You may have noticed a growing popularity for day time clubbing events in recent months. It would appear nightlife is changing, with a shift towards the day time for socialising and dancing.
In this episode of Scran, we learn more about this new trend, where it came from and what impact it is having on the local industry.
First up I speak to Line of Duty actress Vicky McClure and partner the writer/producer Jonny Owen about their day-time clubbing experience Day Fever.
In this episode of Scran, we learn more about this new trend, where it came from and what impact it is having on the local industry.
First up I speak to Line of Duty actress Vicky McClure and partner the writer/producer Jonny Owen about their day-time clubbing experience Day Fever.
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00:00I'm joined by Vicky McClure and Jonny Owen. Hi guys, how are you?
00:08Good, thanks. How are you?
00:10Good, yeah, thank you. Every time I do this I always feel like I really need to clear these shelves behind me. There's so much behind me.
00:19But yeah, we're here to chat about Day Fever, which is your daytime clubbing event that is coming to Glasgow and Edinburgh within the next couple of months.
00:28So for anyone that doesn't already know, hasn't read about it and hasn't attended, could you guys just talk us through what it's all about?
00:36Yeah, so basically it's a daytime nightclub, as odd as that sounds. It's to create that world we all grew up with.
00:44We all went clubbing, didn't we, in the 70s, 80s and 90s. And it's the same music from the era.
00:50It's an earlier part of the day. It's usually from 2 till 7 or 3 till 8.
00:54But it's songs you've recognised, sort of the world you know. You can have a pint if you want to as well, have something to eat at some of them.
01:00But it's just creating sort of what we used to love going to, sort of dancing and singing and all those kind of things in the daytime really.
01:06And yeah, it seems to have gone down really well, doesn't it?
01:08Very well.
01:11Yeah, so you've had satellite shows throughout, for Christmas, throughout England.
01:17And you're coming up to Scotland and Edinburgh and Glasgow. And they look like they're going to be pretty big. Is that right?
01:24Edinburgh is the biggest yet now, already. So Edinburgh is looking like it's going to be sort of north of 2,000 people, which is extraordinary.
01:32I mean, some of the London ones we thought were big at 1,500, then Nottingham got to 1,750.
01:38And we were like, oh, these are big shows. But Edinburgh is going to be the biggest. So congratulations to Scotland.
01:43Can't wait to come up, really.
01:47And what are you looking forward to most about it? Because I know that from a performing point of view, people in bands and stuff say the Scottish crowds are really good.
01:54Are you sort of expecting that kind of vibe?
01:58Yes, well, I'm a McClure, so I know the Scottish vibe. It runs within me.
02:05And, you know, the crowd is similarly quite the same everywhere we've been so far.
02:11And that is just everybody really wants to have a good dance.
02:16You know, it really is what it says on the tin. There's no seating.
02:20You know, there's not like chairs everywhere and you're not sort of making your way around tables.
02:25It's just a dance floor. And I, you know, I just I've spent a bit of time through my career in Scotland.
02:33And I've always found Glasgow feels very similar to Nottingham.
02:37There's always been the same sort of vibe. And I love the tagline. It's about people.
02:42It really does feel like that. Edinburgh, I've spent some time in and it's, you know, such a vibrant city.
02:49So there's no doubt that because Edinburgh one is going to be the biggest one.
02:53But both cities are just going to go off. I think I think they're ready to party.
02:58And it's, you know, it's a weird kind of concept because we've got lighter nights now.
03:02You come out and it's really, you know, it's like daytime.
03:06And then people will go off and maybe get some food or I don't know, there's still half the day to go.
03:11So it's it's a really fun concept. I hope people enjoy it as much as they have done so far.
03:19Yes. So it's basically you basically you have your dance, you go out, you have your dance, you have your good time and then you're back home for your tea.
03:25Right. So if you're if you're if you're going to be hungover, you're going to do it in the evening.
03:29Yeah. I mean, I think I think, you know, that's the big thing is, you know, your Sunday is still pretty much OK,
03:35because often we're in bed and we buy about sort of 10, 10, almost 10, because you've danced all day as well.
