Outlook's Md Asghar Khan speaks with Pappu Yadav who is contesting independently from the Purnia constituency in Bihar.
Yadav introspects his political journey, obstacles, dedication to duty, and the changing landscape of politics.
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00:00Morally, it is my victory, I have won morally.
00:15Pappu ji, now the election is over.
00:17During the election, you did the Pachad Prasad.
00:20How confident are you about your victory?
00:23Regarding my victory, when you look around the world, you will hear the gossip,
00:34you will hear the body language of the people.
00:39When the people and the common man start talking to you,
00:44and if there are 70-60 things in 100 things in your party,
00:50then there are only two things, either you agree or disagree.
00:55Either the people are completely on one side,
00:59or it is based on not agreeing or disagreeing.
01:05I believe that there are many social reasons,
01:13like the blessings of the people, the blessings of the people,
01:23or the hot seat that has been created.
01:27This is also one reason why people are proud that the pooris are in the hot seat of the world today.
01:34The pooris never used to be in the hot seat.
01:37Pappu Yadav's election, independence, going to the party and not meeting again,
01:42coming again, there are many reasons.
01:45There is a lot of sympathy among the people.
01:48With all the prospects, there is a big collective victory.
01:55So I think that morally, it is my victory.
02:03Morally, I have won.
02:08Morally, it means that when the blessings of the people,
02:12the voice of every person and all kinds of circumstances are on my side,
02:19then morally I need to stay high.
02:23You said that the Purnia seat has become the hot seat for the first time.
02:29What was the reason for this hot seat?
02:31Do you fight elections as a candidate for Congress?
02:34Does it remain a hot seat or do you fight independently?
02:37No, no, there are many incidents behind the creation of something.
02:42Pranam Purnia campaign and then rally,
02:49Salam Purnia, Johar Purnia,
02:52This Pranam Purnia concept, a big person said yesterday,
02:58that Pranam Purnia attracted common people,
03:06poor people, rich people, everyone.
03:10A person came to me with Pranam, Salam, Johar.
03:15He is talking about us.
03:17You said it is a hot seat.
03:19Yes, it is a hot seat.
03:21For many reasons, my decision,
03:23where did the courage to take this decision come from,
03:26that I will not fight HIPRA, I will not fight SUPOL.
03:29When Narendra Modi is sending Raj Thackeray to Guldasta for each seat,
03:34for one seat he is holding Maaji ji, he is holding Kushwa,
03:39Chirag Paswan's house was demolished in BJP,
03:45then party was also demolished,
03:47then a minister was made,
03:49then he was thrown out of the house,
03:51then pictures of Ambedkar and Ramlal ji,
03:53and then what happened?
03:57Then what happened?
03:59That you took Chirag Paswan ji,
04:03and I threw Chacha ji towards the flies.
04:08So a person like Modi ji,
04:13beyond 400, beyond 600,
04:15and for him,
04:17being a Prime Minister,
04:21it can be said that he has so much passion,
04:25he does anything to win.
04:31We,
04:33what is the difference between me and Modi ji,
04:35you will hear.
04:36Why a hot seat?
04:38He does anything to win,
04:40we do anything to die.
04:464.6 million people died in Corona,
04:48we could have also died,
04:50I did not have a mask in my mouth,
04:52I did not have gloves in my hands,
04:54thousands and thousands of dead bodies were picked up,
04:57we used to go to every hospital,
05:00and for 9 months,
05:02we used to bring people from every city,
05:05so 4.6 million,
05:06if one more person died,
05:07then 4.6 million,
05:08it would have become one,
05:10so someone would have saved us,
05:11if we had to die.
05:12So,
05:14like this,
05:17we could have died in Patna Bar,
05:19because the infection had increased to 32,000,
05:22the fever was not going away,
05:24then in the end,
05:25we had to be admitted in B.L. Kapoor,
05:27that is when my life was saved.
