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Transcript
00:00 What will happen tomorrow?
00:02 I will just cover this legal issue and then I will come to the political issue.
00:05 Justice Atar Minhala sir has already told us in his remarks that how the judges have taken this matter.
00:12 The letters that the judges of the High Court have written, on which the proceedings of the contempt have also started,
00:18 so you must be getting an idea from this question that what the judges are thinking.
00:22 These statements are sometimes given in TV programs, sometimes in press conferences, whoever gives it, any political party, any person,
00:30 without freedom, without justice, without the supremacy of the law, there is no future for anything.
00:36 What will happen?
00:37 Look, the press conferences that people have done, it seems that they are not the well-wishers of the executive.
00:42 You are saying that they are doing it on behalf of the executive, but they are not well-wishers.
00:46 This is a matter of the Supreme Court, it was also done in May 2012 and later it was not understood.
00:52 Here too, it seems that on one hand, there is talk of institutional dialogue and the judges are being tried to do whatever they want.
01:01 Because the main problem is PTI, if you confront judges, then the biggest beneficiary is PTI,
01:07 and the executive will be at a loss in the current situation and the benefit will be PTI, if it is seen in this matter.
01:13 And the judges who are being attacked, they are victims of PTI.
01:19 The most critical of them is Babar Sattar and Justice Sattar.
01:24 Babar Sattar, I think, yesterday, Mr. Rahat Sinhaullah told me that he did not want to bring your party, Babar Sattar, and opposed it.
01:31 So, I am saying that, although maybe this issue is with them, these judges are with them.
01:37 And this was said to Tariq-e-Insaaf at that time, whatever message was sent, that they will stand for you tomorrow,
01:43 because they are judges who stand on principle, they are not political judges.
01:47 So, I think that tomorrow, there will be a simple notice, because this committee has not approved it.
01:54 A note has been written by a commissioner, on that, the case was fixed yesterday in Band No. 1, Qazi Fahisa Sahib.
02:00 And the most important, that for the first time, in 6 months, Qazi Fahisa Sahib has also,
02:05 which is obviously against the executive, has put up a take-up.
02:09 So, for the first time?
02:11 Yes, I think so, I have heard it for the first time.
02:13 So, in 6 months, tell us one statement, one observation, which we can all agree on.
02:17 I will tell you that the decision of the level playing field came against one party,
02:20 the bat symbol was taken by one party, all the things that were happening with the people,
02:24 there was no relief on that, this is what he is saying.
02:27 I listen to his V-logs, I have to take it with me, it is very difficult,
02:32 I have to say this, I will listen to your V-logs,
02:38 I am saying that, the matter should not go there,
02:41 the V-logs are fine, we will come back.
02:43 Raja Sahib, all these press conferences, is this your party policy?
02:49 Government policy.
02:53 The thing is that, in all the press conferences, I will make one thing clear,
02:59 that one thing that is going on, which should not be,
03:02 our country cannot be satisfied at this time,
03:04 this one discussion that there are two courts and an institutional response is coming,
03:12 and there is a problem of establishment behind it,
03:15 my first thought is that, at this time, this kind of environment is being created,
03:20 and these press conferences are taking place, especially Faisal Sahib's press conferences,
03:24 Faisal Sahib's presser should not be associated with the establishment in any way,
03:30 or can be associated with it, he has his own personal opinion,
03:34 he has expressed his personal opinion,
03:36 and that thing is in your personal capacity.
03:39 Tell us about Talal Chaudhary, in which account did he do it?
03:44 Talal Chaudhary did not say that, he said something general,
03:48 he has done his judiciary things, which are Faisal Sahib's.
03:52 And in the last two days, all your government's allies,
03:56 whether it is Governor Sindh, Mustafa Kamal, Aun Chaudhary,
04:00 all of them remembered in two days that there are big problems in the courts.
04:06 See, lower judiciary problem, if one party does not get justice,
04:11 then in the past, Tehreek-e-Insaf,
04:14 against their injustice, they took the names of judges in the gatherings,
04:18 and showed their pictures, and tweeted.
04:20 They did not show the pictures, they took the names of judges,
04:22 and said that we will take action against you,
04:24 you people did not show the pictures in the gatherings,
04:26 you are bench fixers, this and that,
04:28 and after that,
04:30 and after that,
04:32 and after that,
04:34 and after that,
04:36 if you see, if you remove your character of Shaukat Siddiqui,
04:40 after what you have said,
04:42 our statement was proved right,
04:44 what we were saying, what we were saying.
04:46 The problem is that both statements were proved right,
04:48 their statements were proved right,
04:50 Tehreek-e-Insaf's, yours were also proved right,
04:52 Shaukat Siddiqui's, and six judges of one court,
04:56 and all the courts are writing that there are pressures.
04:58 Yes.
05:00 And Ghazooz-e-Tahirzad,
05:02 all the people who have written the press conferences,
05:04 if all the courts are writing that they are under pressure,
05:06 then tell us with whom they are under pressure.
05:08 They are under pressure,
05:10 they have so much power that they are under pressure.
05:12 Listen to me, you have not read the letter.
05:14 I have not read the letter.
05:16 It is written, how else?
05:18 How else can we talk with the Quran?
05:20 No, I am saying, call those judges who you think are under pressure.
05:22 If you say that we are under pressure,
05:24 if you say that we are under pressure,
05:26 you can't write that letter.
05:28 No, your seven judges,
05:30 no, your seven judges,
05:32 this pressure,
05:34 this pressure,
05:36 when the pressure was seen in Judge Arshad's court,
05:38 when the pressure was seen in Judge Arshad's court,
05:40 when he was leaving the court,
05:42 if you add all the pressures of that time,
05:44 if you want to talk about this,
05:46 if you want to talk about this,
05:48 and all the decisions will be correct,
05:50 and all the decisions will be correct,
05:52 if you allow me, I will take a break.
05:54 If you want to review these decisions,
05:56 when Makhdoom Javed Ashmi said that
05:58 our talk is over,
06:00 he said, why are you pushing on the streets,
06:02 come up,
06:04 he said, why are you pushing on the streets,
06:06 come up,
06:08 this is a circle.
06:10 This is a circle.
06:12 This is a separate matter,
06:14 and when you talk to judges,
06:16 it is a separate matter,
06:18 don't do this, Kashif.
06:20 You are getting tense.
06:22 You were not the beneficiary of the decision of the bat.
06:24 Let's talk more after the break.

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