03:40I mean, I mean, all the steps you do on your floor. I did 19,000 steps on the Nottingham Day Fever.
03:45And it's it was a much smaller event. I can only imagine how many we're going to do.
03:51I mean, I know the cities. I was really excited about going to Scotland as well.
03:54I've been going to Glasgow since I was sort of in my teens, really.
03:57I was part of a football team in Merthyr Tydfil that had an exchange with a team in Glasgow.
04:01And we used to go up every Easter weekend and they'd come down on Scottish Bank all the weekend in the autumn.
04:06So I know the city really well. I've been going there sort of all my most of my life, really.
04:10And Edinburgh as well, obviously, because of the the rugby.
04:13I've been going to Edinburgh sort of every two years as well.
04:16So I know the two cities really well and I love the people, as Vicky said.
04:20And I know I'm Welsh. You always get a special welcome up there, if you're Welsh, people say.
04:24But you do you do find the audiences in Scotland are fantastic.
04:28All bands talk about it, don't they? So the fact they sold out so quickly.
04:32I mean, Glasgow went within about three hours. And the fact that Edinburgh is the biggest is really nice.
04:36Actually, that's sort of summed Scotland up, really.
04:39One that sold out, one of the quickest and the other that's the biggest. I think it's great.
04:44And so for anybody that knows you for your respective careers,
04:48has there been an element of surprise that you guys are doing this or is this something that's just,
04:52you know, if people know you think, yeah, this makes sense.
04:55I mean, Vicky has got the Dementia Choir.
04:58So she's sort of has this wonderful tagline of music is medicine that she says, you know.
05:02So it does sort of live in our world. There's no doubt about it.
05:05You know, and I was massively inspired by what she did and the way that music has helped that in such a sort of,
05:10you know, incredibly almost medical sense, you know, that it helps people with dementia.
05:14And the Dementia Choir have done fantastic. They've been on television.
05:17So we've kind of we do inhabit that world, I think, in a sense.
05:20And I kind of had this idea milling around for ages and was sort of saying to Vicky,
05:24oh, you know, I got this idea about a daytime nightclub.
05:26You know, I think I think people would really enjoy it. And she was like, oh, yes.
05:29But then I met my mates from Sheffield, you know, really bright lads.
05:32John McClure from Revenant of the Makers, his brother Chris and their friend Jim.
05:35Jim had been involved with the Tramlines Festival.
05:37So they sort of said to me, look, let's try it in Sheffield before Christmas.
05:41So we did. It sold out again within a few hours.
05:44We were a bit like, oh, is it a Christmas party? Was it a fluke?
05:47So we tried and was it in January to see if we could get tickets, you know.
05:51So because that's a really difficult month and they all flew out as well, right across the country.
05:55So we thought, well, you know what? There's a market for it.
05:57You know, there's a market for people wanting to go out, have a good time, have a sing song.
06:01I'd say about 75 percent of our audiences are women.
06:04And I think, you know, one of my mates laughed and he said to me, you know,
06:07I think all the blokes are off watching football, playing golf,
06:09but the girls, they want to go and dance and sing.
06:12That's what they want to do.
06:13So they've all sort of came to this and it's fantastic.
06:16As soon as the doors open, they pile onto the dance floor.
06:19There's no sort of, you know, waiting period.
06:21And they're away, they're dancing and singing.
06:23And it's just great to see them having a good time, isn't it?
06:25Yeah. And, you know, it's a reasonable ticket price.
06:31Yeah, that was important.
06:32It is important because we're not putting on a great show, if you like.
06:37There's some brilliant visuals that go along with the day.
06:41So it kind of, you know, you can immerse yourself back into those times,
06:45like adverts and footballing moments, you know, just moments over the last sort of 30, 40 years.
06:53But, you know, actually, it's your dance floor.
06:56It's your day. It's a tenner a ticket. Enjoy it.
06:59And it's great. You know, people come with big crowds, whether it's friends and family.
07:02We had a lady called Irene who celebrated her 80th birthday there with her family.
