• 6 months ago
At a Senate Finance Committee hearing earlier this month, Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID) spoke about youth residential treatment facilities.


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00:00Thank you, Senator Wyden, and Ms. Stanford, I'd like to start with you as well.
00:06In your testimony, you indicated that we should not just assume that the model is working
00:14the way it should, that this is the model that we should be using.
00:18And you indicated that a significant amount of the kind of treatment that is referred
00:22to this model could be handled in a home setting with some number of hours a week of counseling
00:29or support outside the home.
00:31Could you expand on that notion a little bit?
00:34Yes.
00:35So I'm not a mental health professional, but absolutely from what we've seen, I think there's
00:39been this assumption that there's constant services and therapy that's being provided
00:44or time for self-reflection inside these facilities, and that's not what we see at all.
00:48It's chaos most of the time, and they're not being engaged.
00:52They're getting very little therapy.
00:54So there's, I mean, there are lots of models out there with different types of therapy
00:58involving the families, involving just the children, but different methods and supports
01:03that could be put in place.
01:04I think what kids need is individualized care, and when you put them in these facilities,
01:09it necessarily becomes about the efficiency of the facility and not the individual care
01:13that can be provided to each kid.
01:15They're all being provided the same thing that is what the model inside that facility
01:20is.
01:21And so just relying, just assuming that these places are providing intensive services and
01:26relying on that without looking further into what it is they're providing or what additional
01:30issues they're creating with the children is a real disservice to the children.
01:35Well, thank you.
01:37And we and each of you have already talked about the notion of the need for much more
01:41aggressive oversight of these facilities, but Ms. Manley, would you agree that, if I
01:46could kind of give a shorthand to what Ms. Stanford was saying, is we're over-utilizing
01:51this model because we should be focusing on getting more kids getting their treatment
01:56at home with the assistance from outside as needed.
01:58Is that something you would agree with?
02:03Absolutely.
02:06Providing good care up front means that many young people can be provided their care in
02:13their own homes.
02:14There are some young people who benefit from short, trauma-responsive, family-engaged residential
02:21interventions that are very close to home.
02:23And you emphasized the word short.
02:26Yes.
02:27And again, I can't remember which of you, several of you, referenced the fact that when
02:33we do, when abuse does happen, that there's concern about how to get it reported.
02:41Ms. Lahren, you indicated that the states and local communities are more in charge of
02:44the oversight than the federal government.
02:47But I think that several of you referenced the fact that whoever's in charge of oversight,
02:54the system, the way it works right now, is one in which the fear of retaliation may cause
02:59a block to being able to conduct that appropriate oversight.
03:04Is that correct?
03:05Ms. Lahren, would you like to comment about that?
03:07Yeah.
03:09That's definitely true.
03:11We talked about barriers to getting good information about how often this occurs.
03:16A big one is fear of retaliation, both by staff who may observe abuse and not want to
03:23report it, and by residents who don't have safe ways to report abuse.
03:28So I've only got about a minute and a half left.
03:31Could each of you take about 30 seconds and tell me how should we improve the oversight
03:36in those cases where children do need to be referred to this type of treatment?
03:41Ms. Lahren, let's start with you and then move down.
03:45While oversight is primarily a state responsibility, we really believe that HHS could do more to,
03:52for example, identify best practices for oversight and share those, facilitate the information
03:58sharing among states.
03:59This is something we've recommended that HHS has not acted on.
04:02Thank you.
04:03Ms. Manley?
04:05At the state level, state understanding of each of the residential interventions, but
04:09more importantly, putting intensive care coordination included for every young person who touches
04:16within residential.
04:17So there's an actual team of individuals who know that young person and spend time with
04:22that young person who can actually report back what is that's happening.
04:26And Ms. Stanford, I want to get to you, but I think Ms. Manley, in your testimony, you
04:29indicated that you thought that family members should be more involved at the facilities.
04:34Is that true?
04:35Yes.
04:36They should have access to young people 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
04:39I think that would help get to the reporting, frankly.
04:43Ms. Stanford?
04:44I think there could be a lot more of a focus on quality of care.
04:47Right now, the minimal federal regulations that relate to these facilities are very specific
04:52and don't overall cover that whether this place is providing a therapeutic environment
04:57or the quality of care or even the level of services that are being provided.
05:01So that information needs to be looked at and shared among states in a manner so people
05:06can see overall what these providers are providing across the nation.
05:11Thank you.
05:12Thank you, Senator Crapo.

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