05:30Before joining the Congress,
05:33before leaving the party,
05:35you gave a statement that
05:37I met Lalu Prasad Yadav,
05:38Tejaswi Yadav,
05:39both of them,
05:40but after that,
05:42what happened,
05:43you know very well,
05:45that Rajat gave up his presidency,
05:47why did this happen,
05:48how do you see this,
05:50and the Congress,
05:51was not able to take a stand regarding you?
05:55Look, I have said this before,
05:57that in politics,
05:58there are many constraints and situations,
06:01like the personality,
06:04Priyanka Gandhi ji,
06:06the dynamic and dynamic personality,
06:09if you ask me personally,
06:11my trust in her was more than anyone else,
06:14because in my joining,
06:16her role was the most important,
06:18and I also joined,
06:20Rahul Gandhi ji's trust in me,
06:24that was important,
06:26but Priyanka Gandhi ji,
06:28I felt that my larger cause,
06:31my broader prospect,
06:36in that,
06:37Priyanka Gandhi ji,
06:39her trust in me,
06:41the way I saw it,
06:43I felt that it was a strong path for me,
06:49and I say this in a diplomatic way,
06:51this trust was with me,
06:53it was within me,
06:55that in Congress,
06:57I am such a big leader,
06:59I have two brothers and sisters,
07:01for whom I have so much trust,
07:03so without anyone understanding me,
07:08whether I will get the ticket or not,
07:12and in their presence,
07:18Lalu Yadav ji or anyone else,
07:20can stop Pappu Yadav's ticket,
07:22this cannot happen.
07:24So,
07:26I believe that,
07:31I understood the political constraints for the first time,
07:34but I was not that much,
07:36and on which Lalu Yadav ji,
07:38Rajat had no claim,
07:40I was fighting the elections in that place,
07:42I also felt that,
07:44Rajat has no claim,
07:46and Congress kept on fighting,
07:48and I have been an independent MP,
07:50three times there,
07:52there also I fought the elections,
07:54Congress supported the elections,
07:56lost by a few votes,
07:58we once lost by 11,000 votes,
08:00we went with the envelope,
08:03my heart was broken,
08:05so I felt that,
08:07there will be no problem in seat,
08:09Congress will not face any problem,
08:11and when I joined Congress,
08:13there is only one family,
08:15Rajat and Congress,
08:17there are no two families,
08:19so there will be secularism,
08:21and the target will be India,
08:23winning India will be the target,
08:25so there will be no problem,
08:27I will not face any problem,
08:30I don't know what destiny,
08:32or what time they want me to do,
08:34I don't know,
08:36but if a hot seat is made,
08:38and this seat is a topic of discussion,
08:40all over the country,
08:42and today all people have written,
08:44that after 4th June,
08:46what will be the situation with Pappu Yadav,
08:48in politics,
08:50this is just a matter of time,
08:52so I will not consider this as ordinary,
08:54and it is ordinary,
08:56a very big person said,
08:59people see and listen to Bhakti,
09:01he said,
09:05you are a warrior,
09:07and
09:09even if we were there,
09:11the way you fought elections,
09:13they are feeling it,
09:15many people have started writing,
09:21the name,
09:23the hot seat,
09:25was made in Corona,
09:28there was no news except for me,
09:30and there was no news except for me,
09:33but this political way,
09:37who doesn't know anything about the land,
09:39after coming to the land,
09:42and they don't know,
09:44a sample of 10 people,
09:46why people are mad,
09:48why they are giving,
09:50why the percentage is so high,
09:52My question is,
09:54how do you become so emotional
09:56that you start crying?
09:58No,
10:00you don't become emotional
10:02when you hear the name Purnia,
10:04you have said many times,
10:06you will die but not leave Purnia,
10:08that is emotional,
10:10then why do you cry?