07:08You know, we've got hemp parties now.
07:10We've got groups of people that are coming for their birthdays.
07:13And, you know, some people turn up dressed to the nines
07:17and some people turn up in trainers and jeans and a T-shirt because they just want to go out.
07:23It's like just wear what you want, be who you want to be and have a good dance.
07:28And, you know, it's quite a simple concept, but I think it's effective.
07:32Yeah, I think the £10 thing was really important for us.
07:34That was something we battled really hard for.
07:36But the only venue that's not £10 is London.
07:38And that's because they said to us, nobody will take you seriously in London if it's only £10.
07:42It's like being free.
07:43So, you know, and we couldn't have it free because obviously, you know, for health and safety.
07:48And, you know, we would see what's happened with it being £10 and we sell out.
07:51So we wouldn't have been able to sort of like cope with the numbers, I don't think, if it had been free.
07:55But we wanted it to be £10.
07:57You know, I've always, I feel we're living in a cost of living crisis, you know.
08:00We're taxed to high heaven at the moment.
08:02I thought, well, the one thing I can control, us as Davey, is the ticket price.
08:06So I thought, let's make it £10 so that people don't feel like, you know, they're being sort of like ripped off.
08:11I think a lot of gigs, a lot of problem with gigs, you hear from people sort of booking fees and things,
08:15they end up paying £40, £50, £60 to go and watch something.
08:18I think that's a bit unfair, really.
08:20I feel that, you know, I feel passionately about, you know, nightclubs and pubs.
08:24I think they're really important in British social history.
08:27I hate it when a pub or a nightclub shuts down.
08:30I just think there's so many memories and important things that happen.
08:33So we really wanted to sort of help certain venues.
08:36And we got a great response from the venue saying, look, you know, we were empty.
08:39You know, nothing was happening.
08:40And suddenly it's full and people of our generation do spend a few bob on the beer, which is great.
08:46The bar takings have been very good, apparently.
08:49Yeah, so I was going to say as well, it sounds great that it's so inclusive
08:54and especially you can come and wear what you want.
08:56And it's like a whole mix of people over 30.
08:59But yes, obviously there's drinking element to it as well.
09:02So you're still out dancing and clubbing.
09:03So people are spending at the bar as much as they probably always would be if it was like 9, 10, 11 o'clock at night.
09:09Yeah, that's exactly it.
09:11I mean, I think we've had record takings, I believe, in London, Sheffield.
09:17I think Nottingham did really well.
09:18So, yeah, I think our generation, as we call it, the age group that goes there,
09:22they certainly like, you know, they save up for it and they want to go out and have a few beers.
09:26You know, there's not a lot of drinking water and standing around like you do in case you get drunk.
09:29No, but I do.
09:30I feel like when I go, because it feels like quite worky.
09:33I just think, God, you know, don't stop putting on some crazy tunes now because you've had too many beers.
09:39Yeah, I know.
09:41So you're talking about the state of the nation today and the pubs and clubs closing.
09:48And I know that nightclubs, especially, are going through a bit of a hard time.
09:51And statistics are saying that younger people aren't necessarily going out clubbing as much,
09:54which kind of makes sense given how much everything costs.
09:57I mean, when I used to go out clubbing, you could get pounds of drink.
09:59So, you know, you didn't have a lot of change from a tenner, but you'd had a good night.
10:06So are you getting the vibe from these venues that this sort of event is maybe something to continue on
10:13that might help sort of lift them up a little bit?
10:19Yeah, absolutely.
10:20I mean, I think, you know, the demand has been massive and I think people want it once a month.
10:25I think once a month is enough for people to want to go out of that generation and what we want to do.
10:30So the idea is to keep them going.
10:32I like the idea of people sort of building up the social side of it as well, getting to know one another
10:37and having that there in your life that you can get along to.
10:39You can have a sing, you can have a dance.
10:41Again, you know, these are all things that massively help with mental health.
10:45You know, we're very good on these days of talking about things like that.
10:49But the idea that there's something you know you can go to is great fun.
10:52It's really safe.
