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00:00 Asalam o alikum, dear viewers, welcome to the program.
00:14 Today, a brief and comprehensive press conference was held by the Director General of ISPR.
00:21 During the press conference, all the issues were discussed, especially the security threats to Pakistan,
00:32 the issues on the eastern and western borders of Pakistan,
00:37 and how the soldiers of Pakistan are like a wall against us.
00:45 During the press conference, it was also mentioned that the civil and military leadership of Pakistan is always talking to the Kashmiris.
00:58 Some mischief is being done by India on the line of control.
01:03 The oppression of the Palestinian people is also being talked about. The state of Pakistan has always told the world that we are with our Palestinian brothers.
01:20 A special viewer, on 9 May, a year ago, an incident took place, which was condemned all across the world.
01:31 During the press conference, questions were asked about it.
01:35 The Director General of ISPR said that the cases are being handled by the justice system of Pakistan.
01:55 All the cases have to be handled by the justice system of Pakistan.
02:06 You may remember that General Asim, the Chief Army Staff, spoke about Article 19A of the Rissalpur Academy.
02:18 He said that freedom of expression is allowed to everyone, but there are some restrictions that the Pakistani government has imposed on all Pakistanis.
02:27 Obviously, you cannot spread propaganda based on lies, nor can you allow it.
02:34 The SIFC's role in Pakistan's economy was also discussed.
02:49 The question was asked about the removal of the court commander Mangla. The answer was that if someone commits a crime, it is a matter of accountability.
03:09 When the question was asked that a political party wants to have a debate with you, the answer was that talking is the job of politicians.
03:22 We can ask about this. What was the answer given? Let the SIFC tell you.
03:29 Talking is a matter of accountability. It is not appropriate for the army or the institutions to talk.
03:37 It was also said that the Pakistan Army is not having a debate with any political party.
03:45 They said that the people who have been involved in the 9th May incident cannot have a debate with the SIFC.
04:01 The case of 6 judges is still sub judice, but whatever the decision will be, we will continue to fulfill the responsibilities given to them by the army of Pakistan.
04:17 Overall, Mr. Nakri, if you have listened to the press conference, there was no question left that was not asked there.
04:31 But the questions were heard and the answers were given.
04:40 You are absolutely right. They answered everything in great detail. There were many hidden questions.
04:47 They also gave answers and they reached the Pakistani people.
04:51 DG ISPR told a lot of things in great detail, but there were some things that DG ISPR could not tell.
04:58 I want the people to know. It is very important for the people to know this.
05:04 In 2015, the Indian intelligence agency RAW made a wing in the name of chocolate.
05:15 Ravi Sena was made the head of that wing.
05:22 The work of that wing was to weaken Pakistan on the intellectual and ideological borders.
05:30 The Pakistanis who live outside of Pakistan, in Europe, America, Arab countries,
05:36 they know that in a very organized manner, the Indian community pushes them back.
05:43 Whether they are on jobs, in decision-making, or in various institutions.
05:48 You must have seen that the Indians, especially in IT related, became the chief executives of the world's big companies.
05:54 Why did they become? How did they become?
05:56 The Indians invested in those companies and brought their people forward.
06:00 Then those chief executives brought their people forward.
06:03 So, to push Pakistan on the intellectual borders, on the ideological borders,
06:07 this work is being done internationally.
06:09 The Pakistanis are being pushed back.
06:11 And in Pakistan, to push Pakistan on the ideological borders,
06:15 in an organized manner, a mindset is being created that
06:19 it should end the trust of the people of Pakistan on the state.
06:24 It should end the trust of the people of Pakistan on the Pakistani institutions.
06:28 I am not saying this at all.
06:29 The PTI people are our friends and brothers.
06:31 That some dynasty is doing this.
06:33 It is also possible that some non-dynasty is becoming a part of this whole game.
06:37 And they don't even know that the work they are doing, who is behind it.
06:41 In this, of course, financial matters are also involved.
06:43 In this, all those state affairs are also involved,
06:46 which benefit the Pakistan, the Indian government, the ideology of Modi, and the RSS.
06:51 Remember, when Modi sits in India and abuses Pakistan,
06:54 Hindus join him.
06:56 Because that is their view.
06:58 And on this basis, for the past 10 years, Narendra Modi has been winning there.
07:01 And he is still the most favorite to win.