10:12I am attached to Bhakti,
10:14I want you to answer that,
10:16I am attached to my family,
10:18I have been studying with Bhakti,
10:20since my childhood,
10:22I was born here,
10:24in Madhya Pradesh,
10:26my father was elected MP twice,
10:28CSR was elected MLA twice,
10:30so in Purnia,
10:32I am so attached to it,
10:34that I believe in you,
10:38you are my brother,
10:40you are my family,
10:42I trust you,
10:44and at such a time,
10:46you do something for me,
10:48and don't even morally support me,
10:50if your family doesn't morally support you,
10:52your eyes will be destroyed,
10:56you tell them,
10:58Who didn't morally support you?
11:00No one,
11:02everyone left me,
11:06everyone wanted me to go to Madhya Pradesh,
11:08but despite that,
11:10Lalu Yadav said,
11:12I never expected from my family,
11:14that they will go so extreme,
11:16either Lalu or Pappu,
11:18so this was the reason to cry,
11:20Pappu Yadav is giving interview
11:22to so many people,
11:24and his eyes are shedding tears,
11:26I am saying the same thing,
11:28when you are a good person,
11:30you will know,
11:32if you are a bad person from inside,
11:34your behavior will not be right,
11:36and if you are not a good person,
11:38you will be a liar,
11:40and you will be lying,
11:42in Madhya Pradesh,
11:44in Purnia,
11:46this is in front of me,
11:48and I am thinking,
11:50when Narendra Modi,
11:52and Mitesh Kumar,
11:54are fighting the elections,
11:56and Lalu Yadav is also fighting,
11:58and a man is taking such a tough decision,
12:00and despite that,
12:02there is a war from all sides,
12:04and even our own people,
12:06don't cooperate for a long time,
12:08and get trapped alone,
12:10who comes in you?
12:12everyone comes in me,
12:14the people of Madhya Pradesh,
12:16Congress doesn't come,
12:18our friends also come,
12:20with whom you will have high expectations,
12:22they also come,
12:24there are hopes also,
12:26when you leave your own,
12:28and go far away,
12:30after that you don't have anything,
12:32economical,
12:34socio-economic, nothing is left.
12:36Ok, second question is,
12:38the one I asked you in the car,
12:40that Pappu Yadav,
12:42if there is a flood,
12:44Pappu Yadav comes with a tractor,
12:46comes with medicine,
12:48comes with ration,
12:50comes with ration,
12:52when the whole world is in silent mode,
12:54Pappu Yadav is on the road,
12:56and not on the road,
12:58he is not giving a speech,
13:00he is supporting the people financially,
13:02so neither Pappu Yadav is an MP,
13:04nor a minister,
13:06there is a gap for a long time,
13:08where did this money come from,
13:10this discussion happens,
13:12Pappu Yadav helped from somewhere,
13:14in different fields,
13:16so he helped in different fields,
13:18and we are distributing,
13:20so 25 lakh rupees,
13:24Pappu Yadav brought from somewhere,
13:26or gave,
13:28so Pappu Yadav,
13:30from where he brought, from where he gave,
13:32this thing,
13:34politicians have stomach pain,
13:36and this pain happens,
13:38who loots,
13:40my question to you is,
13:42your question is,
13:44from where do we distribute money,
13:46people want to know,
13:48my question is,
13:50everyone has money,
13:52why don't thieves distribute,
13:54why don't they help,
13:56in corona,
13:58we could have sent buses everywhere,
14:00and could have fed everyone outside Patna,
14:02by selling our land,
14:04we have sold our land,
14:06you can go and see,
14:08you could have fed the people of your area,
14:10you could have sent a bus from Kota,
14:12to the people of your area,
14:16so everyone gets an opportunity,
14:18who chooses,
14:20one question is Pappu Ji,
14:22you have a photograph,
14:24of Bahubali Wali,
14:26now,
14:28it is said that,
14:30there are politicians of every house,
14:32there is a program of Chatti,
14:34so Pappu Yadav comes,
14:36in today's time,
14:38because in between,
14:40whenever elections come,
14:42the old accusation of yours,
14:44keeps coming,
14:46what do you mean by accusation,
