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Cricket Kahani S3 EP - 02 | Kamran Akmal | Fakhar-e-Alam | A Sports

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00:00Greetings, friends. I am Fakhr-e-Alam in Cricket Kahani and I welcome you all once again.
00:09Today, I have another very special friend with me.
00:12I'll tell you this, he was one of the best wicket-keeper batsmen that Pakistan had.
00:1853 test matches, 157 ODIs, 58 T20 internationals, more than 6,800 international runs and 453 dismissals as wicket-keeper.
00:29I've got with me Kamran Akmal. Assalam-o-Alaikum, Kamran and welcome.
00:32Wa-Alaikum-Salam. Thank you.
00:34Good to have you here.
00:35Thank you.
00:36Kamran, the record that I just told you, is it enough? Do you feel happy that something is left behind?
00:42Alhamdulillah. I have played with a lot of passion and I am thankful to the performers.
00:48The performances have been ups and downs.
00:50I know.
00:51We are a team of Pakistan. We are happy and satisfied.
00:57We will try to enjoy this performance and remember it.
01:01This is true. The whole nation remembers your amazing performance.
01:05Kamran, let's start the story.
01:08When did cricket start in your life?
01:12What is the first memory that you have of cricket?
01:15Was it the first time you held the ball in your hand?
01:18How does the story begin?
01:20Fakhar Bhai, you know that there was a small airport in Gulbarg.
01:26Walton Airport?
01:27Yes, that one.
01:29My father, my uncle, my three uncles, my father is the eldest.
01:35On the day off, he used to play cricket all day.
01:43He used to take me for a year. Babar's father is also the youngest.
01:46Okay, Babar Azam's father. Very good.
01:48He used to be a great bowler.
01:50He used to take me for a year. I used to say that I want to go.
01:53I used to be very fond of it.
01:55I used to only do wicket keeping.
01:57He used to take me for fielding.
01:59Do you know how far the ball used to go when it was shot?
02:02I used to have to run and go.
02:04That's how cricket started. That's how I became fond of it.
02:07I was also fond of playing cricket.
02:11Wow.
02:12That was the first number.
02:13Really?
02:14That was the first number.
02:15Very good.
02:16We were beaten up a lot.
02:18By whom?
02:19By my father.
02:20Okay.
02:21May God bless him.
02:23He used to save us.
02:25But my father didn't compromise.
02:27He didn't interfere.
02:29He just hit the ball.
02:31But those were the days.
02:33That's how I became fond of it.
02:36When I and my elder brother started getting beaten up,
02:41because of playing cricket,
02:43I was like, let it go.
02:45Let's do something else.
02:47My father also wanted me to play cricket.
02:50He wanted me to become a sportsman like my brothers.
02:53God wanted to give me respect.
02:55Now I have three kids.
02:56Three kids.
02:57Mashallah.
02:58How did the transition from tape ball to hardball happen?
03:01When did it happen?
03:02I started playing tape ball on the ground later.
03:06I started playing at home first.
03:08My father did.
03:09He didn't let me play in my room.
03:12He threw the ball.
03:14I started playing street cricket at home.
03:17That's how I started playing.
03:19And the story I told you,
03:21I developed a passion for it.
03:24There were local teams at that time.
03:26Cricket was this big.
03:27There was a cricket ball team.
03:29I used to go with them.
03:31I used to do the same thing.
03:33I wanted to go to the ground.
03:35I wanted to do fielding or get a keeping.
03:38That's how I started playing.
03:40As you know,
03:42any cricketer starts with street cricket,
03:46table, or tennis ball.
03:48After that,
03:49he thinks whether he should go ahead or not.
03:51That's how it started.
03:53I had a friend from the locality.
03:55Mudassar.
03:56He used to go to the Malton Cricket Centre.
03:58The club.
03:59Yes.
04:00Sultan F. Hussain.
04:01Yes.
04:02He used to go there.
04:03I had been asking him to take me there for a few months.
04:06I was playing in a local team.
04:08There was a Shamshir club in the locality.
04:10I started from there.
04:12I told him to take me to Malton.
04:15I have a passion for it.
04:17I went to that club.
04:18He took me there.