07:03 So, the Pakistani nation, my brothers of Tehreek-e-Insaf,
07:06 you may have a lot of complaints against us that we raise objections to this.
07:09 We do not raise it for any other reason.
07:11 We are a part of the Tehreek-e-Insaf, Muslim League Noon, People's Party,
07:14 and we respect everyone equally.
07:17 We only raise our voice on the matter that may be happening from your side
07:23 in the form of non-dynasty, that the state is being weakened.
07:27 And you may not be doing this on purpose.
07:29 So, I have only one request to you.
07:31 If you don't even think of being a representative of a political party,
07:33 if you think of being a Muslim,
07:35 then don't move any news, any situation, any matter forward without verification.
07:40 Because when you move forward without verification,
07:42 then thousands and lakhs of people start moving forward.
07:44 And it becomes such a narrative that after which,
07:47 in the end, in our ranks,
07:49 unity ends, breaks, and disintegrates.
07:52 And this unity or this respect for the state benefits our enemy.
07:58 Yes.
07:59 Chaudhary sahib, in response to a question, he said that
08:03 there is talk of a judicial commission for the 9th May incidents.
08:06 So, in response to that, DG sir was told that
08:09 you should definitely make a judicial commission.
08:12 Then he took it back, that whatever incidents happened after 2014.
08:16 I said, okay, according to the law and the constitution,
08:18 they said, present the evidence.
08:20 They said that we are accused of having rigged the election of Janab-e-Ala in 2024
08:25 by the army of Pakistan.
08:27 If anyone has, especially if we talk about Maulana Fazl-e-Aman,
08:31 he said that definitely, the electoral tribunals should be made at this time.
08:35 Present your evidence in front of them and take it.
08:38 As for the other incidents,
08:41 the commission should be made, he said, we will present it.
08:44 I, you know, I have a big background.
08:48 That we want to make the army and the people the united front
08:53 and work against the enemies of Pakistan.
08:56 And whoever puts obstacles in this, whoever ruins it,
09:00 under one guise or the other,
09:03 or for their political interests, if they harm the country,
09:06 then they will have to be crushed.
09:09 Whosoever is, that is, even the people sitting on this table,
09:12 if they are doing this, then we should not get any mercy.
09:16 This is the matter.
09:18 So you have crushed all those reasons that divide the country's unity
09:22 and the unity of the people and the army.
09:25 Crush all those people.
09:27 Not acceptable.
09:29 And you have not yet,
09:31 now when they do not act on yesterday's three-member bench,
09:35 if they are acted on, then neither can they be rulers,
09:39 nor can they be their decoupled.
09:41 And all of them, I am telling you, are going to go to the quarry.
09:45 And they are going to face the music, whether somebody likes it or not.
09:48 Because it is too much.
09:50 Pakistan, then we talk,
09:52 that too happened the day before yesterday.
09:54 Khabar Ghummi had also sold his clinic.
09:57 What is this?
09:59 The dirt is flowing in the fields there.
10:03 You are talking about him.
10:05 He did the same.
10:07 Leave it.
10:09 Khabar Ghummi, I will catch you.
10:11 If someone breaks the unity of the army and the people,
10:14 if you support such people for your own benefit,
10:19 then you too will answer to Allah.
10:22 Absolutely right.
10:24 One thing, Mr. Nagui,
10:26 which I think was the most important thing,
10:28 that all the political parties should do their own affairs among themselves.
10:31 Why do we bring the army to Pakistan in these political matters?
10:35 Absolutely right.
10:37 Look, the first thing that Mr. Chaudhary did,
10:39 I want to answer that.
10:41 Mr. Chaudhary said that everyone will face the music.
10:44 Now let's talk about this.
10:46 He said that whoever did the wrong thing.
10:48 He said that whoever did the wrong thing.
10:50 Yes, I am talking about the same.
10:52 I am talking about the same. Listen to me.
10:54 How everyone will face the music.
10:56 What will they do? People will enter the houses,
10:58 set fire, cut off their necks.
11:00 What will they do? Tell me.
11:02 Listen, let me answer.
11:04 Who has written this?
11:06 Where am I going?
11:08 Every time I am wrongfully quoted.
11:10 Mr. Chaudhary, let me answer.
11:12 Wait a minute.
11:14 Let me answer.
11:16 Wait a minute.
11:18 Repeat.
11:20 Repeat all my statements.
11:22 I am going.
