music movement
10:25is pretty much at his feet, which is fascinating.
10:28I didn't know anything about him.
10:30It was an amazing story of what went on during that time
10:33and how this was built.
10:35Yeah, the energy of it.
10:37And I go through this in my own head.
10:40It was on a night when I'd actually been up
10:42pretty much most of the night, and I was thinking,
10:44gosh, I just want to do something that has some value,
10:46that means something.
10:48And the next day, the script came.
10:50Well, I guess maybe I better do it.
10:51Wow.
10:52Yeah.
10:53There's a sign.
10:54It was pretty great.
10:55It was a really terrific undertaking,
10:57and I got to meet so many people with real love in their eyes
11:00who would say, like, you know, Pastor Chuck, he baptized me,
11:03or they'd say, Pastor Chuck married us.
11:05It was quite a thing, and to see that connection still
11:08in their eyes, that love that they had,
11:10this sort of cherished relationship they had
11:13with a man who made a difference in their life,
11:15and I was getting to play him, and that was a very cool thing.
11:17It's so amazing.
11:18I love the fact that you can be so associated
11:21by so many people with one character
11:24and not be held down by that,
11:26that you can play so many other things.
11:28Yes, I'm talking about X-Men.
11:31Yeah.
11:32The Beast, yes.
11:34He's pretty great.
11:35That's another great character that you've managed to play
11:38over the course of many years.
11:40Well, now I've been in three of the movies,
11:42but just the cameos in two of them,
11:44but the first one, Last Stand,
11:47that for me was just fantastic.
11:49I just loved it, and it was kind of gruesome,
11:52and putting on makeup was a lot harder then.
11:54I mean, now they just do, you know,
11:56it looks like sort of a geodesic circle
11:58with 100 cameras on it, and they do all this motion capture stuff,
12:01and then they just put the face on you.
12:03And that's it.
12:04Which is amazing.
12:05Is that what you did in the Marvels?
12:07Yeah, the most recent one.
12:09But I hadn't seen it, and I watched it on a plane recently,
12:12and I thought, I wonder when it's coming.
12:14Where's the damn scene?
12:15I was sort of drifting off, and then I heard my voice.
12:18I thought, oh, wow.
12:20It's unmistakably Beast's voice, which is interesting.
12:23It's not as good.
12:25It has a slightly different timbre than Frasier's voice.
12:28Right.
12:29And I thought, oh, that alarmed me almost.
12:32I thought, wow, that's really, that's an indelible guy.
12:35So, I mean, who knows?
12:36I hope we get to do some more.
12:37Oh, my, I'm sure you will.
12:39I mean, it's a great character, and it's fun.
12:41And then, of course, Sideshow Bob.
12:44Well, yeah.
12:46Is that, you've done that over the course of many seasons.
12:50Yeah, for almost as long as, I think the first one was the first season, I think.
12:53Yes.
12:54Yeah.
12:55I mean, you are the king of the long runs here.
12:57Sam Simon.
12:58Sam Simon was a writer on Cheers.
13:01And he called me one day when he was in the middle of production on Simpsons
13:06and said, are you still singing?
13:09Now, I've always sung.
13:12And he was just sort of having a joke with me, I guess,
13:15because I used to walk into rehearsal on the set of Cheers singing,
13:18oh, the good life, full of fun, seems to be the ideal.
13:23And people would just, they would think, oh, that guy, he's irrepressible.
13:28So, he said, can you sing a Cole Porter song?
13:30I said, well, yeah, of course I can.
13:31Which one?
13:32And he said, every time we say goodbye.
13:34I said, yeah, yeah, I'll do that for you.
13:36And that was the foundation of Sideshow Bob.
13:38But then the next thing when I got in and started to read the character,
13:41when I started to read the part, it was my,
13:44I'd logged away a character from an experience in my past.
13:48Now, I've told this story before, but it does bear repeating
13:50because he was such a one-off, this guy, Ellis Rabb.
