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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, hello and welcome to Surf Excel Presents ICC 320 World Cup Special Transmission powered by Lifebuoy Shampoo and supported by Phoenix Battery
00:08I have with me my panel, Kamran Akmal, Basit Ali and Shahid Ashmi. Assalam-o-Alaikum, welcome to the show.
00:14This team has given us so much pain that we forgot to talk about today's matches, so let's get them off the way.
00:21Scotland beat Namibia in Bridgetown Barbados.
00:25Scotland has won this match by 5-0 and today's second match will be played at 7.30pm between Canada and Ireland in New York.
00:33And here, obviously, Ireland is seen as a stronger side.
00:37Moving on, we will talk about Pakistan.
00:41Obviously, the biggest stakeholder is the fans of this team and how disappointed the fans are about Pakistan's defeat.
00:51They say that they couldn't even imagine that Pakistan would lose to a team like America in the World Cup.
00:59Basit, let's start with you.
01:01The fans, who love this team so much, say that at least they did well in the match and lost.
01:09Or if it's an equal team, then it's understandable and they accept it.
01:14But how can the public accept losing to a weak team every time?
01:19It's very difficult to tolerate when cricket is so much loved in your country, especially in India and Pakistan.
01:26After that, if there are matches like this, then people will think.
01:32By the way, I wanted to ask, the match you told us about today, Ireland vs Canada.
01:36Canada is the same team that won the U.S.A. Cup in 1994, right?
01:39Yes, of course.
01:41You are a good man, but you have more salt on your wounds.
01:44No, no, no. Another team has gone to New York.
01:46Canada is second in Dallas.
01:48What will you say about the disappointment of the fans?
01:50It's absolutely right.
01:52The type of cricket you are playing, you are moving away from the fans.
01:56And the fans make so many sacrifices, they sacrifice with their jobs, with their families.
02:01They invest money, they kill their time just to watch cricket.
02:06If they are not happy, then how will we perform well?
02:10To make them happy, it is very important to give a good performance.
02:13Like you said in the intro, we are losing to a small team.
02:17Earlier, we beat Australia, we beat New Zealand, we beat Australia.
02:23We are losing at home, we are losing to England.
02:26We are neither beating a good team, nor a weak team.
02:30No one is thinking about where we are going.
02:33We are losing to every small team.
02:35If we win against a big team, we will win against them.
02:38The problem is that there is no one here to identify us.
02:41There is no one to tell us.
02:43They are just telling us to keep working.
02:45There is no one to question us.
02:47People, fans, whoever they are, they don't ask us anything.
02:50They don't see us, they don't talk about cricket.
02:52Now, there is so much awareness in the fans,
02:55that they talk about every ball,
02:58that it should be like this, it should be like that.
03:00Everyone is saying that there is no pride.
03:01Why didn't you face us in the Super Over?
03:03Can anyone think that there is no pride?
03:06No one can think that they are standing in front of us as spectators,
03:09watching the entire Super Over.
03:11Mr. Shahid, the same thing, that people understand a lot,
03:15and they have a lot of emotions.
03:17What would you say?
03:19There is a lot of excitement and entertainment in Pakistan.
03:22Cricket is the number one entertainment.
03:24People...
03:25Sorry.
03:26People wake up at night.
03:27They wake up early in the morning,
03:29about the fans,
03:30and how much pain they are in,
03:32because of yesterday's defeat.
03:33I go to a lot of fans,
03:35in shops, in markets.
03:37They have so much knowledge about cricket,
03:39that you are surprised.
03:41Kamran must not go there, he is a celebrity.
03:43Basit too, you are on defense.
03:45So, when we go to you,
03:47we get to know...
03:48I go for groceries too.
03:50You go to a lot of places for groceries, right?
03:52No, no.
03:53There are no fans there.
03:55There are no fans there for groceries.
03:56I don't go to the jungle.
03:58So, people are very sad,
04:00and people get so upset
04:02about what kind of cricket Pakistan is playing.
04:05They say again and again that
04:06there are friendships going on in our team,
04:08there are strange and poor things going on in our team.
04:11They get very emotional.
04:13And they say such accusations and such things,
04:16which you obviously cannot say on screen.
04:18But people have a heart.
04:20People don't have entertainment.
04:21Cricket is a big entertainment.
04:23They want to see Pakistan's team win.
04:25They want to see Pakistan's players do well.
04:27And most importantly,
04:29they want the Pakistani team to play better than Indian players,
04:32and whenever they have a match with India,
04:34they want to defeat them.