10:53It was really important to me that, you know, it was going to be a safe environment,
10:56professionally done, you know, and you can go there and the songs you're going to recognize.
11:00I'm not really that bothered anymore about hearing super cool stuff.
11:03I'm too old.
11:04I'm 52.
11:05I'm OK.
11:06I'd rather go along and have a singing song.
11:08Somebody described it as it being like a wedding but without the service, you know, that kind of music.
11:13So you will know the songs, you know, you'll recognize them.
11:15And that's what's been great is just people singing along and dancing and having a good time, you know.
11:19There have been events in the past, you know, like sort of with very specific music genres,
11:23having all day events, and that's fantastic.
11:25And they cater for that audience.
11:28But I wanted to cater for an audience where you knew you'd get along
11:32and there's no kind of like hierarchy.
11:34You're not going to hear sort of songs you don't know.
11:36You're going to hear, come on, Eileen.
11:38You know, you are going to hear those songs and you're going to be able to sing along
11:41and have a dance and sort of like.
11:43And I think that's been the thing.
11:45Vicky tapped on it there.
11:46You can come how you want.
11:47You can dance, sing along, you know, have a good time and just relax,
11:50really be with like-minded people.
11:55So when you, did you guys have a favourite?
11:58So I was going to say the risk of sounding like Vernon Kay,
12:01because I listened to dance songs in the 90s on iPlayer
12:03and he's always talking about the sticky floor nightclubs.
12:06Did you guys have a favourite club when you were younger?
12:09And have you sort of found newer venues and travelling around that you now really like?
12:16Yeah, well, my, back in,
12:20I'd say probably the most famous club in Nottingham is the Palais.
12:25And very sadly, it's come to a close very recently.
12:29Yeah, it's called Prism now.
12:31But over the years it had like, you know,
12:33sort of it had one of the revolving dance floors.
12:36And I remember my nana, you know,
12:39who passed in the late 90s talked about meeting my granddad there.
12:44And, you know, it's like Johnny was saying before, it's a real shame.
12:48It's not the nightclub it used to be.
12:50It's no longer a nightclub now.
12:52It's come to a close, but it's really sad because what's the alternative?
12:57That was the most prolific sort of famous nightclub that we had in Nottingham.
13:02There were some other great clubs that I used to go to called The Bomb.
13:05We used to go to sort of Lizard Lounge, Faces, all those kinds of places.
13:11But, yeah, I mean, it's part of,
13:14it's very much part of my memories back in the day when I used to go out.
13:18It was, yeah, the good old days, wasn't it?
13:21But they're back now.
13:22Well, I was going to say that the club in Merthyr that I went to
13:25is called Coolers after the name of the jail in The Great Escape.
13:31But the building itself was always called the Kirk House.
13:34And it's still the same building.
13:35And that was a nightclub, as Vicky was saying.
13:37It's well over 100 years old.
13:39And my grandfather used to go there.
13:42My father went there, and then I went there.
13:44And now my daughter goes to Coolers.
13:47So the same building, people of my hometown of Merthyr Tydfil
13:50have gone there for over a century.
13:52That's how important it is.
13:53And I think I'd protest in the street if that ever got shut down
13:56because it's a massive part of everybody's upbringing in the town.
13:59And it's always going to be my favorite nightclub
14:01because it was the first one I went to.
14:02It was when I first heard house music was coming over from Chicago.
14:05This is the late 80s.
14:06I remember thinking, oh, this is amazing.
14:09And when COVID was coming to an end in Wales,
14:13there was a long queue around the road of kids waiting to go into this nightclub.
14:18And I thought, yes, Coolers still lives.
14:20And that's so important.
14:22I believe those clubs are.
14:23It's the only club really in that town that's lasted for decades.
14:28And I just think it's really important.
14:29Everybody that comes from Merthyr has got a story about going there
14:32for the first time and all that kind of stuff.
14:34So, you know, as Vicky said, these are places that our parents,
14:37grandparents went to as well.
14:39So they're really important, I think.
14:41Yeah.
