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Fingers crossed I'll be able to join my philosophy family today....quick question for ya Stefan.....Do selfish people even realize when they are being selfish? Do they see the plain truth when it's pointed out to them? why are people so clueless to their selfish acts and how it causes a cascade of events that otherwise could have been avoided....example maybe volunteering their time to help elderly parents out when they are doing nothing..but others have to step in bc they won't volunteer


Stef, I haven’t found a dedicated show or summation on disassociation. Was disassociation/self distraction something you have dealt with? Is it the same as procrastination, which of course you do have a classic solo show on! Thanks


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00:00:00Good morning, everybody. Welcome to your 23rd of June 2024 Sunday morning philosophy chat.
00:00:09Freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show. We'd really, really appreciate that.
00:00:15And let's see here. Good morning to everyone, James, Tom, beep, bop, Philisack. All right.
00:00:25Good morning. Good morning. Welcome. Looking fine. Greetings from Finland. Hello. Welcome
00:00:29back. Slap a like, leave a tip and get stuck in for philosophy. That's right. We have some
00:00:35exciting things to talk about today. Oh, yes. So, but let's start with you. How are you?
00:00:43How are you? How is your life? How are things in your neck of the woods? And wait, no, that
00:00:49is still a tiny bit there. There we go. Sorry about that. I know. I just want to make sure
00:00:56the video is nice. All right. Quick question for you, Steph. Now, spoiler. Spoiler. Turns
00:01:02out it wasn't a quick question. When somebody says this has been a sort of a constant experience
00:01:06and it's no problem, of course, but it's kind of a constant experience where people say,
00:01:10Steph, just a quick, you know, and then it's just like, yes. Well, it's always a deep,
00:01:18meaningful and, you know, I'm not complaining about the deep, meaningful questions. I'm
00:01:22just saying. And whenever I say, when people say, yeah, quick question for, yeah, Steph,
00:01:30do selfish people even realize when they're being selfish? Do they see the plain truth
00:01:35when it's pointed out to them? Why are people so clueless to their selfish acts and how
00:01:39it causes a cascade of events that otherwise could have been avoided? Example, maybe volunteering
00:01:45their time to help elderly parents out when they're doing nothing, but others have to
00:01:49step in because they won't volunteer. Right. Yeah. Quick question for you. Quick question.
00:01:57Yeah. My wife's like, Hey, quick question. Why, why can I not print to the wireless printer?
00:02:04Because printing is largely an esoteric mystery religion that doesn't exist in the real world.
00:02:12Printing it's actually just easier to hire very small people to sit in a box and write
00:02:17things out quicker, easier. And at least they respond to wireless prompts. I mean, I swear
00:02:23to Lord above, even though I've, I've told the router to reserve an IP address, I constantly
00:02:29have to uninstall and reinstall printers just to get some printing. It's wild. I can't honestly
00:02:34remember the last time that I printed something and it just printed. I remember it was Scott
00:02:38Adams had a problem with one of his printers was going to throw it off his balcony. It's
00:02:42just, and even, even if I've even tried having the printer ethernet wired into the router,
00:02:48doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Windows is just like, no, I'm going to manage it and I'm
00:02:53going to shred it. I had to print some medical records. I don't know which sucks more
00:03:00printing or being sick. Yes, that's right. That's right. Well, greetings from Slovakia.
00:03:08Excellent. Excellent. All right. So tell me, hit me with a number. If you could be so very
00:03:13kind as to indulge me, what is the number of selfish people in your life? I don't mean
00:03:18like doesn't have to be living with you or whatever, but what is the number of selfish
00:03:28people in your life? And, you know, can we just basically go with the definition? We know
00:03:39just, you know, people who don't think of the needs of others, who are just constantly
00:03:42angling for their own benefit, you know, that kind of stuff. Right. We understand that. Zero.
00:03:46Excellent. The worst is when a printer fails, when you're in a hurry, you need to always have
00:03:52a backup printer. So I'll tell you, this is the funny thing about life. I had a dot matrix
00:03:57printer that I attached through a parallel port to my Atari 800 and it never failed. Dot matrix
00:04:11printer. I had a, and whenever I would run low on ink, I still remember, you know, like 45 years
00:04:18later, I still remember the key combo. I had a word processor. Control Z O A four was double
00:04:25spaced and everything bolded because that's what you do is you bold everything when you're
00:04:29running low on printer ink. And it always worked. And now close to half a century later, I have to
00:04:39sacrifice three chicken goats, three chickens, two goats and use their blood to scribe things out
00:04:44because the printer guards don't respond to anything. There are no printer guards. There are
00:04:48only printer devils. That's it. That's all we get. All right. So you got a couple, people say
00:04:56zero. Hmm. Yeah. About 10, including me. Well, that's, that's blunt. That's blunt. All right. So
00:05:10would you like a journey through the mind of a selfish person? I guess some people would say
00:05:16that's every one of my shows. So would you like, would you find it helpful to get a tour through
00:05:27the mind of a selfish person? I just want to make sure I am providing maximum value. And of course
00:05:37you can donate on the app. You can donate on the website, whether it's Locals or Rumble or some
00:05:43other places. And you can of course go to freedom.com slash donate. Freedom.com slash donate
00:05:50to donate there. All right. It looks like a tour through the mind of a selfish person is, is
00:05:56helpful. So human beings do not function without justifications. Human beings do not function
00:06:11without justifications. So I knew someone when I was younger, I was actually just talking about,
00:06:19I was chatting about that with my wife this morning. So I knew somebody, let's just call
00:06:23him Bob, not his real name. I knew someone when I was younger who had a pretty unique
00:06:29perspective on relationships. So Bob had the perspective that the purpose of relationships
00:06:37was to be challenged. Right? So if you're, if you're dating someone, they have to challenge
00:06:43you, right? They have to attack your defenses. They have to unravel your delusions. They have
00:06:48to get you to the naked, brutal, ugly core of yourself. And all couples that smiled and enjoyed
00:06:55each other's company and got along were avoidant. They were avoiding conflict. Conflict is absolute
00:07:01and necessary and functional. And that's the point of an entire relationship. There's going
00:07:05to be this combat that somehow polishes you into a fine sheen of God-like perfection.
00:07:13And all of the couples who enjoy each other's company, don't fight and get along. Well,
00:07:17you see, they have this seething conflict deep down, but they're wallpapering it over.
00:07:23They're just burying their conflict and they're smiling and getting along. And of course the
00:07:29general idea then is, you know, it's the bottle up concept. You know, they're just bottling up
00:07:36their conflict. Thank you for the tips. They're just bottling up their conflict. And it's going
00:07:41to come out in some horrible way if you don't regularly, what he referred, Bob referred to it
00:07:46as bleed the venom. You have to bleed the venom. So the idea is you get backed up with this venom
00:07:52and there's this, and you get backed up and you just have to bleed it out. And it was a whole
00:07:59philosophy. It was really quite wild. And the idea was that you're really harsh and ugly with people,
00:08:05but that's just being honest and direct. And if they have any problem with that, if they push
00:08:09back on that at all, if they don't like that, well, don't you know, they're being avoidant and
00:08:16defensive, right? So yeah, Bob could really go for people. And if they didn't like that, then they
00:08:23were just being avoidant and defensive. So if you refuse to submit to various kinds of verbal
00:08:28attacks, you were being immature, avoidant, defensive, and there was something wrong with you.
00:08:35You were you were wimping out, you were, you know, backing away, you were, you were a coward, if you
00:08:40didn't submit to these sort of occasional eruptions of verbal lacerations. I kind of laugh
00:08:45because, you know, it's funny in hindsight, wasn't super funny at the time. But you know, this is a
00:08:50long time ago now. So what is it tragedy is comedy, comedy is tragedy plus time. So there was
00:08:58this general idea. So he was an aggressive, punchy person, always restless, never able to really
00:09:05relax and enjoy his own company. So he was always punchy and aggressive. And lo and behold, lo and
00:09:11behold, he had a justification for it. Life is punchiness and aggression. And if if you don't
00:09:20indulge in that, you're just not alive. You're not you're not being real, authentic, honest. It's
00:09:24a sort of combination of the two plays, who's afraid of Virginia Woolf. And look back in anger.
00:09:34Look back in anger, just lacerations of verbal abuse that are justified with appeals to brutal
00:09:40honesty and authenticity. And anybody who recoils from this aggression is a coward unwilling to
00:09:47face their own demons that you know, just that so human beings cannot exist without
00:09:52justifications. We cannot act without justifications. All right, let me just check in
00:10:01with you all here. contention is of the devil. Yeah. Oh, look, Bob's always right. Yeah. Sounds
00:10:11like a New Yorker. Yeah, to some degree, right? I would go out of my way to avoid someone like
00:10:14that. You're an introvert. Well, I mean, honestly, it wouldn't just be because you're an
00:10:18introvert, it would be because you're not self self harm is this is this a methodology or a an
00:10:27idea that is going to result in self harm. So selfish people do not refer to themselves as
00:10:39selfish. Or if they do, they say that that is the default position of mankind. And anybody who
00:10:50claims otherwise, is lying. That everyone, everyone is selfish, everyone is selfish. And
00:10:59anybody who claims to not be selfish, is lying. Thank you for the tip, Vince, I appreciate that.