04:35Obviously, they are sad.
04:36The chances are very slim,
04:38and it seems very difficult.
04:40What kind of body language will there be
04:42after this defeat?
04:44There can be no worse body language than this,
04:46and Pakistan's team cannot go any lower than this.
04:48There is only one way, and that is upwards.
04:50Yes, Mr. Basit.
04:51Some fans hold hands and say,
04:54Mr. Basit, your team will not win.
04:57When I hear that sentence, it hurts me.
05:00That's why I can't say it, because I'm old.
05:03I don't want to say it.
05:05But it hurts me that they say it in such an authentic way,
05:09that there is nothing in your team.
05:11And do they say it wrong?
05:13After yesterday's match…
05:14Your team is in a position where they are not saying anything wrong.
05:16After yesterday's match, they were right,
05:18but it wasn't like that.
05:20And I think I said a very powerful sentence.
05:23You can't go any lower than this.
05:25Now, who motivates you to win?
05:28God knows.
05:29The start of 2024 was already bad in T20.
05:33There was a bad start in this World Cup as well.
05:36But the two World Cups before this,
05:38obviously, they would have fallen.
05:40But we reached the semi-finals in one,
05:42and we played the finals in the other.
05:43So, we haven't completely defeated India yet.
05:47Chances are there.
05:49There are 10 players in the current squad
05:51who have played the T20 World Cup before.
05:53If we don't compare the teams of 2021, 2022 and 2024,
05:57you can see the picture on the screen.
05:59If we compare the teams of 2021 and 2022,
06:03do you think the balance is out?
06:08If you look at the balance of 2021 and 2022,
06:12your balance was better in 2021.
06:15You had a good start.
06:17You won against India and New Zealand.
06:19Because you had an opener and a setter.
06:21You had Hafeez and Shoaib Malik as mid-orders.
06:24He was also an opener.
06:26You had a dugout.
06:30You had a player.
06:32You had an alternate box.
06:35So, I think those are the things.
06:37But in this team,
06:39there is a level of confidence.
06:41You didn't have a team,
06:43you didn't have a mid-order.
06:44You had five openers.
06:46You had a spinner, but you didn't let him play.
06:49You had a fast bowler, but all of them were fast bowlers.
06:52You had a match-winner.
06:54We have been losing in the middle for the past two years.
06:57We need to come out in the middle.
06:59We are leaking runs.
07:01No one is paying attention to that.
07:03All they are paying attention to is...
07:05I don't think this is a Pakistani team.
07:08We haven't made a Pakistani team in the last six to eight months.
07:11We have made a team to make each other happy.
07:14If we had made a team with Pakistan in front of us,
07:16it wouldn't have been like this.
07:18Definitely, Pakistan can make a good team.
07:20It can still be a good team.
07:22After this World Cup,
07:24they can fix their politics.
07:26Absolutely right.
07:27Basit bhai, comparing this team with the previous two teams.
07:31In 2021-22, our bowling was good.
07:34Our spinners were delivering well.
07:36And we were outing fast bowlers as well.
07:38Which is not the case now.
07:40In my opinion, the batting was the same.
07:42Absolutely right.
07:43We didn't get a run from Babar in one match.
07:45Both of them won from India at 152.
07:47We couldn't perform well in Australia.
07:50The batting is still the same.
07:52Bowling is the biggest problem.
07:54I agree with this 100%.
07:56Our batting is always like this.
07:59Our bowling used to make us win matches.
08:01Now your bowlers are not working.
08:03The same Shaheen, the same Naseem, the same Haris.
08:06And now you have an experienced Mohd. Amir with you.
08:09Even then, like we were saying yesterday,
08:12the bowling was helpless.
08:14In the Asia Cup, the whole world was talking about Pakistan's red-hot bowling attack.
08:20True.
08:21But in the Asia Cup...
08:22We fell from there.
08:23In the World Cup 2000, that's where we got our eyes on.
08:26The Indian media had a bad eye on us.
08:28Red-hot bowling attack.
08:30The same bowlers used to make us win 160-170 runs.
08:35Because our bowling was good.
08:37But since we stopped bowling,
08:39we haven't been able to win 160-170-180 runs.
08:42We can't even defend 200 runs.
08:44True.
08:45The 2021 team was stable because it had a good middle order,
08:49like Kamran just said.
08:50And the results were also very good.
08:52Pakistan is not coming from a small team.
08:54India...
08:55The venue used to suit you a lot.
08:58These venues are almost the same.