13:53Oh, yes.
13:54Ellis Rabb, fantastic actor.
13:56I was painting his apartment and working on a new sort of,
14:00they did an APA Theater 2.0 that didn't ever really go anywhere,
14:04but I was working on the office space for a while.
14:06And so I got to know Ellis, and the way he spoke was pretty remarkable.
14:13And so I would just sort of drink it in.
14:14He'd come in late in the afternoon while I was still working,
14:16and he'd say, oh, Kelsey, wouldn't you like to sit and have a drink with me?
14:23Sure I would.
14:24Yeah, I'd love to.
14:25He'd say, why not?
14:26So I'm just about done here.
14:27Let me close up the paint cans and clean my brushes,
14:30and I'll sit down and have a martini with you.
14:32And so we'd have a martini,
14:33and he had been married to Rosemary Harris years before.
14:35I mean, he was beyond any working definition of gay,
14:39but he had this wonderful relationship with Rosemary as well.
14:42It was that generation.
14:43And they had split up.
14:46She had gone on to marry a senator, I think, from Washington and had a child.
14:51So during the time I was working with him, she had just had this child.
14:55And the quotation is, oh, Kelsey, that baby should have been mine.
15:03And that's Sideshow Bob.
15:04Bingo.
15:05You've got a character.
15:07I wonder if you'd not met him or run into him.
15:10Who knows if it would ever have happened.
15:11Yeah, I know.
15:12Because he casts a long shadow through the universe, Sideshow Bob does,
15:15and that's because of Ellis Rapp.
15:17That is wild.
15:18And you continue to play him.
15:20Yes.
15:21I just did one.
15:22The Simpsons is going to run longer than any show ever.
15:24Most successful show in history.
15:25I mean, like, it's unbelievable.
15:28And they never run out of stories.
15:30Well, you know what?
15:31They've succeeded in doing something extraordinary.
15:33They take contemporary culture and sort of throw it around without any real respect for it
15:39so that you recognize it, but it's timeless.
15:42The way they do it is timeless.
15:43We on our show, on Frasier,
15:46we eschewed contemporary culture because we didn't want to pigeonhole the timing
15:50or the time that was in our society so that it would remain funny.
15:55But in the Simpsons, it seems to work somehow.
15:59Yeah, that they can do that and get away with it.
16:01Yeah.
16:02It's true about what you just said about Frasier, though.
16:04Frasier is timeless.
16:05You know, there were sitcoms around the same time that were great.
16:09Murphy Brown.
16:10Murphy Brown, for instance, yeah.
16:12The Dan Quayle run was like, we're going to go with that in 20 years.
16:15I know.
16:16Who cares about it?
16:17Who knows who Dan Quayle is now?
16:18Exactly, yeah.
16:19And so the joke doesn't really work anymore.
16:22The relationships are working better.
16:23Yeah.
16:24Maybe that's why there's no Bach set out on Murphy Brown.
16:27There certainly isn't a Frasier because I own it.
16:30But now I'm going to have to start collecting all over again because you've got—
16:33We've got a whole bunch of new shows, yeah.
16:35Yeah.
16:36How much longer would you see yourself playing this or would you like to?
16:39I've got at least—it's a little harder with the 10-show season format right now.
16:44Right.
16:45We need to kind of pick up a few more if we can because I'd like to do another 100 at least.
16:50Wow.
16:51But, you know, that's going to be 10 more years.
16:54I mean, I certainly could do it, but I just don't know if people will want to.
17:00So I'd like to pound out a few more episodes.
17:03I'd like to get to 100.
17:04Yeah, well, they're watching it.
17:06They are watching it.
17:07And listen, it'll hold their attention.
17:08We've got these magnificent actors on the show that will sustain the interest of the audience, I think.
17:14And I certainly think Frasier will, too, because he's growing up.
17:17He's still growing up.
17:18He always has been.
17:19He's a man looking for love.
17:20He's still looking for love.
17:21He's still doing it.
