In remarks on the House floor last week, Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) spoke about the deficit and border security.
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00:00 [Pause]
00:11 Under the Speaker's announced policy of January 9th, 2023, the Chair recognizes the gentleman
00:16 from Texas, Mr. Roy, for 30 minutes.
00:20 I appreciate the Speaker, and as usual, I appreciate my friend from Arizona, who has,
00:26 if nothing else, dogged in his determination and consistent in making clear to the American
00:32 people the problem that we face in our overall spending, including mandatory, and specifically
00:39 mandatory as we refer to it, this broad basket of things that we have committed to do that
00:45 is consuming our budget ever more every single year.
00:48 And it's an important point, and one that we don't discuss enough as a body on what
00:55 we should do about it.
00:56 And the gentleman's point is precisely correct about the nature of the problem, the seriousness
01:04 of the problem.
01:05 I mean, when we're sitting here right now, and we're roughly – I'm going to use
01:08 ballpark numbers – bringing in $4 trillion of revenue, but we are spending about $6 trillion.
01:15 We are then sitting at – and pushing $7 trillion.
01:17 He's right.
01:18 It depends on what we're talking about in terms of the accounting.
01:21 But basically what you're saying is you are printing money, printing money to fund
01:29 effectively all of our discretionary budget and then some.
01:33 What I mean by that is you're printing money to fund defense, you're printing money
01:38 to fund the operations of government, the Department of Justice, you're printing
01:41 money to fund the Department of Homeland Security, all of the things that you touch and feel
01:46 and see, because the $4 trillion is going to fund Medicare, Social Security, food stamps,
01:55 some veterans' benefits that are mandatory, plus interest.
02:00 There you are.
02:01 You've used up all of your revenue.
02:03 But the problem is nobody in this town wants to do anything about it.
02:06 My Democratic colleagues will hide behind, "You must increase taxes."
02:10 My Republican colleagues will do nothing to actually limit spending in any meaningful
02:15 way.
02:16 They'll just talk about ultimately needing to deal with mandatory spending one day and
02:19 not do anything to deal with the spending issues now.
02:23 Now, where I depart from my friend from Arizona, respectfully, who's no longer on the floor,
02:29 but where I depart is – maybe not depart – where I want to be more clear is the questions
02:35 when we have debates on the floor of the House about spending items in what we call discretionary,
02:42 that is the stuff that we can touch, the accounts, the Department of Defense, some of these issues.
02:48 My issue with that is less about mounting debt, although it's a part of it.
02:53 It's that you're funding the demise of our prosperity.
02:58 You're funding the bureaucrats who are at war with us.
03:01 You're funding that which is undermining our ability to create economic growth and
03:07 live freely, to get out from under that financial morass.
03:10 You're not going to really address the debt problem by saving $5 billion on some small
03:17 item, but what you are going to do is you're going to stop the interference of the American
03:23 people.
03:24 Let me give you some examples.
03:25 If you're a hardworking American out there and have a family of four and you're a plumber
03:30 in San Marcos, Texas, which I represent part of, and you're just trying to go about doing
03:35 your job.
03:36 You need a pickup truck, you need to put all your stuff in it, you need to be able to drive
03:39 around.
03:40 We're making that pickup truck impossible to afford.
03:44 We're making it literally impossible to afford.
03:47 We're putting all of these requirements and demands in the vehicles.
03:50 We're now going to make it where you've got to have electric vehicles with tailpipe rules
03:54 and mandating it as they pile up on lots, and they're getting more expensive.
03:58 You want to go get your windshield replaced?
03:59 It's like $1,500 now.
04:01 Instead, it used to be $200 or $300.
04:02 Why?
04:03 Because it's got all sorts of mandates and requirements and gadgets in the windshield.
04:07 Now, they're going to mandate the vehicles have automatic braking.
04:10 Like, every time you do that, you make this stuff more expensive.
04:14 The market should bear that out.
04:16 The market should sort that out.
04:17 If you want a vehicle that has automatic braking, great, pay for it.
04:20 But the vast majority of Americans would say, "No, I can't afford that.
04:23 I just want a simple car."
04:25 But we're killing the ability of the average family to afford life, and it matters.
04:33 This is the problem.
04:35 What we have become in the House of Representatives, what we have become is the House of perpetuating
04:42 corporate cronyism and the enrichment of a handful of folks at the expense of hardworking
04:48 American families.