11:24 Mr. Chaudhary, listen to me.
11:26 I am answering with love.
11:28 You start from there.
11:30 I told you that I don't know the sound of the talkback.
11:32 Mr. Chaudhary, listen to me.
11:34 Wait a minute.
11:36 You take the answer from me.
11:38 You don't explain.
11:40 Listen to me.
11:42 You attribute a person that
11:44 people enter the houses.
11:46 Who said in between?
11:48 I said.
11:50 You are attributing him.
11:52 I said in between.
11:54 You decide.
11:56 I said in between.
11:58 You are attributing him.
12:00 Why are you saying in between?
12:02 Let me answer.
12:04 Go ahead.
12:06 I am talking.
12:08 He says face the music.
12:10 Right.
12:12 He says face the music.
12:14 How would face the music?
12:16 Will they cut off their necks?
12:18 What will they do?
12:20 There is a legal way in Islam.
12:22 You say that people sitting in the assembly
12:24 should come through Dhanli.
12:26 You go to the court.
12:28 You go to the election tribunals.
12:30 You submit your request there.
12:32 Take decisions from there.
12:34 This is a method.
12:36 What will you do?
12:38 Will you set fire to the assembly?
12:40 Will you kill the people sitting there?
12:42 You can't do this.
12:44 I am just saying that
12:46 you should adopt the legal way.
12:48 I asked this question yesterday.
12:50 I will ask this question today.
12:52 He categorically said it.
12:54 DG SPR categorically said it.
12:56 He categorically said
12:58 how many percent people
13:00 voted for Pakistan.
13:02 You have an objection to it.
13:04 You can go to the legal forums.
13:06 This issue will end.
13:08 Instead of repeating the same thing.
13:10 Nagbir sir,
13:12 two days ago,
13:14 someone's hand is like a star.
13:16 Face the music.
13:18 You are more educated than us.
13:20 We can't explain to you English.
13:22 Face the music.
13:24 If I have done something wrong
13:26 sitting on a mirror,
13:28 my opinion is that
13:30 it is a free and fair election.
13:32 Sir, you will be punished legally.
13:34 Where did Chaudhary sir
13:36 or someone in our program
13:38 say that people should
13:40 enter the houses of the public court?
13:42 You didn't hear my answer.
13:44 How did you interpret?
13:46 How will face the music be?
13:48 Face the music will be
13:50 done legally.
13:52 When you talk about
13:54 legal way,
13:56 then how will people
13:58 be cut off or burned?
14:00 You didn't hear my answer.
14:02 I said face the music will be done
14:04 this way.
14:06 It won't be like entering the houses.
14:08 It will be done legally.
14:10 This is what we are talking about.
14:12 We are not talking about
14:14 propaganda.
14:16 We are talking about
14:18 legal forums.
14:20 We are talking about
14:22 exactly the same thing.
14:24 Let's move to the next story.
14:26 Today, you know,
14:28 the case of six judges
14:30 was heard in the Supreme Court.
14:32 During the hearing,
14:34 the Supreme Court
14:36 consulted with the Bar Council,
14:38 the Supreme Court Bar,
14:40 the Bar of Pakistan.
14:42 They have asked for suggestions
14:44 that the case is being presented.
14:46 The six judges wrote a letter
14:48 and told the Supreme Court
14:50 that some incidents have happened
14:52 and we are being arm-twisted.
14:54 We are being pressurized.
14:56 They referred some cases.
14:58 They quoted some incidents
15:00 and said that this happened.
15:02 Today,
15:04 there were different suggestions.
15:06 First, Mr. Ahsan Boon
15:08 and Mr. Riazat Ali,
15:10 who were presented by the Bar Council,
15:12 did they present any suggestions
15:14 or did they discuss the matter?
15:16 I would like to suggest
15:18 that each one should be punished
15:20 after the hearing.
15:22 There will be a precedent.
15:24 There will be fear.
15:26 There should be a force
15:28 under the executive
15:30 who will comply,
15:32 just like the judges
15:34 used to comply.
15:36 We believe
15:38 that there is no other opinion
15:40 in this matter.
15:42 There should be a deterrent
15:44 and we have left the decision
15:46 to the judge.
15:48 The Bar stands by the judiciary
15:50 for the independence of the judiciary
15:52 and it's very alarming
15:54 when we say that the cameras
15:56 have been recovered from the bedroom
15:58 of a judge. It's very unfortunate.