09:01There's not much of a difference with the UAE.
09:03There's a lot of fast bowling in the UAE.
09:05The venue is the same, but the teams are weak.
09:08We can't lose to them.
09:09Or the teams have improved.
09:11We can say that the other teams have improved.
09:14We are at the same level.
09:16Absolutely right.
09:17We'll take a break here.
09:18We'll continue the discussion.
09:19Stay with us.
09:20Glad to have you back once again to our special transmission.
09:22We'll talk about some captains.
09:25In the last session, we were talking about
09:28how the Pakistan team's captain, Babur Azam, is doing.
09:32And how much he's learning.
09:34We'll get some ideas from this stat.
09:36Pakistan T20 captains record.
09:39You'll see it on the screen.
09:41Babur Azam has won 46 out of 82 matches as captain.
09:45And lost in 28 matches.
09:48Sarfaraz Ahmed has an impressive record.
09:51He has won 29 out of 37 matches.
09:54He has lost 8 matches.
09:55Shahid Afridi has won 19 out of 43 matches.
09:58He has lost 23 matches.
09:59Muhammad Hafeez has won 17 matches as captain.
10:04He has lost 11 matches.
10:05And Shoaib Malik has lost 13 out of 20 matches.
10:08Shahid, I'll start with you this time.
10:10In captaining, the stats you're giving us,
10:14there's no improvement.
10:15You're not able to learn.
10:16What's the problem?
10:17We've changed the captains a lot.
10:19We've had good captains.
10:21With Sarfaraz, he lost a one-day series.
10:25He won a one-day series.
10:28He lost a T20 series.
10:29He lost one series.
10:30But his record was very good.
10:32Pakistan has won consecutive wins under him.
10:34We've removed Shoaib Malik.
10:36We've removed a lot of captains.
10:38We've removed Hafeez.
10:40We've been removing captains every day.
10:42Babar is lucky.
10:43He's been a regular captain.
10:45And he's come back.
10:46When on 30th April,
10:49he was called to be the captain,
10:52Babar wanted to bat.
10:55He wanted to improve his captaining.
10:57He didn't want to take it right away.
11:00You were removed in November.
11:01You took the captaincy right away.
11:03You're not improving your captaining.
11:05You're not learning anything.
11:07You're not proactive.
11:08You wait for something to happen.
11:11If something happens,
11:12if a batsman is out,
11:13you want your team to improve.
11:15In three balls,
11:17do you tell Harish Rao
11:19where to take the field?
11:21Babar should have gone for the last ball.
11:24How long does it take?
11:2510 seconds? 20 seconds? 25 seconds?
11:27He should have told him
11:29that he's taken a deep fine leg.
11:31Don't take the ball there.
11:33If you take it straight,
11:34I'll take the fielder back.
11:36Basit, when it comes to captaining,
11:38there are many examples in the world
11:40that show that a great player
11:42is not necessary to be a great captain.
11:45Sachin Tendulkar is one such example.
11:47He left the captaincy
11:49and focused on his batting.
11:51I think Babar's batting
11:52is under the same pressure.
11:54And as Shahid said,
11:56there's no improvement in captaincy.
11:58A captain is a born leader.
12:01He leads the team from the lowest level.
12:04And you can see that.
12:06Did Babar lead the team in U-19?
12:08No, you can't see that.
12:10Salman Butt,
12:12Salim Malik, Javed Bhai,
12:14Yunus.
12:16But, the 46 matches you showed us,
12:19they won against top teams.
12:22Yes, they won.
12:23You played cricket a lot
12:25against weaker teams.
12:27It's a small thing.
12:28You lost to Afghanistan in the World Cup.
12:31You lost to Zimbabwe in Perth.
12:33And now, you lost to the USA.
12:35Who was the captain?
12:36All of them.
12:37Zimbabwe lost to Zimbabwe in T20.
12:40Look at the captaincy.
12:42Because,
12:44your style of batting is different.
12:48Your style of captaincy is different.
12:50In batting, you lead the team.
12:53In captaincy, you have to lead 10 players.
12:55You have to take the plus and negative points of 10 players.
12:58You have to know their thoughts.
13:00You can't see those things.
13:03In captaincy, you have to have a mindset.
13:05Two Indian journalists went to interview Dhoni.
13:07He said, sit down, I'm playing a video game.
13:09While playing the video game,
13:11he sat next to Ambati Raidu.
13:14He said, Raidu,
13:16there are only 3 bullets and 6 people to kill.
13:18So, watch and shoot.