04:49 And then I'll have some of my colleagues who will throw out these random statements like,
04:54 "We should read the philosophers of the conservatives of the past, who were the traditionalists
04:59 who were rational in what they believed in limited government, not the radical populists
05:04 of today."
05:06 I think that misses the entire point.
05:09 It is not populist to believe we should stop spending money we don't have, driving up inflation,
05:15 driving down the value of the dollar, and putting a tax on the hardworking American
05:19 family.
05:20 It's not populist to say that we shouldn't regulate our entire lives out of existence
05:25 with expensive vehicles and all sorts of demands on what you can and can't do, which makes
05:31 things more expensive, or all of the green climate agenda that is empowering China, undermining
05:36 our ability to have affordable energy.
05:38 That's not populism.
05:40 It's not populism to say that maybe, just maybe, if you're going to send $95 billion
05:45 overseas to fund war, maybe you should have to pay for that.
05:51 That's not populist.
05:52 It's rational.
05:54 You can question the war.
05:56 You can say that we should be focusing on America first, securing our borders first.
06:00 Maybe you could say that's populist.
06:02 I think it's rational.
06:04 It's sovereignty.
06:06 The founders, and importantly, the conservative thought leaders of the 20th century, like
06:10 Russell Kirk, believed that you actually do have to have institutions, yes, but you believe
06:17 in sovereignty.
06:18 You believe in the rule of law.
06:20 You believe that there are supposed to be limits, limits to what you do in feeding your appetite.
06:29 But what are our limits?
06:31 I'm sitting here in an empty chamber, but my friend who's serving as the speaker at
06:35 the moment, what are our limits?
06:38 What limits are we placing on this place?
06:41 To my friends who voted for, in continuing wars around the world, $95 billion, who paid
06:50 for it?
06:51 Your grandkids, your kids, you, you paid for it by printing money.
06:57 We did not pay for it.
06:58 We printed money to give it away.
07:01 Same thing with the first $113 billion for Ukraine.
07:06 Same thing for virtually everything we're doing.
07:09 And I ask my colleagues, I've had some supporters, particularly ones of financial means, who
07:15 have called and said, "Chip, why could you abandon the people of Ukraine?
07:19 We must stop Putin."
07:21 I say, "Great.
07:22 Are you interested in having a 70% marginal tax rate next year to pay for it?"
07:27 Crickets on the other end of the phone.
07:31 We've lost perspective on what we're supposed to do here responsibly in this chamber.
07:37 That's the truth.
07:39 And while we sit here, and while we move a few bills across the floor, and while we've
07:45 just passed a massive foreign aid package, unpaid for, that funds both sides of the war
07:51 in Israel, gives $9 billion used by Hamas, used to have refugees, the Palestinian refugees
07:58 moving to the United States, funding both sides of that conflict, while we fund Ukraine,
08:04 where we have no clear mission, no evidence that we can produce enough ammo fast enough
08:09 to be able to help them when they're getting out shelled no matter what, and they're running
08:14 out of men.
08:15 Okay, even if you accept that all of that might result in some improvement, we're funding
08:21 all of that.
08:22 We just voted on all of that.
08:24 We just voted on an anti-Semitism resolution, which codifies thought speech, so we can pat
08:31 ourselves on the back and say, "Look at what we did.
08:33 Look what we did."
08:35 People feel good about it.
08:37 But you didn't do a damn thing, and in fact, you made things worse because you just empowered
08:41 the federal government to go after thought speech.
08:45 So we do all of that right after what did we do?
08:48 Passed a massive omnibus spending bill, $1.7 trillion in two omnibus packages, funded a
08:53 $200 million for a new FBI headquarters, an FBI which is out of control.
08:59 We do all those things.
09:00 What is happening in the meantime?
09:03 What is happening right now?
09:05 What is happening right now is our borders are wide open.
09:08 The people in Texas are still feeling it every single day.
09:14 We're dealing with the reality of roughly 1,000 to 1,600 people a day, 1,000 to 1,600
09:25 people a day being paroled into the United States.
09:31 What that means is, nobody out there in the real world knows what that means.
09:36 It means that there's a provision in the law, supposedly there for a case-by-case basis
09:41 to help a few people.