04:20I practiced on the net for a week.
04:25Nushad Bhai.
04:27Noshi Kaptaan.
04:28I played in his cricket centre.
04:30Yes.
04:31Nushad Bhai.
04:32Khurram Bhai.
04:33He was our senior.
04:34He saw me.
04:35He called me for a match.
04:38He was the senior of the club.
04:40At that time, in 1995-1996.
04:43A couple of years back, I used to get pushed in the club.
04:46I had to stand up.
04:47I had to work.
04:48I had to put the net.
04:49I had to put water.
04:50Wasim Bhai used to come.
04:52You had to roll too.
04:53I still roll.
04:54You still roll.
04:55I still roll when I go to the club.
04:57He called me.
04:59I was surprised.
05:01He asked me to play cricket.
05:04He called me for every match.
05:07I knew that I wanted to play cricket.
05:11My father supported me.
05:15My brother, Irfan, supported me.
05:17My brothers used to fight with my parents.
05:22They used to say that I don't work like them.
05:24I don't study like them.
05:25I used to say that I didn't even complete my studies.
05:28Nalaikpanda.com.
05:30This was the atmosphere.
05:31Yes.
05:32I used to play like this.
05:36I used to weld too.
05:41Do you remember Ferdos Market?
05:43There was a plaza at the corner.
05:45We were working there.
05:48There was an under-15 trial.
05:52The boys from the locality went there.
05:54I didn't have anything.
05:56I went to get things from home.
05:59My brother sent me.
06:00He got me some things.
06:02I went there.
06:03I saw that the boys from the locality were going for the trial.
06:07I got a bag from someone.
06:09I got gloves from someone.
06:10I didn't break it.
06:12I put things in it.
06:14I took it for the trial.
06:16Okay.
06:17Your brother sent you to get things for the welding.
06:21Yes.
06:22You took the bag.
06:24You saw that people were going for the trial.
06:25Did you collect the things?
06:26I am collecting the things.
06:27I went to the LCCA for the trial.
06:29Wow.
06:30Great Imran Bhai was there.
06:34He saw the batting.
06:36I was selected.
06:38Azhar Khan was the selector.
06:40Numan was our senior.
06:42He selected me.
06:45After selecting me, the final boys came.
06:49Imran Bhai came to see.
06:50He saw three boys.
06:52Taufiq Umar, me and Imran Azir.
06:55Wow.
06:57We were going for the trial in 1995.
06:59He saw all three.
07:01After seeing all three, he left.
07:03He said one thing to my father.
07:05Make him play cricket.
07:07Wow.
07:08Support him.
07:09My father supported me with open heart.
07:12He took me everywhere.
07:14This is how I started.
07:16I played club cricket.
07:18He took me everywhere.
07:20You can't imagine the struggle.
07:23We didn't have money to eat.
07:25We didn't get three meals a day.
07:27We had one meal a day.
07:28We were a middle class family.
07:30I will tell you honestly.
07:32We are eight siblings.
07:34Saad Bhai is one.
07:36Wow.
07:37There were two rooms in total.
07:39We used to live like this.
07:41In Gulbarak.
07:42No way.
07:43On hot days.
07:45And in June and July.
07:47When I used to go.
07:49I used to walk from Gulbarak to Molton.
07:51From so far to Molton?
07:53I didn't have rent.
07:55My father was not financially strong.
07:59He used to work.
08:01This is how we used to live.
08:03This is how I started.
08:05I got support from my father.
08:07God gave me a lot of respect.
08:09When I used to have a kid bag.
08:12It was difficult to walk with it.
08:16It was difficult to come back.
08:18Yes.
08:19But these things didn't matter at that time.
08:22It was just passion.
08:24We used to go.
08:26Neighbors used to say.
08:28Akmal, your son is not mad.
08:30Your father?
08:31Yes.
08:32They used to say that.
08:34But my family.
08:36Everyone supported me.
08:38I have a question.
08:40Do you ever tell your father.
08:42I am very grateful to you.
08:46Do you ever talk about such things?
08:49There is no need to say this.
08:52Sometimes it is necessary to say.
08:54We can't live without him.
08:56I know this much.
