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Video Information: Vishranti Shivir, 7.09.19, Chandigarh, India

Context:
~ How to come close to the teachings of Kabir Saheb?
~ Why Acharya Ji calls himself fanboy of Kabir Saheb?
~ How to benefit from the teachings of saints?
~ How to read scriptures?


Music Credits: Milind Date
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Category

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Learning
Transcript
00:00Tell me, your Acharya ji is sold out to this beautiful display of guts.
00:17Only somebody with the utter heart of a lion can dare to proclaim in public, Kabir is the
00:27pet dog of Ram and he didn't stop at that.
00:37He went ahead and christened himself as Mutiya, Kabir Kutta Ram Ka Mutiya Mera Nao, Gale Ram
00:48Ki Jewari Jit Kheeche Tit Jao.
00:54And when you come across something like this, you feel delighted to be alive at that moment.
01:03When I am with Kabir Saheb, I feel grateful for being alive, I am grateful I was born
01:11so that I could come upon Kabir and he lived in Varanasi which I said is the seat of Hindu
01:19orthodoxy and yet he had the courage, the devotion and the conviction to say, Paathar
01:29Pooje Hari Mile Toh Main Poojoon Pahaad.
01:37At another place he says, Devatan Se Kutta Bhala.
01:42If one could attain God by worshipping stones, I would rather worship the mountains and he
01:57told to all the idol worshippers that even dogs are better than all these gods that you
02:02worship, at least dogs offer you some protection and security in the night, what do these gods
02:08offer you?
02:12Macho man, my hero and I have been a fan boy, he is my super hero and the sheer depth of
02:26his realisation and the absolute simplicity of his expression, Maya Maya Sab Kahe Maya
02:34Lakhe Na Koi, Jo Manse Na Utre Maya Kahiye Soe and there are volumes upon volumes trying
02:41to describe what Maya is, the entire world is perplexed about Maya, what is Maya, what
02:51is Maya and Kabir Saheb dismisses all this talk about Maya like this, with one flash
03:01of his hand, Jo Manse Na Utre Maya Kahiye Soe, as if he is saying son, the question
03:11is so simple, why can't you see the answer, like a maths teacher, consoling a beginner
03:21who is grappling with an actually easy but apparently insurmountable problem, son it
03:28is so easy, just say y is equal to e raise to the power x and you will get the answer,
03:41just substitute e to the power x with y and you will get the answer, Jo Manse Na Utre
03:47Maya Kahiye Soe, done done dismissed and Maya is cringing and squirming, finally somebody
03:56got the better of me, Jo Manse Na Utre Maya Kahiye Soe, that which keeps occupying your
04:03mind, that which you cannot get rid of is Maya, is there any other who ever put it across
04:15so simply and so beautifully and so totally, there is nobody, Kaal Kaal Sab Kahe, Kaal
04:24Na Jaane Koi, Jeti Man Ki Kalpana Kaal Kahe Soe, time is another of our obsessions and
04:33we never seem to get the better of it, time, what is time, what is time, what is time,
04:41what is space time and Kabir Sahab says Jeti Man Ki Kalpana Kaal Kahe Soe and here he has
04:55hit two birds with this one arrow and he says Jeti Man Ki Kalpana Kaal Kahe Soe, by Kaal
05:02he means not merely time but also death, such fantastic mastery is rarely seen elsewhere,
05:14obviously you get glimpses of it many other places as well, I respect all of them, all
05:19of them are very very dear to me, I worship them but when it comes to Kabir Sahab, I said
05:26I am a fan boy, when he speaks, when he sings, I can just stand and clap all day,
05:39brute honesty and childlike simplicity, how can you put these two together, Kabir Sahab does,
05:50brute honesty and childlike simplicity and innocence, I sometimes say to the ones around
06:03me, if I am very unwell and dying, don't offer me Gangajal and all that, just sing Kabir to me,
06:20not that that would take me to heaven, that might actually make me get up, I am not interested
06:29in heavens or swarg but if you bring Kabir Sahab to me, chances are I will just spring
06:38back to my feet, no mumbo jumbo, no miracles, no other worldly stuff, Kabira, the highest
07:00that the world can ever know is calling himself Kabira, who will not fall in love with such
07:18a hero and work and work, work, work the entire day, work and have the courage to speak truth to
07:40power, the bare truth, the hard hitting truth, never mix it up, never dilute it, put things as
07:57they are, it goes something like this, Ashwamedh, Ajamedh, Sarpamedh, Narmedh,
08:06when it came to cruelty towards animals, Kabir Sahab is in another league, he is probably
08:24the only well known figure in the history of religion who has spoken very clearly, loudly
08:36and unsparingly against cruelty to animals and flesh eating, he did not spare even the
08:45Vedas, when the Vedas said that Ashwamedh should be there, you know what Ashwamedh is right,
08:51a sacrifice in which the horse is offered, similarly Ajamedh in which the goat is offered,
09:01so Kabir Sahab says, say Kabir to the unrighteous, and that is another reason why I so closely
09:10identify with him, today veganism is a cause we espouse, Kabir Sahab was a vegan in those
09:22times, he was the staunchest vegetarian at least, and he was very clear that if you eat
09:35flesh, if you kill animals and if you eat animal flesh, then you are entering into evil
09:49and no forgiveness, no redemption would be available to you, I can speak all night on
09:59him, so stop me, in fact I have spoken more on Kabir Sahab than I have done on anybody
10:11else, both in Hindi and English, and I think as long as this body is there, I will continue
10:19doing that, and his entire corpus is enormous, there is so much to speak on.

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