00:11:13All is predation. And anybody who claims to not be a predator is both a predator and a liar, as
00:11:19well. Right. So there's this brutal authenticity paradigm, right? Well, I, everybody just looks out
00:11:27for their own self interest. And everybody's what you would call selfish. That's just life. That's
00:11:32the nature of the beast. And anyone who denies their selfishness, or appears to be selfless, is
00:11:40just a lying manipulator, who's both selfish, since that's human nature, and a manipulative liar, at
00:11:49least I'm Oh, I'm honest about my selfishness, these people say, and I'm not pretending to be
00:11:54something I'm not in the same way that people say that people say, well, relationships are
00:12:02conflict, relationships are battles. And anybody who is not fighting is not really in a relationship
00:12:10and is avoiding the necessary conflict by which you get polished. All right. Let me just check on
00:12:16the messages here. Has the e-shaming started yet? Oh, and this person who says has the e-shaming
00:12:25started yet is actually demonstrating this. All humans are selfish. Right. So the and that's a
00:12:32beautiful car. And that's a beautiful like, thank you so much.
00:12:35Thank you. Everyone is self interested. Correct. Any one states anything else is evil. So this
00:12:50person says this is a fantastic Thank you so much. This is from the guy runnable. I really appreciate
00:12:55this is wonderful demonstration. Absolutely. Excuse me, wonderful demonstration. Has the
00:13:01e-shaming started yet? All humans are selfish. So if he believes that all humans are selfish, then
00:13:07clearly, I would be selfish by what he calls e-shaming. Right. So if everyone is selfish, then
00:13:16he shouldn't have a problem with e-shaming. Right. But of course, he has a problem with e-shaming.
00:13:22Which means he doesn't want to pay and he wants to consume my work and my material. You know, this
00:13:28this, the beautiful camera, I have a separate zoom audio recorder. I have a very expensive amp, a
00:13:39very expensive microphone. And of course, I have 40 years study, 45 years study into the realm of
00:13:45philosophy. Now 42, let's be fair, 57 to 15. So he wants all of that. And he doesn't want to kick in
00:13:54any, right. So he's a taker. And he says, and he's trying to manage what it is that I do by by saying
00:14:01when I ask for donations, because things cost money, people cost money, camera equipment,
00:14:07bandwidth, my time, books, study, everything costs money. And so when I say, I appreciate donations,
00:14:16he says, you're shaming me. So what he's saying is, I want stuff for free. And I don't want to feel
00:14:22bad by taking all of your work, and giving nothing, taking all of your effort, all of your work, and
00:14:31giving nothing. So he's saying, has the e-shaming started yet? Now he's trying to get me to think,
00:14:37Oh, no, well, I don't want to shame people. So I guess I won't ask for any support for the show. Oh,
00:14:43no. But of course, and so it's a wonderful, I mean, I think the thank you, beautiful, you couldn't,
00:14:50you couldn't do it, you couldn't do it any better. So he's saying everyone is selfish, by which case,
00:14:56then I should not at all be shamed for what we he would call e-shaming, because I'm selfish or
00:15:00whatever, right. So he is saying all humans are selfish. But he's assuming that I don't want to
00:15:05shame people. And therefore I care about my audience. And he's using the break in his own
00:15:10philosophy that all humans are selfish to try and control my behavior. So he doesn't have to give
00:15:19up any resources in exchange of value for value, right? Value for value, right? I mean, we try to
00:15:29treat each other as adults here, right? As adults with responsibility. I mean, I think it's a good
00:15:34thing in life to be an adult with responsibility. And so it is important to trade value for value in
00:15:50relationships. So, so he says, I would think he would be providing all his knowledge for the
00:16:01betterment of humanity. Oh, so everyone's selfish, my friend, but I should be acting in a selfless
00:16:10manner. Oh, I love you. I love you. Thank you so much for demonstrating exactly like you couldn't
00:16:17honestly, I couldn't pay somebody to demonstrate things more perfectly. I'm not paying him. But he's
00:16:23like, everyone is selfish. But I think Steph, you would be providing all of your wisdom and knowledge
00:16:29for the betterment of humanity in a selfless fashion. That's beautiful, man. Oh, everyone's
00:16:38selfish. Steph, I'm going to appeal to your selflessness. Damn it. That is glorious and gorgeous.
00:16:46And absolutely very, very funny. Yeah, the employees as well. Yeah. I mean, this is where we're getting
00:16:52all of these wonderful, wonderful things from. So that is, I mean, do you understand like you see
00:16:58these, these absolutely, absolutely sad and pitiful and obvious manipulations, right? Everyone is
00:17:11self-interested, he says. Correct. Anyone who states anything else is evil. So anyone who says that
00:17:20selfless, anyone who says that a human being can be selfless is evil. And then he says, Steph, you
00:17:25should selflessly provide all of your philosophical wisdom for the betterment of humanity for nothing.
00:17:33You know, he doesn't even notice. Probably doesn't even notice. Probably doesn't even notice. So
00:17:41anyone, this guy says, anyone who claims that such a thing as selflessness is evil, and then he tries to
00:17:47appeal to my selflessness. I'm sorry, I know I'm laughing. I know that there's a lot of, there's a
00:17:56lot of personal agony in this, right? This is somebody, and you know, with all seriousness, I
00:18:01mean, this is a person who was absolutely tragically and catastrophically exploited as a
00:18:07child. And he had to internalize that everyone is selfish in order to survive how terribly he was
00:18:16abused as a child. So I mean, philosophically, it's funny. Psychologically, I mean, it's
00:18:22absolutely, absolutely tragic. Absolutely tragic. Funny how he calls out e-shaming and mockingly
00:18:30calls you Steffy. Is that what, did he call me that? I don't particularly care, but maybe I,
00:18:37maybe I missed that. What did he say?
00:18:42Oh yeah, Steffy. Yeah, he did. You're a Steffy. Oh, that's such a philosophical argument.
00:18:51Steffy, you have no feelings, don't you know? The spirit is willing to bank less so.
00:18:56I was listening to some of your very early podcasts while I was on a long road trip.
00:19:06The content was great. The sound quality was entertaining. Your car signals and other noises
00:19:09were keeping me on edge at times. Yeah, it's like Friends of Mr. Cairo by John Evangelos,
00:19:14which starts with a siren and a car crash. Don't listen to that necessarily in your road.
00:19:21Sounds like my workplace. Work extra hours for no additional pay. No,
00:19:25it's worse than your workplace. This is like work for me for free.
00:19:29All right. Steff, I haven't found a dedicated show on, or a summation on dissociation.
00:19:36Was dissociation, self-distraction something you have dealt with? Is it the same as procrastination,
00:19:41which of course you do have a classic solo show on? Thanks. So I'm here to solve selfishness
00:19:48and dissociation. Is that, that's the plan? That's fine. That's a fine plan.
00:19:55That's a fine plan. I don't deal too much with dissociation.
00:20:02And I'll get back to the selfishness. Somebody says, I had friends like this. Now that most of
00:20:06my old friend group are in their late 30s and early 40s, I can see that the ones who thought
00:20:09the worst of humanity when we were teens are miserable and or drug addicted now.
00:20:14And they have nothing but excuses and even have an edge of malevolence towards people
00:20:17who are doing well. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's very rare. It's very dangerous.
00:20:22It's so rare to come across a troll around this community.
00:20:26Somebody says, how do you know when people are lying to you?
00:20:31I'm doing a volunteer work for people who are addicts. How do I sniff out lies and
00:20:35manipulations from addicts to get the medication they want? How do I distinguish between a genuine
00:20:39request and an untruthful one? So I'm here to solve selfishness, dissociation, and lying.
00:20:46All right. Challenge accepted. Bonjour, Stéphane. Caught you live on my way to church. Going to be
00:20:53honest, your sermons are 300% better than my priest's. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
00:20:59I appreciate that. E-begging, an old favorite, eh? Am I selfish to expect to be paid to slap
00:21:04on the uniform and expect to be paid to go to work? Landlords, utilities, grocery stores have
00:21:08this weird hangup about actually being given money. Or should money be in quotes? Digital
00:21:12representations of fiat currency, but you get the point. Yes, yes, yes. It is tough when people ask
00:21:19for reciprocity. It challenges people's desire and willingness to exploit others, right?
00:21:28Thank you, Sol H. I appreciate that.
00:21:31Stephie is a term of endearment. No, that's just a lie. Because if you are fond of me,
00:21:39then you wouldn't say, has the e-shaming started yet? So you're just a liar. And I really sympathize
00:21:45with that. Like, what a terrible childhood and what a terrible life you must have
00:21:48to just automatically and reflexively go to lying your freaking teeth off. Like, that's really tough.