14:48Amit Sattar is an Indian,
14:50Narendra Modi Ji,
14:52at least,
14:54in Godhra,
14:56how many people have to be killed,
14:58Loya case is also there,
15:00Justice Loya,
15:02many cases are there,
15:04Saurabh Uddin, everything is there,
15:06on all people,
15:08on me,
15:10there is no accusation on all cases,
15:12I am a tropper of a district school,
15:14Anandmargi school,
15:16Anandmargi family studying in a district school,
15:18and a son of a landlord family,
15:22it is not that I did not have a cycle,
15:24I was a chapparasi,
15:26I had two houses,
15:28so if you fight against the system,
15:30what will people say to you,
15:32we will do it,
15:34Pappu Yadav means service,
15:36Pappu Yadav means help,
15:38Pappu Yadav means justice,
15:40Pappu Yadav means
15:42to fight on all issues,
15:44to sit on the ground,
15:46but you said,
15:48when someone stands in front of me,
15:50it hurts me a lot,
15:52it does not hurt,
15:54nothing hurts me more than that,
15:56for me it is death,
15:58in this election,
16:00Pappu Yadav, you participated in the alliance,
16:02you had to fight against that alliance,
16:04you are aware of Rajat's opposition,
16:06on one hand India was there,
16:08and on the other hand,
16:10you had to fight against the alliance,
16:12No, we did not have to fight,
16:14we did not have to fight,
16:16they fought us,
16:18we were fighting our own party,
16:22there are people in our team,
16:24there are people who are giving
16:26Pranam Purnia campaign,
16:28we are all here,
16:30we have been campaigning here for a year,
16:32before that,
16:34when my mother fought in the elections,
16:36Lalu Yadav fought in the alliance,
16:38he got 20,000 votes,
16:40before that, when we fought,
16:42he got 28,000 votes,
16:44when CPM fought,
16:46he got 28,000 votes,
16:48then once the public fought,
16:50he got 58,000 votes from us,
16:52so Lalu Yadav fought in the alliance
16:54against us,
16:56he slept in Maranga Maa's house,
16:58in Jadhav's village.
17:00My second question is,
17:02is Pappu Yadav still in Congress?
17:08The people of that family trust us,
17:10and we have not been removed yet,
17:12so I am still in Congress.
17:14One more question,
17:16Pappu Yadav lived in Rajat,
17:18he never lived in Congress,
17:20he lived in Rajat,
17:22even though Rajat had offered him,
17:24so why did you join Congress,
17:26instead of Rajat?
17:28Rajat removed me twice,
17:30not with Rajat,
17:32the biggest problem with Rajat,
17:34is that our freedom of thought,
17:36and freedom to speak the truth,
17:38people don't like that,
17:40and the leadership that we have now,
17:42is not in Lalu Yadav's leadership,
17:44that leadership,
17:46is there,
17:48for whom Lalu Yadav,
17:50a father's wish,
17:52a father's wish,
17:54if his son becomes CM,
17:56why not,
17:58Tej Pratap should become CM,
18:00he should make him Deputy CM,
18:02but Pappu Yadav,
18:04when he supported Lalu Yadav,
18:06in 1983,
18:08Tej Pratap did not take birth,
18:10or when we became MLA in 1990,
18:12he did not take birth,
18:14when we supported him with 11 MLAs,
18:16he did not take birth,
18:18and now Pappu Yadav,
18:20at the age of 58,
18:22there is a long line of politics,
18:24the world knows,
18:26Pappu Yadav is known for service,
18:28for quick action,
18:30for 24x7,
18:32for help,
18:34go, you will get justice,
18:36Pappu Yadav,
18:38Pappu Yadav has no other form,
18:40apart from this,
18:42you go,
18:44there is a service ashram,
18:46there is a temple of justice,
18:48without opposition of class
18:50when there is drought of patna,
18:52then Pappu Yadav,
18:54when there is virus,
18:56then Pappu Yadav,
18:58when in Manipur, Bihari is being beaten,
19:00then Pappu Yadav,
19:02in Maharashtra,
19:04in Gujarat,
19:06there are fights of SSC,
19:08LRC, SFA
19:10Spartak,
19:12wherever there is a fight,
19:14Pappu Yadav
19:16Despite that, when we go to Rajasthan under such circumstances,
19:20the line and the things you want to do, you may or may not do it.