16:00 Even what to talk of the judge,
16:02 I would say,
16:04 the interrogation, the probing
16:06 into the personal life of any individual,
16:08 that would be taken care of.
16:10 How? Please tell us.
16:12 That's the point.
16:14 Do you want an investigation or not?
16:16 We want an investigation.
16:18 It was suggested
16:20 that this matter should be investigated
16:22 and the suggestion was
16:24 that a commission should be made
16:26 on the sitting judges.
16:28 Mr. Ahmed Hassan, who is the president
16:30 of the Islamabad High Court Bar Association,
16:32 did he present an argument
16:34 in the court?
16:36 The responsibility of the independence of the judiciary
16:38 is not only on your shoulders.
16:40 It is the responsibility of all the organs of the state.
16:42 There is a difference.
16:44 It is our duty.
16:46 Don't talk about our shoulders.
16:48 It is our duty.
16:50 It is your duty.
16:52 It is not your duty.
16:54 If I may disagree with you,
16:56 it is my duty too.
16:58 That's fine, but it is not the same duty.
17:00 You have not taken the oath
17:02 of allegiance to the judge.
17:04 It is my duty.
17:06 I have no say in this.
17:08 I can sit independently or not.
17:10 I can sit under pressure or not.
17:12 You will put pressure on me
17:14 with your arguments.
17:16 It is intellectual pressure.
17:18 You can put pressure on me.
17:20 There can be a lot of pressure.
17:22 Why don't we praise our heroes?
17:24 Jabir Ahi said
17:26 that you will follow me,
17:28 not the law.
17:30 You will vote for the PCO.
17:32 They are our heroes.
17:34 Don't say that everyone is equal.
17:36 You can see the time of the other people's decisions.
17:38 Justice Atar Manala
17:40 during this case
17:42 during the activities
17:44 we are listening to the remarks
17:46 and also asking questions.
17:48 He said that
17:50 the issues that we have
17:52 are not just from one High Court.
17:54 This is coming from all the High Courts of Pakistan.
17:56 The federal government
17:58 has to submit
18:00 its response
18:02 to the grave status of interference
18:04 by the executive as highlighted
18:06 by all the High Courts.
18:08 This is the most serious and grave
18:10 undermining of the independence
18:12 of judiciary which cannot be
18:14 trivialized. The federal government
18:16 controls the intelligence agencies
18:18 and it is for
18:20 the federal government to explain
18:22 its position before this court.
18:24 Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
18:28 when he was listening to the case
18:30 he also passed his remarks.
18:32 Developing a system
18:34 is two things missing in our system.
18:36 One, that we have never taken action
18:38 against compromised judges.
18:40 If we had thrown out the first compromised judge
18:42 things would have been much different.
18:44 We live with them. Number two,
18:46 if any judge stands up
18:48 then the whole judiciary must unite
18:50 and stand behind him. The system
18:52 doesn't cater to that. We ignore him.
18:54 We do not stand behind him.
18:56 We should have a system like you all.
18:58 You all should have been together
19:00 against the first judge. We cannot be together.
19:02 We should have a system
19:04 that we stand for a judge who stands
19:06 for the right one judiciary stands behind him.
19:08 You cannot do anything about any judge
19:10 if the whole judiciary stands together.
19:12 Mr. Chaudhary Gulam Sain
19:16 the case that has been going on
19:18 so far, the point is
19:20 that if judges like
19:22 Senior Penal Judge, who is going to be
19:24 Chief Justice in future, he said
19:26 that judges will have to unite
19:28 and stand behind him.
19:30 Chief Justice said that it is our responsibility
19:32 that all the people of the judiciary
19:34 should stand by us.
19:36 Be it the law judiciary, high courts
19:38 or the Supreme Court.
19:40 We have to protect them.
19:42 We have to protect them.
19:44 There is no true opinion
19:46 in that.
19:48 What Mr. Nalla is saying
19:50 what Mr. Mansoor Ali Shah is saying
19:52 and what other judges are pointing out
19:54 and they have said a very important thing
19:56 that all the high courts
19:58 have said that
20:00 there is interference.
20:02 What does it mean after that? All the judges are lying.
20:04 And your
20:06 Mr. Khawar Ghumat, the problem is
20:08 that you
20:10 are ready to correct
20:12 what is wrong and right.