14:42So just staying in the past,
14:45what was your drink of choice when you were out clubbing when you were younger?
14:52Something I probably couldn't even smell now,
14:54because it would make me feel ill.
14:57It was probably like 20-20 hooch and like Thunderbird,
15:05White Lightning, that kind of stuff.
15:07All the really cheap, that's all I could afford.
15:11Yeah, we used to have things to change.
15:13So we used to drink like Brains beer in Wales.
15:16It was a Welsh drink called Brains.
15:18And you'd have like ale in the nightclub.
15:21It wouldn't happen now.
15:22It's all lagers.
15:23This is like back then.
15:24So you'd have like Pints of Brains S.A., they'd call it,
15:28which apparently stood for Skelletack because it was quite strong.
15:32And then Worthington.
15:33So everything was on ale.
15:35It all works in a lagers now.
15:36So that would be, I'd have a pint of ale.
15:38A bit like you were saying earlier on, it was quite cheap at the time.
15:40That would have been about £1, £1.20 a pint.
15:42Yeah.
15:43To be fair, even on Saturday at Nottingham's Day Fever,
15:46they were selling hooch.
15:48And it's actually, I think it is quite, it's not strong.
15:53I've seen that.
15:54Strong, yeah.
15:55It's quite a light drink.
15:56It's probably a bit like pop.
15:59But I was like, oh, that's like back in the day.
16:01Alco Pops, wasn't it?
16:02Yeah, they're still selling hooch.
16:04Yeah, yeah.
16:05We'd always end on Alco Pops.
16:06We'd start on the beer.
16:07And then as the night wore on, you'd want something a bit sweeter.
16:10Yeah.
16:11So you'd end up with bottles of WKAD.
16:13Remember the Wicked and all that kind of stuff?
16:15Yeah, yeah.
16:16I remember one time, which goes to show about the placebo effect,
16:19we bought some J2O to end the night,
16:21which I didn't realise at the time was non-alcoholic.
16:23We were drinking it.
16:24We were like, hey, this is amazing.
16:26And then somebody pointed out, boy, that's not even alcoholic.
16:28And we're like, oh.
16:29Amazing.
16:30Yeah.
16:31They were the, yeah, they were.
16:33Yeah, exactly.
16:35But the, they had the same cans in there,
16:38so Red Stripe and stuff like that.
16:40Yeah, Red Stripe is my choice.
16:41Yeah.
16:42Yeah.
16:43So talking of hooch, I remember when it was on the news,
16:46it's being like, you know,
16:48oh, I can't believe they've released this, like,
16:50drink for young people that's alcoholic.
16:52Like, it was really, really, like, people weren't happy about it,
16:54were they?
16:55And it was funny to think that it's kind of come back again.
16:58Yeah.
16:59But it was that whole idea of like, oh, if you make drink nice to taste,
17:02the worst thing could happen.
17:04Because, I mean, when I was a kid,
17:06I remember drinking my first sort of beers at about 16, 17.
17:09You know, you start going to the local pub.
17:11And then, you know, you're heading towards your 18,
17:13and I'm in the first sort of legal beer at least.
17:15I remember thinking, this tastes awful.
17:17I'll never be able to drink this.
17:18It's dreadful stuff, you know?
17:20And you almost have to get used to sort of the taste, really,
17:23as you got a bit older.
17:24Whereas the alcohol pubs were dangerous because you drink that,
17:27and you think, oh, this is all right.
17:28Do you know what I mean?
17:29And it gets me half cut straight away.
17:31So, yeah, I do remember that sort of them coming in,
17:33and it being a big fuss about it.
17:34It was like the end of civilisation that we could all be drinking hooch.
17:37I don't remember it, but I do remember hooch from back in the day.
17:41Australian drink, I think.
17:42How is it?
17:43I can't remember.
17:44I remember it landing, yeah.
17:47And kind of on a similar vein,
17:49what was your 3 a.m., 4 a.m. sort of takeaway of choice,
17:54if you remember, or if you ate after clubbing when you were younger?
17:58Oh, yeah.
17:59Oh, yeah, I did.