08:58We can't do anything without him.
09:00I am very thankful to God.
09:04My father supported me a lot.
09:07I played with Shoaib Malik.
09:10We played together.
09:12We didn't have bus fare till Faisalabad.
09:15My father used to collect money.
09:19There was a scooter on the bike.
09:23He used to take me from Lahore to Faisalabad.
09:26He used to come behind me.
09:28He used to take me to the club matches.
09:32He used to take me.
09:34He didn't have a bike.
09:36He didn't have a job.
09:38He had only one bike.
09:40When it was available.
09:42He used to take me.
09:44You can't imagine my condition at that time.
09:48I have been playing cricket for 25-26 years.
09:57I am talking about this today.
09:59I have never heard about this before.
10:03That's why I am discussing this.
10:05I am very impressed.
10:07This is how we played cricket.
10:09You are very lucky.
10:11Your father supported you a lot.
10:14If he is watching this.
10:16I can only thank you.
10:19You have given three great sons to Pakistan.
10:24We will talk about this after the break.
10:36Welcome back from the break.
10:37You are watching Cricket Kahani.
10:38With me is Kamran Akmal.
10:40Kamran, you have told us about your heart.
10:42Things that no one knew about.
10:44Your father has sacrificed a lot for your success.
10:48Three of his sons have served Pakistan's cricket.
10:54You, Adnan and Umar.
10:58I have a question.
10:59Who is better out of the three?
11:01You have a big eye.
11:05You are sitting with so many great players.
11:08They will take Umar's name.
11:11Umar is very good.
11:13I would say Adnan.
11:17Where is Kamran?
11:19Kamran is the most successful.
11:21This is your opinion.
11:25I would say Adnan.
11:27When Adnan made his debut.
11:29He was in the captaincy of MISPA.
11:31He gave a great performance in domestic.
11:36He was the best wicket keeper in Pakistan.
11:38He played 20-21 test matches.
11:42He was the best at that time.
11:45Kamran Akmal came through the ranks at the time.
11:50When Mohin Khan and Rashid Latif were with Pakistan.
11:54Making your place at that time.
11:56And rising to the top.
11:58This is a big credit.
12:00What do you think?
12:02What was your edge?
12:04You made your place in the presence of Rashid Latif and Mohin Khan.
12:09Fakhar Bhai, I was going on an Australia tour.
12:12Under-19.
12:14Before me was Humayun Bhai.
12:16Humayun Farhad.
12:18He was a player from Karachi.
12:20He used to play under-19.
12:22I never got a chance to play under-19.
12:25He was better than me.
12:27He was a performer too.
12:29He used to keep me in second option.
12:32If there was an injury, he used to call me.
12:35I used to play 4-day.
12:37And 2-day under-19 against Australia.
12:40The team was going to Australia.
12:42I got my passport and visa.
12:45The team was going to be announced.
12:47They told me to get ready.
12:48Ishan Malik, Karachi's P.I.
12:51He went to Australia.
12:53He was handed over to you.
12:55Yes.
12:56I told him that I was playing under-19.
13:02I cried a lot.
13:04I was sitting alone on the roof.
13:07I was thinking and crying.
13:09What has happened to me?
13:10It happens with every boy.
13:12It's natural.
13:13But then I thought.
13:15My club's brother, Nushad.
13:17He called me.
13:19He helped me financially.
13:21He helped me with cricket gear.
13:24I didn't have anything in my pocket.
13:26He used to give me things.
13:28There was Javed Nawab in Gulbarek.
13:31He was a photographer.
13:33I remember.
13:34He used to support me financially.
13:37My club's senior, Syed Izzat.
13:40He used to give me these things.
13:42He used to play cricket.
13:44He didn't have these things.
13:46Then he told me to come here.
13:52I was walking with him.
13:53He was explaining to me.
13:54Who?
13:55Nushad Bhai.
13:56Nushad Bhai.
13:57He was saying.
13:58If you want to play long cricket.
14:01At international level.
14:03You have to leave under-19.
14:05This is not the process.
14:07You play a club match.
14:09Here you do 150.
14:11Here you do 250.
14:13If you go to domestic, you will do 40.
14:16Because at that time.