20:14 You are ready to
20:16 steal, plunder, rob and
20:18 rob and all kinds of
20:20 robbing
20:22 in all its manifestations.
20:24 You are standing behind it.
20:26 You have to either
20:28 announce it here that all kinds of
20:30 corruption in Pakistan
20:32 is very important.
20:34 In the Islamic judiciary
20:36 and the law,
20:38 you have to make a firm resolution.
20:40 Whoever will rob more,
20:42 whoever will rob more,
20:44 whether it is the robbery of votes or
20:46 anything else, we will give them a bigger position.
20:48 If this is your policy, then
20:50 we will not speak.
20:52 All of us are together against corruption,
20:54 against the enemies of Pakistan,
20:56 against the people who do crimes,
20:58 and against those who
21:00 rob the rights of the people.
21:02 Your agenda is something else.
21:04 I still don't understand. The Supreme Court
21:06 is a big institution in Pakistan.
21:08 Three respected judges
21:10 have decided
21:12 and it is a big show.
21:14 If you understand,
21:16 you want to get out of it,
21:18 then you and I cannot get a chance.
21:20 Mr. Nagri,
21:22 I will definitely get your opinion.
21:24 We have to go to the break.
21:26 We will meet again.
21:28 Welcome back.
21:32 Mr. Nagri, I would like to tell you
21:34 a short story of Atram Alal.
21:36 This intervention is not new,
21:38 it is old.
21:40 All the High Courts
21:42 submitted their reports
21:44 which highlighted
21:46 more grave and recent
21:48 matters than this letter
21:50 and only
21:52 certain politically
21:54 consequential matters.
21:56 And one of the
21:58 High Court has gone to the extent
22:00 of saying that
22:02 it is a phenomenon
22:04 which amounts to
22:06 subversion of the Constitution.
22:08 It is not
22:10 a six judges letter.
22:12 They have highlighted
22:14 a phenomenon
22:16 which has existed
22:18 and in the last hearing,
22:20 the Attorney General
22:22 also acknowledged
22:24 that it was happening in 2018.
22:26 So everyone knows
22:28 that these things are happening.
22:30 Mr. Nagri,
22:32 what are your suggestions?
22:34 This is a phenomenon.
22:36 All the High Courts
22:38 are talking about it.
22:40 Judges are talking about
22:42 how to end this phenomenon.
22:44 How can it be ended?
22:46 You have also heard
22:48 the voice note of Mr. Atram Alal.
22:50 Why are the courts
22:52 established?
22:54 Why are the courts formed?
22:56 Why do the judges come?
22:58 The judges come to the courts
23:00 to bring a claim
23:02 with evidence.
23:04 If the courts accept
23:06 the evidence,
23:08 the claim is proved to be true
23:10 and the party
23:12 on either side
23:14 gets punished.
23:16 The judges have written a letter
23:18 to all the High Courts
23:20 saying that subversion has happened.
23:22 The judges in Mautra
23:24 must have said the right thing.
23:26 But the biggest responsibility
23:28 in Pakistan is of the judges
23:30 because the courts are based on
23:32 the evidence.
23:34 When the evidence is given,
23:36 we will be the first people
23:38 to stand with the courts.
23:40 Yes, that is what we are talking about.
23:42 Should a Judicial Commission be formed
23:44 to prove the facts
23:46 and investigate the case?
23:48 Let's move to the next story.
23:50 Yesterday,
23:52 the Election Commission's decision
23:54 and the decision of Peshawar High Court
23:56 which ended the right of
23:58 the Sunni Tihar Council
24:00 to the Sunni State
24:02 has been postponed.
24:04 Will they get the seats back?
24:06 Or will they continue
24:08 to be in the same position?
24:10 Or will they be given to Ghulam Hussain
24:12 and the Khawar government?
24:14 The situation is that
24:16 the Election Commission of Pakistan
24:18 has not taken any further action
24:20 on this issue.
24:22 The news we have
24:24 is that the Supreme Court
24:26 has stopped the people
24:28 from taking part in any legislation.
24:30 But on the other hand,
24:32 the government has given
24:34 its opinion.
24:36 Article 67 states that
24:38 if they have a Parliamentary meeting,
24:40 they cannot be stopped from participating.
24:42 The Election Commission
24:44 says that until we get
24:46 a writing document,
24:48 we cannot stop them
24:50 from participating.