13:20So, you have to understand his mindset.
13:22In the video game,
13:24he didn't spare the enemy.
13:26He said, there are only 3 bullets and
13:284 or 5 people to kill.
13:30He didn't do that.
13:32Kamran, there are two things.
13:34Like Basit said,
13:36he is a born leader.
13:38There is a small percentage of learning on the job.
13:40So, you can't see learning on the job, right?
13:43You can't say,
13:46when I made him for the first time,
13:48I was doing captaincy.
13:50Now, what can I do?
13:52Did you see the difference?
13:54I'm saying,
13:56I should have seen the difference.
13:58Of course.
13:59I should have seen a different captain.
14:01Ben Stock is a captain.
14:03After 6 months,
14:05he came to Pakistan and won the series.
14:07He has won the best captaincy award of ICC.
14:10These are the sharp captains.
14:12Captains are made domestically.
14:14Like Rishaid Bhai said, he was a captain in U-19.
14:16After that, was he not capable of being a captain?
14:18The Pakistan Cricket Board didn't understand.
14:20He didn't do captaincy for any team.
14:22He played departmental cricket.
14:24He played from Islamabad.
14:26He wasn't a captain there.
14:28When he became the captain of Pakistan,
14:30he did captaincy.
14:32Before the break, you said that
14:34our World Cup 21 team was good,
14:3622 team was good.
14:38We are good in the 21 team
14:40because we won the World Cup in Dubai.
14:42We won the World Cup in Dubai, of course.
14:44Before that,
14:46we won the World Cup in Dubai.
14:48Show me the stats.
14:50We can't call that team.
14:52We made that team because
14:54we didn't want anyone else to come.
14:56We kept our favourite players in the team.
14:58Where are those favourite players?
15:00Tell me.
15:02It's been 10 years since the World Cup ended.
15:04Where are they?
15:06We don't want them to come.
15:08Even now,
15:10the teams play cricket
15:12with good vision,
15:14keeping in mind the system.
15:16If you work outside the system,
15:18things will never get better.
15:20Yes, Mr. Basit.
15:22I think
15:24the team that has been made
15:26since the last year
15:28or a year and a half,
15:30you didn't make the team of Pakistan.
15:32You made the franchise 11.
15:34It's a tough statement.
15:36People will be troubled.
15:38But it's the truth.
15:40You made the franchise 11.
15:42It's the truth.
15:44When Babar Azam was the captain
15:46in 2012,
15:48Pakistan lost the quarter-final
15:50to India.
15:52We needed 17 runs.
15:5418 runs on the last wicket.
15:56The last three wickets
15:58always trouble Babar Azam.
16:00Take South Africa's match
16:02in the 2023 World Cup.
16:04Take a lot of matches
16:06where you caught the team
16:08and let it go
16:10without putting pressure.
16:12Babar should have got the support
16:14he got. He's a great player.
16:16If Hafeez
16:18and Mali
16:20got the same support
16:22from the chairman and the chief selector,
16:24their start would have been the best.
16:26They wouldn't compromise
16:28with them.
16:30They wouldn't go out of their system.
16:32I've played with them and under them.
16:34Look at Hafeez's captaincy
16:36and the teams we've played with.
16:38Look at Mali's captaincy
16:40and the teams we've played with.
16:42Look at Sarfaraz's captaincy
16:44and the teams we've played with.
16:46Babar should have
16:48been a different captain.
16:50Let's take a break.
16:52Stay with us.
16:54Welcome back to our special
16:56transmission.
16:58A former captain,
17:00Waseem Akram,
17:02believes that Pakistan played
17:04bad cricket yesterday
17:06and now it looks bad.
17:08Waseem, when we're in trouble,
17:10I want to know
17:12from all of you.
17:14Where do we go
17:16from here?
17:18We all know that there should be
17:20a post-mortem.
17:22But this event
17:24hasn't ended.
17:26What do we do next?
17:28Don't think it's over.
17:30Stay positive.
17:32Think about the match
17:34and play.
17:36Big teams don't think about the final.
17:38They play match-to-match.
17:40Game awareness.
17:42I'm sorry to say that
17:44we didn't see game awareness
17:46against the USA.
17:48What about India?
17:50I don't understand
17:52how we'll play the match.
17:54We have to stay positive
17:56and perform well.
17:58We have to play for pride.
18:00We'll see if we qualify
18:02or not.
18:04We have to play well
18:06and control the dents.
18:08Waseem, the tricky situation
18:10is that after such a big
18:12defeat, you have to
18:14play against India.