00:21:54So he says, Stephie is a term of endearment, when right after he called me Stephie, he said,
00:22:01has the e-shaming started yet? So, like, I'm sorry, you're in the place in life where you just lie
00:22:08in the moment to have some petty, retarded victory in the moment. And it's really sad. I'm really sad.
00:22:15You know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
00:22:20I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
00:22:23I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
00:22:25I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
00:22:27I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
00:22:29I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
00:22:31I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I
00:23:01my parents immoral or is everyone like that are my parents immoral or is
00:23:11everyone like that so how did I escape what my parents did to me because I did
00:23:24not ascribe their behavior to anything other than their own individual choices
00:23:30oh you gotta get the deep drilling of this man I did this in a call in
00:23:36yesterday I'll release it at some point with a fellow who had gone through a
00:23:39terrible divorce so my mother was a violent and mystical and is I'm sure
00:23:48still and why was she that way why was she that way now if I were to say that's
00:23:59female nature well I can never fall in love with a woman right if I say well
00:24:05that's how parents are then I would be given myself permission to be an a-hole
00:24:10parent if I say well it was capitalism that forced her to try to work well then
00:24:18I turn into a totalitarian socialist and endanger the lives of hundreds of
00:24:23millions of people and in fact we'll get tens of millions of people killed which
00:24:27is what happens under socialism and communism if I were to say well she was
00:24:34a single mother and you know you excuses or my father betrayed her and she was a
00:24:37victim and blah blah blah blah blah then I'm gonna have a soft spot and a
00:24:41sympathetic spot for abusive women because they're victims though right so
00:24:46if I am going to try and ascribe any causality to my mother's immorality
00:24:52then that shit sticks to me like burrs on an elk and follows me wherever I go
00:24:57and grows in my soul until it eats my soul whole straight-up facts so if you
00:25:09grow up with selfish parents you have a question are my parents immoral as
00:25:15individuals or is that is there some external causality to what they do now
00:25:22the whole point of free will is there is no external causality that's the point
00:25:27of free will if it's external causality it's not free will right you can choose
00:25:32to push someone off a cliff that's a choice that person cannot choose whether
00:25:36or not to fall they don't sort of scamper in the air Flintstones style
00:25:39so are my parents immoral as the result of some external category external well
00:25:58they were stressed okay so if you say people can be immoral when they're
00:26:04stressed or that's an explanation or an excuse what happens to you when you're
00:26:09stressed you can be an asshole to people my parents were bad because they
00:26:14were stressed oh no I'm stressed okay right
00:26:19permission slips to others are command orders to you whatever you excuse in
00:26:26others you order for yourself excuses for others are train tracks for you you
00:26:32lose your free will because you're taking away free will from others by
00:26:36giving them external causes for their decisions and therefore you have
00:26:39destroyed your own free will and you become an easily programmed NPC
00:26:51you learn your ABCs and you learn your NPCs so if your parents are selfish can
00:27:01you say my parents made the choice to be selfish it's individual to them it's not
00:27:07in the category of male female parent modern life capitalism determinism
00:27:13external factors stress maybe they had medical problems made the financial
00:27:17problems it no they made the choice they made the choice they made the choice
00:27:26it's specific to them and it speaks to nothing wider or deeper or more broad
00:27:32or more general about humanity as a whole it was them as choices so my
00:27:37mother made bad choices my father made bad choices it was specific to them it
00:27:46speaks nothing to humanity marriage masculinity femininity stressed modern
00:27:53world capitalism it speaks nothing to any of those things nothing so if you
00:28:08have selfish parents what's your choice do you say my parents made bad choices
00:28:14and they chose to be selfish and it was specific an individual to them oh that's
00:28:20painful if your parents were corrupt violent neglectful abusive immoral
00:28:31looking at them and saying you are bad people making bad choices of course
00:28:42what's the other external factor that people always claim and you've heard it
00:28:48a million times on these shows and call-in shows and other places what is
00:28:51the other external factor that people it's the most common external factor
00:28:54that people claim as to why their parents did bad things why did mommy and
00:28:59daddy do bad things what is the external factor what is the most common external
00:29:12factor to explain away bad parental behavior let's while we're waiting for
00:29:25that let's check in with a good friend runnable he says all my comments are my
00:29:30opinions nope they're not you're claiming universal facts about human
00:29:33nature so that's just another lie I'm afraid no one has free will human brain
00:29:42is structural entity with design behavior Steph was not loved by his
00:29:50mommy and his spurned owner abandoned him and now spends his time on the web
00:29:54seeking universal love oh so yeah cheap psychologizing so he says nobody has
00:30:01free will and yet he says that my behavior is bad because I'm a shaming
00:30:06again it's just nothing but contradictions and there's a lot of
00:30:11rage down here it's very toxic and maybe in fact unrecoverable for the
00:30:15person I mean if he's been like this for a long time there's probably nothing
00:30:19left so as to what is the most common way that children explain their parents
00:30:29bad behavior they had a bad childhood no because you don't know that usually as a
00:30:32kid they didn't have it easy themselves their parents they had it worse they had
00:30:36it worse my parents did it too right this troll taking away from good
00:30:44meaningful conversations no no I don't think so I don't think so this is very
00:30:47very important somebody says I asked my father why he initiated the divorce and
00:30:51it pretty much came down to him being sick of our mother taking talking down
00:30:54to him and nagging him sweep up our whole family because he couldn't take it
00:30:57anymore thanks dad yes we're getting there we're getting there yes this
00:31:06person wins the prize this person wins the prize what is it Kaylee
00:31:16Kelly yes the most common explanation for immoral parenting is I was a wild
00:31:27kid I was a bad kid I provoked them I didn't listen I got a
00:31:32feeling with a bad crowd I didn't study at school I write the most common
00:31:37explanation as to why parents are immoral is that you the child were bad
00:31:46right now you the child were bad I was a difficult child I was a difficult child
00:32:03so the funny thing is this person is well runnable this that means a bit of a
00:32:09troll right now spends his time on the web seeking universal love so do you
00:32:16think I've been successful it just being loved by the world if what it is that I
00:32:20do doesn't everyone just love me so much because you know I just clearly I mean
00:32:25I'm I'm just needing the universal love because I wasn't loved by mommy and
00:32:28daddy so clearly I've been excellent out here trying to get universal love
00:32:34you know you can just read what people say about me and you can see all the
00:32:37love come pouring in yeah people say I gave my mother such a hard time as a kid
00:32:42I didn't listen I was a wild kid and all of that right why was my mother bad well
00:32:49my mother was only reacting to my badness which made her a good she was
00:32:51trying to control and manage my badness right and that's the problem right and
00:32:59that's the problem I was the problem my mother wasn't the problem so then it's
00:33:08not my mother who was selfish and abusive it was me who was bad and
00:33:11disobedient if you want to be universally loved give money away well I
00:33:22understand what you're saying but it's not real right it's not real you give
00:33:31money away you just create dependence and resentment and you break people
00:33:46yeah see what happens when you stop our troll says most parents do not care
00:33:54about do not care most kids are accidents of social conditioning and
00:33:57lack of sexual discipline but if people have no free will you can't have a lack
00:34:05of sexual discipline I don't I don't consider an amoeba performing mitosis or
00:34:10meiosis to have a lack of sexual discipline it's funny right it's funny
00:34:15I said that James says I once commented on my father's rather constant angry
00:34:22tirades and he claimed it was righteous anger meaning of course I was bad lots
00:34:26of ways to say yeah for sure righteous anger yeah yeah my mother refused to
00:34:32admit that she did anything wrong and when it became absolutely inescapable it
00:34:36was the fault of her doctors who poisoned her and bla bla bla bla bla right Epstein
00:34:42Barr chronic fatigue you know the whole trotting out of stuff by which she takes
00:34:49no responsibility and people who don't take responsibility are some of the most
00:34:54toxic environmental toxins around I took my four-month-old to see my
00:35:04husband's relatives says this one the first thing they asked me is if she was
00:35:09being good what does that mean mean for a four-month-old then they said my
00:35:13husband was a nightmare when he was little yes I'm sorry about that I'm not
00:35:30sure I personally wouldn't I personally wouldn't have my child around people who
00:35:36thought that four months old could be immoral and would need to be punished I
00:35:39wouldn't have my child in that environment at all any more than I
00:35:43enjoy somebody blowing cigar smoke up the nose of my baby like no thanks no
00:35:49thank you oh yeah don't forget peaceful parenting
00:35:52calm I put it right here peaceful parenting calm
00:36:01explanations versus excuses reasons is difficult for me at the moment to fully
00:36:04understand I remember you saying you were an absolutist not accepting excuses
00:36:07and agree that's the proper approach yes yes yes stimulus response right now
00:36:20I I don't particularly mind if people say there's no such thing as better
00:36:25behavior good or bad right or wrong unless the hypocrites