09:43 The Biden administration is blatantly, unlawfully, illegally using that provision to expand it
09:50 and dump literally 1,000 to 1,600 people a day.
09:56 We believe 400,000 over the last year, according to the reports that we have, being dumped
10:02 into the United States under what is called parole.
10:06 And guess what?
10:08 How did Lake and Riley's killer get into the United States?
10:12 Parole.
10:14 There have been dozens of examples of individuals who are paroled into the United States under
10:19 the Biden administration's policies who have gone on to kill, assault, and harm and undermine
10:28 the security of Americans.
10:31 Think about that.
10:32 That's what's happening right now, allegedly, on our watch.
10:37 And the fact is, we could have done something about it.
10:41 A year ago this Saturday, Republicans passed what we call H.R. 2, which is the bill number
10:47 for border security.
10:50 It was a strong bill that would have closed the ability of the Biden administration to
10:55 abuse parole.
10:57 It would have closed their ability to abuse asylum.
11:00 It would have ended the abuse of the unaccompanied alien children to use them as essentially
11:06 a hall pass to get into the United States.
11:10 It would have fundamentally ended the Biden administration's abuse of law to dump people
11:15 into the United States to the tune of something like four and a half million people who have
11:20 been released into the United States under the Biden administration.
11:24 We did that.
11:25 Republicans did that.
11:26 And we did that after conservatives worked, worked hard to work with the Speaker to force
11:31 this body of Republicans to walk away from the amnesty-driven, chamber-of-commerce-driven
11:38 failure of the last two decades and pass a strong border security measure.
11:45 That bill is sitting over in the Senate, where Senate Democrats refuse to move it.
11:52 Well, they hide behind a sham piece of legislation which would not secure the border of the United
11:56 States so they can try to blame Republicans in an election year.
12:05 But what Republicans have failed to do is use the leverage of the power of purse to
12:13 force our Democratic colleagues in the Senate and the Biden administration to come to the
12:18 table and deal with the border crisis.
12:21 Despite the rhetoric of our own leadership saying that we would do that.
12:27 We have fully funded the government at debt-increasing levels, busting the caps that were put into
12:36 law, and we're funding the government that is abusing our borders and dumping people
12:41 into the United States unlawfully, paying off student loans unlawfully to the tune of
12:48 $700 billion to $1.4 trillion, while we rack up now $34.5 trillion of debt, barreling towards
12:55 $35 trillion every three months, more interest than we pay on the national defense, almost
13:01 $1 trillion of interest, barreling towards $2 trillion to $3 trillion of interest, all
13:05 while our retirees are growing, demands on Medicare are growing, cost prices of health
13:11 care are going up.
13:14 That's all happening right now in real time, and what are we doing about it?
13:19 And this is a question that I want to ask my Republican colleagues.
13:23 If the American people look at our Democratic colleagues and say, "Man, that's insanity.
13:33 We can't do that.
13:34 That's crazy stuff."
13:36 They want to have all sorts of woke policies and DEI, and they want to let criminals out,
13:40 and they want wide-open borders, and they want to keep spending gobs of money, and they
13:46 want to undermine our Western civilization, our way of life.
13:51 They go down to every issue and say, "Man, that's crazy.
13:54 I don't want that."
13:56 So they say, "Well, we've got to turn to Republicans, so let's vote for Republicans."
13:59 Let's say that happens.
14:00 Let's say we're fortunate enough for that to happen with large enough numbers that we
14:04 have the majority of the House, the majority of the Senate, and the White House.
14:10 What are we going to do?
14:16 I will bet you a significant amount that you will hear excuses out of this chamber by Republicans
14:30 in January with a newly-minted majority here in the Senate and in the White House.
14:37 They will say the following, "Chip, we don't have 60 votes in the Senate.
14:43 What you want can't be done.
14:46 Chip, we have divisions in our own caucus, our own Republican majority.
14:54 We can't pass everything you want to pass and then get it through the Senate and send
14:58 it to the President.
14:59 So we're going to have to send over this compromise."
15:04 It's been happening for decades.
15:07 The reason our borders are wide open, it didn't just materialize one day that Joe Biden just
15:13 woke up and decided to open them up.
15:16 It's been decades in the making with support from Republicans because they were too much
15:23 in the pocket of the Chamber of Commerce.