14:17This was the standard of domestic.
14:19Your preparation.
14:20Absolutely.
14:21This was the standard of domestic.
14:23You go there and do 50.
14:25And leave under-19.
14:27I stopped thinking about under-19.
14:30I got a call from National Bank.
14:32Imran Saeed.
14:33Dr. Jamil Iqbal.
14:34He was our head.
14:36He told me.
14:37You come to National Bank.
14:39Before that.
14:40I used to play in NDFC.
14:42Malik B.
14:43Taufiq Umar.
14:44We used to play in grade 2.
14:45They had made a team.
14:47Local club.
14:48After that.
14:49When National Bank took me.
14:51Then I thought.
14:53No.
14:54To play in National Bank team.
14:56And a boy like me.
14:58So.
14:59This is the biggest opportunity.
15:01For me.
15:02That here I show myself.
15:04Do performance.
15:05After that.
15:06The selection process will continue.
15:08So this happened to me.
15:10There are two great things.
15:12To learn here.
15:13One is that.
15:14A person should not be disappointed.
15:15When you dropped from under-19.
15:16And you were sitting alone on the terrace.
15:18Crying with tears.
15:20Second thing.
15:21If you have a mentor.
15:22Your well-wisher.
15:23Like.
15:24Noshi.
15:25In your case.
15:26Naushad.
15:27Model Town Club.
15:28He told you.
15:29To leave under-19.
15:30And go that way.
15:31Yes.
15:32Early age.
15:33It is very important.
15:34In a good club.
15:35At that time.
15:36That club.
15:37There was no value of the club.
15:38Let me tell you.
15:39Every club in Lahore.
15:40Said.
15:41Leave the club.
15:42If you want to play cricket.
15:43I said.
15:44After leaving the club.
15:45I will do net on the seamer.
15:46Who don't have matches.
15:47This club.
15:48Who have practice on the trough.
15:49There are matches on the trough.
15:50Here.
15:51My work is ahead.
15:52How I have to go.
15:53How I have to take advantage of this thing.
15:54It is not in other clubs.
15:55So this is how I was treated.
15:56So in my opinion.
15:57In my early age.
15:58If you find such people.
15:59You see a vision.
16:00What is your purpose of going ahead.
16:01We have seen those things.
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18:46But as for Pakistan I'm impressed with that.
18:47Like I was always impressed.
18:48Pakistan the record books speak for it'self.
18:49But reaching this far.
18:50Very well done.
18:51You have won me over one more time.
18:55Amazing.
18:56I'm just flabbergasted in the middle of this interview.
18:59I can't believe I'm hearing this story.
19:03Mine as well and you should believe that I consider
19:06myself very lucky.
19:07I used to go to the jungles of the stadiums of Pakistan.
19:13I used to stand there and watch.
19:14I used to shake hands with Waseem Bhai.
19:17I used to shake hands with Inzy Bhai.
19:20They were our great players at that time.
19:23They were your father.
19:24My brother Rashid and Mohin Bhai used to play at that time.
19:28My idol was Rashid Bhai. I used to go to see him.
19:32I used to meet Rashid Bhai or Mohin Bhai.
19:37I used to talk to them. I used to take their autographs.
19:41This was my time.
19:44When I made my international debut,
19:46I was only looking at Waseem Bhai.
19:50I was only looking at Inzy Bhai. Vicky Bhai was the captain.
19:53You were in the team and your eyes were on him.
19:57That's right.
19:58When you were wicket keeping for the first time in an international match,
20:01who was the first bowler you kept?
20:03It was Shoaib Bhai and Waseem Bhai.
20:05How would you feel behind the stumps?
20:07They were the ones I wanted to shake hands with.
20:11I am keeping for them today.
20:13Sir, let me tell you something about Waseem Bhai.
20:15I faced him for the first time in a domestic match at Sheikhupura.
20:18Waseem Bhai and Shoaib Mali will remember this match.
20:22It was a match with the National Bank.
20:24It was a PIA match.
20:26PIA and National Bank.
20:28I will tell you the story.
20:30I played with Waseem Bhai for the first time.
20:33Luckily, I reached the ball and hit a drive.