17:22And it's fun to see people pop in like Perry Gilpin and things, too.
17:26You know, there's that.
17:27But I think it's taken on its own life that, you know, you don't really need the nostalgia.
17:32You can go with this guy.
17:33Right.
17:34Yeah, it's nice to kind of touch the past a little, you know, to sort of honor it.
17:39Yeah.
17:40But his new thrust is what's really interesting and where he's going now.
17:45This new exploration of being a teacher, of being a professor finally, of doing something that he thinks is giving back, which is great.
17:53Because he grew tired of his successful television, his syndicated successful television shows.
17:58He's filthy rich now.
17:59He's filthy rich because he grew tired of thinking, well, am I serving mankind like I'm supposed to?
18:05And, of course, in that way, we're sort of twinned.
18:07I mean, I like doing the world some good.
18:10And that's Fraser's chief occupation, I think.
18:13He's trying to, while he also lives well.
18:15Right.
18:16I know.
18:17It's fun for me going on Paramount Plus because they tell you what you've watched and what you watched there.
18:22And then they have older shows, reruns and things of stuff.
18:25There's one episode that says, like, Fraser, new Fraser, right next to the love boat, like episode three.
18:30I don't know.
18:31I turned it on.
18:32I did not ever do a love boat.
18:34I always sort of hurt my feelings.
18:36I wasn't invited.
18:37You weren't invited?
18:38I wasn't invited.
18:39Oh, my God.
18:40I'm stunned.
18:41My take on love boat was that you can watch everyone in Hollywood get to first base.
18:45That's true.
18:46On the love boat.
18:49That's true.
18:50I have to ask you, when you started, I mean, really, your Broadway debut is Macbeth.
18:55Then the next year you're doing Othello on Broadway.
18:59This is mind tripping, in my opinion.
19:01Yeah, Shakespeare was my thing.
19:03I was blessed to be able to play it.
19:05I mean, I got to do a few Shakespeare.
19:07My first job was the Shakespeare Festival in San Diego.
19:10Right.
19:11Old Globe.
19:12Yeah, the Old Globe Festival.
19:13And I did three years there, three seasons there.
19:15Oddly enough, it was in Ellis Rabb's office that the casting director for the Shakespeare Festival came in
19:20and saw me standing on a ladder working on a drop ceiling.
19:23And he looked up and said, are you an actor?
19:25I have no idea what he saw that would make him ask that question, but I said yes.
19:30Thank God for Ellis Rabb.
19:32I'll tell you what.
19:33I mean, it's a big relationship.
19:35That was Joel Martin, and he said, well, why don't you audition for the Shakespeare Festival tomorrow?
19:40I said, I'm there.
19:41No problem.
19:43I went in and did my set pieces, and they said, we'd like to invite you out.
19:46And I called my grandmother, and I said, Gam, guess what?
19:50And she said, you got an acting job, because it had been a big issue with us.
19:54Oh.
19:56She said, thank God.
19:57And I said, I need $69.
20:00Because at that time, we had a thing called Eastern, I think it was, had the Yellow Bird.
20:04It was a flight from LaGuardia to Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
20:08So it was $69 to get to Fort Lauderdale so I could pick up my motorcycle, get on it, and get to San Diego.
20:13Because they said to me, they said, we will not be paying for your transportation out there.
20:18Oh, my God.
20:19So I had about $100 in my pocket.
20:22My grandmother gave me the $69.
20:24I made it to San Diego five days later.
20:26On your motorcycle.
20:27On my motorcycle.
20:28And this career was born.
20:30It was a great trend.
20:31That's where it all started.
20:32That's amazing.
20:33You love the stage.
20:34Yeah, I do.
20:35Yeah, you can tell, because you keep going back to it and doing stuff.
20:37I did a movie with Charlie Durning a long time ago, a Christmas movie.
20:41And he had just finished doing a play.
20:43And I said, Charlie, what do you think?
20:44How often should you do a play?
