'Can you imagine how offensive that is?': Sky News presenter clashes with Nigel Farage on British MuslimsSource: Sky News
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00:00 The sheer numbers that were coming in last week, you really have to ask yourself some
00:04 questions.
00:05 Well, is this the thrust of the reform campaign that actually immigration means that our values
00:15 are threatened and particularly we are unhappy about Muslims?
00:21 Because that is a pretty incendiary proposition.
00:25 We have never before seen anything like this.
00:28 You think about West Indian immigration into Britain, post World War II.
00:31 I think of very little else.
00:33 West Indian immigration into Britain post World War II.
00:35 There were a lot of shared things there, shared history, shared culture, shared religion in
00:41 many cases.
00:43 Most families that came could say one of their family had served with British forces in World
00:48 War I, World War II, love of cricket, the list goes on, but there were commonalities.
00:54 And as you know with your previous job, the key to immigration is integration.
00:58 If you get integration, it works.
01:01 What we have done is, and this works on several levels, what we have done...
01:06 I'm going to stop you there and I'm going to say two things.
01:08 Well, here's the difference.
01:09 No, no, I'm going to tell you something about the difference.
01:12 First of all, you're right, I come from that stock.
01:16 But let us remember that my stock, my ancestors, for the best part of 700 or 800 years, were
01:23 Muslims until they were forcibly converted to Christians by slave owners.
01:29 So when you talk about Muslims as hostile to British values, I've got to say, I don't
01:36 really...
01:37 Let me finish what I'm going to say.
01:38 Hang on.
01:39 I don't really see how you arrive at that conclusion.
01:42 And secondly, trying to say to me, you know, actually you guys are not really like these
01:49 other guys.
01:51 I mean, you and I have known each other a long time.
01:54 Can you imagine how offensive that is to British Muslims?
01:58 Let me ask you to put yourself in the shoes of a British Muslim and can you imagine how
02:04 offensive that feels?
02:06 How many people in your community fail to speak English?
02:08 How many people?
02:09 From the West Indian community don't speak English.
02:12 We all speak English.
02:13 Thank you.
02:14 Thank you.
02:15 I can take you.
02:18 I can take you to streets in Oldham where virtually no one speaks English.
02:22 I've been there too.
02:24 But honestly, come on.
02:26 The point I'm making is this.
02:27 I am not here to attack the religion of Islam, but I am here.
02:30 Well, you've just been doing it for three minutes.
02:32 No, I haven't.
02:33 I'm telling you the alarming figures that have been coming out of these recent polls,
02:37 particularly in the wake of what has happened on October the 7th and in Gaza.
02:42 And we have a real, real problem here.