00:36:31so it's if you say well I did the best I could but the knowledge I had as a
00:36:40parent then you obviously never punished your children because they're doing the
00:36:44best they can with the knowledge they had as children right so what happens
00:36:49that the problem is when you inflict brutal absolutes on your children
00:36:53regarding good and bad behavior but then when you get criticized for your bad
00:36:58you have all the excuses in the known universe right so your children get no
00:37:03excuses but you as a parent get excuses that I can't do that I can't do that I
00:37:14can't do that I won't support
00:37:21so
00:37:28oh he's very fascinating he's very fascinating the irony of Steffi gets
00:37:37divorced and needs to move in with his mother I will tell you this for
00:37:44absolutely certain I will never get divorced and I'm never moving back in
00:37:48with my mother I could tell you this for absolute certain I'd rather live under a
00:37:53bridge so yeah selfish people they don't think they're being selfish they
00:38:00say everyone is selfish and anyone who denies it is a hypocrite everyone is
00:38:04selfish and everyone who denies that is a lying and a hypocrite so I this is
00:38:09what they say I know the true depth and core and reality of humanity and anybody
00:38:20who claims otherwise is a fool and a liar so it'd be like if you came across
00:38:24someone with a snake oil right with some fake cure and and this person said drink
00:38:33my happy juice and you'll be immortal right drink my happy juice and you'll be
00:38:41immortal now of course you know that human beings are mortal we die and you
00:38:46don't get immortality from a little bottle of questionable liquid handed out
00:38:55from the back of a windowless van in a Walmart parking lot why do people use
00:39:04irritating pet names my brother tries that and drives me up the wall
00:39:07irritating pet names are there to attempt to provoke your inner child
00:39:12right so they they Steffy you know is is a term that is designed to make me
00:39:18feel a young and helpless and they're big and powerful right it's like when
00:39:22people come in and say so kids you know I like that they're just trying to
00:39:25program you to respond in a helpless and infantile manner while they get all the
00:39:32power it's really pathetic in a transparent ploy of power grabbing so if
00:39:46you saw someone or someone came to you and said oh I'm just about to go and
00:39:52spend a thousand dollars on this little bottle of sparkly liquid that's gonna
00:39:57make me immortal you would say that's a con people are mortal and you don't get
00:40:02immortality by spending a thousand bucks buying some sparkly liquid at the
00:40:06back of a van in a Walmart parking lot right so you understand for cynics and
00:40:17selfishness that is justified is just cynicism so for cynics all claims to
00:40:24virtue independence free will integrity love beauty truth all claims to a
00:40:29positive state are the offering of immortality for a thousand bucks it's a
00:40:37con the fact is according to the cynics human beings are terrible and the most
00:40:44terrible people are the ones claiming otherwise human beings are mortal and
00:40:51anyone trying to sell you immortality is conning you right human beings are
00:40:57terrible and anyone trying to sell you virtue is conning you they reserve their
00:41:03greatest cynical attacks to those who claim that cynicism is a state of mind
00:41:13that is erroneous to human nature is false is wrong so selfish people say
00:41:20selfishness is like mortality anyone who tells you they can overcome it is a con
00:41:25man stealing from you by denying reality
00:41:32does that make sense
00:41:38kind of like when my older sister would send my brother into emasculated rage by
00:41:42dressing him as princess when we were kids yes yes that's not very pretty at
00:41:49all
00:41:52thank you see to spark I appreciate that it's very kind
00:42:08so
00:42:16cynics believe in selfishness as an essential characteristic of humanity in
00:42:25the same way that you accept mortality as an essential aspect of humanity it is
00:42:34true
00:42:37emasculation tests are funny when you're confident in yourself yeah they are my
00:42:46mother-in-law uses the term boy and I've had to explain why I don't like that
00:42:49term for me as a man
00:42:53oh gosh I'm sorry about that
00:42:58somebody says you can claim being a faithful Christian is only something I
00:43:00do because it makes me happy versus not doing it is that selfless or selfish I
00:43:05know of no other reason to be good but because we want to be good how one
00:43:09should define that sounds like a subject for an essay by psychologists and moral
00:43:13philosophers I don't know if it is practical to talk about
00:43:22she'll say the term boy is a term of endearment well then just refer to his
00:43:26chick hey chick how's it going hey chicky-poo how are you right and she'll
00:43:31bristle at the disrespect obviously right it's like wait sorry you call me
00:43:35boy I call you chick what's wrong with that
00:43:38oh it's different
00:43:50alright oh you used bitch actually that might be slightly more aggressive than
00:43:55boy but alright okay so yeah I hope we've gotten as far as selfishness goes
00:44:01nope they're not selfish they don't they don't view themselves as selfish they
00:44:05just view everyone as selfish and anyone who claims otherwise is both selfish and
00:44:12an exploitive liar alright Steph I haven't found a dedicated show or
00:44:17summation of dissociation was dissociation or self-distraction
00:44:20something you have dealt with is it the same as procrastination which of course
00:44:24you do have a classic solo show on thanks no procrastination and
00:44:27dissociation are not the same thing dissociation results from impossibility
00:44:33dissociation results from you cannot figure out how to give the right answer
00:44:42to avoid being brutalized or attacked or punished or abused or neglected or
00:44:47something like that right dissociation is when you are put in impossible
00:44:54situations there's no right outcome there's no good outcome there's no
00:45:01correct answer and therefore what is demanded is that you cease to exist it
00:45:07is a form not of abuse in particular but of what Sheingold used to call soul
00:45:11murder you can't win so I've mentioned this before my mother would give me
00:45:21confusing instructions very rapidly and then she would expect something to be
00:45:27done to perfection now giving people giving I mean this would happen when I
00:45:35was six seven eight years old and onwards so being given confused
00:45:38instructions I need you to carry the plates from here and wash them here and
00:45:44put them over here and then put the spoons in over there and then do this
00:45:47then do it like all of this stuff right all these confusing instructions rapidly
00:45:51delivered and I wouldn't know what to do so of course if you don't know what
00:45:58to do normally the sane sensible thing to do is to go and say I'm sorry I didn't
00:46:03I'm gonna write this down or I couldn't figure this out or whatever right so I
00:46:09would try to do it I'd and she's like you're doing it wrong it's like well I
00:46:14I'm sorry I don't quite remember well weren't you listening just do it right
00:46:19so I could and if I did ask for clarification eventually she might
00:46:24grudgingly give it fine okay I'll tell you again and then she'd run through it
00:46:29even faster you know so you can't you can't win in that situation you can't
00:46:34complete the task you can't ask for help you can't ask for clarification you can't
00:46:40ask for repetition and you can't complete the task it's an impossible
00:46:44situation so what do you do you can't you can't win right I remember reading
00:46:49this book and if anybody ever figures out the title let me know it was a book
00:46:53about a woman a girl a teenage girl she was in high school and she had an eating
00:46:59disorder and the eating disorder came about because of an impossible situation
00:47:05so she was late going to her math class she was almost at the math class and she
00:47:10realized she'd left her math textbook in her locker and so she could not go
00:47:15to the math class without her textbook because she'd be punished but if she
00:47:18went back to get her in math textbook from her locker then she would be
00:47:21punished for being late and so she basically just had a mental breakdown
00:47:26and sat against slouched against the wall and stopped the object was to fail
00:47:35the task the object was to put me in an impossible situation so that I could
00:47:43have no trust in myself
00:47:52I mean the law is like this right I mean I've read about this with the lawyer in
00:47:57my novel the future which you should really check out at freedomain.com
00:48:01slash books but I write about this the law is like that I mean you have
00:48:05hundreds of law books which often contradict each other and you have to
00:48:10obey the law now totalitarianism is not strict laws it's random laws right
00:48:18enforcement for our enemies avoidance and forgiveness for our friends yeah
00:48:25they give instructions that are unclear get mad when you ask for clarification
00:48:28after you're done they say you didn't do it right right and say I'll just do
00:48:33it right that the goal is to make you feel a stupid and incompetent right so
00:48:41that they can feel better by being quote smarter and more efficient than a
00:48:48confused six-year-old
00:48:52my somebody says my dad would always freak out at me for not knowing
00:49:00something I was never taught and I would tell him that and he would get more mad
00:49:04that I would even ask how right so the guy I was talking to last night had two
00:49:10very powerful call-in shows yesterday one with a guy who'd gone through a
00:49:14brutal brutal divorce I mean to sort of figure out why and the other was a guy
00:49:18who lost millions of dollars in crypto and ended up in debt in his early 20s it
00:49:25was a wild what a conversation that was to try and dig into why he did all of
00:49:30that it's not accidental so for instance this guy the Australian guy I was
00:49:37talking to yesterday I'm not exactly outing him because the
00:49:40accents right there but he his father would say to him only an idiot makes the
00:49:53same mistake twice right if he did something wrong or what only an idiot
00:49:59makes the same mistake twice and yet he also said that his father had endless
00:50:06arguments tens of thousands of stupid pointless petty fights with his wife
00:50:12only an idiot makes the same mistake twice then why do you keep arguing
00:50:18with your wife when it goes nowhere right it's just all these wild
00:50:20contradictions right just wild contradictions so dissociation occurs
00:50:26when you can't win it you cannot cannot cannot win there is no good answer it's