20:36Yusuf Bhai was standing in the cover.
20:38You must have understood what Waseem Bhai said.
20:41No, no. What did he say? Tell me.
20:43He said, wow!
20:46Okay.
20:47He scolded me and said something.
20:49I said, it's okay. We are elders.
20:52We have a role model.
20:55When Yusuf Bhai came to me, I said, will you call me?
21:00What did Yusuf say?
21:01He said the same thing.
21:04But he said it in a lighter tone.
21:06You can't tell us on TV. We can guess what he said.
21:10Fakhar Bhai, look at the PIA team.
21:14All the international teams were there.
21:17Sakhlian Bhai, Azhar Bhai, all the teams were there.
21:19Yusuf Bhai came in the cover.
21:21The next ball was on my helmet.
21:25A straight ball, a bouncer.
21:27I said, what is this?
21:29Waseem Bhai's bouncer.
21:31The third ball.
21:32He hit it from a distance and it got caught on the point.
21:34Get out.
21:36What the hell!
21:37So, these were the matches.
21:39So, let me tell you something.
21:41These are the things that you will never forget.
21:45And when my debut match took place,
21:50in 2002, before the World Cup and Zimbabwe tour,
21:55there was a trial match for Waseem Bhai's selection.
21:59Mohin Bhai was in another team under Waseem Bhai's name.
22:03I was in Waseem Bhai's team.
22:05Bari was the Chief Selector.
22:08So, Waseem Bhai told me about the batting order in Lahore.
22:12I was in the 8th position.
22:14So, Bari came to Waseem Bhai.
22:18He said, get Kamran batted. We want to see him.
22:21Send him open.
22:23So, Waseem Bhai didn't know much.
22:25So, he called out, where is Kamran? Who is he?
22:27I said, Waseem Bhai.
22:28I was sitting in the dressing room.
22:31Pad car.
22:33The Chief Selector even called out to me.
22:36He said, we want to see you. Send him open.
22:39So, I opened.
22:40I bowled a 42 on the opener.
22:42It was Mohammed Zahid, Rana.
22:44He was a fast bowler.
22:45So, that's how I got selected.
22:47So, Waseem Bhai...
22:49It was my debut test match.
22:51So, Saklan Bhai, Vicky Bhai and Mohammed Sami were the bowlers.
22:56It was my debut test match in Harare.
22:58Wow.
22:59In Vicky Bhai's captaincy.
23:00So, when you play with such players, you must have an idea.
23:04What a great cricket story by Kamran Akmal.
23:07His tongue is moving.
23:09But, I liked your domestic match the most.
23:13You shocked Waseem Akram.
23:15Did I shock him?
23:16No, you didn't.
23:17It was just a good drive.
23:18It was just a good drive. Yusuf Bhai caught him.
23:19It was a good drive.
23:20Yusuf Bhai caught him in the cover.
23:21And after that, there was a bath.
23:23What do you call it?
23:24You were welcomed in a rosy manner.
23:27Exactly.
23:28We're going to take a break here.
23:29We'll see you on the other side.
23:40Welcome back to Cricket Kahani.
23:41Kamran Akmal is with us.
23:42Kami, you told us a lot of great things.
23:44You told us about your debut.
23:46In your domestic match, you played such a big match.
23:49On one hand, Waseem Akram, Muhammad Yusuf,
23:51Shoaib Malik and everybody.
23:53Now, you've succeeded.
23:55You've reached the Pakistan team.
23:56Your story is moving forward.
23:58Let's go back to the 2007 World Cup.
24:00When the Pakistan team lost to Ireland
24:04and the team was out,
24:05there was a lot of criticism on the team at that time.
24:09There was a lot of controversy in the media.
24:11What was going through your mind at that time?
24:15It was a very difficult time.
24:17We were out of the World Cup.
24:21Our team was well-prepared.
24:23We had won the series in South Africa.
24:26We were a complete team.
24:27We were a bit disappointed because of Shahid Bhai.
24:31We were banned.
24:32Shoaib Bhai was unfit for the match.
24:35The balance got out of control.
24:38We lost the match to Ireland and West Indies.
24:41Then Bob died.
24:43It was very painful.