15:27 And they were sitting down on the Rio Grande with a "no trespassing" sign and then over
15:31 here with a sign saying, "Wink, wink, help wanted, come on in, we don't care about the border."
15:36 That was happening.
15:37 I know because I saw it.
15:39 I saw it as a Texan.
15:41 I saw it as an American.
15:42 I saw it as a staffer on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
15:47 As a Chief of Staff to Ted Cruz.
15:50 I saw the amnesty bills.
15:52 I saw the desire to have cheap labor at the expense of sovereignty.
15:57 But let's talk for a minute about that cheap labor.
16:01 I keep hearing from all my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, frankly, how important
16:07 it is for us to continue to have a flow of people across our border, legal or illegal,
16:13 because "we need the workers."
16:16 Have you looked at what's happening to jobs?
16:21 Jobs for Americans, American-born workers, post-COVID is flat or down.
16:32 The actual engagement in the workforce, flat or down.
16:37 Yes, there's growth from migrants to try to catch up on the number, but what we are doing
16:45 is we're paying people not to work.
16:48 We're paying kids to sit in their room, basement, whatever, playing Fortnite.
16:52 Kids, they're in their 20s.
16:54 We have low workforce participation from American citizens and workers, while we try to then
17:01 bring people in who, by the way, then use the social welfare state, who then have massive
17:07 demands on the education system.
17:10 How do I know that?
17:11 I live in Texas.
17:13 I see the schools.
17:14 I see the rolls.
17:17 Tomorrow, in the Budget Committee, we're going to have a hearing on the cost, the impact
17:21 of illegal immigration.
17:23 Kinney County, Texas, just a little bit southwest of San Antonio, which I represent.
17:28 We're going to have a witness here tomorrow from Kinney County walking us through roughly
17:35 these numbers.
17:36 The crime that they were dealing with in 2021, pre-Biden, was about 140-something crimes
17:45 a year that they had to deal with.
17:48 They're now at 15,000.
17:51 Now, that's a lot of criminal trespass that the Operation Lone Star and the State Department
17:58 of Public Safety are trying to work to manage, but that's what they're dealing with.
18:02 That's what they're dealing with in their court systems.
18:05 I can sit here and walk you through.
18:06 We'll have a hearing tomorrow.
18:07 I won't do it here.
18:08 Walk you through the impact on the schools, the hospitals, all of the social services.
18:14 Anybody who does a legitimate analysis of all of those costs compared to the taxes,
18:21 sales taxes, which so many of my colleagues hang their hat on and say, "This is causing
18:27 economic activity and they're paying taxes."
18:29 Yes, there is some of that, but we have created the welfare state, which Milton Friedman famously
18:37 said, "I'm all for open borders," if you get rid of the welfare state.
18:44 Now, that's pre-9/11, so let's say you have security.
18:48 You vet everybody.
18:49 You know who's coming here.
18:50 Do they want to harm us?
18:51 There's hardworking people they want to achieve the American dream.
18:54 If you have a zero welfare state, I'd say, "Come on.
19:01 I don't care where you're from.
19:02 I don't care what you look like.
19:03 Come on."
19:04 Because if you're coming to America and you're making your way and you're going to work hard,
19:08 then you're going to follow our values and our principles, regardless of your background,
19:12 regardless of your religion, because you're going to believe in the rule of law.
19:17 You're going to believe in economic prosperity.
19:19 You're going to believe in free enterprise and capitalism.
19:21 You're most likely going to believe in God and everything that made this country great
19:25 because you're coming here seeking the American dream.
19:28 But we are turning the American dream upside down.
19:30 We are destroying that which migrants come to this country to achieve when they come
19:35 here, to believe in this country, believe in the rule of law, because that's what the
19:40 American dream is built around, and we're completely destroying it.
19:44 That's the truth.
19:46 And it's happening right now while we sit here and fiddle while America burns.
19:52 I'm going to say it over and over and over again until at least my Republican colleagues
19:59 who try to pretend to give a crap about the border actually do something about it.
20:08 How many campaign ads, how many speeches are going to be given by my Republican colleagues
20:12 between now and November about what they will do to secure the border?
20:17 And what are they doing right now?
20:19 Shrugging.
20:21 Sorry.
20:23 Can't do anything.
20:25 It's Biden.
20:27 What are we going to do?