18:16What do you have to do?
18:18New York is better.
18:20The pitches we've seen
18:22so far,
18:24we have to make two plans.
18:26Like this?
18:28No, like this.
18:30If you have a boat,
18:32you're done.
18:34You have to win
18:36all three matches.
18:38The first 50%
18:40is against India.
18:42No matter what,
18:44we're not a team.
18:46We're not a team.
18:48Our body language
18:50tells us.
18:52When there's a throw
18:54and there's no one
18:56to back it,
18:58you have to play as one
19:00and
19:02I hope you
19:04don't go any lower than this.
19:06You might even beat India.
19:08Then your confidence level
19:10will change 100%.
19:12You always say that cricket
19:14is a game of numbers.
19:16Mirza Ghalib has a famous saying.
19:18There's no hope.
19:20There's no chance.
19:22We have to win all three matches
19:24or we can't go to the Super 8.
19:26Can't you do it in two matches?
19:28It will be difficult
19:30in two matches.
19:32It's very easy.
19:34It won't be easy.
19:36India won all four matches
19:38and Ireland
19:40beat America.
19:42We won the match
19:44with two good averages.
19:46When fans
19:48are so upset,
19:50our team,
19:52the captain or the coach,
19:54will beat India.
19:56They're so innocent.
19:58They'll say it's okay.
20:00It's a bad day.
20:02It's a bad day.
20:04It's a bad day.
20:06It's a bad day.
20:08It's a bad day.
20:10It's a bad day.
20:12It's a bad day.
20:14It's a bad day.
20:16It's a bad day.
20:18It's a bad day.
20:20It's a bad day.
20:22We don't have much time.
20:24Let's quickly move on
20:26to our segment, Ask Expert.
20:28Salman's question is from Karachi.
20:30Salman has asked,
20:32who was hosting the meet and greet
20:34of the Pakistan team
20:36and why doesn't the PCB
20:38do anything about it?
20:40Salman, I'll show you
20:42another thing.
20:44This was another event
20:46that was postponed.
20:48It was supposed to happen today.
20:50How was the planning?
20:52Kamran,
20:54are you going to play the World Cup
20:56or are you going to do this?
20:58Obviously, when you're winning,
21:00no one questions you.
21:02When you're losing, what's going on?
21:04I was surprised
21:06that you're going to play the World Cup.
21:08What activities
21:10are you doing?
21:12We've lost badly.
21:14We've lost to England and Ireland.
21:16Let's take the star of the World Cup
21:18into consideration.
21:20I don't know what the truth is.
21:22The PCB should inquire
21:24about who organized it,
21:26who gave the permission
21:28or if it was a high-level permission.
21:30If the players or team management
21:32gave the permission,
21:34then the Pakistan Cricket Board
21:36should definitely take action.
21:38You go to a big event
21:40and your first match is very important.
21:42When this happens,
21:44people say that you're having a joy trip.
21:46When this happened,
21:48it was already decided.
21:50You said it was postponed.
21:52We were winning our first match
21:54against America.
21:56We thought we'd do this.
21:58Now it's the opposite.
22:00You must remember
22:02that the team was being announced
22:04a day before.
22:06It's all a show.
22:08It's not like we're very strong.
22:10When others do it,
22:12they do it for show.
22:14It happened in the World Cup in India.
22:16The team was announced a day before.
22:18I used to laugh.
22:20Why are you telling your strategy?
22:22India's team has been in New York
22:24since June 1.
22:26India's community is much bigger
22:28than our community in America.
22:30They have a lot of money.
22:32I have a complaint.
22:34You did a meet and greet.
22:36Only $25?
22:38At least $250.
22:40People have a lot of money in America.
22:42You reduced the prices of players
22:44in Pakistan.
22:46$250 or $2000.
22:48What's the point?
22:50It's fun.
22:52You get good money.
22:54$25 seems right.
22:56It's a 25-30 day tournament.
23:00We were winning our first match.
23:02It's a 25-30 day tournament.
23:04You can stop after that.
23:06You can do whatever you want.
23:08Your focus should be the World Cup.
23:10A poor kid
23:12is spending $2500
23:14on the World Cup.
23:16Island tour, England tour,
23:18America tour.
23:20That's it for our transmission.
23:22We hope that Pakistan
23:24will recover from the defeat
23:26and get back on track.
23:28When we face India,
23:30we'll see a different team.
23:32This is Najeeb Al-Hassanain signing off.
23:34Take care.