“Wonder Woman 1984” stars Gal Gadot, Chris Pine and Pedro Pascal discuss the DC film in this interview with CinemaBlend Managing Editor Sean O’Connell. Gadot talks about her reaction to seeing Wonder Woman’s gold armor for the first time, Pine discusses how Harrison Ford’s Indiana Jones influences his portrayal of Steve Trevor, Pascal reveals he was worried his failed Wonder Woman TV pilot might’ve cost him his role as Maxwell Lord, and more. Plus, Pascal, The Mandalorian himself, weighs in on why Patty Jenkins is a perfect choice to direct the “Star Wars: Rogue Squadron” movie.
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00:08Gal, I really want to ask you about the golden armor,
00:10which is something that we've never seen on screen before.
00:13It looks fantastic in the movie.
00:14I'm curious if you remember the first time
00:16that you got to see the design of the golden armor,
00:19what it was gonna look like.
00:20Um, it was amazing.
00:22First of all, when I first saw the sketch
00:25of what we're gonna design,
00:28it blew my mind.
00:29It was so beautiful, and, you know,
00:31it's like women and clothes, and it's like,
00:33golden armor is not something a woman would ever try on.
00:38And I was like, great!
00:39I have the best opportunity to try this crazy costume.
00:42Oh!
00:44It took a lot of work in terms of getting the look right
00:49and making sure it's still practical
00:51so we can move in it.
00:53Um, it wasn't the most comfortable, you know,
00:56it wasn't like wearing a pajama.
00:58There was a lot, um, of things going on.
01:02Um, but it was so worth it,
01:06and I'm so happy we did it,
01:07and Lindy Hemming just did the best, best, um,
01:11work with all the costumes.
01:13Conservative, but not entirely unfun.
01:19I can save today,
01:21but you can save the world.
01:25Steve.
01:26Diana.
01:29I won't reveal, uh, how Steve is brought back here.
01:33I know that that's something we're keeping for the audience,
01:35but I think it's safe to say that at least the, um,
01:37it allows you to approach him completely differently.
01:39It's a fresh interpretation.
01:40It's not what you did in the first film.
01:42And I'm wondering if you felt that way too,
01:44that it allowed you to do different things with him,
01:46and you didn't, you didn't have to really worry
01:48about messing up what you'd done previously.
01:50Yeah, I really like the Steve, the Steve,
01:53the version of Steve in the first film is,
01:55I love that, um, jaded hero archetype
01:59is really fun to play.
02:01I mean, that is such a classic cinema guy.
02:04If you see something wrong happening in the world,
02:06you can either do nothing or you can do something.
02:08And I already tried nothing.
02:10The interesting thing about this version
02:11is that this is not a classic cinema guy.
02:13This is, uh, or at least in a hero mold.
02:16Um, so how do you do that?
02:20I have no idea.
02:21It certainly wasn't, um, you know,
02:24uh, my, all my, you know, gruff guyness was like,
02:29no, I'm going to play the, you know, tough guy.
02:32Um, but it's a lot of fun.
02:34You know, the hard part about playing
02:36the kind of fish out of water, puppy Labrador,
02:39who's excited about everything is
02:41you have to really make, try,
02:44you have to play pretend and making sense of,
02:46okay, what, what is a toaster oven?
02:49And like, what is a Pop-Tart?
02:51And what is an elevator?
02:53What is an escalator?
02:54What's a fucking subway?
02:56Like, it's all, you have to completely change your brain
03:01and be like, how do you digest this?
03:03So there was a lot of fun in doing that.
03:06It's all art.
03:11That's just a trash can.
03:12It's just a trash can.
03:13Yeah, yeah.
03:15Life is good, but it can be better.
03:19All you need is to want it.
03:22Pedro, when they called you with an idea
03:24to feature you in a Wonder Woman sequel,
03:26did you initially think you were getting a chance
03:28to dust off Detective Ed Indelicato?
03:31No, that's such a good question
03:33because I think that because of the impact
03:36of the first movie and then, of course,
03:39the idea of getting to work with Patty Jenkins,
03:43I, I, I, I, it never, it never occurred to me
03:47and I'm glad that it didn't
03:48because I think I probably would have been paranoid
03:50if, if, if, if they knew that I had already,
03:53you know, had a, had a, had a go
03:55in a Wonder Woman project.
03:57Maybe they didn't know at the time.
03:59And, and, and, well, so yeah, I guess I,
04:04I loved making that pilot and I was really sad.
04:07Oh yeah, I was super sad that, that,
04:09that it, that it didn't get picked up the series,
04:11but here we are.
04:12Here you are, exactly.
04:14Well, you get to play Maxwell Lord now,
04:15who I find to be a truly fascinating
04:18and compelling comic book villain, you know,
04:21along the lines of Alex Luthor.
04:22And I just, I wish we had a chance
04:24to spend more time with him
04:25because there's so much of the character to develop.
