Why Guilty Verdict In Hush Money Trial Will Increase Turnout For Trump: Political Scientist

4 months ago

On "Forbes Newsroom," political scientist Charles Lipson said that the guilty verdict in former President Trump's NYC hush money trial will increase turnout for him.

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00:00 I think that the ad for President Biden pretty much pretty much writes itself because there were 34 counts, all of them guilty.

00:10 If you flip to any news channel, the anchor was reading count one guilty, guilty, guilty.

00:16 I mean, he can just splice that up 34 times and run that as an ad.

00:20 But if you're voting for Biden, you're part of the base, the Democratic base.

00:24 It's not like this is changing your opinion of Trump.

00:27 You weren't voting for him to begin with. If you're part of Trump's base, you're pretty much unmovable.

00:33 So how much really is this a political liability for Donald Trump?

00:38 Again, we just don't know. Let me give you let me give you a concrete example of that.

00:45 I think a lot of people will look back to the O.J. Simpson trial.

00:50 Right. In which there was a deep division in the country. In that case, it was a racial division.

00:58 I can remember it well because I I went into the political science main office at the University of Chicago where I was.

01:09 I was teaching at an office down the hall and most people were kind of silent about it.

01:18 But there was a person I had a very high regard for, African-American.

01:23 She was the administrative chief administrative assistant in the office.

01:29 And I closed the door and I asked her, could she say privately what she thought?

01:34 She thought he was absolutely innocent. And I think over the polling showed that over 80 percent of African-Americans showed he was thought he was innocent.

01:45 It may have been as high as 90. What's interesting and well over 80, maybe 90 percent of whites thought he was guilty.

01:55 What's interesting is that over time, the African-American, if you poll them, they now a vast majority think O.J. Simpson was guilty.

02:10 So people's opinions change over time. I think in in the case of O.J. Simpson, the reason that I'm bringing it up is not only that it divided the country,

02:22 but there was a sense that people divided into their clusters, into their packs, and they didn't want to disagree with their packs.

02:34 There weren't people who who were living on our block who thought Trump is bad, but I don't want to go to this party because I don't think this was a good conviction.

02:47 I don't think this was right. I think they will do what you said, Brittany.

02:53 And if you were going to vote for Biden, you're still going to vote for Biden.

02:56 If you're going to vote for Trump, you're still. But I think it will increase the turnout, maybe for both candidates, but certainly for Trump.

03:05 And there's an interesting question about whether it will help him peel off groups that feel, I think often accurately, that they've been mistreated by the U.S.

03:19 justice system. And that begins with African-American men.

03:22 American man.

Why Guilty Verdict In Hush Money Trial Will Increase Turnout For Trump: Political Scientist

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