" Tribunal Ke Judge Ke Paas Ikhtiyar Hota Hai Ke Woh. .. " Tariq Fazl Chaudhry
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00:00If there is a time bar, then it can be a challenge for Shoaib Shaheen, but the law says that you have to give an answer within 7 days of the 2017 election act and you are bound to it.
00:09There can be a fine of Rs. 1 lakh on delay and an affidavit has to be included with it.
00:13If there is a hair-pair in the affidavit, then that too...
00:16Let me tell you.
00:17Do you understand?
00:18Yes.
00:19Let me tell you again that the judges of the tribunal have the power to decide on the time bar application first.
00:29It is a matter of 102 days, not a matter of months.
00:33There is a stamp in front of the tribunal when the petition is received.
00:38They receive it, stamp it and write the date on it.
00:41And when we get a notification, it is not difficult to calculate how many days are made from it.
00:47There is a stamp in front of you saying that there is a time bar.
00:50You are asking us for an answer for Rs. 1800.
00:52We are saying that you are making a decision in 24 hours.
00:54It is easy for us to collect an answer for Rs. 2000 first.
00:58Sir, the court has given you more than a month.
01:02You are right.
01:03It should have been decided earlier.
01:04Sir, he is also right.
01:06If there is a time bar, they are saying that they have given time on it.
01:08But are you feeling insecure now that the tribunal has changed?
01:12I will say two things.
01:13Number one, there is no time bar of any kind.
01:16And they have not challenged any order in the Supreme Court of Pakistan in a month.
01:20They go to the CPLA, which was a proper forum.
01:22They told the Honorable Tribunal that they are biased.
01:26What grounds have been taken in the application?
01:28There are two lawyers for the petitioner.
01:30Your brother is a lawyer.
01:31He is a member of Islamabad Bar.
01:33One's nephew is a judge.
01:34There are five lawyers of Islamabad Bar.
01:36One's son has logged from outside.
01:37One ground has been taken.
01:38What is the second ground?
01:40There is a time limit of 180 days.
01:42The issue is that they will decide what will be there.
01:47I am telling you on an open forum.
01:49No application, no objection has come to me.
01:51And with ECP claimants, who are they representing?
01:54Themselves.
01:55RO has not come.
01:56RO is being fined.
01:57Instead, they are saying that RO has been replaced.
01:59Doctor, what are you saying?
02:01This is Ali's own case.
02:03My case is my own.
02:04We both have separate cases.
02:06I have told you about my case.
02:07Yes, yes.
02:08I understood what you said.
02:10And sir, even that is challenged by Shoaib Shaheen.
02:13He says that I have given it within time.
02:15The court should make a decision on this.
02:17Because now you call it a non-partisan court proceedings.
02:20So, you are accusing the judge.
02:22Now you are saying that we have no problem with Mr. Jahangiri.
02:24He is an honourable man.
02:25But you also accuse him of being non-partisan.
02:27So, on what grounds?
02:29You can go ahead and back.
02:32It is your wish.
02:33I have given you a composed answer.
02:39We have no doubt on his honesty and integrity.
02:43But he has a bias.
02:44You have challenged him on this.
02:46The trial court proceedings.
02:49Now, sir, the new tribunal will be held by a retired judge.
02:51How will it be held?
02:53I am telling you one thing.
02:54It is a legal thing.
02:55Yes, quick.
02:56A tribunal has to come after the publication of a gazette.
03:00It will take 45 days.
03:01I have to petition for 45 days.
03:02I have done the petition.
03:03He has replied.
03:04Now, when two months have passed,
03:07a new tribunal has to come.
03:08It has taken 45 days.
03:09How will you take the previous proceedings?
03:11You have thrown the whole setup in the legal theme.
03:14This cannot remain an order for a day.
03:15Do you think the ECP has worked in haste?
03:17Of course, the ECP is our party.
03:18I have made a party.
03:19Even Vukla confuses you a little.
03:21I am telling you that the ECP, in my petition,
03:24the lawyer of Amar Mughal, Faisal,
03:27has written that he is representing me.
03:28The ECP should represent him against me.
03:30He did not find out which lawyer is representing whom.
03:33He has ordered only one.
03:34I am surprised.
03:36They say that the petitioners do not know.
03:40The ECP is two steps ahead.
03:42The ECP has made a new notification.
03:44On what basis?
03:45The application has been transferred.
03:46The application has been transferred.
03:47A new appointment has been started.
03:49One step has been taken ahead of the prayer.
03:52How can this be possible?
03:53I have sent my petition.
03:54Yes, doctor.
03:55I can send my petition.
03:59Our prayer is absolutely present.
04:00We have prayed for the formation of a new tribunal,
04:02for the transformation of the tribunal,
04:04for whatever position is in the law,
04:07and after that, in the current setup,
04:09whatever is available,
04:10we have prayed for all that from the election petition.
04:12Sir, your form 45, 46, 47, 48, 49,
04:16everything is ready, sir.
04:17What can you say?
04:19My lawyer was telling me that this is also present.
04:22At different times,
04:24the decisions of the High Court and the Supreme Court
04:27have been made.
04:28Since I am not a lawyer myself,
04:29I have given the reference.
04:30The lawyer has told me this.
04:31The third thing is that
04:33the facts are the same.
04:35Sir, the judge has said that
04:38the fake affidavit will also be sent to jail.
04:41Sir, I am saying that
04:43twisting the facts is over for them.
04:46Okay, fine.
04:47Sir, I am talking about the facts.
04:49The judge is doing a press conference outside
04:51that he has not given the record.
04:53Inside, the judge is saying that the record has come.
04:55Outside, he is saying that the record has not come.
04:57So, these kinds of false statements…
04:59Sir, are you satisfied
05:00that your new tribunal is being formed
05:03by winning from NA 47?
05:05Are you satisfied today, Mr. Tarek Fazal Chaudhary?
05:08Look, the new tribunal,
05:10of course, we have requested for the formation of the tribunal.
05:12Are you satisfied?
05:13If the request has been accepted,
05:15then of course,
05:16it was our prayer that has been accepted.
05:18And are all your forms ready?
05:20Mr. Chaudhary, are all your forms ready to be submitted?
05:23Are all your forms ready?
05:25Mr. Chaudhary, are all your forms,
05:27answers and affidavits ready
05:29to be presented in front of the new tribunal?
05:31I will submit all of them
05:33on every TV channel
05:35and on your channel,
05:36first of all, I will come and show you
05:38that we have submitted everything.
05:40Thank you very much, sir.
05:41I will just add two things.
05:43Number one, the ECP.
05:45I have spoken very clearly about the notification of the ECP.
05:48Their forms have not come yet.
05:50What is the issue?
05:51Now, what is the issue?
05:52The issue is of documentary evidence.
05:53The issue is of Form 45.
05:54Where are the Form 45s?
05:56He is saying that as soon as they are submitted,
05:57they will come.
05:58Where will they be submitted?
05:59When we asked them to submit it in the media,
06:00they said they will submit it in the court.
06:01When we ask them to submit it in the court,
06:02they say they will submit it in the mosque.
06:03When we ask them to submit it in the Khan-e-Kaaba,
06:04they say they will not submit it there either.
06:05Where will they go?
06:06You tell us.
06:07Tell us your place.
06:08Bring it to Mehr.
06:09Mehr will come within 10 minutes.
06:10Yes, Dr. Sahib,
06:11you will be the last one to answer.
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