00:50:35impossible you can't go into the math class without your textbook but you
00:50:38can't go back and get your textbook because then you'll be late and be
00:50:42punished for that there's no winning you can't win so when you can't win you
00:50:50dissociate now I mean what was helpful with my mother in particular was that
00:51:01she was such an obvious failure at life that I just couldn't take anything she
00:51:04said seriously it's a lot tougher for the kids who have a high-functioning
00:51:10abusers like you know they're lawyers and doctors and like the high-functioning
00:51:13lots of social setups right
00:51:26all right
00:51:30I mean just get your he's still doing his Steffi right I think sometimes
00:51:42parents are so focused on taking care of things around the children that the
00:51:45children have no concept that the parents are short and non thinking
00:51:48towards the children I don't quite follow that so so yeah dissociation is
00:51:55is when there's there's no possible way to win so it's a really great actor who
00:52:04plays Maximus in the prime show fallout and he is dragged in to be interrogated
00:52:14and he is just frozen because he doesn't know the right answer to not get killed
00:52:20or punished or ostracized or which I guess is being killed and he just is is
00:52:27frozen and he's just frozen because there's no way and you don't know what
00:52:36to say there was a was it some Castle Wolfenstein video game where this you
00:52:45know evil German SS Nazi woman is putting these pictures down and tell me
00:52:51what you see and you don't know what the answer is you don't know what she's
00:52:53looking for
00:53:00and of course later on somebody says these pictures are meaningless she's not
00:53:03looking for anything there's no winning there's no right somebody says I can
00:53:09attest to that my dad was pretty successful in high intelligence yeah no
00:53:13my dad was successful in many ways in his career got a PhD and was a
00:53:16geologist an impossible situation is right or at least it currently feels
00:53:21that way shit I need to schedule a private call and thanks def free domain
00:53:25comm slash call happy to help I might have to book a little ways down it's a
00:53:32lot of people want those which I appreciate
00:53:38you so does that make sense for dissociation when you are dissociating
00:53:49you're in a situation where you can't win can't navigate and we're not
00:53:53designed for that or a bit designed for action but designed to solve problems
00:53:56get things right get things sorted and you can't eat in your book the present
00:54:02majority of the people just sit down and wait is this dissociation yeah you know
00:54:16you'd be surprised I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who
00:54:22don't really want to live
00:54:27they don't really enjoy life life is a burden
00:54:35life is pain and more pain they have an undertow of despair depression and
00:54:48they're hunted eternally across the bleak landscape of their bad decisions
00:54:54by an un-fucking-relenting conscience they're restless they can't relax they
00:55:01need constant stimulation they need to go out they can't sit home alone they
00:55:05have to watch something read something scroll something play video games
00:55:08pornography dating they have to do something anything because the questing
00:55:15beast of their own conscience is hunting them forever and ever amen you'd
00:55:19be absolutely shocked I think deep down if you knew how many people don't really
00:55:31want to live this is why I don't mess with anyone in traffic oh yeah I assume
00:55:38that everyone in traffic is is drunken on their phone
00:55:45yeah somebody says yes since the suicide of my brother confronting my parents
00:55:55truly feels impossible I think it would kill them they probably dissociate more
00:55:58than me well it's probably the dissociation and the lack of bonding
00:56:02that may have led to your brother's suicide of course I don't know but it
00:56:06could be something like that now how do you know if somebody has thanatos if
00:56:17they have a death wish how do you know if somebody kind of wants to die would
00:56:23you like a quick tip for that would that be helpful again I want to provide
00:56:29maximum value to you how do you know if somebody has an impulse for unaliving
00:56:46their health that can be part of it for sure but that's a bit of a vicious
00:56:50circle because the more the poorer someone's health the more they half in
00:56:58love with easeful death have you ever heard that phrase half in love with
00:57:04easeful death this was a sort of sorry so further a thing from Goethe half in
00:57:10love with easeful death let me just get the the quote here yeah ode to a
00:57:14nightingale right it's a very famous poem
00:57:18duckling I listen and for many a time I have been half in love with easeful
00:57:29death called him soft names in many a mused rhyme to take into the air my
00:57:36quiet breath now more than ever it seems it sorry now more than ever seems it
00:57:43rich to die to cease upon the midnight with no pain while thou art pouring
00:57:51forth thy soul abroad in such ecstasy still wouldst thou sing and I have ears
00:57:59in vain to thy high requiem become a sod is going to the ground half in love
00:58:06with easeful death how do you know when people don't really want to live
00:58:26do you know the Guns and Roses song coma I can't get past the singer man sorry
00:58:30lyric I kind of like it in a coma I don't think I ever want to go back quiet
00:58:35whisper I never really wanted to live right if they do crazy things like jump
00:58:41off airplanes risky behavior yep that certainly is it that's my thought too
00:58:49and why I feel I can't bring it up oh this is regarding your brother's suicide
00:58:52I also feel like I have this death wish at times you stupid things all the time
00:58:55better for a call and thanks again please call in please call in Pauline
00:59:00says I wish you and your delightful family a very good Sunday I'll keep you
00:59:04my prayers since you're very important part of my life I have embarked on this
00:59:06very difficult quest to find truth and meaning you open my eyes and my heart I
00:59:09owe you so much merci from the bottom of my heart mon ami oh thank you Paulina
00:59:14that's Pauline that's lovely I appreciate that
00:59:23the I can't win for dissociation is so simple and useful thank you amazingly
00:59:31the best thing that helped me overcome dissociation was reading about pickup
00:59:33artists using agree and amplify tactic drugs or drowning out their conscience
00:59:37with lies and delusion that can certainly be in all right do you guys
00:59:45mind if we do a quick politics flyby ooh am I breaking my vow it's so relevant to
00:59:54the converse I don't know if you'd be interested in a quick politics flyby
01:00:03hit me with a why if you'd like just a quick brush past the world of politics
01:00:22yes okay
01:00:34well
01:00:41do you know how close the world is drifting towards a world war
01:00:52right the provocations are immense the pressures are immense Russia seems to be
01:01:07unlikely to be allowed to survive and we got subs off Florida you've got troop
01:01:16and in particular naval movements all over the world you got China threatening
01:01:20Taiwan even more intensely I'm Ukraine of course is continuing its blood grind
01:01:26of human disassembly so why do you think people aren't freaking out about this
01:01:42why do you think people aren't freaking out about this it's a bit of a mystery
01:01:57right people freak out about just about everything these days except the
01:02:02potential for a planetary war now for all of his faults and Trump has many the
01:02:25couple of years of peace under Trump was quite something right so people I mean a
01:02:38lot of them were undone by covert for sure which we'll talk about another time
01:02:43but why aren't people freaking out about this I don't believe there will be a
01:02:51world war with nukes around are they just associated they feel helpless so
01:03:01close their mind to it or else maybe they desire the war I mean I'm not saying
01:03:08everyone's gonna get nudes right because the leaders don't want that but there's
01:03:11lots of ways to each war outside of nukes you know the dark truth is a lot
01:03:24of people got excited around covert because their lives were under
01:03:28stimulating why aren't people freaking out about the potential for significant
01:03:38war I didn't selective service just expand to 26 in the u.s. and didn't it
01:03:47also it's not to include women
01:03:51you
01:04:02why are people not freaking out
01:04:22all the people who sort of cheer on these various regional conflicts and get
01:04:28behind and and flags in the bio and like that they're cheering on death and
01:04:33they're cheering on mass slaughter people don't get social approval get
01:04:43mocked for taking things seriously keep the combat show sports and work gossip
01:04:46no absolutely not the amount of moral hysteria that have charged through
01:04:52society has been endless and immense right there are what racist everywhere
01:04:59homophobes everywhere islamophobes everywhere sexist everywhere the amount
01:05:02of moral hysteria in society so people they don't they don't they don't want to
01:05:07deal with this they don't want to deal with no people are constantly charging
01:05:10around with moral hysteria right so it's not that they're not interested in
01:05:22deeper things or morality or ethics or virtue
01:05:40so you know the stories are that people get more and more corrupt false immoral
01:05:57bullying vicious petty and vain and then there is a strike from the heavens right
01:06:08pillars of salt airborne diseases or I guess some cases rat-borne diseases
01:06:18there is the rain that falls in the time of Noah that people summon death and
01:06:27destruction from the very skies from the very air
01:06:31due to their corruption why are people not freaking out I mean they freak out
01:06:49about they freaked out about every made-up piece of nonsense about Trump
01:06:54and all the various things that I talked about in my shows on the untruths
01:07:03about Donald Trump I you know it's a big question I don't know the answer because
01:07:09I don't know that people if people had that degree of self-knowledge they
01:07:13probably wouldn't be in this state half in love with easeful death I mean they
01:07:21were very pro Hillary and Hillary wanted a war with Russia and she wanted
01:07:27a raw war with Iraq and she wanted more escalation I think it was in Syria and
01:07:37people were very pro Hillary Biden was pretty clear about the aggression that
01:07:43they wanted and they wouldn't negotiate and they wanted to escalate I mean
01:07:49there's no there's no in my view there's no way the Ukraine war happens