24:45It was very painful not only for me but for the entire team.
24:48Bob Ulmer used to favour you a lot.
24:51He was a very special person.
24:52I think in the history of Pakistan,
24:54all the players who have played under Bob,
24:59they all take Bob's name.
25:00He was a great coach.
25:02If he brought Pakistan's cricket to the table,
25:07our cricket would have gone to the next level.
25:10He was such a great coach.
25:11He didn't have any angle.
25:13He used to lead the team in a fair manner.
25:15If there was any angle,
25:17Shoaib Bhai would never come to the team.
25:19He had a reputation.
25:21There were many arguments and fights.
25:24But he used to take care of the team and the cricket.
25:27It was a good thing.
25:29He used to manage the players.
25:31We discussed everything.
25:34There was an inquiry.
25:35He took statements from the players and us.
25:38We had a flight the next day.
25:41There was an ex-cricketer in the Indian and Pakistani media.
25:46He gave a statement against the team.
25:48He said, Bob died because of this.
25:51We were shocked.
25:54Because of that, we had to stay there for an extra seven to ten days.
26:00Why?
26:00Just because of the inquiry and statement.
26:03It was such a big and irresponsible statement.
26:07But we had to stay there for an extra day because of that.
26:10We were in a single room.
26:14No one slept in the same room.
26:16We were sleeping in each other's room.
26:18We were sitting in the same room.
26:23We slept and ate in the same room.
26:24We didn't go anywhere.
26:25We were taken to another island from Jamaica.
26:29Montego Bay.
26:30We were taken there.
26:31They had kept us in a hotel there.
26:34We were alone.
26:35We didn't go anywhere.
26:37There was a lot of argument.
26:38We didn't know what to do.
26:41We knew that it was a natural death.
26:44But why did they keep us there?
26:46It was a waste of time.
26:49We came back with a lot of difficulty.
26:51But it was a difficult time for the team.
26:54You came back after a big tragedy.
26:56In 2009, you became the T20 world champion under Yunus Khan's leadership.
27:00But in 2010, which was the same year when you lost to Australia
27:05in the semi-final of the T20.
27:07In St. Lucia.
27:09I know that no one likes to lose.
27:12What did you learn from that match?
27:14I learned that if there is a batsman on the side where there is air,
27:21you should never spin.
27:24But we didn't have a fast bowler.
27:26Our Umar Gul was unfit.
27:28But we made a big total.
27:31The story of that match is amazing, Fakhar bhai.
27:35It rained all night.
27:37The toss was not on time.
27:38It kept raining.
27:40The rain stopped.
27:41We picked up the cover and they made us toss.
27:44Shahid bhai lost the toss.
27:46He came and told me and Salman,
27:49Kami, I only want a score of 120-125.
27:55Okay.
27:55It rained so much.
27:57The moisture was so bad.
27:59I said, okay.
28:01This is the plan.
28:03Any captain will say that it rained all night and all day.
28:08We should at least do this much.
28:09It's Australian bowling.
28:11I played Doug Nennes' first ball.
28:13I hit a drive.
28:15I told Salman,
28:16Salman, don't give a small score.
28:20It's a 170-plus.
28:22Okay, in one go.
28:23You played on one ball.
28:25Did you assess it?
28:26I assessed it.
28:27No.
28:28It's not a 125.
28:30It's a 170-plus.
28:32We lost by scoring 195.
28:34Now I have assessed it.
28:35Imagine.
28:36We only had one bowler, Aamir.
28:39His name was Saeed Ajmal.
28:40And Rizaq bhai, you know his pace.
28:43He used to bowl well when needed.
28:46But the semi-final loss,
28:51I still can't tolerate it.
28:52Because the match from where we took it...
28:54Yes, exactly.
28:55As soon as we reached,
28:57the New Zealand team won the match against England.
29:00So we reached.
29:02If they had lost the match,
29:03we might not have qualified.
29:05So that's a bit...
29:06It's a story from the past.
29:08He defeated him, you defeated him.
29:09No, in the World Cup.
29:10We reached in the seventh as well.
29:12We reached in the ninth as well.
29:14Only in the World Cup, this happened.