19:24You need an independent platform.
19:26And when Priyanka's call came,
19:30despite that, it was an at-random call.
19:34And I didn't even decide.
19:36I told Laluji that I can't merge and I can't fight in Madhya Pradesh.
19:42So after telling Laluji, when did Priyanka Gandhi come?
19:45Yes, the next day on the 20th.
19:47When we landed at the airport.
19:49On the 20th of March.
19:50Yes, on the 20th.
19:51We met Laluji on the night of the 19th.
19:54On the 20th of March.
19:55You talk about Purnia, about Simanchal.
19:58You don't just talk about Purnia.
20:00I want to know, before you became an MP,
20:04what was your priority in terms of development?
20:07What was Pappu Yadav's priority in terms of Purnia?
20:10In terms of development, first of all,
20:13listen to Gadgari's statement.
20:15An Indian Jinta Party leader,
20:20and the most wanted person in the RSS,
20:23came to Madhya Pradesh and said,
20:25I have never seen a person like Pappu Yadav.
20:29He has done so much,
20:31that all the NLs are for Pappu Yadav.
20:34Secondly, in terms of development,
20:37when Pappu Yadav became an MLA,
20:40the whole of Kosi, Simanchal and Patna,
20:44everywhere,
20:45there was a fear in Apsar,
20:47that there will be no honesty,
20:49that the common people will have to fight,
20:51that there will be no consultation with the common people,
20:53that no one can take money,
20:54that no one can cheat.
20:56One trust, one hope.
20:58When all the hopes of the people are over,
21:00then Pappu Yadav will come.
21:01Then it's done.
21:02Then Apsar will not do anything.
21:05Then we will get justice.
21:07We have done everything with our own pocket money,
21:10not with the government's money.
21:11We gave electricity here,
21:12we fought and gave,
21:13we cut and gave.
21:14We used to give electricity to Purnia for 23 hours,
21:16when there was no electricity in India.
21:17But when it was time to plant the pole,
21:19Pappu Yadav planted the pole with his own pocket money.
21:22There were so many FIRs against us.
21:25We gave the pole to Purnia with our own money.
21:27At that time,
21:28when people had not seen the money,
21:30Pappu Yadav planted the pole worth 1 crore 32 lakhs in Purnia.
21:35At that time,
21:36no one had the capacity to see 1 rupee,
21:37100 rupees.
21:38At that time,
21:39Pappu Yadav planted the pole worth 1 crore 32 lakhs
21:41in 1994.
21:49How many people were watching the money at that time?
21:52You have asked me a question.
21:55You are talking about Nitin Gadkari again and again in your conversation.
21:59Not again and again,
22:00but you have mentioned him 2-3 times.
22:01And you are praising Nitin Gadkari 2-3 times.
22:04And according to your post,
22:08there are talks that if Pappu Yadav wins,
22:11he will join BJP.
22:13Look, I have understood one thing.
22:15I am telling you very clearly.
22:20What is the part of politics?
22:22A politician always
22:24relies on his political and personal life.
22:29Our identity and ideology
22:32is based on Pappu Yadav's decision.
22:42Whatever Pappu Yadav says and does,
22:44whatever Pappu Yadav wants will happen.
22:50And whatever we want will happen.
22:52And whatever we say, we will do.
22:56Politics is in its place.
23:00My aim is the development of Bihar, Shimanchal and Koshi.
23:04Employment of 10,000 people in our area.
23:07Things like AMS,
23:10High Court Bench,
23:13Upral Dhani,
23:15Makka Makan Perfactory.
23:18My aim is to fight for independence.
23:25That is why we were fighting with our party.
23:30And when you asked me if I was in Congress,
23:33I said that I have never left Congress.