24:52 Mr. Zahid Mishwani,
24:54 our correspondent,
24:56 how will this issue be resolved?
24:58 What is the Election Commission
25:00 thinking about this?
25:02 Will the people who have
25:04 already been notified
25:06 of their membership be withdrawn
25:08 until further notice
25:10 of the Supreme Court?
25:12 Today is the second day
25:14 of the Election Commission
25:16 and after the Supreme Court
25:18 has decided,
25:20 the issue is in the Election Commission.
25:22 The members of the Election Commission
25:24 and the law experts
25:26 and high officials
25:28 of the Law Wing
25:30 are sitting together
25:32 to discuss
25:34 what should be done.
25:36 The Election Commission
25:38 discussed this issue yesterday
25:40 and today.
25:42 The Law Wing was told
25:44 that the Supreme Court
25:46 will give a detailed decision
25:48 or the documents
25:50 they have been given
25:52 to the report commission.
25:54 Today, the Election Commission
25:56 was informed by a high official
25:58 about the future of the issue.
26:00 He said that the Supreme Court
26:02 will follow the decision
26:04 and we are seeing
26:06 what is being discussed
26:08 in this decision.
26:10 This is not just a matter
26:12 of the National Assembly.
26:14 If this issue is being discussed
26:16 in the National Assembly,
26:18 then the issue of
26:20 the Supreme Court
26:22 will be discussed.
26:24 Zahid, the question here is
26:26 that the Supreme Court
26:28 has clearly stated
26:30 that the decision of the Election Commission
26:32 and the Peshawar High Court
26:34 is suspended
26:36 till the specific session.
26:38 It is understood that
26:40 the notifications
26:42 will be terminated
26:44 and their intention
26:46 will be terminated.
26:48 You are absolutely right.
26:50 The Supreme Court
26:52 has already given
26:54 a decision.
26:56 But this issue was not
26:58 in the Supreme Court.
27:00 When the decision was made
27:02 against them
27:04 and the sessions were taken
27:06 from the media council,
27:08 when I asked the High Official
27:10 of the Election Commission
27:12 about the decision of the Election Commission,
27:14 he told me that if
27:16 the Parliament had
27:18 even one session,
27:20 then all the sessions
27:22 could have been sent back to the media council.
27:24 I asked him how that was possible.
27:26 He told me that the courts
27:28 return these things.
27:30 But the issue was that
27:32 the decision of the Election Commission
27:34 had raised many objections.
27:36 But they were aware
27:38 that if the media council
27:40 had even one session
27:42 on the party base,
27:44 then they could have been allowed.
27:46 If the High Official of the Election Commission
27:48 is kept in mind,
27:50 then it is absolutely
27:52 correct that
27:54 this will be their right
27:56 after the Supreme Court decision.
27:58 Let's see.
28:00 The Supreme Court has to hear this case.
28:02 It will be heard continuously from June.
28:04 Mr. Nagri,
28:06 don't you think
28:08 that after the decision,
28:10 the government,
28:12 the new ministers,
28:14 Mr. Rana Sinhawala,
28:16 should be a little reluctant?
28:18 They are dragging their feet.
28:20 They say that this is not right.
28:22 This is against the law.
28:24 The constitutional experts
28:26 say that the law is supreme
28:28 and it is the law that decides
28:30 whether this decision will be made.
28:32 And the seats can be given
28:34 according to the law.
28:36 You cannot give more than that to anyone.
28:38 Look,
28:40 in the case of the Sunni Jamaat,
28:42 the need is the mother of invention.
28:44 I want to move away from the law
28:46 and request the United Jamaats
28:48 to do something.
28:50 The children of Pakistan
28:52 know that the 82-85 seats
28:54 of the Sunni Jamaat
28:56 are decided
28:58 on the votes of the people
29:00 and on the votes of the people
29:02 and on the votes of the people.
29:04 And the specific seats
29:06 associated with this
29:08 are the seats of the people.
29:10 You move back.
29:12 You let them take those seats.
29:14 You want to take a double majority.
29:16 Now after the Supreme Court decision,
29:18 your double majority has already ended.
29:20 Now if your opponents take 23 seats,
29:22 then your majority does not matter.
29:24 For God's sake,
29:26 put the nation, the country, the state,
29:28 the institutions on such a path
29:30 where things start getting better.
29:32 How long will we keep fighting?