29:15I'm going to take a break.
29:16When we come back, there's more with Kamran Akmal.
29:18Stay with us.
29:28Welcome back to Cricket Kahaani.
29:30I'm Fakhr-e-Alam and I'm here with Kamran Akmal.
29:33Kamran, you spoke very well.
29:35Now, let me ask you something else.
29:37When you spoke about cricket,
29:40that our current cricket is in a big problem.
29:42What do you think is the biggest problem in the current cricket?
29:45The biggest problem is our domestic.
29:48Whoever is the chairman,
29:49whoever is the director of the domestic,
29:52instead of thinking about the international team,
29:57they start teasing the domestic cricket.
30:02You tell me, we talk about the system.
30:05The system of all the teams is the same.
30:07Today, India, England, Australia, they don't change.
30:11Why does our system change every second, third year,
30:13or every year?
30:16Your venue changes, your ball changes.
30:19In your test venue, your four-day cricket doesn't happen.
30:22The domestic, after the Pakistan team,
30:25after the international cricket, the cricket that the players get,
30:28you first decide the venue.
30:30Your Sheikhupura is rolling, your Sargodha is rolling,
30:33your Gujranwala is rolling, your Israel Court,
30:36there are no matches there.
30:37You get all the matches done in the same ground,
30:40where there should only be club cricket.
30:42There, you get four-day cricket done.
30:44And sometimes, you make four or six teams.
30:46Department cricket is the one that used to handle Pakistan's cricket.
30:50I'm sitting here today, playing so much cricket in front of you.
30:54Lahore's cricket, regional cricket,
30:56and department cricket have given me the opportunity to play.
31:00So, I think, whoever comes with this system,
31:02they don't know how to play.
31:04They don't know how to do it right.
31:05It's just that, for me,
31:07this is the world of Pakistan's cricket.
31:09And they're making the selection process more valuable than T20,
31:13which is causing a loss.
31:14The players that are made,
31:16in our batch, we play our four-day cricket.
31:19Long cricket.
31:20We play long cricket.
31:20And we can clearly see this in our bowling.
31:23In bowling, you see, the four-over bowlers are struggling.
31:26All our fast bowlers.
31:28If they're so paced, and don't play four-day cricket,
31:31don't play test cricket, how will they learn?
31:32How will they improve?
31:34So, this is something for the management to think about.
31:36Are you happy with the way you were said goodbye to the team?
31:43Look, there are a lot of things. I said it.
31:44Do you have any complaints?
31:47I have complaints in my heart.
31:48You should have better...
31:49No, you shouldn't keep it in your heart.
31:50There are a lot of things.
31:51How long...
31:52You did so much service for Pakistan,
31:54and you think it was fair the way you were, you know...
31:58The way you were treated in the end.
32:00Look, brother Fakhar,
32:01like you asked me a question before the break,
32:05if I say the same thing again, it won't be right.
32:09The people in my batch,
32:10whoever thought about it,
32:12they thought about Pakistan in front of their eyes.
32:15But they could have done better.
32:17They could have done better with a lot of boys.
32:19The only thing is,
32:22the people I played with,
32:24the people who came to the management,
32:26they didn't do justice with me,
32:28they didn't do justice with Pakistan's cricket.
32:30The people who got the cricket, they came to the seat.
32:34That's all I can say.
32:35But, okay. This is more than enough.
32:36This sentence is enough
32:38that those people didn't do justice with Pakistan's cricket.
32:41You don't talk about your justice,
32:43you're ignoring that, you're ignoring it,
32:45but you're saying it's unfair with Pakistan.
32:47Okay, fair enough. I'll leave that.
32:49Let's come back to that.
32:50You told us about your father in the beginning,
32:53that he played a big role in what you did.
32:55The sacrifices you made, all of that has been said.
32:58What was the role of your mother in your life?
33:02You can't imagine what my mother's role was.
33:10I can't say that her sacrifices, her support,
33:14she was always worried for me, for all the brothers.
33:19When I started my career as a professional cricketer,
33:21when I was selected for the U15 World Cup for the first time,
33:25I was supposed to play in England in 1996.
33:28What was her happiness at that time?