20:30 How many more Americans are going to die while we shrug?
20:33 Well, thank God the founders didn't shrug.
20:36 Thank God the men at Lexington and Concord didn't just shrug and say, "Oh, well, I guess
20:40 there's a tyrant."
20:42 Thank God the boys at Normandy didn't shrug and say, "Why the hell are we across the ocean
20:46 and we got to go take out this crazy guy, Hitler?"
20:48 Thank God they did it.
20:50 Thank God the boys at the Alamo didn't shrug.
20:53 But we're shrugging it off.
20:56 We're pretending it's not happening.
21:00 I mean, is anybody paying attention to what's happening in London?
21:05 I'm going to say it here on the floor of the House to get the scorn of people when I say,
21:10 "You've got a massive Muslim takeover of the United Kingdom going on right before our eyes."
21:16 You say, "Chip, well, what is wrong with that?"
21:18 Well, I've got some pretty strong concerns about Sharia law and whether that will be
21:24 forced upon the American people, in this case, the people of the United Kingdom.
21:30 I've got pretty strong concerns about people who want to see Israel's destruction,
21:36 who were happy about October 7th, who were elected in the United Kingdom.
21:43 Some might say that we've seen that here in the United States.
21:47 What are we going to do about that?
21:50 We have 51.5 million people who are foreign-born in the United States.
21:54 They have about 20 to 25 million kids.
21:57 That puts that well over 20-something percent of our population.
22:00 It's the highest such number in the history of our country.
22:03 People say, "Well, isn't that great?"
22:05 Is it?
22:07 Are we teaching people about Western civilization?
22:12 Are we teaching people about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the rule of law?
22:15 Are we teaching them Western values?
22:16 Are we teaching them God exists?
22:18 Are we teaching them the importance of freedom?
22:22 Or are we teaching an entire generation or two or three to run around complaining about
22:28 what's wrong and why the entire world is against them because of their skin color,
22:33 their sex, their supposed gender identity, whatever the hell category we create
22:39 to make people have an excuse for not just stepping up and achieving the American Dream?
22:47 But that's what we're doing.
22:50 Our borders are wide open.
22:51 People go, "Well, you know, it's bad.
22:53 I mean, it's bad, Chip.
22:54 What do you do about it?"
22:55 Stop it.
22:57 Like, actually stop it.
23:00 But we literally just gave away every ounce of leverage we have.
23:04 Why?
23:06 To fund Ukraine.
23:08 Unpaid for.
23:09 With no clear mission.
23:12 We said, "Who cares about America's borders?
23:14 Sorry, Chip, we couldn't get it done."
23:16 We had to go back to the people of Texas and say, "Well, sorry, we'll get them next time."
23:22 Look, nobody I know, conservative, moderate, Democrat, nobody comes here expecting to get
23:29 everything you want.
23:31 It is a body of representatives.
23:32 It's the worst form of government except for all the others.
23:34 I get it.
23:36 But I'm sick and tired of watching this play play out the same way every single time.
23:42 American people get screwed and get left holding the bag.
23:46 That's the truth.
23:48 Every single hardworking family across this country right now who can't afford groceries,
23:53 can't afford electricity, can't afford to buy a car, can't send their kid to a school
23:57 that they can believe will teach them the right thing, teach them God exists, teach
24:01 them their country's great, even just teach them that there's man and woman.
24:06 No, none of that.
24:08 We're funding this radical climate agenda that's destroying our ability to have energy.
24:14 Right now, you're not going to have an internal combustion engine in 10 years because these
24:18 radical nuts are killing your ability to do it, and Republicans are sitting back and shrugging,
24:25 patting ourselves on the back for increasing mining for rare earth minerals in Minnesota
24:31 or around this country, rather than fully opening up American oil and gas, building
24:39 American nuclear power.
24:43 It's absurd.
24:46 It's ridiculous.
24:51 The average American right now is wondering whether or not they can actually achieve the
24:57 American dream.
25:00 And I want to know whether my colleagues in this chamber, Democrat or Republican, would
25:05 come to the microphone and give a rip-roaring speech right now about why every American
25:12 should believe they're going to be able to achieve the American dream.
25:16 Because I will tell you right now, unless we lead, unless we take this moment to reverse
25:23 the direction we're headed, change trajectory, massively shift the direction of our country,
25:29 that our kids and our grandkids will not be able to achieve the American dream.