20:45He says, well, I do one every year.
20:47I do one every year.
20:48I go off and I do a play somewhere in the provinces.
20:52And it's about three months out of his year.
20:55But I thought, well, I don't know if I can afford to do a play every year.
20:59Because it's kind of like donating your time.
21:02Right.
21:04I had gotten to the place where I had a pretty big overhead.
21:07And I couldn't really afford to do it.
21:09So every three years, I said, maybe three years I'll do a play.
21:13So I've kind of stuck with it.
21:14And do it, yeah.
21:15Like I was telling you before we started,
21:17I saw you on stage here at the Amundsen in L.A.
21:20doing Sweeney Todd when that came.
21:22That was a big deal, because it had not played here.
21:24Right.
21:25And it was really fun to do.
21:26Yeah, and it was great.
21:27A great part.
21:28You love doing musicals.
21:29You got nominated for a Tony for La Cage aux Folies.
21:32Didn't win.
21:33Well, that's OK.
21:34That's OK.
21:35You've won a few awards.
21:36Yeah, I've won a few awards.
21:37Check your mantle.
21:38Hardware, we like that.
21:39Yeah.
21:40Well, that was great, though, La Cage aux Folies, too, Jerry Herman.
21:43Wonderful.
21:44Yeah, we won Best Musical that year.
21:45Yeah.
21:46That was great.
21:47And Jerry was terrific.
21:48Opening night, he just gave me a big kiss on the cheek.
21:51And he said, this is exactly what I always wanted it to be.
21:54That was wonderful.
21:56Do people know that it's you singing Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs?
22:00I think so, yeah.
22:01I mean, because that's one thing that didn't change.
22:04That's still.
22:05Right.
22:06We just did a jazzier version.
22:07Oh, yeah.
22:08I aged it up a little.
22:09Mellowed it out a little.
22:10It was important to keep that.
22:11Absolutely.
22:12That's a signature.
22:13And that last bit in every show is like, you know, it's almost like.
22:16Yeah, it's a little cherry on top.
22:18Great silent movie.
22:19Right.
22:20Just before we go, I really like this show, The Boss.
22:22Oh, thanks.
22:23That was a really good show.
22:25It's my favorite character.
22:26It is?
22:27Yeah, yeah.
22:28Wow.
22:29I mean, he was rich, as they say.
22:30Raw.
22:31Rich, yeah, rich.
22:32I mean, and complex and, you know, diabolical, but also really caring.
22:36It was a very, very wonderful character to get to play.
22:39And what we had devised for him, had we gone on and done, you know,
22:42the full scope of the seasons we had imagined, was really quite breathtaking.
22:46It was really something.
22:47And his love for the city of Chicago was what really defined him.
22:50That was something I don't think anybody's ever seen on television.
22:53And I really, really enjoyed it.
22:54Was he inspired by Daly or anything like that?
22:57No, but they were all afraid of it.
22:59I had dinner with Daly, and I had dinner with Rahm Emanuel.
23:02Oh, yeah.
23:03Just so happened they wanted to have dinner and find out what we were going to be doing.
23:08I said, you guys are safe.
23:10It's fine.
23:11We look on this place as Chicago at the time.
23:14We thought of it as a mini fiefdom, you know, just its own little kingdom.
23:18And, of course, it's got a king.
23:20So, yeah, you guys can arguably say you set the mold for that.
23:25But this is a little different.
23:26You're going to be okay.
23:27I wish you would bring that back, too, so we could see how that would end.
23:30I'd love to finish it up.
23:31But we have a great, great ending for it.
23:33It's quite marvelous.
23:35In the end, you will love the monster if we get the chance.
23:37That would be amazing.
23:38Kind of like all the king's men a little bit.
23:40Yeah.
23:41Yeah, and all of that.
23:42Amazing.
23:43Kelsey Grammer, thank you so much for doing the action.
23:45Thanks, man.
23:46It's my pleasure.
23:47Thank you.