33:30And what was her happiness till the end, till 2018?
33:33Whatever I did, good performances,
33:36I used to play a man of the match.
33:37She used to make a drawing room for me,
33:39whatever trophy I used to get,
33:42I used to give it to my mother, she used to go and put it herself.
33:45She used to wait for it.
33:46So, that's it, I miss her.
33:51And for me, December 14, 2018,
33:56I can't forget that, when my mother left me.
34:00What did you talk to your mother?
34:02We talked about the T20 in Multan.
34:06So, I was going to Multan.
34:09So, my mother had a heart problem.
34:14She was also suffering from diabetes.
34:18So, I was going to Multan.
34:20So, I came out of the gate.
34:23So, you can't imagine,
34:25there was so much happiness on my mother's face,
34:29that you can't imagine.
34:31I said, I've been going abroad internationally for 15-16 years.
34:36I've seen so much happiness on my mother's face,
34:40but I haven't seen it like this time.
34:44So, we met and prayed.
34:48And the T20 was taking place in Multan.
34:50It was a Friday.
34:52And I was standing for the toss.
34:53It was an early match.
34:55So, the night before,
34:57I couldn't even close my eyes.
35:01I couldn't sleep.
35:02I came out of the room.
35:05I went to the ground for breakfast.
35:07I started tossing.
35:09Then I got a call from Umar.
35:10I heard a voice from the dressing room.
35:13He said, Kami, come back.
35:15My mother was no more.
35:17So...
35:19Umar was with you in the team?
35:20Yes, he was in the team.
35:21All three of us were in Multan.
35:23The T20 was taking place.
35:26And they were good people.
35:27My family, my father and my wife were telling me,
35:30that they were sitting like this at night.
35:32They were sitting like this till 2 a.m.
35:34And they were talking.
35:36And there was nothing.
35:37They woke up in the morning.
35:39There was nothing.
35:40Umar called you from the dressing room.
35:42Your mother?
35:43She was no more.
35:45What was your first reaction?
35:47I couldn't reach from the wicket to the dressing room.
35:54I couldn't reach.
35:55I couldn't believe it.
35:57I had met her.
35:58It was a daily thing.
36:00One night before, I was sitting on the pool and talking to my mother.
36:06And one day before the match, I told her to pray for me.
36:11That it was a match.
36:12She used to pray for me.
36:14So, you can't imagine how I spent the next five years without her.
36:24So, my mother...
36:26Do you think you have something in your heart that you couldn't tell your mother?
36:31I tried. I did what she told me to do.
36:33God gave me a lot of courage.
36:34No. Do you have something in your heart that you want to tell your mother
36:37that you couldn't tell her?
36:39Something that you wish you had told your mother?
36:44Look, Fakhar bhai.
36:47I shared everything with my mother.
36:50And whatever income I got from cricket,
36:56I gave it to the person who told me to do it.
37:00I gave it to the person who told me to do it.
37:03And there's nothing that I couldn't do.
37:08I told her everything that was in my heart.
37:10Very good.
37:11And she always supported me and loved me.
37:14And today, everything I have is because of her prayers.
37:18The sacrifices she made for me.
37:20And you know, when children are young,
37:24they feed us their share of food.
37:27They are hungry.
37:28We have seen this.
37:29They sleep outside and put us to sleep inside.
37:33So, we have seen their struggles.
37:38Very fortunate, Kamran, that you met such amazing parents.
37:42And they made so many sacrifices.
37:44Your father's sacrifices.
37:46I don't think anyone has heard this for the first time in public.
37:51It's an inspiring story.
37:52Your parents' love is an inspiring story.
37:55And you seem to be a very positive person.
37:59I am very happy that you live in a positive frame of mind.
38:03May Allah keep you healthy and happy.
38:09And may you continue to serve Pakistan in some way.
38:12Our prayers are with you.
38:14Thank you very much for sharing your story with us.
38:19Thank you.
38:19It has been totally, absolutely wonderful to have this conversation.
38:23Thank you.
38:24Thank you very much.
38:25And with that, cricket story.
38:26I am Fakhr-e-Alam.
38:27You are watching ASPORTS and the AYZ App.
38:30Take care.

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