18:00Definitely.
18:01It was always a kebab.
18:02It was always a doner.
18:03Was it?
18:04Like a doner kebab, dirty doner kebab.
18:06So I'm sure my age know, yeah.
18:08So I kind of just pre-date kebabs, really.
18:11Mid-80s.
18:13Wow.
18:14I know, I know.
18:15Kebabs.
18:16It was a fan, really, outside.
18:18Sounds so old now, yeah.
18:20We used to get a bag of chips, and if you were really feeling,
18:24if you had a bit of money left,
18:25like a curry sauce on the top or something like that,
18:27it was amazing.
18:28My mate used to do this great thing, my mate Alex, actually,
18:30who comes to the gigs, he used to say, like,
18:32this is the late 80s ago,
18:33if you are dancing with a girl when George is singing Careless Whispers,
18:38it's over, you may as well go and get some chips and head off
18:40for the slow song, you know?
18:42So that was sort of where we lived, really.
18:44It's like, let's get a bag of chips and then we'd walk home up the hill
18:47to where I lived with some chips and curry sauce.
18:50But then kebabs.
18:51And then when I got to my early 30s, wow, kebabs came into my life.
18:54Do you know what I mean?
18:55They're quite famous in Merthyr now, aren't they?
18:57So Merthyr does the best kebabs, apparently, in some of the valleys.
19:00People come from all over.
19:01There's like two or three shops, all very, very good.
19:03And everybody that comes, I go, have a kebab at the end of the night,
19:06especially a chicken shish.
19:07They all leave going, that was fantastic.
19:09So, yeah, Merthyr's got a good kebab.
19:13We had one not long ago.
19:14We had one not long ago as well, yeah.
19:17You need to come and visit for the nightclub and the kebabs then.
19:20It sounds great.
19:21Ah, yeah.
19:22Coolers, coolers and a kebab.
19:23Everybody in Merthyr will be going, yay!
19:29And just keep it on the food theme.
19:32We haven't done this in a while,
19:34but we have a quick fire round of questions about food.
19:37So there's five questions.
19:39If you just tell me the first thing that pops into your head.
19:42And I don't know if you want to do one each
19:45or whether I'll just take it in turns to ask you the different questions.
19:48You're welcome, pal.
19:50You're welcome, yeah, this is over.
19:54Okay, I'll do it turnabout.
19:56So I'll start with Johnny.
19:58So whenever I'm hungry, I think of...
20:04Steak.
20:05Steak.
20:08I thought you were going to say a kebab.
20:12If I was back in Merthyr, I would, baby.
20:16Vicky, comfort food for me is...
20:21Cereal.
20:23Nice.
20:24Johnny, my favourite...
20:28Sorry, say that again.
20:31Oh, she was just...
20:32I think there's a delay.
20:33Cereal, yeah, seeing how much she likes it.
20:37Johnny, my favourite childhood dessert is...
20:43Jelly.
20:48And Vicky, food heaven.
20:53Food heaven is my mum's Sunday dinner.
20:56That's not bad, actually.
20:58And Johnny, food hell.
21:01Food hell?
21:02Cheese and potato pie.
21:04Oh, yeah.
21:05Cheese and potato pie and Brussels sprouts.
21:08I'm not a fan of Brussels sprouts.
21:09Do you not like Brussels sprouts?
21:10Nah.
21:13I love a potato pie.
21:17This is great, keep going.
21:19I love it.
21:20No, that's it.
21:21So that's the questions, the five questions.
21:26Is there anything else you want to add that I've not maybe asked you
21:30or you want to just sort of mention?
21:33Well, as it's a Scottish...
21:35It's a Scotsman thing.
21:37I was talking the other day about...
21:38So my favourite meal is a cooked breakfast.
21:40We call it a cooked breakfast.
21:41The Irish call it a fried.
21:42The English call it sort of an English breakfast.
21:45But I think the Scottish breakfast is the best in the world
21:48because you've got haggis with it, which is amazing,
21:51with your black pudding, and then like a square potato thing.
21:55Yeah, the square potato.