25:34 They won't.
25:36 You'll chip, "Well, how does that sell?"
25:39 Because what I'm selling is a duty to fight.
25:43 What I'm selling is a duty to go fight to make sure those American kids and grandkids
25:48 can achieve the American dream, to fight for sovereignty, to fight for citizenship, to
25:53 introduce legislation to demand that citizens only vote, to stand up and fight for the opportunity
25:59 to go carry out your life because you can afford to do it because you've gotten rid
26:03 of all of the regulations that are constraining the hardworking American.
26:08 Go get rid of the corporate cronyism, enriching the insurance companies, enriching all the
26:13 big corporations across this country, and hospitals and pharma, and strip it away.
26:18 Get rid of the middlemen and empower doctors and patients and get all that crap out of
26:22 the way so people can actually go get health care.
26:25 Do that.
26:27 Cut the government bureaucracy.
26:29 Get rid of the bureaucrats.
26:30 Get rid of the DEI.
26:32 Get rid of the critical race theory.
26:34 Go to war with the bureaucrats, metaphorically, to stop destroying the American dream.
26:42 Don't just sit here and come here and give speeches about some basketball team that won
26:47 the national championship.
26:48 Go home and say, "Look at me.
26:50 I'm going to give a speech about the basketball championship."
26:52 Who cares?
26:54 Their parents can't afford to live.
26:59 We have a duty in the people's house to do something.
27:03 The iceberg is right in front of us.
27:05 My friend Mr. Schweikert just explained it.
27:09 We are massively upside down.
27:12 We are bleeding out of every port of our body in terms of money and debt.
27:16 Our borders are wide open.
27:18 We are increasingly unchurched.
27:20 Our schools are indoctrinating our kids.
27:22 Our universities are indoctrination camps.
27:24 They're essentially daycares for elitists.
27:28 And we just forgave their debts.
27:32 Student loans.
27:35 Every hardworking American out there deserves a representative that represents them.
27:42 Democrat or Republican, conservative, moderate, liberal.
27:45 Why are you here?
27:47 What's the point?
27:49 Why get elected?
27:50 Why get an election certificate?
27:54 The point is to stand up in defense of the rule of law and the Constitution.
27:58 If you say you believe in limited government, limit it.
28:02 If you say you believe in cutting spending, cut it.
28:06 If you say you believe in securing the border, secure it.
28:10 If you say you believe in a peace through strength,
28:13 then stop sending our military and our money in endless conflict
28:19 and instead build a strong military here, sparingly used,
28:24 make sure our men and women have the care when they get home,
28:28 and send a message around the world that when we use force, it'll be used quickly and massively.
28:35 This is what the people I represent want.
28:38 I don't want any more of these feel-good bills because some organization declares a week.
28:43 Happens all the time.
28:45 Teacher week, got to do a teacher bill.
28:47 Cop week, got to do a cop bill.
28:50 None of that is going to make this country freer or stronger or more secure.
28:57 We took an oath to the Constitution.
29:01 I don't want any more excuses about, "Well, Chip, this only offends the Commerce Clause a little bit.
29:07 This one's better than that other version."
29:10 Stop doing it.
29:12 Go the other direction. Stop selling watered-down Democrat light
29:18 and go inspire the American people with something better
29:21 so that the kids of this generation can get their lives out of these phones
29:25 and get their lives out of the despair of wondering whether they're going to be able to have the American dream
29:30 and give them hope that if they go out and they work, and they work hard,
29:34 and they save money, they're going to buy a house, have a family,
29:38 they're going to get health care because they worked hard and they were able to do it.
29:42 That's why migrants come here.
29:44 Stop paying people not to work.
29:46 Stop the endless nonsense and drivel that comes out of this body in the name of doing something.
29:55 And instead, stand up and fight for the American people.
29:59 Don't give lip service on June 6th because it's the 80th anniversary
30:03 about what those boys did when they walked into a wall of bullets.
30:07 Stand up and do a fraction of what they did
30:10 by having the nerve to vote no on something, even though somebody might tweet something mean about it.
30:19 I yield back.
30:21 Thank you.
30:23 The speaker's announced policy of January 9th, 2023.
30:29 The chair recognizes the gentleman from California, Mr. Conn.