01:07:54under someone like Trump because they would have continued to talk about
01:07:58expanding eastward and Trump would have said if you expand eastward I'm stopping
01:08:01funding NATO they would I mean in my view right I don't know for sure but
01:08:06that would be the appell wouldn't happen
01:08:09you
01:08:20immorality creates a mind half in love with easeful death you know if we've all
01:08:28done wrong things in her life and you know bad things in her life I'm sorry I
01:08:32shouldn't say I know I have right so but the question is how do people live
01:08:41with a bad conscience
01:08:50and if you've ever known people with a really bad conscience the half in love
01:08:57with easeful death especially when I think deep down people know whether they
01:09:05can fix their bad conscience I think they know that deep down
01:09:10you
01:09:19so if you've got another 40 years to go and you kind of hate yourself what is
01:09:29your perspective on disaster you know to to not be at peace within your own mind
01:09:39is an absolute kind of torture that for those of us who have you know I enjoy
01:09:47my own company if me and my wife and I go out I get that the day or afternoon
01:09:51to myself I enjoy myself and and I'm happy to sit and think or listen to
01:09:59music or do nothing and and it's really nice my mind is a is a fun house like
01:10:05it's a lot of fun I have a I have a good conscience about what I've done in the
01:10:08world and I enjoy my mind my life
01:10:19but if you've ever known people who just are never at peace never at comfort
01:10:27they're just tense and justifying and vain and aggressive and
01:10:38don't underestimate the undertow of half in love with easeful death in the
01:10:44world and maybe in your world too
01:10:52yeah like the end of the world stuff it's very common right it's common in
01:10:56cults it's common in fundamentalist religions the end of the world stuff is
01:10:59very common why would people be so keen on the end of the world or so excited
01:11:05and interested about that topic Mike Cernovich talks about this about how he
01:11:09was raised with this sort of apocalyptic stuff right
01:11:25I mean I saw this you know absolutely brutal video about you know the the rich
01:11:31who fled Ukraine and at the end of it you know one guy was moaning because he
01:11:35was getting a blowjob and another guy was dying in the battlefield and moaning
01:11:39because he was bleeding out it's just like oh my god it's just horrifying
01:11:43which is absolutely horrifying
01:11:49yes so James says in my childhood I knew more than a few abusive parents who
01:11:53were quite invested in rapture and apocalypse expecting it to come every
01:11:55day yeah and I may cause I did all of the shows on Ukraine back in 2014 2015
01:12:03and all of this stuff was predicted
01:12:08most people live lives of quiet desperation they're lonely they're
01:12:24unloved they've given up on virtue they're surrounded by bad lazy trashy
01:12:32dissociated people they consume garbage food they consume garbage media their
01:12:37program and COVID broke people. COVID broke people in ways that will still be
01:12:46being calculated a century from now if we're around to calculate it. COVID showed
01:12:58so many people just how little bond they have with their fellow citizens and how
01:13:02willing and eager they were to join with totalitarian forces against their
01:13:11fellow citizens that just that has broken people and I don't think they're
01:13:14coming back because nobody's talking about it like they're I mean for for
01:13:20people who are hypochondriacs for and I say this with sympathy right it's a
01:13:23tough condition people who hypochondriacs are people who are who
01:13:27tend more towards introversion or who have elements of agoraphobia being
01:13:31locked up for a couple of years and they're not coming back yeah they're
01:13:43not coming back most struck their conscience away with alcohol and weed
01:13:48crack television there is a war in their hearts they externalize via politics
01:14:01somebody says I think a work acquaintance has a death impulse one
01:14:07time he talked about if he was going to go out it would be through pills he
01:14:10constantly has to involve himself in petty conflicts in his personal life to
01:14:13distract himself he's an older guy no kids or family still takes COVID
01:14:17boosters
01:14:19and of course a lot of people a lot of people have known children in their
01:14:36social circle their environment they've been in their extended family or or
01:14:40maybe even closer they've known children who are being abused they have all the
01:14:44science it's all very very clear they've absolutely known children who are being
01:14:48abused and oof man if you don't if you don't do anything about that oh my gosh
01:15:05yeah I cannot get over the glee people had to have power over their fellow
01:15:08citizens yeah
01:15:18when people are unable to correct their course and their course continually
01:15:28leads to disaster they're half in love with disaster in other words disaster is
01:15:32relief see people often like an extremity of an external stimuli because
01:15:37it takes them away from their own conscience right your conscience is a
01:15:41quiet and insistent voice that generally operates in silence conscience needs to
01:15:49be optional because conscience throughout a lot of human history would
01:15:52just get you killed right so conscience needs to be silenced for the sake of
01:15:56survival but it is insistent and returns because conscience is the
01:16:00universalization of the ethics we inflict and we can't destroy the
01:16:04conscience without destroying our capacity for concepts in
01:16:07universalization and abstraction which is our essence of humanity and how we
01:16:11survive
01:16:24so conscience is the shadow cast by our greatest power as humanity to
01:16:32universalize and conceptualize so we can't eliminate conscience it's wound
01:16:36into our UPB brain we can't destroy conscience without destroying all of our
01:16:47concepts because conscience is part of that bound together right we can't
01:16:57destroy our conscience but we do have to be able to quiet our conscience in order
01:17:02to survive a brutal and often hypocritical society do most people
01:17:07even have a conscience looking at current normal behavior I have my doubts
01:17:10there are some people who don't have consciousness of their conscience but
01:17:16conscience is inescapable because it is wound into and bound into our
01:17:24universalization and conceptualization as a whole I say human beings can't live
01:17:30without justifications they can't act morally without justifications even the
01:17:36people who say well I'm just going to take what I want and to hell with
01:17:39everyone else and to do what they wilt and blah blah blah well that's a moral
01:17:42they're saying everyone's like that only I'm just not hypocritical about it so
01:17:45they're still doing what they do
01:17:49and I think that the COVID and people's response to COVID has broken a lot of
01:18:08people's identity and it's very tough because nobody's talking about it so if
01:18:20there's some external drama then this is why people pick fights with each other
01:18:25and why husbands and wives nag at each other why people crap on their kids
01:18:31while people argue online like this guy for like why did they why did they do
01:18:37all of that to quiet their conscience that's what trolls do trolls are trying
01:18:43to quiet their conscience so yeah it's I mean rather than admit that they've been
01:19:00lied to about men women will choose solitude how many families do you think
01:19:08are having honest and direct conversations if they were divided over
01:19:11the vaccine let's say or divided over the danger of COVID how many families do
01:19:17you think are sitting down and saying okay we got a we got to talk about this
01:19:21we got to deal with this I don't want this being a barrier between us going
01:19:24forward things got kind of crazy things got kind of ugly you know you accuse me
01:19:28of killing grandma versus well you just wanted everyone to die because you were
01:19:32too selfish to listen to science like how many families where and a lot of
01:19:36families were split man who just axed right down the middle and split in two
01:19:44and how many families in how many families are people sitting down and
01:19:53saying okay listen things got really really bad and now we have more facts we
01:19:58have more information we have more data and we got a we got to work this out we
01:20:03got to sort this out let's not get up from this table until we've come to some
01:20:07kind of resolution how many people are processing and I talked about this the
01:20:15other day how many people are processing that they hated and feared and wish to
01:20:20strip the rights from the unvaccinated and now the vast majority of people are
01:20:25functionally unvaccinated because they're not taking the boosters and the
01:20:28the facts of the vaccines as far as I my amateur understanding goes we're off for
01:20:33six months or whatever so they're functionally so they're functionally have
01:20:36become the people that they claimed to hate and fear and loathe how many people
01:20:44are processing that they have become what they hated and that's quite complex
01:20:50and needs to be talked about
01:21:04how many people are processing how many reporters how many like how many people
01:21:07in the media are like you know we kind of we kind of got in line there and it
01:21:11turns out that some skeptics had some points I've not seen a story where there
01:21:19was reconciliation post-covid yeah there's no I wonder if that kind of
01:21:26story would get traction well it would it would but people don't want to look
01:21:35in the mirror and say the last four years was kind of like a test and how
01:21:42did I do somebody says my family has split on it but now it's a hidden topic
01:21:49that is never discussed the vaccine enjoys to spend significantly more time
01:21:52in the hospital
01:21:55yeah it's rough man it's rough and the parents if the parents were this way
01:22:19inclined right if the parents who constantly told their kids you gotta
01:22:24fess up if you did something wrong I would I won't I won't be mad at you
01:22:27unless you don't tell me the truth I won't be mad if you if you tell me you
01:22:30lied to me I just be mad if you continue lying to me you gotta tell me the truth
01:22:33you gotta do the right thing you gotta confess when you did something wrong how
01:22:36many of those people who inflicted these standards on their children are
01:22:39following it themselves how many people are saying to the skeptics you might have
01:22:54had a point so somebody says how much of it has to do with years of programming
01:23:06through parental abuse television and public school have people always been