04:27And so because you do have experience
04:29with longer form episodic television,
04:32what's an aspect of Max that you just wish
04:34you had more time to explore and portray?
04:38It's funny that you asked that
04:39because I think that it was the opposite for me.
04:41I think that there's an opportunity
04:43to really like dive into a really,
04:46a really, really incredible arc of a storyline.
04:50And, and, and the only way to accomplish it,
04:52you know, under Patty's vision was to do it
04:54with a kind of uncompromising honesty.
04:57So I got my fill actually,
04:59more than I have other characters.
05:01That's excellent.
05:02Cause that means it was a rewarding experience.
05:04It felt, it felt, it felt rewarding.
05:07Nothing good is born from lies.
05:12And greatness is not what you think.
05:14There's a moment in this movie
05:15where Steve is standing on top of a truck in the desert
05:18and he turns and punches a soldier
05:20and the Foley mixers use a sound
05:22that I only know as the Indiana Jones punch.
05:26And then I brought it up to Patty
05:27and she mentioned that you guys use Indy
05:29as a reference point for Steve often.
05:31And I was hoping that you could elaborate
05:33on what that means
05:34in terms of how you approach the character.
05:36Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to lie.
05:38I've said it basically about every hero I've ever played
05:41is that Harrison Ford's reluctant hero
05:44is like my touchstone for pretty much,
05:47you know, all of these types of guys.
05:50You have to show a certain amount of vigor.
05:53The humanness of it.
05:54And the fact that he always feels
05:56like he doesn't want to be there,
05:57but he has to be there.
05:59The fact that he'll try his hardest,
06:01but you know, getting hit hurts,
06:03punching hurts, you know.
06:07And that particular sequence always reminded Patty
06:10or reminded me, and I know I talked to Patty about it.
06:13And I think she modeled it
06:14after that famous sequence in Raiders, you know.
06:18So to shoot in the desert with like tanks and stuff
06:20and pretend that I'm Indiana Jones is, you know,
06:24like essentially my dream.
06:28And yeah, I had a whole bit,
06:31I think they cut it out,
06:32but I had a whole bit planned for,
06:35I don't know if they used it,
06:36a whole bit planned for the fighting the guy
06:39on the top of the thing.
06:40And it was like a whack-a-mole
06:42and I'm hitting one guy and his head pops out
06:44and then he disappears and I go look in
06:46and then he pulls me in.
06:48I forget if it remained in the film, but.
06:50The pulling in the hole bit ends,
06:52but not the whack-a-mole.
06:53Yeah.
06:54So that was, I love, you know,
06:57that was, it's always trying to find the comedy
06:59and like, you know,
07:02Trevor thinks that he's one-upped someone
07:04and oh no, he's going to get his ass kicked somehow.
07:08Well, that's neat.
07:09Because of the groundbreaking streaming deal,
07:12a lot of people are going to get to see this movie at home.
07:14On Christmas day, they'll get to press play on it.
07:16But something like The Mandalorian has allowed us
07:19to get used to seeing stuff at home
07:21and better our systems
07:23and really learn how to focus on something
07:25without distractions.
07:26Is that what you've been able to do?
07:28Do you have a system at home that you allow yourself
07:30to like really focus on something?
07:32And do you ever like press play
07:33on your Mandalorian episodes as they drop?
07:35I am very, very, very, very precious
07:38about my TV viewing and my movie experiences.
07:42To the point of being obnoxious,
07:45you'll get kind of kicked out of a room
07:47if you're messing with my movie experience.
07:51It's not a toy.
07:52So I honor that often.
07:56I'll turn off my phone.
07:58Stop touching things.
07:59Why is Paddy the right choice to make a Star Wars film?
08:05Because she's the best.
08:08That's why.
08:09That simple?
08:10Yeah.
08:12I think of anything that she's made.
08:14I mean, you know, Paddy can do anything.
08:17I think, you know, this is,
08:20I think it's a gorgeous compliment to one another.
08:24This is a weird compliment,
08:26but you are my favorite Spider-Man.
08:28I think that you nailed the humor of the character
08:31in a way I've never seen before.
08:32And he's my favorite,
08:33Spider-Man's my favorite character.
08:34And the way that you,
08:35in a short amount of time,
08:36the way you got him to me was majestic.
08:39I appreciate it very much.
08:40I had a lot of fun working on that.
08:41Those guys are great.
08:42And I think what they made was spectacular.
08:45I seem to die.
08:46I have to get in something where I at least don't die.
08:49I think that's my actor challenge for 2021.
08:53No, but you're so good,
08:54we find ways to bring you back each time.
08:56Yeah, right?
08:57It's just going to become ever more ingenious
08:59how you bring me back from the dead.
09:01Oh, Duke Roundhog Day.
09:03Yeah, there you go, sure.
09:04Oh God, you can't fuck with that.
09:05You can't fuck with that.