21:56And a square sausage.
21:58Amazing.
21:59So I think Scotland leads the culinary world
22:02when it comes to breakfast.
22:03Absolutely.
22:04I'll also say that, obviously, being good friends
22:06with Martin Comston, I completely understand
22:10and can appreciate Iron Brew to its highest order.
22:13It's a hangover cure.
22:14It's a real hangover cure.
22:16It makes Martin's day if you take him and Iron Brew on to set.
22:21It does, doesn't it?
22:22It really does.
22:23But I love the taste of it.
22:25I was out once with Irving Welsh.
22:27We are name-dropping you, aren't we?
22:28Great mate of mine.
22:29And he took me for Guinness and oysters.
22:32So we were having oysters, and it was the first time, really,
22:34somebody was showing me, like, you know,
22:36maybe Irving was putting, like, little chopped onions
22:38and tabasco sauce.
22:39Stunning.
22:40I'm drinking Guinness.
22:41So, yeah, there's a few times the Scots have led us
22:44with their culinary knowledge, isn't there?
22:46So, yeah.
22:47But your breakfast's best in the world.
22:49No two ways about it.
22:50It's funny you say that because we spoke to Martin Comston
22:53and Phil a few weeks ago, and we asked him,
22:56we asked Martin about his favourite foods,
22:58and he's like a square sausage on a roll.
23:00And I just went on for ages about it.
23:02And I'm like, yeah, I mean, it's good.
23:04It's the right shape for a roll.
23:05Well, he likes to have dominoes.
23:08Huh?
23:09Dominoes.
23:10He likes chicken wings, doesn't he?
23:11He loves, he's like chicken wing mad.
23:12And, yeah, he's...
23:14Also, they do really nice pies in Scotland.
23:16Like, they're, like, a bit crispy on the top.
23:18You're making me hungry.
23:19I know, and they're meat.
23:21And my mate had four once in a day,
23:25and it got to the afternoon, and he was like,
23:27you've got to stop eating the pies.
23:29I could just eat eight of them.
23:30Do you know what I mean?
23:31So, we called him times four pie on text,
23:33saying, where's times four pie?
23:34But, yeah, they're something I always have.
23:37And I always do the thing of, like,
23:38putting sort of, like, lots of salt.
23:40There's a really good fish and chip shop
23:42just by Glasgow Central Station that we always go in,
23:46and they do deep-fried haggis.
23:48Oh, yes.
23:49So, I always have one of them.
23:50Actually, when I'm in Scotland,
23:53I totally embrace the culture of the food.
23:56And apparently, the best prawns, I think, in the world,
23:59loch fyne, I made mine.
24:01So, my mate Kevin Divine Dizzy, who's a very proud Glaswegian,
24:05and he said loch fyne is the best seafood.
24:08So, I was like, okay.
24:10So, yeah.
24:12That's our experience of Scotland and food.
24:14That's it.
24:17Just because you mentioned Irvine Welsh and Martin Comstead,
24:20are you expecting any famous friends to show up
24:22in your Glasgow or Edinburgh events?
24:24Well, we've asked them, and they said they're going to come.
24:26I mean, I'm hoping they're as good as they were.
24:28So, yeah, fingers crossed.
24:29It'd be great to see them both as well, actually,
24:31and have a bit of a laugh.
24:33I think Celtic are playing that day,
24:35and when it's not too far, the Glasgow venue,
24:37which is down London Road.
24:38And I think for Edinburgh, Irvine, if Hib's at home,
24:42then I'm certain that Irvine will be there as well.
24:45After the football, I'd imagine, for the both of them.
24:48Nice.
24:49Well, it sounds really great,
24:50and I know that Kelly, producer, is going to the Edinburgh one.
24:53So, she's looking forward to that.
24:55And Paul's going to the Glasgow one, mutual friends.
24:58So, yeah, good luck with it all,
25:00and thank you so much for your time,
25:02and it was really nice to meet you.
25:04Thank you.
25:05And don't forget, an open invite for Kebab and Merthyr.
25:08All right?
25:09Until then.