01:23:08like this I don't care listen it's really really important stop trying to
01:23:16figure out causality from liars stop it stop it stop it I'm begging you it is a
01:23:22giant fucking waste of time right stop trying to figure out causality from
01:23:32people who will never tell you the truth if I were to go to my mother and say why
01:23:36did you do what you did she will never tell me the truth because if she was
01:23:46capable of processing the truth she wouldn't have didn't done what she did
01:23:50so so well well maybe people are doing it because of propaganda or maybe people
01:23:54are doing it because of this or maybe people are doing it because of the
01:23:57government everybody gets responsibility everybody everybody do you know why
01:24:04because they demand the right to vote they demand the right to vote and so
01:24:11they get full responsibility that's just basic the basic fact it's a basic fact
01:24:18if you say I absolutely demand the right to cast my vote and determine the future
01:24:26morals ethics and distribution of power and coercion is within society but then
01:24:30you say well but you know I was just a helpless victim of propaganda well you
01:24:33can't have both you can't you want independence you want responsibility you
01:24:40want the right to vote you want all of this that and the other okay then you
01:24:44can't say well but I'm a helpless pawn of the media because if you help us
01:24:48part of the media logically then the voting makes no sense but no I want to
01:24:57vote there okay then you're saying I think for myself and I'm not just
01:25:03helpless pawn of the media so yeah and yeah don't try and figure out causality
01:25:07from people who won't tell you the truth
01:25:14recently been doing that stopping the wondering of why abuse people in my life
01:25:18did what they did doesn't matter and I'll never get a straight answer yeah
01:25:22yeah
01:25:25you
01:25:32see here's the other thing too it's sort of like saying to somebody dying of
01:25:37lung cancer who was a smoker which cigarette killed you right I mean there
01:25:43was a cigarette there is a cigarette that kills you you don't know which one
01:25:46it is right but there is a say and and saying to the smoker well which cigarette
01:25:56which which one if you hadn't smoked that cigarette right you'd have lived
01:25:59you smoked that cigarette now you're dying which cigarette was them how can
01:26:03they answer that
01:26:06you can't answer that see immorality is very rarely one big giant terrible awful
01:26:20wretched decision like movies will give you that stuff you know movies will give
01:26:28you that stuff oh this is one big giant terrible moral decision do I go with obi
01:26:32one Kenobi or not and you know can I trust Han Solo or not or you know like
01:26:36it but that's not the case it's not the case how do people get fat bit by bit
01:26:47bite by bite right how do people end up with muscle softness bit by bit day by
01:26:58day so how do people end up corrupt everybody thinks there's a big fiery
01:27:11devil that comes and offers you something and takes your soul that's not
01:27:14how it happens
01:27:17how do people become corrupt bit by bit little by little step by step I wrote a
01:27:32whole poem about this about the Holocaust when I was in my teens how did
01:27:38they get you to become a torturer in a concentration camp how do they do it
01:27:50well they assigned you to the concentration camp and you're out of
01:27:53earshot and then they move you within earshot and then they move you to the
01:27:59front of the building and then they move you to the inside of the front of the
01:28:01building and then they move you down the hall and then they put you outside the
01:28:04cell door then they put you inside the cell door then they ask you to hand the
01:28:06implements of the torturer and then they ask you to hold the prisoner down
01:28:09and boom you become a torturer how does it happen well if they dragged you from
01:28:14nowhere and said go torture this guy you'd be like whoa no step by step
01:28:18incremental bit by bit yeah this is that this is it's not it's not a big fiery
01:28:28ah you have a fork in the path and this way leads to petition and this way leads
01:28:31to paradise and this way oh no no it's not like that little decisions and the
01:28:36decisions are usually around a little petty things like the avoidance of
01:28:39instincts and I'm just not gonna tell the truth and I'm just gonna ha ha ha
01:28:43right little decisions little decisions little avoidances little compromises
01:28:52little bending the truth little this little that bar
01:28:56you
01:29:03because each little increment is not damning just like each cigarette doesn't
01:29:11kill you but the accumulation you're fucked
01:29:16you know Tom Cruise has a story about I think it was maybe in eyes wide shut or
01:29:25something like that that the director made to meet ten pieces of chocolate
01:29:33cake he got dizzy got sick he threw up and he's like loved it at the beginning
01:29:39right because he had to retake the scene or he kept eating this chocolate cake
01:29:42now Tom Cruise is a lean guy right he's a lean guy so yeah yeah but ten pieces
01:29:48of cake in one sitting so he's fine he's not fat he's not fat you know I'm 98
01:30:00percent off sugar but the other day I was out with my daughter we did a river
01:30:04walk which is where we walk up and down in a river and look for fish and cray
01:30:08fishing it's really fun and we got out of that and I was dying from heat and I
01:30:13had a called a tot ice cream it's a like tiny tiny ice cream oh no I'm back
01:30:20on sugar it's all like no I'm fine I'm fine you can take little badnesses you
01:30:27can you know I mean if you've tried a couple of cigarettes in your life you're
01:30:31not gonna die you have a piece of cheesecake you're not gonna get obese
01:30:38but it's a whole series of bad decisions any one of which you can stop that leads
01:30:44to the terminal rot in the soul and we all know how bad decisions justify bad
01:30:53decisions well I'm already falling off the wagon I might as well get drunk well
01:30:57I've already had a bite of cheesecake what the hell I might as well just have
01:31:00the whole like slippery slope right
01:31:06somebody says I'm having a hard time with how people are all that different
01:31:10after covert it's probably just me it just seems like people are just like
01:31:13before but with a lot less money well they're not like before because there's
01:31:17a massive topic that consumed everyone's life for close to half a decade that
01:31:20they simply won't talk about no that's a big change that's a big change
01:31:31you know I think about this occasionally right that I think of the tens of
01:31:38thousands of hours I spend exercising um I mean I combine it sometimes with
01:31:42listening or work or whatever but yeah I'm like eight hours of exercise a week
01:31:46it's like a half a part-time job right and that doesn't even count the fact
01:31:51there's a walk around doing the show sometimes and call-ins and so on right
01:31:54but yeah I'm I'm in motion and of course I think about the people who don't move
01:32:02and sit around slouch bad posture you know that they've got back problems knee
01:32:07problems hip problems they can't run anywhere they're short of breath and it's
01:32:11like but that's because of every single and you know right now I'm in the payoff
01:32:17or payback right mid late 50s man I'm in the payoff or
01:32:22and this is I'm sending you this message back man massage in a brothel so I'm
01:32:29telling you I'm in the payoff or payback so the people who didn't exercise the
01:32:32people who let themselves get overweight the people with bad drinking habits
01:32:35people who smoked you're getting the payback now boom payback time or payoff
01:32:40if you've been healthy and exercised and strong and all of that right I just right
01:32:45before the show I realized I didn't have my glasses and I'd like to literally had
01:32:50to race up the stairs and it's like I'm 57 I can race up the stairs no problem
01:32:55no problem I went to the pretty fun place activate it's like one of these
01:33:01it's really it's really fun it's it's one of these play areas with lit up
01:33:07floors and you've got a run from floor to floor and and you've got you this you
01:33:12can crawl through lasers and like it's really fun I would actually kind of
01:33:17recommend it myself but it's a lot of fun and I went there and I'm like
01:33:21spending two hours racing and running and rolling and diving and I'm like I'm
01:33:25fine okay a little little little tender on the old hip because you know some of
01:33:28the lunge muscles are not exactly it's been too rainy up here to do much
01:33:31racquet sports but so it's the payoff or the payback right when I got fat it was
01:33:39a slow creep one day you step on the scale and you're like holy crap yeah
01:33:47yeah yeah I'm and if a friend of mine's wife had gained some weight and we'd
01:33:54mentioned it once or twice and then we were going go-karting and they had to
01:33:58weigh her to figure out what kind of go-kart and she was horrified and she
01:34:01lost the way bit by bit by bit
01:34:07bit by bit by bit
01:34:15yeah everybody who wants to wield and benefit from the slippery slope tells
01:34:20you that slippery slope is a fallacy slippery slope is not a fallacy slippery
01:34:24slope is an inevitability because once you break principle things accelerate
01:34:27very quickly after that right this is one of my favorite shows yet had to
01:34:32reload on seapins here soon I don't know what that means but if it is your
01:34:36favorite show and you're enjoying it free domain.com slashed on it I really
01:34:40would appreciate that
01:34:51how does one find for self out of the storm of sin without shelter the parable
01:34:55of the camel who puts his nose in the tent slowly but surely the camel enters
01:34:59the tent and eventually kicks you out into the storm yeah is reconciliation
01:35:04is reconciliation even feasible for the majority that would require them to
01:35:07admit they wanted to use coercion and violence on others solely because they
01:35:10enjoyed the exercise of power admitting that would drive most people to insanity
01:35:14or irresolvable guilt well I mean how much of this was a violation of the
01:35:18Nuremberg Laws which was one of the great benefits to come out of the
01:35:22horrors of Nazism in World War two I always find it strange people want some
01:35:29sort of lightning moment to quit something yeah just make make a better
01:35:35decision and then find a way right one of the few times I can catch a live
01:35:44stream now I get to tip well thank you I appreciate that that's very kind
01:35:53they everybody knows like I saw this I mentioned I saw this play with this