29:34 How long will we keep holding each other's neck?
29:36 The United Jamaats Council has made a mistake.
29:38 Don't punish that mistake so much
29:40 that people in the state
29:42 start holding each other's neck
29:44 and moving forward.
29:46 Our children have to grow up in this country.
29:48 We have to live in this state.
29:50 Don't do it. For God's sake, don't do it.
29:52 I beg you, don't do it.
29:54 Don't fight so much,
29:56 whether you are in government
29:58 or in opposition.
30:00 Don't destroy this country and this state.
30:02 I beg you.
30:04 The government is not denying
30:06 that we can't give these seats.
30:08 Because if you give these seats,
30:10 you will ask for more.
30:12 If you give more,
30:14 you will ask for more.
30:16 If you give halwa to Hafiz,
30:18 he will say, "No, it's a diet for the cow."
30:20 If you don't do that,
30:22 why do you give him such a big pappad?
30:24 But what Haider Nagbhi said
30:26 is a coincidence.
30:28 I think he himself gave the seat to the government.
30:30 Who does that?
30:32 You are not giving seats.
30:34 It's true, Nagbhi sahib.
30:36 No, he has heard it clearly.
30:38 Those who don't listen to me,
30:40 I will say something.
30:42 Sir, the war of ego has made this country stand here.
30:44 The war of ego is everywhere
30:46 that has made this country stand here.
30:48 The people are being crushed.
30:50 That's it. Nothing else.
30:52 Let's go.
30:54 Sir, do you want to say something?
30:56 No.
30:58 Viewers, we are going to take a break.
31:00 We have formed a committee.
31:02 We have formed another committee.
31:04 What has been formed of the first committee?
31:06 What has been formed of the second committee?
31:08 What has been formed of the committee on wheat with insects?
31:10 We will talk about it in detail.
31:12 Our Deputy Bureau Chief will be with us
31:14 who is looking at this issue.
31:16 Stay with us.
31:18 Welcome back, viewers.
31:22 Obviously, the crisis of wheat buying is ongoing.
31:24 I asked a question on Facebook and X
31:26 in the morning.
31:28 I wrote that
31:30 the people in Punjab
31:32 who are in different parts of the country,
31:34 tell us what the situation is
31:36 regarding buying wheat.
31:38 Believe me,
31:40 there are dozens of messages.
31:42 Some are saying that it is Rs. 2500, some are saying Rs. 2200,
31:44 some are saying Rs. 2000.
31:46 If someone is buying wheat for Rs. 2800,
31:48 he is talking about a loan of 6 months and 1 year.
31:50 The situation is very bad.
31:52 The situation is very bad.
31:54 The farmers are not being able to buy wheat.
31:56 Earlier,
31:58 a committee was formed.
32:00 The Prime Minister said that
32:02 he will take the issue to the local level.
32:04 Despite the availability of wheat in the country,
32:06 the committee was called.
32:08 After that,
32:10 the committee was formed.
32:12 Why did the government
32:14 not buy wheat during this period?
32:16 Today, you must have seen
32:18 the headline in all newspapers.
32:20 "Insects in Dharamdi wheat."
32:22 This is a news from Duniya Akhbar.
32:24 "$10 crore spent on research."
32:26 "New Insects."
32:28 "Final report will be presented to Shabaz Sharif."
32:30 Shabaz Sharif,
32:32 today the Cabinet meeting was held.
32:34 Azhar Farooq, our Deputy Bureau Chief,
32:36 covered the Cabinet meeting.
32:38 We know from him that
32:40 how far the research is going.
32:42 Azhar sir, tell us,
32:44 how many committees are there
32:46 and what are these committees doing?
32:48 How many meetings have been held?
32:50 Has a report been made or not?
32:52 Or the matter has been dismissed?
32:54 Thank you, Khawar sir.
32:56 Khawar sir, first, there are two committees.
32:58 The first committee presented
33:00 its report.
33:02 But after that, the minister
33:04 formed another committee.
33:06 The Secretary Cabinet,
33:08 Devyan, is the head of that committee.
33:10 He was given the responsibility
33:12 to investigate the wheat revenue
33:14 in the country, especially since
33:16 the current government has come.
33:18 So, when the committee
33:20 was formed,
33:22 the head of the committee,
33:24 or the Secretary,
33:26 said that the committee's
33:28 responsibility is only to
33:30 check the documents,
33:32 the numbers,
33:34 and to get data on the issues
33:36 related to the provinces,
33:38 the issues related to wheat revenue.
33:40 So, work is still being done on that
33:42 and it is being proceeded.
33:44 It was said that today,
33:46 the report of this committee
33:48 will be presented in the Cabinet meeting.
33:50 But today, in the Cabinet meeting,
33:52 the committee did not
33:54 mention anything about
33:56 wheat revenue.
33:58 And the committee has not
34:00 been dismissed
34:02 for the investigations.
34:04 So, it is possible that
34:06 this committee will present
34:08 its report in the next two days.
34:10 But it is clear that this committee
34:12 has not yet sought a political figure.
34:14 The report of the documents
34:16 is being taken into consideration
34:18 to the extent of the committee.
34:20 Now, it is to be seen
34:22 how long the committee
34:24 will present its report.
34:26 This responsibility will not
34:28 be fixed on anyone.
34:30 It will only present its report
34:32 with the consideration of the numbers.
34:34 So, the statements attributed to the Prime Minister
34:36 and the statement from the
34:38 Lahore, from Respected Nawaz Sheer,
34:40 that you had sought Lahore
34:42 and you had also spoken to Chhote Bhai,
34:44 that the situation is very bad.
34:46 Were those statements true or what was the reason?
34:48 Look, this news was absolutely
34:50 correct. Nawaz Sheer
34:52 has also said that investigations should be
34:54 carried out and the people who are responsible
34:56 should be given a fixed responsibility.
34:58 But at the same time, the ministers
35:00 are taking full responsibility.
35:02 And this statement is being repeated,
35:04 the statement is being repeated that the wheat
35:06 revenue has been taken full responsibility.
35:08 And this revenue was taken
35:10 under coordination.
35:12 But as I said earlier,
35:14 this committee, the cabinet committee
35:16 that has been formed under the leadership
35:18 of the Cabinet, the task given to it
35:20 is only to assess the numbers and documents.
35:22 Another committee will be formed.
35:24 The Minister of Food Security,
35:26 Wafaqi Wazir, said the other committee
35:28 will be formed.
35:30 It will investigate who are the real
35:32 responsible for this.
35:34 Thank you very much, Mr. Farooq.
35:36 You had said a few days ago,
35:38 that some work will start.
35:40 What is the news you have?
35:42 Because on the ground,
35:44 our reporters are also telling you the facts.
35:46 Today I myself have called them in many places.
35:48 There must have been some contact.
35:50 The Punjab government is not
35:52 buying wheat.
35:54 The farmers have already given a call
35:56 to the Farmer's Union,
35:58 that if this does not happen,
36:00 then we will do a long march
36:02 if their wheat is not bought.
36:04 Look, I did a little work on this.
36:06 And there is a Peti mafia,
36:08 which is famous by the name of Peti.
36:10 They are called the Peti people.
36:12 They are playing a very big role
36:14 in increasing this scandal.
36:16 They are basically the savers.
36:18 And the real action should be
36:20 against that Peti mafia,
36:22 which bought cheap wheat from the farmers
36:24 and brought the matter to the point
36:26 that the farmers sold it cheaply.
36:28 And after that, people are sitting
36:30 in the government who are behind
36:32 that Peti mafia.
36:34 And there should be a very strict action
36:36 against that Peti mafia.
36:38 Is there any idea?
36:40 This Peti mafia is everywhere.
36:42 Wherever there is a wheat producer,
36:44 there is a Peti mafia,
36:46 which buys cheap wheat and
36:48 sells it to the government at high prices.
36:50 And of course, this cannot work
36:52 without the government's consent.
36:54 So the real action should be
36:56 against that Peti mafia immediately.
36:58 Mr. Chitra, you have traveled by road
37:00 from Lahore to Islamabad.
37:02 You have seen the farmers waiting
37:04 for you. What is happening?
37:06 Why is this not working?
37:08 Where did they start buying
37:10 the 20 lakh tons of wheat?
37:12 They are not getting their money
37:14 anywhere. And this is the worst
37:16 situation. If you did not want to
37:18 buy, get the mill owners and
37:20 other people to get facilities
37:22 from the banks.
37:24 Pick it up. There is nothing to do.
37:26 You are right. The government
37:28 can do a lot of work.
37:30 That's all for today.
37:32 Allah Hafiz

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