01:35:59woman who would have these various health scares over the course of her
01:36:03life and she said and I would I would make a resolution drink my water eat
01:36:07more vegetables exercise and I would for a while for a while so everybody knows
01:36:16exactly what you need to do everybody knows the right thing to do and the
01:36:20reason people get so volatile towards moralist is not because we're
01:36:23surprising but because we've been ignored
01:36:35the lightning moment is a heart attack or some sort of culmination of
01:36:39consequence yeah but that's not true for everyone because the people half in love
01:36:43with easeful death will come back from a heart attack with vague regret and
01:36:46resume their former terrible habits because they're not super clean on
01:36:51they're not super keen on continuing the aliving why did someone become fat
01:37:01because they made a whole series of bad decisions approximately 20 times a day
01:37:05to eat badly and not eat well and we want some big answer some big
01:37:13explanation oh yeah everybody knows if I used to go to a gym regularly and for
01:37:22years decades and you know yeah first week or two in January it's really busy
01:37:26and then everybody just goes back to being putting plop fat butt on the
01:37:30couch person look at me I'm a pair
01:37:35bro I know like five fat people and you're four of them so I hope I hope
01:37:50that helps what was the last question there was a last question we did
01:37:57selfishness oh yeah how do you know when people are lying to you well how do you
01:38:01know when addicts are lying to you their lips are moving how do you know
01:38:06when addicts are lying to you their lips are moving now why say I'm doing a
01:38:15volunteer work for people who are addicts why why would you do that
01:38:25why would you do that how do I sniff out lies and manipulations from addicts to
01:38:34get the medication they want how do I distinguish between a genuine request or
01:38:39an untruthful one so you understand that addicts have almost infinitely more
01:38:46experience telling lies than you have at uncovering them so what you're doing is
01:38:52you're saying Steph I am playing a game of tennis against the top seeded top
01:39:01ranked tennis player I've been playing for a couple of weeks how do I win the
01:39:06answer is you don't you don't win you can't win how do I out manipulate my own
01:39:15mother who has by this point 70 years experience or 80 years experience in
01:39:19manipulating and I don't but you can't win you know I'm playing a grand master
01:39:24in chess and I've been playing for a month or two how do I win you can't you
01:39:31know a friend of mine has four sons I'm sorry three sons and a daughter and his
01:39:38middle boy is really really keen on chess plays fantastic chess and I'm not
01:39:45a bad chess player the kid was 10 and you know kicked my butt all up and down
01:39:50the board right and it partly because it was my overconfidence is my weakness but
01:39:57he'd memorized all the moves and the possibilities and he just had a real
01:40:00genius for this how do I win the game of chess I can't isn't you know at least
01:40:09half of morality is humility at least half of morality is humility because how
01:40:15often do we get sucked into bad things because we are ridiculously confident of
01:40:22our ability to reshape people's neurons with these silky syllables of our speech
01:40:28my god I mean you've heard the callers
01:40:34yes I've been listening to your show for 350 years and here's the whole series of
01:40:42bad decisions that I made you know you've heard the people whenever I give
01:40:47them a big insight about their life I like what do I do about it now and it's
01:40:50like everybody does the same thing and like oh I knew every day drives me nuts
01:40:54when people do that and here I just did it right
01:40:57so addicts are professional liars and you want to win against them are you
01:41:12kidding me do you know how shameful it would be if you could win at lying with
01:41:17an addict it would mean you were a completely pathological liar who lied
01:41:20even more than an addict why would you want to be around pathological
01:41:27compulsive liars and trying to figure out what the truth is why you can't you
01:41:32can't win
01:41:44huh and why now this is a childhood thing come on we know that right this is
01:41:50a childhood thing
01:41:57you have a desperate need to catch the liars that you grew up with and you're
01:42:05transferring that to the addicts once I have established that someone is a liar
01:42:13I don't make it my job to catch them out until the end of time because I'm not a
01:42:21very good liar I'm not fantastic at figuring out who's lying I mean obvious
01:42:26contradictions are pretty clear to me and I don't want to develop that skill
01:42:30why would I want to develop that skill why would I want to develop the skill to
01:42:35figure out who's a good liar when I don't want liars in my life right that
01:42:44would be like trying to figure out how I can develop an immunity to a certain
01:42:49poison well how about you just don't take the poison is that is that a
01:42:53possibility you know I found a woman who's great fun to live with and to love
01:42:59rather than trying to manage somebody who was really difficult and aggressive
01:43:03and manipulative right I tried that
01:43:09you think you're gonna be better at corruption than corrupt people are you
01:43:13crazy vote harder you can't do that you can't win against them they are hundred
01:43:27and fifty percent committed with decades of experience and you're new to the game
01:43:32and you're gonna get eaten alive how do I out vampire the vampire who's lived
01:43:37for a thousand years you can't a you haven't lived for a thousand years be
01:43:42you're not a vampire can't win
01:43:58the guy who lost millions in crypto had been listening for quite a long time and
01:44:02he would rather lose millions of dollars in crypto then call me up for any advice
01:44:10yes please do try to catch me my lies you totally should invest lots and lots
01:44:16of time into the pursuit fix me yes trust in me just in me yeah yeah that's
01:44:24right James is the car sneaky snake guy right oh come on brothers and sisters
01:44:31tell me this hasn't been a great show somehow okay give me a give me a tip or
01:44:37two all right I know someone who I distanced myself from a smart guy
01:44:40running his own businesses mid-20s but he spends his time trying to convince
01:44:43addicts to stop I told him to look into his childhood history and he was
01:44:46disinterested yeah the real addiction you see somebody trying to fix addicts
01:44:57you think that there's an addict and a non addict in the room nope two addicts
01:45:04in the room one's addicted to a substance the other one is addicted to
01:45:07addicts that's why they generally can't help each other and that's why generally
01:45:12addiction is solved usually by consequences if it's solved at all
01:45:20because the addict when he's done enough bad things with his addiction he's lied
01:45:25to enough people he's told to not so then what crypto coin did the crypto guy
01:45:30buy dogecoin I Joe I will I will hold that in abeyance until the show goes
01:45:37out I think it's easier to see the problems in other people's lives than to
01:45:44look at your own self-improvement is unbelievably hard and painful correcting
01:45:47others is quite rewarding but you're not correcting them right you're just making
01:45:51noises and feeling like a good person you're just making noises and feeling
01:45:57like a good person this is something I read from Jung called Gustav Jung a
01:46:06little crazy but some good insights he said thinking is hard that's why most
01:46:12people judge somebody says had a family member who was addicted to opioids for
01:46:19years and every word out of their mouth was just manipulation and angling to get
01:46:22resources free rent and drug money they were only ever truthfully to help them
01:46:26exploit others my parents enabled them the only solution for me was to totally
01:46:30disassociate from them yeah can't do it because the the addict has the pain of
01:46:38withdrawal and the pain of withdrawal comes with the attack of the suppressed
01:46:43conscience thank you Jared I appreciate that right the pain of withdrawal from a
01:46:51drug comes also with the attack of a bad conscience if you've lied to and stolen
01:46:55from your elderly parents or siblings or friends or you stole from strangers
01:47:02for your drugs or you know if you're a woman did you do prostitution or for a
01:47:06man for that matter so what happens when you take yourself off the drug is not
01:47:10only do you get the physical withdrawal but you also get the holy crap I was a
01:47:14really terrible person for years yeah good luck with that good luck with that
01:47:21it's really important to know when you can help people and when people are
01:47:24beyond help and maybe I'll maybe I'll do a we show on that at some point when
01:47:34when you when you stop in general I will confront people and if they say yes I
01:47:43didn't tell you the truth I'm really sorry about that and if during that
01:47:46conversation they lie again peace out baby peace out means they can't even
01:47:52hold integrity for an hour then you know peace out I am done done done done
01:48:02done done done done all right any other last comments questions tips helps
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01:48:31drugs and alcohol but that money they got emotional saying you don't know what
01:48:34they're going through I just wondering if you've ever considered streaming on
01:48:39kick great album apparently you get 95% of your earnings oh I'll look into that
01:48:44thank you I appreciate that and I appreciate the fact that you're not
01:48:48suggesting that I go on a platform I was banned from years ago
01:48:58all right well thank you thank you thank you my friends I really really do
01:49:02appreciate your time effort attention don't forget peaceful parenting calm you
01:49:06get the whole book I'm about 40% of the way through shrinking this thing down
01:49:10we're getting it down from about 180,000 words to 50 55,000 words so there is a
01:49:15shortened version of peaceful parenting coming for those who have the attention
01:49:21span what squirrel all right instead of money give them a sandwich yeah yeah
01:49:30some people just don't make it and you can circle back and then all that means
01:49:34is you don't make it either all right thank you thank you thank you for your
01:49:38help and support it was a lovely conversation today I really do
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01:50:00lots of love from up here my friends of friendliness take care have yourself a
01:50:06wonderful Sunday and I will talk to you soon take care everyone bye
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